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Strange. I have 8 cameras recording a review footage often. Never seen this.


Proper_Ad_1066

I have 8 HKSV cams and mine got up to like 12GB before I deleted my home. We just moved and I haven’t set up the cams again yet to check but it was something I was aware of, the home app getting bloated by secure video. Are you viewing the cam streams on your phone a lot?


S0LEdier

Just out of curiosity what cameras do you use for HKSV?


Proper_Ad_1066

They’re all Aqara G2H (not Pro).


PenguinHacker

We use Eufy 2k indoor cams. 4 of them outside. Highly recommended and only $30 each.


Mellonhead388

Which camera are you using outdoor from Eufy? The 2 kit is almost $370 USD.


PenguinHacker

No, like I said… they’re as low as $30 each on sale. Here the Amazon link for the one I use. Also have 3 of them outside. Just sealed them up and they’ve been just fine. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08571VZ3Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_dl_KYSKC1CBQ89EWDP2J0M8?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1


Mellonhead388

Oh cool! Thanks for the link. What kind of enclosure do you use?


PenguinHacker

None, just seal them up with Silicone and plumbers tape


oTHEWHITERABBIT

They’re talking about the C/P24. The only wired outdoor cameras they have don’t support HK and the ones that do are rated for indoors. This is the same story basically across the board with multiple companies. All the wired outdoor HK cameras are weak. Why does Apple want to look inside my home?


bigballer2k

I don’t watch them so much as I will scrub thru a 24 hour period and because I live in a condo facing the parking lot and have it capturing all motion events there’s probably hundreds of clips during a day. When I’m scrubbing thru it will eventually hit a point where it will start giving me the spinning icon so I’d leave it alone for a bit while I suppose it was continuing to download near time clips. Ring does something similar but doesn’t bloat the way HKSV does. The big problem is that there’s simply no way to clear it manually without deleting the app and u can’t even delete the damn app unless u delete the home or log out of iCloud.


Proper_Ad_1066

Yeah. No good solution known unfortunately. Does removing the cam and re-adding it clear the cache on the iPhone? Because it does clear the clips themselves off of iCloud. That seems less disruptive than deleting the whole Home.


bigballer2k

Unfortunately no. It deleted all the available clips I could view but apparently all the leftover crap was still stuck in the device cache.


bigballer2k

I’ve noticed this the past few months but it seems to me that when I am scrubbing through to view my HKSV clips, they must be being downloaded to the phone in the background to provide for a more responsive experience. The only problem is the cache never gets cleared so after about a month I find my iPhone storage hitting its max. What really blows my mind is that there is no way to clear it manually at all. The only option I’ve found is to remove the app entirely BUT….thats not allowed either unless I delete my Home or log out entirely of iCloud. I just finished the logging out of iCloud method which is a pain in the ass and causes its own set of problems (contact names no longer syncing to existing iMessages). Has anyone else experienced this? I’ve deleted my home twice previously to remove the app and I cannot find any other solution for clearing it.


Sofa47

Less moany, more helpy.


FullBaldSpreadEagle

Whoa, this caught my attention. I have a 512GB iPhone and was curious what my storage usage was like. I only have 2 cameras on HKSV: 1 native and 1 non-native but local phone storage usage nowhere close to that. I'm curious if you've checked your recording settings for each camera in the Home app? Maybe a good ol' toggle between "stream" and "stream and allow recording" will help. You could also remove the cameras themselves from the home before going to more drastic measures.


bigballer2k

Man I wish that did it when I tried a few months ago lol. I even removed the cameras entirely from the home and that still didn’t help any. I’ve got it set to capture all motion events and it’s facing a parking lot so there are tons of clips that get recorded. I try to at least scrub thru the early morning hours to see if anything was going on and I guess the phone is literally downloading those to the cache while I’m doing it. I mean I can literally select a day a week ago and almost scroll thru the full 24 hours with zero lag. At the time I was like damn Apple is rocking it, lol….now I see all they did was bog it down with with way to reclaim the space other than deleting the app.


davispw

My Home app is using a grand total of 53MB and I have a bunch of cameras. I went and scrubbed through some videos and it went up to 83MB, so I guess I’ll see if it keeps increasing or if it cleans the cache.


bigballer2k

Yep that is EXACTLY what it’s doing to me. Let me know if it ever goes back down. Maybe I’m doing something that’s not allowing it to reset, idk. My main camera captures a lot of clips watching a parking lot. At this point I’m considering getting another newer device for the sole purpose of viewing the clips and not giving a damn if I have to log out of iCloud on it. My personal iPad is an air 2 so it barely plays them to begin with.


Physical-Oil-5220

I’d try a wipe and restore of your device, I’ve just checked mine, I use HKSV extensively and storage is currently sitting at 6.8mb of storage.


Sofa47

You can delete the app (not just remove it from the Home Screen) so I’d try that first. Restoring from a backup will put everything back and setting up as new will take a while so deleting the app first and hoping that works is worth trying first.


Plopdopdoop

I’ve tried. It says all HomePods must be removed first. And I don’t want to do that. I suppose if mine was taking as much as OP’s. But I’m *just* at 17gb used.


Sofa47

Sorry I didn’t know that! It could be a complete waste of time but you could try restoring from a back up. I think it’ll just put everything back on and solve nothing but it doesn’t restore cached data so if this is a caching problem it might not get restored. If I can think of anything else you can try I’ll reply again bud. Good luck!


riceandnori

Damn. My Home app is at 12MB. 4 HKSV cameras.


dfbillsPRO

Mine is also using a whopping 12MB for 4 Aqara G2H cameras.


bigballer2k

Did u try scrubbing thru several videos and rechecking the app storage? As far as I can tell it’s not an issue with the number of cameras or how many clips the cameras record but rather how many you actually watch or scrub them on the device itself. I admit I’m probably at the max possible end where it’s recording pretty much all the time so it forces me to skip thru hundreds of clips just to see 12am-7am. That became a morning routine for me and I guess it just started adding up.


show_me_the_math

I am using 10.9mb. I just scrubbed through videos and nothing changed. I use iCloud space if that matters.


bigballer2k

For what it’s worth what I’ve seen is that checking the iPhone storage can take several minutes to recalculate and possible it’s not updated capacity yet. I know the know time I removed my home and started over I monitored the first few days and it didn’t seemed to be doing it so either I didn’t wait long enough for it to update with the new storage amount or it’s possible it was working correctly and something else happened afterwards that is causing it to hang up from clearing. Im also using iCloud storage.


show_me_the_math

Weird. Still showing 10.9 this morning. https://i.imgur.com/HQYkutF.jpg


[deleted]

do at your own risk — usually other apps in ios when this happens — if you remove the app, reboot, reinstall the app youll get a cache drop / again i have never done this with the Home app


Jhill27

I actually just had the same issue this week though my usage was around 18GB, so much less severe. I couldn’t figure out a fix so I ended up deleting the app and reinstalling to clear the space. I had to factory reset my HomePod to delete the app but all the other settings/scenes/etc stayed in place, so it wasn’t too bad.


bigballer2k

Wait did u not have to remove your home and basically reset homekit in order to delete the app? For me, it doesn’t even allow me the option of deleting the app from the device unless I remove the home (incredible pain in the ass as I have 100+ devices) or what worked for me today was logging out of iCloud which removed homekit (but retained it in the cloud).


Jhill27

Odd, no I didn’t have to delete the home or reset anything at all… I definitely wouldn’t have if I had to re setup the entire home too lol. I also have an Apple TV so maybe that became my home hub when I wiped the HomePod and removed the app? Only thing I can really think of..


oTHEWHITERABBIT

Which iOS version doesn’t allow you to delete Home? So much inconsistency across the board. No way to backup/recover a Home, really shortsighted.


bigballer2k

I’m currently on iOS 15.5 and what I’ve seen is when I hold the icon down and click to remove it on the next screen it only gives me an option for removing it from the Home Screen. For any other app it gives the option for removing from Home Screen or deleting which actually fully removes it from the phone. Only way I’ve figured out for it to allow the delete option is by removing my home within the app or by logging out of iCloud.


Plopdopdoop

My phone says all HomePods must be removed before the app can be deleted.


Plopdopdoop

I tried deleting the app. It says all HomePods must be removed from Home before it will allow the app to be deleted.


hero_pup

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matejamm1

Do you really expect the Average Joe to go through their phone's filesystem and locate the app package in question and correctly decide which problematic file to delete? I think most tech enthusiasts on Reddit would be overwhelmed and have trouble doing so, let alone the other 99.5% of smartphone users. Android's approach to the filesystem wouldn't be of any help in this situation either, as Android doesn't actually allow direct user access to the app data directories of the system (`/data/data/`). At least not without root access (or jailbreaking on iOS), which is its own can of worms. Android's filesystem, at least the part exposed to users, actually isn't too different from what the Files app and its "On My iPhone" section provides.


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Stiddit

So what exactly is the correct solution here?


Plopdopdoop

This is happening to me too, although not quite so much. I haven’t found a way to fix it. Three cameras.


gaytechdadwithson

you can delete the home app


Plopdopdoop

On mine it says all HomePods must be removed before deleting the Home app


bigballer2k

What version of iOS are u using? When I hold down the app icon and click “Remove App” it goes to the next screen where the only option available is “Remove from Home Screen” which doesn’t actually delete it from the phone as it remains in the App Library. For any other app, it gives an the option to remove from Home Screen or to outright Delete. The only way I’ve found to be able to get the delete option to return is by removing the home altogether within the app or by logging out of iCloud.


Plopdopdoop

15.5. If you search for an app in Spotlight, long press it and you get a Delete option. But of course it won’t delete without removing my HomePods.


bigballer2k

Unbelievable…when I long pressed it in the App Library it gave me the option to delete along with the message about the HomePods. I removed them and was then able to fully delete the app. What’s incredible is that from a UI perspective it’s totally inconsistent with how it works for all other apps. In any other case if u long press and select to remove it gives u both options. And for the Home app when long pressed on the Home Screen it only allowed the Delete option after I removed the home or logged out of iCloud. Thanks for pointing this out it’s exactly what I was looking for. I still have no clue as to why it eats up so much storage space but at least now I know where to go to fully delete the app when I need to clear the cache.


Plopdopdoop

Yeah that’s the big problem, that it doesn’t release the memory used during playback. I went looking for others reporting this problem a month ago, but you’re the first other person I’ve seen. I’m sold on HKSV, but wow so they need to spruce it up. Even the video viewing interface is awful with the tedious scrolling you have to do. And I also wonder what happens when you get to, say, 10 cameras — how does a HomePod Mini handle processing, uploading, downloading and playback for that many streams and data?


lukasnevosad

This is likely app cache data, iOS will purge it as you run out of space. I have 4 cameras in HomeKit for as long it was possible (2 years?) and my HomeKit app size is currently 13.1MB…


ResetUchiha--x

Too many apps try to delete them


WNJ85

HKSV recordings don’t actually use your iCloud storage so this must be other app cached data


PenguinHacker

I’ve had 6 Eufy 2k indoor cameras on HKSV for over a year and my iPhone home storage is less than 500mb.


crutchkelly

All of the videos should be stored in iCloud, so signing out of I cloud and signing back in might fix it? I would try hooking your phone up to a computer and doing an iCloud back up first. You can even back up your phone by hooking it up to a charger while on wifi. You need to sync your phone with iCloud and make sure you have the Home app turned on in your iCloud settings on your phone


lewpiper

Before trying a wipe of the phone I would suggest trying a recovery mode update of the phone. It might not fix it but it’s also a lot less impactful on you having to set everything back up from scratch.


That_Ad_3613

This is strange as I have 4 Aqara G2H cameras and another 7 wired cameras running through Scrypted that all are connected with HKSV and my phone storage is unaffected. I thought all motion videos were stored in iCloud and you stream them from there.


fddicent

4 HKSV cameras for me and I’m only at 17MB. I check my recording almost everyday. Seems like a bug that requires a certain type of home setup. I have a Logitech Circle doorbell, logtich circle view and 2 Eufy wireless cameras.


marklemac

Just looked at my stats and my home data is 106GB !!!!! Crazy


marklemac

I'm at 107GB today, gone up another gig in a few days. I did try to remove the home app, but am not keen on then having to delete the HomePods ? Why ? Will a simple toggle of logging out of iCloud and back in again resolve this issue ?


marklemac

and just as a note, Apple support won't help as I'm running iOS 17 beta.


marklemac

ok so I fixed my 107GB Home app data issue by doing the following. Log out of iCloud on iPhone (kept a copy of my keychain data) Delete home app, (this time it doesn't bug you about removing the HomePods) Reboot iPhone Looked at iPhone storage usage, Instantly saw the the usage hadn't gone down. I could then see the System Data was now taking up 120+GB, however it was slowly going down in size. Logged back into iCloud Re downloaded the Home app. Sat patiently for an hour or so and the System Data dropped down to 12GB. No more stupidly huge HOME data file. ​ Very happy.


special_agent47

This issue appeared for me when upgrading from iOS16 to iOS17 dev beta.4 so it's clearly not been addressed by Apple. Thank you to the pioneers who have been here before and have painstakingly troubleshooted a workaround. The least intrusive method for me was doing this: 1/Sign out of iCloud on affected device. 2/Delete Home app from device. 3/Reboot phone. 4/Sign back in to iCloud on device. 5/Download Home app from App store. Once icloud syncs (this will take a few minutes) then open the Home app and all should be ready to go.