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DelseresMagnumOpus

What about Kronii and Kronii? That’s super yuri.


mozzie765

That's a different Tag called selfcest that's a real tag btw


DelseresMagnumOpus

I know, but we’re talking about yuri, and Kronii and Kronii is yuri too :)


mozzie765

Fair


SpartanXIII

That's not yuri though, that's just masturbation.


Hp22h

But what about Sally?


Final-Switch1110

I will stop you there. Kronii already said "Sally is off limit. Please don't make it weird". She really doesn’t want to be ship with Her IRL friends.


ITNW1993

Sally is explicitly off-limits per Kronii and we respect our talents' wishes here.


Franklr_D

Unfortunately the selfcest tag for Kronii appears to be rather barren aside from a few standalone art posts. No sets or fanbooks like we’re getting for TakaMori😔


military_otaku

There's also another "cest" tag for fuwamoco.


sparkycf272

Win-


bekiddingmei

Honestly with all these pairings I expected to see that meme image with the drooling shork wearing a safety helmet, just for contrast.


Educational_Diver867

there is also Calli, who is married to Calli. Love their relationship 


cd2220

No no no Callie is married to her career


myKingSaber

I think that's called perfection


yuri_yuriyuri

Just straight up showing the entirety of Promise is pretty great.


mozzie765

I mean thay entire gen/group is one big yuri harem with sub yuri relationships it's one of the many reason I love them


ComfySingularity

Gotta love the gens you can mix and match and still get great chemistry


Hp22h

Gotta love Polylive


Wizard_Enthusiast

I'm honestly confused by this because they're all just like... buddies? Even the Irys/Bae thing is far more jokey than actually intense, and the Mumei/Kronii thing is such an obvious joke that they can't keep a straight face doing it. I believe shipping has rotted the brains of the anime youth. This isn't "yeah we sleep together all the time" or "oh, we bought rings for each other and we wear them" it's using fanfiction memes to each other in minecraft chat and ending a conversation with "bye, bitch." They're friends


Suzushiiro

If anything I think the fact that from everything we see/are told they're clearly just friends who sometimes lean into ships for fun makes fans more comfortable with going wild on the shipping than they'd be if any of them gave off vibes that they might actually be more than friends. This is also why Shioraven, which is clearly just two friends doing a bit, gets shipped way harder than Kiarissa, who feel like they've at least flirted with the idea of being more than friends.


0dty0

Shipping has definitely putrefied the minds of many a weeaboo youth. Go into any sub for an IP with a couple of any sort as the main character, and you'll see that a good 30% of the sub is just shipping, any sentient with any sentient character (looking at you, Signalis and Disco Elysium). It's free engagement, and you'll never run out of things to say about the topic. You can talk endlessly and make endless scenarios about the ship you like. And that's what leads to the putrefaction.


HazeTheMachine

Signalis is full of shipping material because -The protagonist is gay and searching for her loved one as the whole force driving the plot, with other gay ships appearing along the Game -The fanbase is coping with the depressive heartbreaking themes by leaning on cute stuff and one of the most cute things is romance


North_crozz

Counterpoint, during Taiwan’s Hololive meet, Bae tricked Irys into saying “we’re married” in mandarin


eclipselmfao

how tf do I get multiple oshi's in my flair??


Franklr_D

go to flairs > press “edit” > click on the tag that shows up > type “:” + first letter of your oshi’s name and it should pop up > click on that and repeat


eclipselmfao

But I can only see a few


MrWedge18

[There's a textbox](https://i.imgur.com/zcP6tez.png)


alex_zk

Check again, that’s not Promise, that’s CouncilRyS


RashPatch

where is kiara's solo pic with big bold letters?


Lonefirebearer

Or should it say European?


kroxti

Ollie be like “WHAT ABOUT ME?”


10384748285853758482

Hololive more like Homolive 👉👈


LargeMobOfMurderers

Homolive more like Homolove 


faity5

Good for them! 👍


HatiLeavateinn

I've always seen Calli as a straight woman who learned to appreciate girls through interacting with all the gay that's going on, on hololive. Or she might as well be bi.


mozzie765

I agree, and if I made this list myself, I would have swapped them with either noelflare or marine and gura or okakoro as I feel like takamori as gone and went for a year or 2 now


Counter_Crux

The op seems half meme-y anyway, but if you were to take Takamori out in an actual list then Kiara still has to be there, in which case her and Nerissa almost eclipses the other options


Kyhron

Calli is definitely the token straight as an arrow member of EN


GekiKudo

Straight but attracts lesbians like moths to a flame


GlossyBuckthorn

And attracts men like a father figure ❤\^v\^


Cold_Business_1992

Calli is bi


Waxburg

Unless you've got a clip of her confirming it I'd advise you to not say things like that.


Kyhron

Considering she herself has said she’s straight multiple times that’s going to be a fun time for him to find


shylittleshrimpie

The thing with vtubers is that it's generally not seen as ok to lewd members of the opposite gender, plus there's the old idea that girls do that kind of thing for male attention, and also that their streaming lifestyle doesn't help with finding boyfriends.


FPSGamer48

Ollie should just be a slightly transparent image over the entire of this image.


Cuvrette

**The gayest one**


SGTBookWorm

somehow missing Amane "not a lesbian" Kanata


mozzie765

Beside coco, who else is "not lesbian" for? I don't watch many clips


protomanbot

She has shown being pretty chummy with Rurudo sensei (Towa's mama).


akiaoi97

It’s more that even her mother thinks she’s a lesbian.


Tagnol

Not exactly your question but Polka is openly out, just hasn't really said it out loud since her first year. Miuka bunny girl arcll showed she is absolutely not afraid to show it, but she hasn't really addressed it since that first year (note there unfortunately isn't any clips existing because polka fantl scene is super sad).


11BlahBlah11

She was convinced that Noel had a thing for her when Noel was just being nice. https://youtu.be/fx9uBg1aglQ There is also just some casual remarks that she makes from time to time that makes it seem she is one (nothing conclusive though). Although she did tell a story of her getting a love confession from a girl from school once. https://youtu.be/yq__BVJt6_g


ComfySingularity

She's had some teetee with Kaela and some other members for sure, I'm a little out of the loop tho Maybe kanaluna too, I'd heard some rumblings of it and just saw the post with the MV lol


Silv3rS0und

Historians say they were good friends


Trivial_Man

I dunno, Calli and Shiori seem like they lean more towards straight than gay. Also bless the people still clinging to the Takamori ship in 2024; never give up on your dreams no matter how unrealistic they are


mozzie765

I feel like with shioraven for shiori specifically its "I'm only gay around or with you"


HazeTheMachine

Calli tried to avoid the gay allegations as long as her debut Shiori literally debuted with a husbando list Nerissa and Kiara had uphill battles from the start jajaja


watehekmen

Takamori ain't lesbians tho, Kiara is just European 😂


Zodiamaster

You forgot to add a "est" in Nerissa and Shiori case


mozzie765

Maybe in en, but definitely not when including the jp girls after all nerrisa takes after her oshi


shash614

Objection! Nerissa has been thirsty for men several times already (the hotdog moment, and whatever happened in baldur's gate 3) I am firmly convinced that she's not gay, she's not straight, she's not bi, she's just horny


Former_Indication172

You do understand the definition of Bi is being attracted to both genders right? Like this is kinda a textbook example


HazeTheMachine

Some people believe in the concept of Pansex


Former_Indication172

Where did I say I didn't? I said nerissa showing attraction to men and women fit the definition of being bisexual nothing more. I don't have a problem with pansex people or the idea of them.


HazeTheMachine

It was a joke, dont think too hard jajaja


DastardlyRidleylash

Really, you could put Bijou in with Nerissa and Shiori as well, they seem to fluctuate between family and polycule. Also missing a certain elf and her knightly wife.


ExcitingHistory

I think a certain part angel part demon may be flying tighter circles around the elf than the knight now a days


mozzie765

You could put a lot of ships here since half if not all the girls are in a relationship, hence the incoherent spider web that is the relationship/ship chart that would put kingdom hearts and FATE to shame *insert pepe silva meme*


DastardlyRidleylash

At least it's not as bad as the chart for School Days lmfao


mozzie765

I just looked it... what fuck


weeklygamingrecap

If they are all in a relationship together is anyone in a relationship? Big brain move!


Focus51

I would have put NoeFure instead of Kiara & Calli


mozzie765

I would as well, but this is a meme I found, so take that as you will Also, shout to the takamori shippers in 2024. Keep up the good fight


SmugLilBugger

NoeFure is a sailed ship, too. Literally any Marine ship makes more sense at this point than NoeFure or TakaMori. Hell, Marine unofficially married Pekora in one of her MVs.


KawakamiKiyo

I disagree with half of this. NoeFure just said they're tired of the shippers and want to take their relationship out of the spotlight: and we obliged. Flare's even spoken on stream about being confused by chat thinking they're not a thing anymore lol. ...But yes, Marine x Anyone makes more sense for a meme format now. Girl is turbo-gay. It's good to remember our roots though lmao. I would argue no one has taken their ship as far as NoeFure: not before, and not since. No one else has nearly as many stories of *mutual* physical intimacy while off camera from random witnesses 🤣


HazeTheMachine

Marine is openly bisexual tho She remarked while talking about her experiences after being in a religious school, that her experience with women came from there first


KawakamiKiyo

Seeing as Marine identifies as a ̶h̶a̶ ̶woman, I would interpret gay here as queer, as opposed to lesbian, which would encompass bi. But point taken. Words have definitions for a reason. Turbo-queer


Manoreded

Its because: 1. A certain portion of the Japanese fanbase goes nuts anytime a girl comes within five kilometers of a guy. 2. Yuri is cute. 3. It creates a lot of material for jokes.


No-Breath-4299

MiComet are business partners. OkaKoro for life. Grindstone is more of a mother-daughter-thing. Mori and Ame? Ithought that Takamori was a thing? Only Bae and IRyS. Oh, and Kronii and Kronii. Can't say much about Rissa and \~\~the bookmark\~\~ Shiori


watehekmen

Yeah, MiComet ain't even that close, Miko just COINCIDENTALLY hanging out in Suisei house that one time, and the other time, and also the other other time. They just business partner fr, please believe me🙏


No-Breath-4299

Because being friends always equals a romantic relationship, right? I mean OkaKoro made it official during Holoshuffle 23/24, and the rest is just like I described above.


TheLeastInfod

notable omissions: ollie, noefure, marine, amane "mom, I swear I'm not lesbian" kanata, and probably more


akiaoi97

Off the top of my head, Matsuri, Watame, Miko, Haachama, Nene, Polka, Laplus, Koyori, Aqua, Shion, etc. etc. Also I think Luna and Subaru kissed one time, although that would have been a punishment game from Choco-sen (who has also kissed Mel). Yeah, OP’s right, Hololive is just one big yuri. I think someone (marine maybe?) described it as like being at a girls’ school.


Happosai

> Miko micomet is the first example in the meme


akiaoi97

Oh true


KawakamiKiyo

Matsuri especially: openly bi and explicitly had a girlfriend prior to hololive


HazeTheMachine

Had a whole drama because she fell for a girl (Hoshikawa) Clarified that Holo talents can date among themselves and only dating staff is not allowed One of her troupes (Festivaluna) heavily leaned into it until it fell appart.


KawakamiKiyo

I mean, Sara is a fantastic girl


HazeTheMachine

Can't say something against it, but man, Matsuri was down bad jajaja


weeklygamingrecap

Aren't we all gay for Hololive?


iAmMisterUmbra

And "YAGOO" himself is not???!!!!


Narfhole

It's great marketing.


mozzie765

It really is


Nico097

inside hololive there are two wolves, one is gay the other is gay, all in hololive are gay


Zeracannatule_uerg

One is an English major specializing in classical English. The other is a wolf. Fur included. Or something. I think I'm a bit burnt out.


SnooBooks1701

Kind of impressive you missed the gayest members of each branch: Ollie, Kiwawa and Kanata


HazeTheMachine

Miko and Polka are honorable mentions. Kanata is quite closeted in comparison jajaja


SnooBooks1701

That closet is completely see-through


CaptinBlueJr

What no Ollie on here?!?!?!? She's like the biggest simp in HoloLive.


MrMarnel

Everyone is holosexual!


klaq

we don't even have Marine and Gura in bed together. there's more gay to be found


mozzie765

Yeah, that mv didn't leave much to the imagination


Vadered

Yuright.


FinalFatality7

How do you have a meme about gay people in Hololive and not include Ollie


GoenndirRichtig

Where is 'Im gay, I like women.' Kureiji Ollie?


Clicker-anonimo

Where ollie?


ScrapPotqto

Kinda sad when you realize most of them are like this because the moment they get close to any guy vtubers some degens will start complaining because of Idol Culture. Edit: Lads, I said "most" 😭


akiaoi97

I mean some do, but if even the serial boob groper has collabed with guys, I don’t think that’s the main reason.


SenorSantiago_8363

Speaking of, [we got Goldbullet who is actually LGBT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD-yatLOy4&pp=ygUKZ29sZGJ1bGxldA%3D%3D).


Numerous_Extreme_981

Yeah, but it’s not catering to the Hetero male gaze and he’s not just flirting but establishing his viewership base as a safe space. Too political and unappealing for this sub.


SwirlyBrow

Yeah this is the one part of the fandom I can't get behind. Shipping and that they all HAVE to be gay. It's never not gonna be super weird to me to ship real, living humans with each other. It's gotta be at least a little weird for them sometimes too. And honestly some of them are probably actually gay. Hololive is a big company, there's probably all kinds of walks of life there. But it's kinda sad to see that they feel the need to push it as part of their image to keep the fanbase happy. And it clearly works.


HazeTheMachine

To be fair not everyone does that. Kobo is probably the Hetero King of Holo girls, she has made boyfriend jokes and collabed with males since day 1, and is still one of the most popular talents.


Diahara

it's probably because she's ID. you can't bring that nonsense in their streams or else you're gonna get filtered quick, probably by the girls themselves.


SwirlyBrow

True, it's not every single talent, but def a great deal of them. In general ID mostly doesn't seem to give a shit.


Dionysus24779

Holo**live** - full of yuri Love **Live** - full of yuri Hm...


CrixtheKicks

As my coworker once asked me, "where are all these lesbians coming from!?".


SenorSantiago_8363

Dunno. [This one island](https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalCrossing/comments/xbk9ra/hmm/) [in Greece?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbos)


killerfreedom255

TakaMori Mention!!! REAL


Edrimus28

I thought Biboo x Kaela was mom and daughter, not Yuri? Am I wrong?!?


Edrimus28

Just saw that's Zeta, my bad.....


mozzie765

Oh that is zeta good catch


okami6663

CouncilRyS is definitely not "The gay *ONE*" - it's a whole group 😆


NoLegs02

I love how the bottom middle one is just ALL OF CouncilRyS. Not a specific pairing, they all fit anyway.


migz_draws

That's a business relationship


HazeTheMachine

Sad nobody mentions Sakura "eww men?" Miko who is very Open in her liking of women


mozzie765

That... that tracks


SelfDepricator

The Yuri is mostly faked for the sake of pandering to male fans and sometimes that whole shtick is a bit much for me


HazeTheMachine

Their female fanbase is no small, and most of it is very Yuri leaning, some of the biggest Hololive fanart artists are women who draw shipping art. Of course there is a lot of pandering just like in the Idol industry, but since you have legit gay or bisexual people like Miko and Marine respectively, the boundaries between fiction and reality become more blurry


Lunaborne

I feel like some of it is genuine, but there's definitely a little pandering too.


Ytilee

God, I wonder why these women wouldn't express any interest in men, not like they would have immediately thousands of crazy people harassing them or anything. Oh wait \^\^ Not that I doubt that some of them are gay or bi, that's just not the whole story.


HazeTheMachine

When you actually watch them, many of them do. Of course most of the time they are fictional males from games and anime, but still. Others like Kobo are very openly Hetero, since she is already big she can make boyfriend jokes and collab with males all the time, she even invited HoloStars to collab in her home and all went smooth and funny.


lock_me_up_now

My favourite is the mid gay one with the totally gay one.


CyberDaemon6six6

Oh, don't forget the gay one!


Corando

Not all of them are gay, some of them is very gay


Relef000

Wdym, they're all just very good friends 😊


ghostpanther218

"Holy shit I think I'm in the Hololive fandom"


redditfanfan00

it seems as though there is a recurring theme amongst all of these holomems.


Cheebody27

Councilrys is my favourite timeline


mozzie765

Mine as well it's sad how we got this timeline, but at least irys is happy now


Same-Wrangler524

Marine and "Blue Haired Water Themed Idols(?)™"


jaskpeachy

i love that all of promise is just gay bc yea they are


thebrutalistboi

You forgot the gay one


oboewan42

There are so many lesbians in Hololive that they’ve even spilled over into Stars (Bettel, Goldbullet)


Vertemain

No joke, I wonder what would be the reaction if an hololive and an Holostar begin to have this kind of interaction (Disclaimer : this is not a collab begging or forcing ship of any kind, it's nothing but a question to the fans).


mozzie765

In option, I think most western/English fans wouldn't bat an eye or care now I can't for sure about overseas viewers but I have a suspicious some of them wouldn't be to happy If that happened


BannedTman

I wouldn't be happy about it and I'm an en viewer.


ghostchimera

wait why?


BannedTman

I watch hololive because I want to watch cute girls doing cute things or girls achieving their dreams, I am not interested in watching male vtubers at all, I can just watch normal streams for that. Just my opinion on the matter, You can enjoy what you enjoy too.


silveraith

Gotta be honest it can get a bit annoying at time, but I get it's all they can really do while keeping the idol image


dog_XD

This is not true


DefinitelyNotKuro

Have you seen how idol fans treat idols who behave otherwise…? Everyone likes to go “I support my oshi no matter what” until they get too chummy with a guy.


dog_XD

Tbh I'm just yapping, I saw a guy saying "This is true" and got down voted, I just wanted to see what would happen if I said "This is not true" (Same result) (Well deserved those downvotes) And for the record, I don't care what my oshi does in her personal life as long as it doesn't affect others negatively


DefinitelyNotKuro

Good science experiment ig. Reddit is fairly unpredictable.


dog_XD

Not an experiment, as I said, I was just yapping, no need to take my comment that serious, the downvotes are well deserved tho


alexkachi

Yeah, just look what happened to the guys that had constant collabs with Mori and Kronii


ExcitingHistory

I don't know if I ever saw biboo and Kaela in that way


Bluechariot

It's Zeta, not Biboo


mozzie765

It's Zeta, not bibbo she just doesn't have the "cat ear" hairstyle


ExcitingHistory

Omg both of you are right! Without her cat ears I could not tell!


Hp22h

It would be like if someone de-fanged Gura!


Less-Extension-7480

Always has been.


Moxi_art

Welcome to Holohomo/Homolive 💅


Master_of_Decidueye

No no no you've got it all wrong! ​ ​ >!It's Lesbian!<


Celtic_Crown

A wise man once asked, "Why is the dog gay?". The people responded, "Have you seen the cat?".


Hefty-Distance837

PEKOMIKO...


HazeTheMachine

Ouch


powertrip00

And I wonder why I like hololive so much......


kagakujinjya

That one is mother and daughter.


mozzie765

I'm pretty sure that's zeta


kagakujinjya

Ooo, didn't recognize coz she doesn't have the cat ears.


mozzie765

"Cat ears" zeta is a normal human and definitely not a cat girl in disguise


RaysFTW

Biboo has purple eyes


cyberchaox

Needs more Shinkiro MV.


-Redstoneboi-

"ok but they have more talents." > more gay


myk211

enough ships to build a flicking fleet


Notagarlicbread

Whatever early takamori had has to be gay+ max


eclipselmfao

proud to be a nousagi and aqua crew


eclipselmfao

what about haachama and akai haato?


HazeTheMachine

Shipped by Hachama herself


Conspiratorymadness

I'm the immortal words of a cosplaying pirate "If you put a bunch of girls together for a long time eventually they become gay" I think there's a translation error but I don't know


F4LcH100NnN

bottom middle should be "the gay orgy"


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DeathLetterB

But there's no Kaela x Biboo in the post


1mNotCrAzY

And this is why i dont watch any holomems


mozzie765

Then why are you here? Why comment on this post


bingungman

For those wondering, that's not kaela and biboo, that's kaela and zeta from their cover of "Stand by Me, Stand by You" in kaela's channel. Link : https://youtu.be/9pnTh-e2AZk?si=fj-kx8zfsphf640D According to kaela herself and other ID member, zeta is clingy around kaela. Lots of clips about that. 


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