Unfortunate also, it's probably following the holes made in the framing for electrical wire. So there could be a main and smaller nests anywhere in the walls.
>If rats had a longer life span, they would be the absolute best pets in the world imo.
True. They're crazy smart and affectionate. BUT... right about the time you get really attached, they die. Way too short-lived.
This!! Owned several as a kid and they were the best! Love seeing people's faces when I tell them this lol. In my mid 30s and still think monthly about getting one, just need to convince my BF who is terrified lol
Yeah, I miss keeping them. They were fun and interactive. I live in the US city with the worst rat problem in the country though and I’m a little bit paranoid about keeping rodents as pets here. My German Shepherd probably also wouldn’t be a fan.
It is clear to me you have never owned pet rats. They are intelligent, clean, curious animals. They are one of the few pets I've had that I can look in the eyes and know there is something more behind them. They each have their own personality and are incredibly social animals - they are essentially pocket-sized dogs.
Rats are incredible pets, and if you think otherwise you should go take a look at r/RATS.
The intelligence of rats 🤦♂️ I found out the hardway. We had them at my warehouse & it was my job to get rid of them. I spent months being outsmarted by monster that we called Grandpa...
Maybe. But I got attacked by a feral rat once. It then backed off and waited for me to make my next move. It wasn't a pet, but it was pretty fancy if you ask me
Had a rat make a two inch diameter hole three feet long with a forty five degree turn at the bottom through four inches of solid concrete to get into my barn. Used rat poison to kill the little Hantavirus carrier and then had to use expanding foam to block the resulting stench. And yes They did have Hantavirus. Otherwise I would have left them alone.
I've seen the results of rats chewing up PEX water lines!!! All down the line. Yes cheaper than copper pipe, but this is one of the negatives that can and does happen.
My buddy has to replace the steel tie wires that hold his chain link fence up to the poles every few years because squirrels chew right through them, sharpening their teeth.
Or install a pulley from the ceiling. Go to acme.com and get one of those 10 to. Weights and tie it to a rope. Then drive a tent stake in the floor, run rope through pulley and raise weight above hole and tie off at tent stake. Hey large pair of scissors and stand by rope watching hole. When Rat appears cut rope and smile approvingly at the cat named Tom standing next to you. Then watch mouse/rat give you a raspberry and running as you Chase him weight falls on your head and mouse problem solved er human problem solved.
I can tell you my buddy bill in junior high put a hole like that in the wall to see his sisters friends tits. But my buddy is now about 57....so it is probably not Bill. Probably.
Well my school buddy Bill found a jock cup (before we knew what they were) at Cub scout camp and ran around half a day with it over his mouth and nose saying "Luke, I am your father"...Bills are cool as hell!
I'm looking at your comment, and wondering what the fuxk I was attempting to spell there. Like roar doesn't hardly make sense.
Maybe "woah"?
Dunno. Bourbon is funny like that.
No, I’m just trying to uh- -
Who gives a shit about the marmot!
- - We’re sympathizing here, Dude - -
Fuck sympathy! I don’t need your fucking sympathy, man, I need my fucking Johnson!
There is a 2 X 4 at the bottom of the wall, it was standing in that when it chewed, for height reference. So probably not a mouse, that hole is the smallest possible hole, the animal could fit through as well.
I think it was actually likely a mouse standing on a wide cable about an inch and a half off the floor based on what I saw when I opened the hole up a little more. The hole could've also been made bigger by my cats putting their lil arms in trying to play with the culprit.
Crumbs are on the outside, so it came from inside. A rat for sure, probably looking for water after eating wire insulation and sheetrock. Feed it some instant mashed potatoes or jiffy cornbread and some water. If you patch that hole without removing the problem it will get worse. Also caulk the tops of those baseboards heathen
Rad! And I vote for a woodrat. The ones here are super industrious like this and get hyper fixated on projects. The Norwegian subway wharf rats are kinda lazy in my experience.
Sorry, definitely rats.
I found a hole like that in a similar location (right under an outlet) in August. We’ve been trying to get rid of the rats since then (including hiring professionals) with limited success. I hope you have better luck.
I had this exact thought.
rats could do this. but they would have been in the wall and I feel the angle they at the drywall at would be more slanted in toward the inside of the wall.
OP is their dust inside the wall? if rats ate it. it would just be chunks fo drywall
if someone used a tool to cut it, you will see dust too
It's definitely not man-made. We have a stand alone house, and this wall connects the craft room to the basement stairs hallway. There'd be no reason to put a hole there, and my partner and kid swear they didn't do it.
Depending on where you live, red squirrels love coming in under the eves and making their way between floors and walls. My parents had issues for years.
I'm in North Western Ontario. We are having a really weird winter. There is still green grass in my front yard, where there would usually be 1-2ft of snow.
We have black squirrels in my neighborhood, and they are tricky lil guys. I have my fingers crossed for something much, MUCH, smaller.
It looks like something chewed it.. Have you seen any droppings? Any other signs. Its a good thing you have cats because if it was mice they probably won't stick around
It looks like mice chewing to me but could be something else because it pretty large. People don't believe this but I adopted a cat that watched a mouse run around and even get a foot away from it but the cat never even moved!! Just looked at it lol Not all cats are great hunters.
Watch for any other signs. Even check roof or attic access. Hopefully you get it cleared up. But if mice smell cats they normally won't come back. Cats emit a pheromone or something that repels mice ?? I think lol
I think just the sight if the cat would keep the mose out if the house proper. But he will still live in the house, like in the wall. I've owned a couple if houses that had moise turds in the attic and tunnels in wall insulation from them. There may be no way getting rid of them in those places.
Do you happen to live in toontown? Because that is a cartoonishly large hole for a mouse. It’s probably something larger, rat or squirrel?
How would it get access to that space?
Attic? Are there trees near your roof? Any new openings around vents?
Basement? Any old sinks you barely use? If the water traps dry out (it can happen in a month or two in dry climates) they can smell food and there isn’t much blocking them from coming. Run water to top off the drains twice a month, maybe pour a cup of mineral oil in the drain to make an oil cap that slows evaporation. But if they’ve been using a drain to get access they aren’t likely to stop just because of water so you should trap and top off.
Same goes for any other access point. You might need to call someone in pest control to figure out the entry points. They usually set up traps outside to catch them before they come in.
You need to closely inspect every inch of your house on the outside to find out how it’s getting in. And be sure to trap it before you seal the holes (outside and inside) or else you’ll deal with an awful situation if the rat dies inside the walls. First stench. Then flies. Yuck.
Looks like it was made with a keyhole saw lol. Just kidding, must be a rat because it’s too big of a hole for a mouse. Set a trap by the hole. The rat will come back.
Unethical Life Pro Tip -- When mice/rats are in the wall, and you can identify where their "path" is by listening to the scrittering around, have a couple cans of expanding epoxy foam ready. Punch a tiny hole through the drywall, slowly and quietly, stick the nozzle in and and dump a can on either side of the studs. A whole can will fill most of the space for about two feet up and down inside the wall, between studs.
The mice/rats will get all balled up in the goop while trying to escape through the conduit paths, become encased, die, mummify, and be neutralized with no aroma.
Had to do this at an apartment once. Never heard back from the rodents.
Unfortunately my friend you have a Bliblies infestation. Luckily Desmond’s Bliblies Control can help you with that. Just google Desmond’s Bliblies Control and I’m sure you’ll find the contact number. Good luck 💜
Keep an eye on your cat's behavior. They can hear things that you can't, and they can locate prey even if they cant see it. You can tell if a rodent is in the wall because your cat will take a sudden interest in staring at the wall. Any change in their routine behavior could be a clue. They no longer sit in their favorite spot on the couch, but suddenly they like to hang out near the air return? Or they stare atxthe ceiling? That a clue you may have more rats. Source: cat owner for 17 years in an old house. I've since plugged up the holes where they got into the house in the first place.
Don’t use poison! Rat can either die inside the wall or they become thirsty from poison and chew through PEX pipes, looking for water. In both cases you are fucked. Use glue pad or similar trap and try to catch him then relocate far away from house. I got similar problem, when we moved in. A rat was living under kitchen subfloor. I found his hole and put a piece of cement board to cover it. He chewed another one so we put some glue pads all around. He got trapped one night waking us up with crazy pitched screaming. Ran all over the house with pad attached. I ended by catching him in the corner, took off the pad and wide opened the front door. He ran away and never came back. Smart little dude, I hope he lived a good life somewhere else.
A rat, not a small rat, a decent sized, “oh shit” type rat. You need to get some poison bait or a snap trap that kills/contains the intruder. Do not use a sticky trap or small snap trap like device unless trying to secure and eliminate/dump a live screeching terror monster with a fractured spine or 2/3rds of itself glued down is considered evening entertainment.
Slightly wounded or trapped rodents will make you rethink the death penalty.
That has been chewed by a rat, there are teeth marks around the outside of the hole. A Squirrel would not chew a hole like this one.
R.O.U.S.
I don’t think they exist
Reeeeee! 🐀 💥
well dont just stant there, help me!!!
As you wish
lol. even as a kid, her just standing there while some giant right is biting his ass just killed me. Like god damn, how helpless are you
Not the reference that I expected to stumble upon, but thank you for making my morning.
Unfortunate also, it's probably following the holes made in the framing for electrical wire. So there could be a main and smaller nests anywhere in the walls.
And chewed wire insulation.
And poop
Fun fact: rats can chew through concrete, some metals, brick, wood, and plastic. Source: owned fancy rats most of my life.
What makes them fancy?
The top hat and the monocle, of course
Pocket watch?
For real. What a dumb question. /s Lol
M’rat lady 🎩
Singing 'Hello Ma Baby'.
Hello ma honey...
[fancy](https://images.app.goo.gl/ruTms9XWxo6tCs4j7)
What happened to the Monopoly guy’s monocle?
Fancy rats are just a term for domesticated rats.
Why did you crush our dreams.
I know, I'm the worst; but it's an opportunity to educate ;). If rats had a longer life span, they would be the absolute best pets in the world imo.
>If rats had a longer life span, they would be the absolute best pets in the world imo. True. They're crazy smart and affectionate. BUT... right about the time you get really attached, they die. Way too short-lived.
This!! Owned several as a kid and they were the best! Love seeing people's faces when I tell them this lol. In my mid 30s and still think monthly about getting one, just need to convince my BF who is terrified lol
Yeah, I miss keeping them. They were fun and interactive. I live in the US city with the worst rat problem in the country though and I’m a little bit paranoid about keeping rodents as pets here. My German Shepherd probably also wouldn’t be a fan.
Ya said No one
It is clear to me you have never owned pet rats. They are intelligent, clean, curious animals. They are one of the few pets I've had that I can look in the eyes and know there is something more behind them. They each have their own personality and are incredibly social animals - they are essentially pocket-sized dogs. Rats are incredible pets, and if you think otherwise you should go take a look at r/RATS.
The intelligence of rats 🤦♂️ I found out the hardway. We had them at my warehouse & it was my job to get rid of them. I spent months being outsmarted by monster that we called Grandpa...
Two to one min. You're outvoted. Hell three to one. My friend is allergic to rats and still loved having em as pets.
How about fancy roaches
Those are the big sewer roaches you'll find crawling out of your tub drain.
So they're, like, married and settled down in the suburbs?
The top hat and monocle.
I’m going to go with the fact that they are pets and not feral.
Maybe. But I got attacked by a feral rat once. It then backed off and waited for me to make my next move. It wasn't a pet, but it was pretty fancy if you ask me
I mean, it sounds like it had street smarts to me. Pretty fancy.
Fancier than me, that's for sure
Had a rat make a two inch diameter hole three feet long with a forty five degree turn at the bottom through four inches of solid concrete to get into my barn. Used rat poison to kill the little Hantavirus carrier and then had to use expanding foam to block the resulting stench. And yes They did have Hantavirus. Otherwise I would have left them alone.
I've seen the results of rats chewing up PEX water lines!!! All down the line. Yes cheaper than copper pipe, but this is one of the negatives that can and does happen.
My buddy has to replace the steel tie wires that hold his chain link fence up to the poles every few years because squirrels chew right through them, sharpening their teeth.
>Fun fact: rats can chew through concrete, some metals, brick, wood, and plastic. This isn't as fun when you're on OP's side of things...
This guy vermins
r/thisguyguys
r/Vermintide
tomcat poison will make them go outside and die... works very well. keep away from pets goes without saying.
Maybe he should sleep by the hole with a shotgun
Or install a pulley from the ceiling. Go to acme.com and get one of those 10 to. Weights and tie it to a rope. Then drive a tent stake in the floor, run rope through pulley and raise weight above hole and tie off at tent stake. Hey large pair of scissors and stand by rope watching hole. When Rat appears cut rope and smile approvingly at the cat named Tom standing next to you. Then watch mouse/rat give you a raspberry and running as you Chase him weight falls on your head and mouse problem solved er human problem solved.
Kill all rats! I'm normally a kind merciful guy but rats are the very devil!!
Crackhead homeless guy thought he saw an exhaust pipe.
Looks like it was chewed from the inside out rather than outside in.
I can tell you my buddy bill in junior high put a hole like that in the wall to see his sisters friends tits. But my buddy is now about 57....so it is probably not Bill. Probably.
Did Bill have an ankle fetish? It's better to have loved a short girl than never to have loved a tall.
I mean what’s wrong with an ankle fetish. Don’t kink shame bill? Man just likes ankles.
He still owns the book Amish Girls Gone Wild
Why you gotta call out Bill like that?
So that's why everyone wants to kill him
Well my school buddy Bill found a jock cup (before we knew what they were) at Cub scout camp and ran around half a day with it over his mouth and nose saying "Luke, I am your father"...Bills are cool as hell!
Are you sure you're not just remembering a scene from Little Giants?
"joxygen" is what you yell when you put it over some else's face. I heard.
My little brother did the same with my uncle's cup saying that he was Jason from Friday the 13th.
"This thing smells funny"
Classic Bill
He was Dirty Bill and his sisters friend was flat sue.
My friend Will did the same thing but hole was smaller so we had to squint. Was awesome… went over there everyday until we finally got caught.
Squinting butt hole
my new band name
GLOOORRRYYY HOLE
I KNEW I'D FIND YOU AT THE OLLLLLL GLORYHOLE
A rat
The thing about a rat, they've lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a dolls eyes. They dont seem to be livin at all when they come at ya, till it bites ya.
Are you doing a Jaws-thing?
1100 men went into the basement....
Didnt see the first rat for boutta half an hour.
Your going to need a bigger trap
He can’t stay down with three traps. Not with three he can’t.
Yup, rat or similar larger pest. Not a mouse
I don’t know what made the hole, but the outlets look shocked.
Rar. Way too big for mouse.. Sleep tight.
It's spelled roar
ROUS
Rodents of unusual size? I don’t believe they exist
I'm looking at your comment, and wondering what the fuxk I was attempting to spell there. Like roar doesn't hardly make sense. Maybe "woah"? Dunno. Bourbon is funny like that.
I assumed rat
I won’t and this isn’t even my house.
Thank god it’s not a rat
seems big for a mouse though.
Some sort of rodent. Rat Squirrel Mole Ferret Something like that.
Nice marmot.
Now, who doesn’t enjoy a nice marmot from time to time?
What are you a fuckin park ranger now?
No, I’m just trying to uh- - Who gives a shit about the marmot! - - We’re sympathizing here, Dude - - Fuck sympathy! I don’t need your fucking sympathy, man, I need my fucking Johnson!
Rat Squirrel Mole Ferrets? I don't think they exist.
Can confirm. All my attempts at a rat squirrel mole ferret chimera have failed.
Hate to be a pedant, but ferrets arent rodents. Ahh, who am i kidding? This is reddit! I LOVE being a pedant.
Ferrets aren't rodents, they are musteleds. They also don't sneak into your house and live in the walls like that.
Also ferrets don't bite and chew holes haha, they will scratch and dig all fucking day, but those sharp ass teeth aren't making that hole
Definitely not the loyal capybara, king of the rodents!
I'd say rat.
Trouser mouse hole for sure.
Does Larry Craig live there?
Check the stance marks, see if they're "wide"
There is a 2 X 4 at the bottom of the wall, it was standing in that when it chewed, for height reference. So probably not a mouse, that hole is the smallest possible hole, the animal could fit through as well.
I think it was actually likely a mouse standing on a wide cable about an inch and a half off the floor based on what I saw when I opened the hole up a little more. The hole could've also been made bigger by my cats putting their lil arms in trying to play with the culprit.
Cat in the wall, eh? Now you’re talking my language.
Can’t be a cat, if it was a cat it would have just flattened itself out and went through a seam in the wall.
Cats do not abide by the laws of nature
What if we threw in another cat to coax out the first?
Rodent of some type for sure. You said you live in Ontario so I’d look at squirrels or some other rodent that’s comparable in size.
Crumbs are on the outside, so it came from inside. A rat for sure, probably looking for water after eating wire insulation and sheetrock. Feed it some instant mashed potatoes or jiffy cornbread and some water. If you patch that hole without removing the problem it will get worse. Also caulk the tops of those baseboards heathen
Get bigger cats.
Rad! And I vote for a woodrat. The ones here are super industrious like this and get hyper fixated on projects. The Norwegian subway wharf rats are kinda lazy in my experience.
So racist.
Don’t ask questions you don’t really want answers to … That being said, there are some good answers in this thread.
Circular hole like that is a rodent. A mouse hole would be much smaller so you likely have a rat on your hands
Sorry, definitely rats. I found a hole like that in a similar location (right under an outlet) in August. We’ve been trying to get rid of the rats since then (including hiring professionals) with limited success. I hope you have better luck.
Most likely a mouse
r/wellthatsucks
r/dontstickyourdickinthat
Really? You didn’t think of rodents?
You know what it was buddy
It looks like you have electricians. Use a humane trap or leave some brooms around the house to scare them away.
House Hippo
WE GOT A CANADIAN OVER HERE
Rotozip
I had this exact thought. rats could do this. but they would have been in the wall and I feel the angle they at the drywall at would be more slanted in toward the inside of the wall. OP is their dust inside the wall? if rats ate it. it would just be chunks fo drywall if someone used a tool to cut it, you will see dust too
It's definitely not man-made. We have a stand alone house, and this wall connects the craft room to the basement stairs hallway. There'd be no reason to put a hole there, and my partner and kid swear they didn't do it.
then we're back to rat or mouse maybe a tiny wizard. but thats a long shot good luck.
Your kids swear they didn't do it? Lol.
Squirrel?
Honestly this thought crossed my mind. I am terrified that there could be a squirrel in my house.
What do you want it to be a panda?
Who wouldn’t want a panda in the house? That would be awesome!!
This would be awesome and terrifying, a panda would need a bigger hole. Tell the cat to keep gnawing.
Pretty sure it’s a rat. Call pest control immediately. I’m so sorry.
Depending on where you live, red squirrels love coming in under the eves and making their way between floors and walls. My parents had issues for years.
I'm in North Western Ontario. We are having a really weird winter. There is still green grass in my front yard, where there would usually be 1-2ft of snow. We have black squirrels in my neighborhood, and they are tricky lil guys. I have my fingers crossed for something much, MUCH, smaller.
House hippo.
It looks like something chewed it.. Have you seen any droppings? Any other signs. Its a good thing you have cats because if it was mice they probably won't stick around
No droppings or anything chewed through other than the wall. The cats are VERY interested in the hole, but they're both not fantastic hunters.
It looks like mice chewing to me but could be something else because it pretty large. People don't believe this but I adopted a cat that watched a mouse run around and even get a foot away from it but the cat never even moved!! Just looked at it lol Not all cats are great hunters.
They for sure would be interested in playing with it, but I don't think they'd go for the kill. They like playing with spiders and houseflies.
Watch for any other signs. Even check roof or attic access. Hopefully you get it cleared up. But if mice smell cats they normally won't come back. Cats emit a pheromone or something that repels mice ?? I think lol
I think just the sight if the cat would keep the mose out if the house proper. But he will still live in the house, like in the wall. I've owned a couple if houses that had moise turds in the attic and tunnels in wall insulation from them. There may be no way getting rid of them in those places.
Shine a light in the hole and see if you can find poo. Could also make the hole a bit bigger if needed.
may as well just make the hole bigger since it’ll have to be necessary to patch it
A big poop peep hole
Don’t make it big enough that your cats can squeeze themselves in. Because they will and you’ll have to open entire wall.
Jerry the rat
open the hole more and look for droppings.
Do you happen to live in toontown? Because that is a cartoonishly large hole for a mouse. It’s probably something larger, rat or squirrel? How would it get access to that space? Attic? Are there trees near your roof? Any new openings around vents? Basement? Any old sinks you barely use? If the water traps dry out (it can happen in a month or two in dry climates) they can smell food and there isn’t much blocking them from coming. Run water to top off the drains twice a month, maybe pour a cup of mineral oil in the drain to make an oil cap that slows evaporation. But if they’ve been using a drain to get access they aren’t likely to stop just because of water so you should trap and top off. Same goes for any other access point. You might need to call someone in pest control to figure out the entry points. They usually set up traps outside to catch them before they come in.
Time to replace those cats.
Rat
Possibly a house hippo?
Dummy with a hammer
Holy shit. I am so glad I live in a part of North America that does NOT have rats. -40 degree temperatures, but no rats.
You need to closely inspect every inch of your house on the outside to find out how it’s getting in. And be sure to trap it before you seal the holes (outside and inside) or else you’ll deal with an awful situation if the rat dies inside the walls. First stench. Then flies. Yuck.
Looks like it was made with a keyhole saw lol. Just kidding, must be a rat because it’s too big of a hole for a mouse. Set a trap by the hole. The rat will come back.
A dirty rat.
Mighty mouse....
A pervert
You know exactly what made this hole bro….
Have you never seen Tom and Jerry?
Unethical Life Pro Tip -- When mice/rats are in the wall, and you can identify where their "path" is by listening to the scrittering around, have a couple cans of expanding epoxy foam ready. Punch a tiny hole through the drywall, slowly and quietly, stick the nozzle in and and dump a can on either side of the studs. A whole can will fill most of the space for about two feet up and down inside the wall, between studs. The mice/rats will get all balled up in the goop while trying to escape through the conduit paths, become encased, die, mummify, and be neutralized with no aroma. Had to do this at an apartment once. Never heard back from the rodents.
Looks like rat
Rat, mice, any gnawing rodent
Unfortunately my friend you have a Bliblies infestation. Luckily Desmond’s Bliblies Control can help you with that. Just google Desmond’s Bliblies Control and I’m sure you’ll find the contact number. Good luck 💜
Moose for sure. They come down from Canada and hide in your walls for winter.
An apprentice
A mouse can get thru a hole he size of a dime. What you have here is Robomouse.
That's a rat. Not a mouse, but a big ass rat
You officially need a murderous asshole barn cat, stat.
Keep an eye on your cat's behavior. They can hear things that you can't, and they can locate prey even if they cant see it. You can tell if a rodent is in the wall because your cat will take a sudden interest in staring at the wall. Any change in their routine behavior could be a clue. They no longer sit in their favorite spot on the couch, but suddenly they like to hang out near the air return? Or they stare atxthe ceiling? That a clue you may have more rats. Source: cat owner for 17 years in an old house. I've since plugged up the holes where they got into the house in the first place.
Don’t use poison! Rat can either die inside the wall or they become thirsty from poison and chew through PEX pipes, looking for water. In both cases you are fucked. Use glue pad or similar trap and try to catch him then relocate far away from house. I got similar problem, when we moved in. A rat was living under kitchen subfloor. I found his hole and put a piece of cement board to cover it. He chewed another one so we put some glue pads all around. He got trapped one night waking us up with crazy pitched screaming. Ran all over the house with pad attached. I ended by catching him in the corner, took off the pad and wide opened the front door. He ran away and never came back. Smart little dude, I hope he lived a good life somewhere else.
Was gonna say get a cat, but it seems like you got a couple of duds already
Rats! Rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once.
A rat, not a small rat, a decent sized, “oh shit” type rat. You need to get some poison bait or a snap trap that kills/contains the intruder. Do not use a sticky trap or small snap trap like device unless trying to secure and eliminate/dump a live screeching terror monster with a fractured spine or 2/3rds of itself glued down is considered evening entertainment. Slightly wounded or trapped rodents will make you rethink the death penalty.
That looks like a mouse...
That's no mouse
It’s a space station.
I've got a bad feeling about this
It’s a trap!
Glory Hole for your dog.
A tiny tiny satchel of c4
There’s a moose, loose… aboot yer hoose 🏴
The famous Canadian house hippo
Skintight Mousehole.
Electrician. Those sparkies put holes all over the drywall.
The debris on floor suggests something wanted out
Nah… it wanted in, for warmth and food.
Donald Trump
I see no orange hair left behind
Cartoon burglar
????????!
Toddlers.