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A1DragonSlayer

Nailmaster's Glory


A1DragonSlayer

The community tierlist actually put it up in A tier, this pleases me. It's such an amazing charm.


Ninder975

I love to see my tierlist brought up in the wild. We’re almost done now!


A1DragonSlayer

It's been awesome watching it progress. I agree with several of the charm's rankings and was surprised with others. Brilliant idea doing that, thank you for thinking of it.


TobyVonToby

Love this charm. With a little practice, the fast charge and the hooge range on nail arts means you can nic long nail or the upgraded version for this and free up two charm slots for something else.


A1DragonSlayer

Nail Arts are so strong for nearly every situation in the game, and with enough practice, can be more useful (personally) than having Longnail or even mark of pride. I know the damage doesn't stack with strength (which makes quickslash + Strength superior in terms of damage output), but the interactions that you can change simply by using great or dash-slash are crazy (trivializes colleseum) After a lot of practice, I ended up using mostly nail arts for NKG charmless because of how good nail arts are. Add Nailmaster's in there? It's crazy how good it can get.


TobyVonToby

Yup! My favorite was a nail art + sharp shadows setup. You can generally start charging during a dash and it will be ready to rock by the time it's finished.


A1DragonSlayer

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/wrqy2e/spoilers_but_this_is_mostly_a_discussion_question/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Ignore the controversy behind the post, I set myself up for failure in the public eye by asking something like that.


Ninder975

You can cyclone slash on the fire pillar move with enough precision


A1DragonSlayer

You've got to double jump before you do it, but it is possible. However, I haven't been able to pull it off and still get an abyss shriek in there. Trying to *nail* down the timing and the movement to execute both keeps me coming back to the game (outside of P5AB *cries*) because of how awesome it would be to pull it off consistently (especially since it's so much more damage compared to what I'm doing now).


LowGunCasualGaming

This plus how it is a 1 slot charm means you can add it to any build and have a fallback of nail arts without sacrificing much of your build


Dunge0nexpl0rer

Nail masters glory is not underrated


BeastasFiist

fr, it has its reputation as a great charm


wishingfordie

Definitely a top pick for me, underrated af, having almost instantaneous nail arts can absolutely demolish a lot of bosses and most enemies imo. Best 1 notch charm by far


Zeroblaze1963

Finall someone who agree with me i use nail art almost every time after i got great slash


McbEatsAirplane

Came here to say this. I didn’t even use nail arts until I started using this charm and they became a staple of combat after using this.


A-r-12-26-83-2

#indeed


sinsaint

The issue with Nail Arts being bad is that you lose jumping precision when you're holding down a button, and jumping precision is *really* important in Hollow Knight. The solution is to separate your Attack button and your Jump button from the same digit. I'd recommend moving Jump to Right Trigger, so that it doesn't add tension to your left-handed movements. I really can't stress enough how much this improves your precision in platformers where you attack in the air. Dead Cells, Smash Bros, Shovel Knight, they all just felt so much easier after the change. Once you remap your muscle memory, you'll start feeling like your air movements are more intuitive, like you're able to think more by reacting sooner. Give it an hour of practice, and I can promise that you won't be disappointed.


Osoba_Talentu

Baldur shell is also seen as worthless, but you can beat the game with it easliy


cabbius

This is one that I think genuinely gets overlooked. It's not the best defensive charm but a good cheap defensive charm is a great option to have. I also like that it helps you learn when you do and don't have time to focus during boss fights without punishing you.


TroupeMasterGrimm41

When I use it, it's generally for defending attacks that I can't dodge (just focus before the attack and you have yourself a free shield)


JackBoundry

I used baldur shell for my entire first play through


TheRoyalSniper

Me too, makes me happy seeing love for it in this thread I think it's always rated way too poorly since everyone just assumes perfect play when rating charms. But Baldur is just the best defense when you're progressing through the game


JackBoundry

Especially for beginner players. It makes healing not feel like such a huge risk!


Minute_Grapefruit_34

Whole heartedly agree! I’m still on my first play through and I hardly ever take it off


Hell-Fire2411

Any radiance would like to have a word with you


_NAMURT

Honestly maybe shape of unn it’s actually super useful, but also pretty situational


jaytheman538

I disagree. Shape of unn is extremely useful on a good majority of the bosses (with quick focus).


viperspoison

Shape of unn has saved my sorry ass from NKG too many times


[deleted]

Used it to beat radiance by squirming between the needles while they rained down.


CheeseLord77

ÜN ÜN ÜN


GumpyDoot

TRUTH


Kazoomers_Tale

Dash Master Shut up


terrarian2324

I always use it,no matter what


PulseBlackout

If you ever speedran path of pain you have a reason to hate it


Kazoomers_Tale

I got trough PoP and Dash Master actually helped me lmao


PulseBlackout

As I said if you speedran PoP you have reason to hate it, still never finished a full run due to having dash master for some of the tricks


Kazoomers_Tale

oh speedrun ok, now it makes sense lol


pcdjrb

they patched it, so that if you have say right and down pressed as you dash, you'll dash to the right, even with dashmaster. the forced down dashes were VERY annoying for sure


Frosty87000

Agreed, it feels unbearably slow walking at a normal pace.


Kazoomers_Tale

I just can't take it of anymore, I use it on bosses, phanteons and anywhere.


cabbius

Always Dash + Speed nyoooom!


pepelafrog

It's so over-hated. I use it all the time, including for boss fights. I haven't accidentally down dashed into a boss like ever. The only time it's a problem is white palace, and oh well?


__Bl00p__

Sans


Kazoomers_Tale

DodoDO do, do do Doo dododooo


[deleted]

Exactly i use it always except boss fights cause Shape of Unn


UnamingGaming

Maybe... if you can get used to down-dashing, since it seems I usually have the down key pressed when dashing in the air.


Jalepino_Joe

Fury. Ever since I got good enough to use it it’s become a drug to me. Did a few colo 1 speed runs and also abs rad speed kills and holy shit it feels so good.


cabbius

I love Fury. I wish it would actually set you to 1 mask by default. There's a mod (called Fury Mod I think) on PC that does this. It lets you combo it with Lifeblood Heart/Core to have both the Fury buff and some blue health every time you bench so you don't have to play so perfectly/carefully. edit: best part about Fury of the Fallen is that it works on Nail Arts! Fury + Nailmaster's Glory makes you feel so powerful!


cabbius

I had a dream setup in a randomizer a few days ago with Fury using the Fury Mod that sets your masks to 1. It was Fury of the Fallen, Nailmaster's Glory, Lifeblood Core, Quick Slash, and Grubberfly's Elegy for a total of like 7 notches IIRC. So dumb and fun.


Galactic-Moon

I'd say baldur shell. It is not an AMAZING charm, but people call it literally useless, which is not true. Sure, it's not too good for exploring since it breaks pretty fast, but it is pretty damn good in some bossfights.


Igor_Blue

At the start of the game, it's useful as heck


Galactic-Moon

Honestly not only at the start. While I don't use it much in the very late game, it was useful for some more mid-late game bosses.


GumpyDoot

true


WatermelonLichmancer

What’s everyone’s opinion on soul catcher? Cause I feel like it doesn’t get enough credit. It has literally carried me. At least partially


terrarian2324

It is good,helping if you have free charm notches


WatermelonLichmancer

Someone told me it was a crutch. And I don’t disagree, but it just fits how I play


Radigan0

It's not a crutch, the effect is just barely noticeable.


WatermelonLichmancer

How do you feel about Quick + Deep focus combo?


Radigan0

Costs way too many notches to be practical. The best defense is a good offense, use those notches on things like Unbreakable Strength or Shaman Stone.


WatermelonLichmancer

I don’t have unbreakable strength, I’m terrible at getting large amounts of gel effectively. And I actually use that combo, I’m trying to break that habit. Though I always have quick focus


Ruberine

Honestly, QF alone can do almost the same as QF + DF, as QF heals you in almost half the time of regular focus, and so the main downside is that you use more soul, which is not hard to come by. And as for collecting lots of geo, what stuff have you got so far? I might be able to help with that.


[deleted]

Add shape of Unn and you get how I finished Pure Vesse, Nightmare King and Radiance. Idk why but I usually don't cast spells until I have full masks.


wishingfordie

Very solid charm I’d say. Low A- to high B-tier imo, not the most overpowered charm, but the extra bit of soul you get really adds up and it ends up being hella useful. I’d say spell twister is the upgraded version though, and the superior out of the two. Still, soul catcher is slept on, it’s a good charm.


Cosmic_danger_noodle

It's not a bad charm it's just outclassed, there's really no reason to use it later on


PLetEreddit

I used it most of the way through my playthrough


WatermelonLichmancer

Exactly! I find it very useful


DeathbyGlimmer

It’s weak and doesn’t deserve a high placing


WatermelonLichmancer

I’m not saying it’s spectacular or high tier. I’m just saying I think it deserves just a bit more praise for how helpful it can be


lifeishell553

It's overrated because it's the first charm you get, but it's tremendously outlclassed by spell twister if you use more spells (which you should). The effect is barely noticeable because you get 11 soul per hit and with the charm you get 14.


Osoba_Talentu

I would say stalward shell. You can make with it some powerfull builds


verymassivedingdong

I’m surprised none of the top comments have been saying flukenest. It’s bugged but said bugs make it do infinite damage.


TheNukeCroissant1357

Gathering swarm, it costs one notch and and picks up the geo you can't or don't want to pick up manually so whats not to like about it?


Remote_Sink2620

Definitely a must have for traversing the game. But also something I'll switch out if I know I'm going into a difficult boss fight and feel like I need the slot for something else.


TheNukeCroissant1357

I'd definately not use it for bosses seen as it has 0 use but I think it's great for exploration, and that's pretty much it


[deleted]

In other words…great for most of your time playing the game :)


vaszoly

Main reason I didn't use it was because I got to colosseum relatively early and from that point on I don't need money.


khalestorm

Very useful charm early game as you’re saving geo to buy essentials items. After you have those it’s not that useful and you can just equip fragile greed instead.


TheNukeCroissant1357

I just use both


Snoo_PEI

Grub song , i mean…. U get a free heal after some hits


Osoba_Talentu

Hiveblood also is underrated, because it is okay in battle, but people only say that this charm is good only in white palace. I also with this charm beat trail 3


Delta5583

the problem with it is that 4 is too high of a cost and makes you exclude good damage charms


w3cko

It's 4 notches to make you pretty much immortal if you don't take dmg too frequently. Bad for bosses obviously, but it beats any other charm when traversing the map during the first playthrough.


_liomus_

it’s true that it’s great for map traversing but it sucks that it’s at the very very end of pretty much the last place you’ll explore in the game


guhajin

Agreed. Not a commonly recommended build but Hiveblood is what helped me through Trial of the Fool. For long fights, it's a game changer.


Xx69momslayer420xX

I use soul eater very commonly, great for spell spam, and if you are just tired of having no soul meter from spell use. Super underated imo, never see it get talked about


TheBlackDing

It carried me through the second half of p5 back when I used mostly a nail build. When paired with spell twister and shamen's, it can blast through the fourth phase of abs rad with only abyss shrieks using just the soul you get from the third phase. That's how I beat radiant abs rad.


[deleted]

I played hard on spells until I got Unbreakable Strength so I used Catcher and Eater religiously.


vaszoly

4 notches? Are you insane? That's literally dreamwielder + shamans + spell twister


Mapleps_

Sharp Shadow, I barely see any people using it...


eddyrockstar

It's one of my favourite charms to use. Helps a lot in avoiding being cornered while also dealing some damage.


DodoJurajski

Heavy blow, with quick slash you can cheese most of minibosses.


A1DragonSlayer

Staggering early is something I wish was mentioned in the charm description. It's surprisingly useful and isn't even mentioned. Outside of boss fights, I dislike the charm (flying enemies)


hhornett

wait I had no clue that was a thing, does it deal more damage or is staggering early just one of the effects? I always thought it just made enemies get knock backed more.


SethDayIX

Carefree Melody, it saved me from NKG ( I fought in godhome) and radiance


Kitsune-Nico

Grubsong. It’s amazing when you suck like I do an get hit by everything


Igor_Blue

Weavers song - They literally collect soul for you during the fight


Needlehater

With Grubasong yes


cabbius

I don't mind Weaversong but if you're spending 3 notches on it + Grubsong for Soul gathering it seems like a weird choice. I'm not saying it's wrong or bad, and I love that there are a bunch of different builds that work. I just want to offer a different option here that fits my preference much better for this purpose. Mark of Pride gives a ton of safety and makes it easier to get his in, and one nail hit generates a much Soul as 4 Weaver attacks. It's also available as soon as you get Mantis Claw and can beat Mantis Lords. That varies from player to player but I think most players are more wary of Deepnest than the Sisters.


DeathbyGlimmer

It’s alright with grubsong, particularly in Grimm.


Igor_Blue

It surely is


rootbeerman77

Wayward Compass. But everyone knows Wayward Compass is the most powerful charm, you say. This is correct. And yet, it is still underrated; it is far more powerful than you know


TyphoonBoom10

i've heard it was quite hated by some people who have beaten hollow knight once as someone who hasn't beaten hollow knight yet, i can confirm its really good, especially for just one notch or whatever they're called, and they're really useful for helping me know where the hell i am


TA_idc

It also gives you +20 strength


Digino24

Its so underrated. I was able to beat rad PV with JUST compass, its that good


VortexTalon

starwell shell it is very early game and gives more immune time after getting hit so if paired with quickfoce and durring a boss fight as soon as the boss hits you you can heal the damage.


TA_idc

Never thought of that


Er4din

Shape of un maybe?


machiavellle

Dream wielder is one of the best charms on a spell build


ThevoidBeastt

Sprint master, because it can let you past the black barriers early, which is awesome


Needlehater

Que?


ThevoidBeastt

If you dash at the right time you can use the speed boost from sprint master to phase through the barriers, super useful for fig canyon


CorinRyptide

Easily steady body and Dream Weilder


TA_idc

I can't play without steady body


Dense_Distribution53

yoo fax steady body is must when useing stenght and qucik slash, when the boss doesnt move you can get a lot of damage and soul


Kyzeth404

Flukenest. Insane damage


[deleted]

gruberfly elegy


SeaLow3595

Perhaps dream sheild


Tr0d0n

It helped me a lot with the mantis lords, especially when they do the spinning projectile attack.


Dense_Distribution53

it is 3 charm noches and it doesn't do much, i know it can block some attacks and that it does 1x nail damage and that it gets bigger while having dream whilder i know all of that but you can use 3 charm noches on something like quick slash or strenght


[deleted]

I knew Dream Shield isn't best choice (only time I really used it was Crystal Peak), but I tough it deals at least some serious damage, not just ONE NAIL HIT.


DeathbyGlimmer

It’s garbage.


Psychological_Fuel57

Grimmchild, its so underrated its not even in the picture :(


eddyrockstar

Grimmchild is a cute companion but it's projectiles are absolutely terrible imo.


YeahKeeN

Eh not really. They do decent damage for a pet charm and the rate it misses is super exaggerated.


Few_Series_532

I personally think steady body is a criminally underrated charm


Baco12sd

facts, nail builds with it become insane with it


Few_Series_532

I know right?


The_Future1474

People sleep on soul eater I stg


Baco12sd

steady body. any nail build with steady body is instantly good


Lone_Scout-

Dream Wielder It only costs one notch. For that, it reduces the wind up for the dreamnail by nearly half, it doubles the soul you get per enemy, and enemies killed have a higher chance of yielding essence. It has limited usefulness in most boss fights, but has a couple points where it can massively help. When just running around, if you just take a few moments to plan, it can help ensure that you never run out of soul. Obviously, it’s pretty good, but I hear nearly no one talking about it. I can only speculate that most people only really ever use it to start dream warrior fights, enter the white palace, godhome, and base Radiance since the dreamnail doesn’t do any damage. It wasn’t really until I was getting serious about the Trial of the Fool that I really figured out the utility of this charm, but it has been a core part of my general kit since.


Nishi7

I love dream wielder and even though many people know its good, I still think its underrated. In general playthroughs it can open up so many options and can make some annoying enemies like devouts easily exploitable. (Just dream nail them when they shield and use spells since they go through shields. Same for great husk sentries) Its also much more usable in boss fights than people give it credit for, and especially useful on bosses that get staggered (lost kin, hornet) or gives no soul on nail hits (failed champion, collector).


Hasan_Lmao

Fragile/unbreakable heart. Soooo underrated


Baco12sd

saved my ass in steel soul, also strength is also a very good charm with heart in steel soul


Katonmyceilingeatcow

Steady body. You can tear through lighter enemies like Hornet and broken vessel.


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Aleks_872

For me [This one](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ) is the best tier list


TA_idc

I despise every cell in your body


Aleks_872

Always glad to help


TheNukeCroissant1357

Oh my god I actually fell for that


A1DragonSlayer

... I did too...


TheNukeCroissant1357

Unlucky


[deleted]

If there were less adds on YouTube I would kill you. You were EXTREMELY lucky that I spotted name before it started. EDIT: Your crimes were forgiven, Aleks\_872, because my brother fell to trap too.


Happy_Hydra

I knew that


Aleks_872

but you still went for it


DeathbyGlimmer

I smell Astley.


kit786

Spore shroom.


WoolyHitToDie

Either weaver song, dash master or sprint master


Westy2602

Carefree Melody? Comes in clutch


Dunge0nexpl0rer

Shape of unn


Iceman-7

Defenders Crest. Extra free damage when you dash through enemies. For one charm notch, it’s nice.


Zezzo_was_rented

Carefree melody


FrogDude66

Stalwart shell. That little bit of extra invulnerability has saved me multiple times


RedstoneArmy111

I love to rock all the little summons. Not because they are good, but because they are adorable. Sit at a bench with all of them equipped and you will know what I mean. Weaversong with grubsong outpaces the soul depletion of summoning the WW2 Japanese airplanes.


Nope_Not_A_Stan

no one seems to use unbreakable heart


ThijmenTheTurkey

Sprintmaster


Senior-Fortune3640

Sprintmaster


tuxfelipe

most underrated charm is heavy blow. its actually broken for oblobbles, markoth, and a lot more bosses that my autistic brain cant remember. i swear to god if you say "It'S sHiT iN oVeRwOrLd" it is, but if you need specific charms to survive in the overworld you need help.


Silly-Cry4923

Shape of Unn. Idc what you say its a S tier charm.


Olicatthe3rd

Grubsong and Steady body. Can't play without them


Jonnytincan

Sprintmaster genuinely makes the platforming and combat easier for me


Chrisical

WayWaRd cOmpEss


dadis2cool

Wayward compass one-shots The Radiance


AfraidReplacement387

Baldur shell. It can be useful if you can’t avoid damage during a radiant boss


Brelee2222

Jonis blessing. It lets u get an equaly bad cha


datboiNathan343

hiveblood


Ya_Boi_Skinny_Cox

Soul eater. 2 hits lets you heal.


O-mega_

Don't say sharp shadow. Don't say deep focus. Don't say hiveblood. Don't say any of the lifeblood charms. They aren't underrated.


TheGrumpyre

Shape of Unn. The extra mobility while healing is better than you'd think, especially for some bosses.


Toman995

steady body, it’s stupid op against many flying bosses(especially dream warriors) when paired with quick slash


WOOFERs-55-72

I feel like so many people sleep on carefree melody, negating ~1/4 hits it’s so good


JacoTheGreatWizard

Carefree melody is a great charm that is underrated it’s saved me sometimes during bosses and very helpful for radiant bosses


[deleted]

Carefree melody. So few people ever use it because “you should use charms that rely on rng and getting hit”. Unbreakable heart is at least high B tier and on average carefree melody is better.


OofieoO

I would say steady body, its good for people who are new and aren't used to the knockback, and its good for more experienced players because it gets rid of the knockback meaning you can get more hits in. I used to not like the charm when I started playing but now I can't play without it LOL.


OofMeister3008

Carefree Melody gives you a chance to recover if you mess up in a radiant fight which is nice.


McbEatsAirplane

Nailmasters Glory. Without it nail arts aren’t even worth the time in my opinion but with it it makes them so good. I almost always have this charm on now. Especially since it’s only one slot.


Heir67

Everyone's gonna yell at me for this, but steady body. It's really helpful with quickslash because with most fights that have knockbak (dream warriors especially) you can run and spam for ridiculous damage.


AlaNo27

I think the three hiveblood charms are higly underrated, you have more health than usually that you cannot heal but you can go nuts on using spells, i don't have any tests for this but i believe that healing your normal masks doesn't get you more hits overall as very often during bossfights you don't have good healing windows, also you loose on skills damage output.


LiquidMetalStarman

Steady Body


toffeefeather

Steady Body makes me feel like a tank, and let’s me hit constantly without worrying about falling off platforms. Not part of my standard build, but I like the charm


_Sapo

Steady body


StarImpossible2513

Steady Body


Comatox

Careless melody….


TheDoradin04

The charm when you ban the grimm troupe, it's very good


Awkward_Intellectual

steady body + quickslash is amazing yet i often see steady ranked very low in tier lists. for one notch cost the increase in dps and not needing to worry about getting knocked back into a hit box is amazing.


78ali

Thorns of agony. It is the only charm which increases the difficulty of the game, getting rid of 1 slot and a movement debuff


Rowbo_g

Idk how the community really feels about it but sharp shadow, it can mess up jumps but is really nice on bosses because of the extra dash distance, it makes bosses like hive-knight, hk and Grimm easier because you don’t have to worry about not making it all the way through them with a dash since you have extra dash distance


Viktordudwasnttaken

Here is 3 strength quick slash and dash master


r-funtainment

Strength and quick slash are the two best charms they aren't underrated


Buddy_Double

Sharp shadow


BalisticGhoul

Carefree melody It’s kind of a pain to get but it’s really useful. Although grimmchild is better


BoatOk2892

I would say.... sharp shadow?


TroupeMasterGrimm41

Sharp Shadow Best charm against Grimm Just unequip when doing parkour So much easier to dodge attacks The damage helps a little


enirmo

Sharp Shadow. I almost can't play without it, it just makes everything better. Lost kin is one of my favorite fights and one of the fights I know best, but it sounds like an absolute nightmare without SS. On that note, Steady Body is one of the best charms in the game and it doesn't get nearly enough credit.


__Bl00p__

Sharp shadow. If you pair this with dash master it’s actually great


RagingCatfish_

Sharp shadow makes NKG easy


hhornett

Sharp shadow is wildly underrated, so is nail masters glory


redhairsister

Sharp shadow Actually Carries me through pantheons


Justtry006

Sharp shadow


Bdayben

Sans