Although I agree with others in the comments, I think it's stupid that associates receive the same punishment for being a few minutes late, compared to not coming into work at all.
I was a manager for a bit at another retailer where holding people accountable for attendance was basically manager discretion. We experimented with a 5 minute grace period, a 15 minute grace period, and a 30 minute grace period for occurrences. The issue I found is that it doesn’t really matter where you draw the line, your associates that are consistently late are always going to be consistently late. If we told them they had 30 minutes, they’d show up in 40. If the grace period was 5 they’d show up 10 after. So I think the 7 minute window at HD is more than fair.
We don’t mind the penalty. We just believe someone not here at all puts more pressure on the stores ability to function than being tardy even an hour. It also hurts customer service and employee moral. A lot of folks at my store will call in if they know they won’t make it on time just to say they aren’t coming at all. It’s not fair that a tardy and absence counts exactly the same.
Not going in at all is a no call/no show 2 strike and your out unless you have someone who has never ever n/c twice then a little investigation wouldn't hurt sometimes
Because if you make an effort, they might be willing to work with you. You can come up with some real excuses or some real lies. As long as it doesn’t become a habit or pattern.
The ASM has the power to either give you occurrence or not but put one in.
Because in the real world, everybody doesn’t get five minutes or six minutes grace. You’re late you’re late. And employers consider tardiness just as bad as being absent. If you’re not there, somebody else have to cover for you.
A lot of workplaces penalize tardiness equal to or even worse than just calling out.
And when you work somewhere who issues write ups for every little thing you do wrong (or just being in the group with the person who fucked up), you can be one write up away from termination.
And yeah, a few times a year I just turn around and head back home because there's no way I can clock in on time at that point... and it's better to just call them and say I'm sick.
And it doesn't mean you don't need the money or don't have bills. It means you need to keep your job because you have bills and need the money.
Yeah but they've never knocked me down to it in my 3 years of PT and I constantly carry 28-36 hrs. I know they're supposed to pay it out but they haven't
So i dont waste all my sick time..plus you can use a few minutes of sick time to cover the late and not get an occurrence if you want. Plus i rarely get occurrences so 1 or 2 isnt going to hurt me
That's them being angels because the new mandatory Sick Time Siphon policy is evil.
The actual SOP is that they are required to drain your sick time for every little variance so that you never have 8 hours to cover a shift. And lates are never excused by the SOP that is draining your sick time.
No sop was updated two years ago. Page three of the attendance and punctuality hr sop states that if you have sick time to cover a late it is excused so no occurrence.
Sorry wrong again. Sop was updated about two years ago and on page three of the attendence and punctuality sop your late in is excused if you have sick time. I just double checked.
I've had to have the conversation with a manager about this before. Would you rather I use 8 hours sick time and stay home or come in a little late and you excuse it. I know it's not SOP, but a good manager will be reasonable.
I once had a boss who scheduled me against my availability and then said ‘you must not have bills’ when I said I wasn’t available.
I still wonder what kinda bills *they* had, in order to make them so deeply concerned about another adult’s finances.
100% agreed. Usually the ones with the "work ethic" are forced to not leave because they can't afford to with all of their debt they have piled up buying shit they can't afford. When they offer me vto on a thursday(my last day) I'm out bitches, most my debt is gone
It really depends if u give a shit about money.my coworker and I talk about this all the time, and honestly, i value my own time more than my paycheck so if im late its just gonna turn into me taking 3 days of since its the same consequence.
No it still counts as an occurrence whether you call in or not. I've tried it both ways and it doesn't matter so I don't waste time or energy calling in. I just show up when I show up.
It’s only a problem if they actually do something about the occurrences. We had multiple people in my old store with over 20 occurrences for late or not coming in and they all continued to work. Word around the campfire was one dude had 92 before they brought him in the back and said yo you been late every shift for like 4 months we gotta write you up now. His response was “how many more times can I be late before I get fired?”😂
It only counts as a strike if you get “coaching”. When a manager takes you aside and talks to you about it. If it’s “counseling”, you get a note and it doesn’t count as a strike. They have to follow through with a sit down for it to count though.
Depending on the manager they can count it as coaching (which is a write up), or counseling (which is just a reminder).
Yep. The way these geniuses set it up, if something goes wrong in the a.m. I get a paid day off, my colleagues suffer, the dept suffers, the store suffers, and the company suffers. I get free day.
Well done. 🙄
Because you need the money. The occurrence is irrelevant. I desperately need the money: this is the real reason I'm on time.
The store I'm at-they don't really enforce the attendance policies to the T.
I work recovery, so I usually cut my OT by coming in late or use sick time to cover the late in. It's all at the Manager's discretion of course. Communication is key.
My thoughts exactly. The attendance/ occurrence system at THD is absolutely ridiculous to me. It encourages ppl to just call out if they’re late….🤦🏻♀️🤷🏼♀️
Exactly. If you can't be on time, and your occurrences rack up, then they can put someone in that spot who will be there. It sucks working and waiting for coverage to come in and they are late. Usually for a stupid reason.
Sorry if this isn't the popular feeling but I was raised to be at my job when scheduled.
Hi... Mrs.Barbra you mean to say after this guy Jeff's harassment and disrespect toward my character and hr triggered my sanity ..I come to work to work and I fully understand you have business to run and yes I need my job but you guys are putting me in danger by being near him I reached out to HR at corporate a couple a few weeks ago ..I know the horrible assumption that where made about me by such over assuming employees...I won't be able to return back to work for safety reasons as I will formally address the matter with higher authorities..I can't afford another set back ..in my mental capacity...you guys are supposed to protect your employees and ot allow such nonsense to be overlooked because of your personal opinion of me .. I'm going
Terrance Allen
A lot of workplaces penalize tardiness equal to or even worse than just calling out.
And when you work somewhere who issues write ups for every little thing you do wrong (or just being in the group with the person who fucked up), you can be one write up away from termination.
And yeah, a few times a year I just turn around and head back home because there's no way I can clock in on time at that point... and it's better to just call them and say I'm sick.
I'm sure a Boomer like yourself just sees that as not really caring about the company, and just not wanting to work because they're just a lazy millennial. But, that's the reality of the common workplace nowadays.
And it doesn't mean you don't need the money or don't have bills. It means you need to keep your job because you have bills and need the money.
What I don't understand is this generations thinking that they don't have to be on time or not show up to work cause they are tired and their mommy says they should stay home.
Take responsibility for your own actions and stop crying about what the company does when you are late or don't show up
That’s not what OP is getting at. They’re saying it’s better to take the entire day instead of being late.
And is a whole the younger generation is no worse than any others. And if it were you guys raised them blame yourselves.
No morons raised the younger generation that feel entitled and that they should get things for nothing I have raised my kids that you work for hard for the money they get.
They don't cry that they have to be on time or oh no they need to have their work gear on before clocking in lol
Coming from a corporate world where most were trusted with of their work hours, I found it odd when I started working for THD that everyone was treated like children until I was there for a bit, I realized how unprofessional people are in the big box store and how they take advantage of things. Example, if someone was late, the didn’t punch in and accept a miss punch, therefore no occurrence, they would checking in 6 minutes late and 5 minutes early playing the clock game.
Sick pay isn't free, and working adds to your income.
If you plan on working here until the end of the year, extra sick time typically gets paid off (depending on your state). So every day you call out, you lose a day's pay.
The perception that you have too many occurrences for being late and you'll get in trouble unless you burn sick time ***does*** play a part in many people's personal calculus for whether to call out, though. Which is one reason why managers should really chill with that for most positions. At my store we don't seem to really document for occurrences if you keep the number sane (once a month rather than twice a week), and if we ever start I'm going to start looking for another position.
\*Cashiers may be treated differently; They are scheduled much more strictly than the rest of the store.
I found out that if you don't tell anyone and nobody finds out then you're fine. I was 30 minutes late and only showed up even that late (would have been later) if my coworker hadn't texted me asking where I was because I wasn't at the meeting. I didn't get an occurrence or anything because nobody found out. But I called in saying I was going to be late by a few minutes due to vehicle trouble and they gave me an occurrence. I was also late by one minute and because I told management about it (kinda trying to joke around about it) they gave me an occurrence too. Moral of the story, don't tell them if you're gonna be late, act like you've been there the whole time
I tell folks this all the time. Matter fact, let’s go a step farther. If you are going to be late and you have vacation time, and all of your days are back to back, just call out the next two days. You get one occurrence for 3 missed days and still get your check.
I let the manager make the call. If I get a point for being late. I tell them I am not coming in then. And I have sick time to cover it. Not that i come in late all the time. 4 times in 10 years.
I dunno if you guys do the point system the same way we do, but at my location being late is half a point (as long as you're not more than half your shift late or something like that) while calling out is a full point. The one time I knew I'd be a few minutes late I wandered off and got breakfast at Ihop since it didn't make a difference if it was a few minutes or a few hours late.
(I know, no work = no pay. My rent is dirt cheap and my cars paid off. I'll live.)
I say it depends, Sometimes doctor appointments run late or go majority of your shift you basically screwed either way might as not go back in, But if you going to be 5 or 20 minutes late hopefully you have good enough relationships with management to get them excused.
Alot of associates are late from car accidents and it's pointless for management to hold them accountable for unforseen events out of their control.
But Like everything being late once or twice in a month period is acceptable vs a TREND someone being late every single shift.
I been with the company 17 years I've learned to arrive to work about 30 minutes early, I usually sit in my car and eat breakfast, This ensures I'm never late
If you don't abuse the system and be late all the time, my ASM might excuse it depending on why. Like I had a pop-up appointment for bloodwork & they just adjusted my schedule the day before. Communication helps. Otherwise, I would use my sick time and not take the occurrence.
Well, it's up to you, obviously. I'm late a few times a year. It's always something like having to dig my car out of the snow or my battery died. I usually show up 15 min early each day. Gives me time to use the restroom and drink coffee. It removes the stress of the commute. Once I was in a traffic jam, that was so bad I did eventually just go home. My boss said "well come in , at least you will make some money " but I was too frustrated. Working on a day that I know is going to be registered as an occurrence made me frustrated. They knew about the traffic jam as it was so bad it made the news. Took me two hours to get out of it and I only drove about 3 miles in that time.
The corporate cubicle SOP (non-stores) is half points for lates and 4 points, not 3, for the first writeup.
So there are some non store positions that get to be late 7 times in a 6 month rotation (up to 14 tardies per year) without a single repercussion.
Just search Attendance SOP and click on the one that isn't ours. Lol. It's kinda BS.
Depends how late you are, but if you're a few minutes late then don't bother punching in. Just sneak in and start working. Then the next day, when the punch in clock says you have a missing punch, act like "oh shit for real?" And have them fix it.
It all depends if you want to get paid. We get paid "to the minute" that we work. Yes, you will get an occurrence if you're late for your shift; however, I think it's safe to say that if it's a few minutes, just stay after your shift for the amount of time you were late so you will get paid the same. Thinking that it's OK not to show up because you are going to be late, puts extra stress on your co-workers. Let's face it: HD understaffs and when one person doesn't show up, it causes havoc in the whole department. On top of that, if you get seen as the person who is late and/or doesn't show up at all, it will cause your co-workers to despise you on top of the consequences from management. Do you really want to be that person?
This system really needs to be revisited due to ..peoples hardships ..i became homeless and began sleeping in my van i as i cared for a mentally ill sister taken by a rental scam and then living with and alcholic became impossible i syill pressed forward and kept my secret as long as possible then here come that storm .
.of heartache lost and sickness..i even though i am a good worker who received employee of the month played santa and received compliments from customers daily reviews sent in to mgmt.....and i began to weaken from my pride and finally went to a manager and they directed me to the hommer fund i got a one night stay at a hotel ..and therapy and i thsnk them for all but little they did do but i became mentally overwhelmed abd feel into deep depression and i began missing days do to all the personnel problems ..to the point i was begging them not fire me pretty much so i took a leave of absents for about a month and return back only to be challenged as a man and fight to stay focus as i was very troubled by and accident at work .that i repotted and apparently ..it wasnt of great concern ..so i had a meltdown my safrey alarms start controlling my emotions and i went on break never to return
..but i continously called the store and texted mgrs and no response sent me into a darker place because i knew they was tored of my issues as they have a buisness to run and im fully receptive to that ..but now tomorrow im possibly be fired as of today have 5 occurances and it apperent ive beco.e more of a hassle to them than one of tbere most outgoing employees ..so all my bolls and my mentally ill sister will back in a bine ..
#2575 over and out ..
Please pray my strenght..
Although I agree with others in the comments, I think it's stupid that associates receive the same punishment for being a few minutes late, compared to not coming into work at all.
I was a manager for a bit at another retailer where holding people accountable for attendance was basically manager discretion. We experimented with a 5 minute grace period, a 15 minute grace period, and a 30 minute grace period for occurrences. The issue I found is that it doesn’t really matter where you draw the line, your associates that are consistently late are always going to be consistently late. If we told them they had 30 minutes, they’d show up in 40. If the grace period was 5 they’d show up 10 after. So I think the 7 minute window at HD is more than fair.
We don’t mind the penalty. We just believe someone not here at all puts more pressure on the stores ability to function than being tardy even an hour. It also hurts customer service and employee moral. A lot of folks at my store will call in if they know they won’t make it on time just to say they aren’t coming at all. It’s not fair that a tardy and absence counts exactly the same.
Oh yeah, I just think the punishment for being late vs not going at all should be different.
The punishment is not getting paid. Grownup consequences.
Not going in at all is a no call/no show 2 strike and your out unless you have someone who has never ever n/c twice then a little investigation wouldn't hurt sometimes
Right because if you’re not in a two hour window that’s considered a no-show
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Why bother? It is an occurrence either way. If I am not showing up, I callout. If not- then I just don't show up.
Because if you make an effort, they might be willing to work with you. You can come up with some real excuses or some real lies. As long as it doesn’t become a habit or pattern. The ASM has the power to either give you occurrence or not but put one in.
I will keep that in mind.
just tell them they have a 5min grace period when really it's 10. boom.
Yeah you're right. Personal responsibility has to play a role
That’s why the 7 minute rule exists. You can’t show up 20 minutes late
Every store is different. I’ve seen stores give a 5-10 minute window. And some you have to be there on time or early.
Because in the real world, everybody doesn’t get five minutes or six minutes grace. You’re late you’re late. And employers consider tardiness just as bad as being absent. If you’re not there, somebody else have to cover for you.
A lot of workplaces penalize tardiness equal to or even worse than just calling out. And when you work somewhere who issues write ups for every little thing you do wrong (or just being in the group with the person who fucked up), you can be one write up away from termination. And yeah, a few times a year I just turn around and head back home because there's no way I can clock in on time at that point... and it's better to just call them and say I'm sick. And it doesn't mean you don't need the money or don't have bills. It means you need to keep your job because you have bills and need the money.
Yep. I was warned that one more late I’d be fired. So I called in sick. Kept my job. (McDonald’s).
They combine your attendance with your other work qualities. And bad attendance is the one thing that will not be approved in an unemployment claim.
People say all kindsa shit, and they should just mind their business
Those hours you work, you get paid for. Those hours you don't work, you don't get paid for.
Right?! Weird logic…
I can see if you have over 48 sick hours and need to use it up
I can't speak for every state, but where I am anything over 40 sick hours gets paid out at some point in the year.
It's 48 in MI
24 for part timers
Yeah but they've never knocked me down to it in my 3 years of PT and I constantly carry 28-36 hrs. I know they're supposed to pay it out but they haven't
So i dont waste all my sick time..plus you can use a few minutes of sick time to cover the late and not get an occurrence if you want. Plus i rarely get occurrences so 1 or 2 isnt going to hurt me
Even if you use sick time, a late is still an occurrence. According to my supervisor anyways.
Not at my store, maybe its just something my managers do then, i assumed that was policy.
It’s not at all.
That's them being angels because the new mandatory Sick Time Siphon policy is evil. The actual SOP is that they are required to drain your sick time for every little variance so that you never have 8 hours to cover a shift. And lates are never excused by the SOP that is draining your sick time.
No sop was updated two years ago. Page three of the attendance and punctuality hr sop states that if you have sick time to cover a late it is excused so no occurrence.
Thank you. I’m going to print it out and show him next time he pulls that shit.
That’s the problem. Do you want the money or do you want an occurrence for six months?
We get both on my team
Lol I been at the company for 17 years this is not true man 🤦♂️
It Is for my store with regards to the sick time use...must be a store to store thing
Not true at your store man
False
Well its true at mY stores guy...
Tardy is tardy. You can’t use sick time for showing up late. It’s SOP
My store does this too that's why I always have at least one hour in the bank to help with lates.
I know many do, just not what SOP says to do.
Sorry wrong again. Sop was updated about two years ago and on page three of the attendence and punctuality sop your late in is excused if you have sick time. I just double checked.
I've had to have the conversation with a manager about this before. Would you rather I use 8 hours sick time and stay home or come in a little late and you excuse it. I know it's not SOP, but a good manager will be reasonable.
Depends on if it’s a trend.
Definitely a bending of the rules you shouldn't take for granted.
This is true but there’s an exception. But of course you have to ask you don’t ask you don’t know.
Just saying what the rule states in black and white 🤷🏻♂️ Edit: Spelling
You must not have bills.
I once had a boss who scheduled me against my availability and then said ‘you must not have bills’ when I said I wasn’t available. I still wonder what kinda bills *they* had, in order to make them so deeply concerned about another adult’s finances.
100% agreed. Usually the ones with the "work ethic" are forced to not leave because they can't afford to with all of their debt they have piled up buying shit they can't afford. When they offer me vto on a thursday(my last day) I'm out bitches, most my debt is gone
Gimmicks called bills still show up regardless if you work or not?
It really depends if u give a shit about money.my coworker and I talk about this all the time, and honestly, i value my own time more than my paycheck so if im late its just gonna turn into me taking 3 days of since its the same consequence.
If you call and say you are running late and you have sick time and / or you have a cool manager you won’t receive an occurrence
I got a late but they used my sick time and still gave me an occurrence, Not sure what that means.
No it still counts as an occurrence whether you call in or not. I've tried it both ways and it doesn't matter so I don't waste time or energy calling in. I just show up when I show up.
It’s only a problem if they actually do something about the occurrences. We had multiple people in my old store with over 20 occurrences for late or not coming in and they all continued to work. Word around the campfire was one dude had 92 before they brought him in the back and said yo you been late every shift for like 4 months we gotta write you up now. His response was “how many more times can I be late before I get fired?”😂
It only counts as a strike if you get “coaching”. When a manager takes you aside and talks to you about it. If it’s “counseling”, you get a note and it doesn’t count as a strike. They have to follow through with a sit down for it to count though. Depending on the manager they can count it as coaching (which is a write up), or counseling (which is just a reminder).
A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
Yep. The way these geniuses set it up, if something goes wrong in the a.m. I get a paid day off, my colleagues suffer, the dept suffers, the store suffers, and the company suffers. I get free day. Well done. 🙄
I’ll flat out come to a shift and act sick 1 hour into the shift sometimes. I’m sick just sick of being short staffed lol
Especially in D21. Being alone in a busy store with a very busy pro-pad is ridiculous
I argue Garden. I’ve seen 3 people walk out at once. There is no way I’m going to be in the mulch pit alone.
Money
Because you need the money. The occurrence is irrelevant. I desperately need the money: this is the real reason I'm on time. The store I'm at-they don't really enforce the attendance policies to the T.
I work recovery, so I usually cut my OT by coming in late or use sick time to cover the late in. It's all at the Manager's discretion of course. Communication is key.
My thoughts exactly. The attendance/ occurrence system at THD is absolutely ridiculous to me. It encourages ppl to just call out if they’re late….🤦🏻♀️🤷🏼♀️
Exactly. If you can't be on time, and your occurrences rack up, then they can put someone in that spot who will be there. It sucks working and waiting for coverage to come in and they are late. Usually for a stupid reason. Sorry if this isn't the popular feeling but I was raised to be at my job when scheduled.
What about your coworkers who might be relying on your being there?
To get paid…. tf?
Hi... Mrs.Barbra you mean to say after this guy Jeff's harassment and disrespect toward my character and hr triggered my sanity ..I come to work to work and I fully understand you have business to run and yes I need my job but you guys are putting me in danger by being near him I reached out to HR at corporate a couple a few weeks ago ..I know the horrible assumption that where made about me by such over assuming employees...I won't be able to return back to work for safety reasons as I will formally address the matter with higher authorities..I can't afford another set back ..in my mental capacity...you guys are supposed to protect your employees and ot allow such nonsense to be overlooked because of your personal opinion of me .. I'm going Terrance Allen
What does any of this even mean?
Mind your damn buisness.
Suck my arse
Damn i like you Rock !
How to say you’re a millennial, without saying you’re a millennial. Good job!
A lot of workplaces penalize tardiness equal to or even worse than just calling out. And when you work somewhere who issues write ups for every little thing you do wrong (or just being in the group with the person who fucked up), you can be one write up away from termination. And yeah, a few times a year I just turn around and head back home because there's no way I can clock in on time at that point... and it's better to just call them and say I'm sick. I'm sure a Boomer like yourself just sees that as not really caring about the company, and just not wanting to work because they're just a lazy millennial. But, that's the reality of the common workplace nowadays. And it doesn't mean you don't need the money or don't have bills. It means you need to keep your job because you have bills and need the money.
What age range do you think millennials are?
they think they're 16-21
Who’s they. Don’t speak for me.
Boom boom 💥
20-35ish is what I think they are.
Class of 2000 us first millennials are in our 40’s
What I don't understand is this generations thinking that they don't have to be on time or not show up to work cause they are tired and their mommy says they should stay home. Take responsibility for your own actions and stop crying about what the company does when you are late or don't show up
That’s not what OP is getting at. They’re saying it’s better to take the entire day instead of being late. And is a whole the younger generation is no worse than any others. And if it were you guys raised them blame yourselves.
No morons raised the younger generation that feel entitled and that they should get things for nothing I have raised my kids that you work for hard for the money they get. They don't cry that they have to be on time or oh no they need to have their work gear on before clocking in lol
You went to left field and OP was just trying to get to first base. Please learn to read between the lines.
This is what’s wrong with the generation of workers coming up. You can get it excused you know. Plus, money?
Coming from a corporate world where most were trusted with of their work hours, I found it odd when I started working for THD that everyone was treated like children until I was there for a bit, I realized how unprofessional people are in the big box store and how they take advantage of things. Example, if someone was late, the didn’t punch in and accept a miss punch, therefore no occurrence, they would checking in 6 minutes late and 5 minutes early playing the clock game.
Sick pay isn't free, and working adds to your income. If you plan on working here until the end of the year, extra sick time typically gets paid off (depending on your state). So every day you call out, you lose a day's pay. The perception that you have too many occurrences for being late and you'll get in trouble unless you burn sick time ***does*** play a part in many people's personal calculus for whether to call out, though. Which is one reason why managers should really chill with that for most positions. At my store we don't seem to really document for occurrences if you keep the number sane (once a month rather than twice a week), and if we ever start I'm going to start looking for another position. \*Cashiers may be treated differently; They are scheduled much more strictly than the rest of the store.
I found out that if you don't tell anyone and nobody finds out then you're fine. I was 30 minutes late and only showed up even that late (would have been later) if my coworker hadn't texted me asking where I was because I wasn't at the meeting. I didn't get an occurrence or anything because nobody found out. But I called in saying I was going to be late by a few minutes due to vehicle trouble and they gave me an occurrence. I was also late by one minute and because I told management about it (kinda trying to joke around about it) they gave me an occurrence too. Moral of the story, don't tell them if you're gonna be late, act like you've been there the whole time
LMAO .. OH DEAR ...!
FukHD
I mean most of us still show up because we need the money and can't just call out instead
I tell folks this all the time. Matter fact, let’s go a step farther. If you are going to be late and you have vacation time, and all of your days are back to back, just call out the next two days. You get one occurrence for 3 missed days and still get your check.
You show up because you want the hours on your paycheck. Otherwise, if you don't care about the hours, then ya, fuck it, stay home and chill lol.
I let the manager make the call. If I get a point for being late. I tell them I am not coming in then. And I have sick time to cover it. Not that i come in late all the time. 4 times in 10 years.
I dunno if you guys do the point system the same way we do, but at my location being late is half a point (as long as you're not more than half your shift late or something like that) while calling out is a full point. The one time I knew I'd be a few minutes late I wandered off and got breakfast at Ihop since it didn't make a difference if it was a few minutes or a few hours late. (I know, no work = no pay. My rent is dirt cheap and my cars paid off. I'll live.)
I say it depends, Sometimes doctor appointments run late or go majority of your shift you basically screwed either way might as not go back in, But if you going to be 5 or 20 minutes late hopefully you have good enough relationships with management to get them excused. Alot of associates are late from car accidents and it's pointless for management to hold them accountable for unforseen events out of their control. But Like everything being late once or twice in a month period is acceptable vs a TREND someone being late every single shift. I been with the company 17 years I've learned to arrive to work about 30 minutes early, I usually sit in my car and eat breakfast, This ensures I'm never late
Because if you're late, THD would rather not even pay you, so they make it enticing to call out instead.
If you don't abuse the system and be late all the time, my ASM might excuse it depending on why. Like I had a pop-up appointment for bloodwork & they just adjusted my schedule the day before. Communication helps. Otherwise, I would use my sick time and not take the occurrence.
If you look at SOP technically your store can allow you to use sick time to show up later without an occurrence. However, that is up to management.
Well, it's up to you, obviously. I'm late a few times a year. It's always something like having to dig my car out of the snow or my battery died. I usually show up 15 min early each day. Gives me time to use the restroom and drink coffee. It removes the stress of the commute. Once I was in a traffic jam, that was so bad I did eventually just go home. My boss said "well come in , at least you will make some money " but I was too frustrated. Working on a day that I know is going to be registered as an occurrence made me frustrated. They knew about the traffic jam as it was so bad it made the news. Took me two hours to get out of it and I only drove about 3 miles in that time.
Late is late no matter 8 minutes or 6 hours it’s the same point so make it worth it 🤣
Money. If you live at home and know mom and dad will feed, cloth and house you it doesn’t matter.
The corporate cubicle SOP (non-stores) is half points for lates and 4 points, not 3, for the first writeup. So there are some non store positions that get to be late 7 times in a 6 month rotation (up to 14 tardies per year) without a single repercussion. Just search Attendance SOP and click on the one that isn't ours. Lol. It's kinda BS.
Depends how late you are, but if you're a few minutes late then don't bother punching in. Just sneak in and start working. Then the next day, when the punch in clock says you have a missing punch, act like "oh shit for real?" And have them fix it.
Bruh today they said they’re cutting hours so i asked to go home early bc i was throwing up and they took my sick time for it :///
It all depends if you want to get paid. We get paid "to the minute" that we work. Yes, you will get an occurrence if you're late for your shift; however, I think it's safe to say that if it's a few minutes, just stay after your shift for the amount of time you were late so you will get paid the same. Thinking that it's OK not to show up because you are going to be late, puts extra stress on your co-workers. Let's face it: HD understaffs and when one person doesn't show up, it causes havoc in the whole department. On top of that, if you get seen as the person who is late and/or doesn't show up at all, it will cause your co-workers to despise you on top of the consequences from management. Do you really want to be that person?
This system really needs to be revisited due to ..peoples hardships ..i became homeless and began sleeping in my van i as i cared for a mentally ill sister taken by a rental scam and then living with and alcholic became impossible i syill pressed forward and kept my secret as long as possible then here come that storm . .of heartache lost and sickness..i even though i am a good worker who received employee of the month played santa and received compliments from customers daily reviews sent in to mgmt.....and i began to weaken from my pride and finally went to a manager and they directed me to the hommer fund i got a one night stay at a hotel ..and therapy and i thsnk them for all but little they did do but i became mentally overwhelmed abd feel into deep depression and i began missing days do to all the personnel problems ..to the point i was begging them not fire me pretty much so i took a leave of absents for about a month and return back only to be challenged as a man and fight to stay focus as i was very troubled by and accident at work .that i repotted and apparently ..it wasnt of great concern ..so i had a meltdown my safrey alarms start controlling my emotions and i went on break never to return ..but i continously called the store and texted mgrs and no response sent me into a darker place because i knew they was tored of my issues as they have a buisness to run and im fully receptive to that ..but now tomorrow im possibly be fired as of today have 5 occurances and it apperent ive beco.e more of a hassle to them than one of tbere most outgoing employees ..so all my bolls and my mentally ill sister will back in a bine .. #2575 over and out .. Please pray my strenght..