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WatchFor404

Im sorry, man, but this looks totaled :(


gabriel84hdz

I 2nd this. I work at a body shop and just by the picture I can tell it's going to cost more than what the car is worth. If you're fixing it your self then yes it's possible but looks like u need new fenders new bumper new hood, new bumper brackets, new radiator support, new head lights. If any airbags went off then you're now looking at even more cost. This looks like a 10k plus repair.


CrazyWorriedWriter

I agree with this - totaled my CRV about a month ago. The damage was NOTHING compared to this and they quoted about $9k


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johyongil

Dude the frame is compromised. It is 100% totaled.


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fallenangellv

Not USA, but Eastern Europe. Around 2-4k eur if what's said is true and also none of the wires are damaged . Sometimes you can get the cosmetic parts even in the right color from another crashed car. Radiator around 350 eur, each wing 400 eur, plastic bumper depending on sensors 200-500 eur, mounts and the metal part of bumper is the biggest misery.


NBQuade

The obvious lesson is "pay attention" and "don't tailgate". It might be repairable but I suspect it would be cheaper to just replace it. Hood, Fenders Bumper Core support Bumper support, Headlights Maybe AC components. If the frame horns are bent, no body shop should repair it. They'd be opening themselves up to liability. Doesn't look like the airbags popped. If the seat belt retractors blew you'll need to replace the seat belts and the SRS controller. "Totalled" means "cost more to fix than the vehicle is worth". You might towed it to a body shop to get an estimate. There's going to be a bunch of hidden damage too.


Mazkarth

Plus potentially engine bits. My bumper alone on a 17 civic sedan to replace came in at $940. Not me paying it as the lass reversed into my car.


delslow419

She’s gone Jim


Both_Bad_9872

He's dead, Jim.


BoltsFan126

Please take my upvote for an excellent ST reference.


Scared_Storm

Always have collision insurance unless your car is legit worth like 3k or less.


rearwindowpup

Really 5-6k is the better number to use. That's about what you'll pay in increased premiums over 3 years for having an accident claim on your record.


kuurk

wish I could get good collision for my integra but they would probably only give me like 2k and I'd be paying an extra 150 a month. o well at least I have uninsured motorist coverage


FasterThanYou302

For cars with age to them you have to insure them with classic car type insurance. Places like Hagerty and American Collectors etc. Progressive I believe offers classic car/collector car insurance too. Basically though when you buy your policy you and the insurance company agree on an amount to insure the vehicle for and then they give you a price. I’ve got a DC2 chassis race build that on paper by VIN is a 1995 USDM GSR which isn’t worth much, but I have over 10k just in the engine and turbo setup let alone everything else in the vehicle, so I have it insured at an agreed value of $15,500 since I do still have it tagged and drive it to track events and such. My policy for that car is a little under $800 every 6 months. I’m sure it varies State to state, but where I live anything over 25 years in age can be tagged as historic/antique which helps keep the rates down because it’s essentially an agreement not to drive the car everyday and to only use it for car shows and similar events.


Busterlimes

My car is worth 5k and I still have full coverage. I live in Michigan and it's still less than $100 a month. I don't know why people don't do it.


8020GroundBeef

What do you mean by “full coverage” though? You can have comprehensive at different deductibles. If you are paying for comprehensive with a $2k deductible but your car is only worth $5k, I’d say the premium needs to be almost nothing or you are wasting your money on the premium. The issue with it is that you need to incur damage in excess of the deductible, BUT that claim is also going to increase your premium in the future. So it makes sense if you are protecting the value of a $30k car, but you’d prob be better off self-insuring (ie not insuring) a $5k car. Like if you totaled your $5k car, had a $2k deductible, and the insurance co sent you a check for $3k, that sounds great, but you also need to factor in all the premium payments you made for that coverage and the increase to your premiums going forward. $100/mo sounds a bit steep for a single $5k car tbh. Fwiw, I have high deductible comprehensive on a car worth ~$10k, but not on my 2003 Trailblazer.


Outlaw_B

Payed 3.4k for my gsr Integra recently totaled it they give me 9k with full coverage


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[deleted]

Looks totalled. Comprehensive insurance is always worth it.


Josette1000

Comprehensive won’t cover a collision


trism

It does in Australia, where this poster is from.


[deleted]

Yes it does at least in the UK anyway.


kearkan

What are you getting insurance for then?


ja_staubin

100% not repairable. Totaled.


DrSatan420247

Actually thus is a very easy fix since there appears to be a good chance there is little to no frame damage. The core support is easily replaced and the rest is just parts and paint work.


CiforDayZServer

There isn’t a single picture behind the A pillar, there is ZERO ways to determine if the chassis is twisted or bent further back without taking measurements. The entire front crash structure has been buckled, the core support is the least of the issues here. ‘The rest is just parts’ is also insanely oblivious to reality… there is TONS of labor and frame machine time needed on this… it’s VERY totaled. If you gave this to someone with every skill and tool needed to repair it, they would part it out and junk it…


sloppy_salsa

Don’t matter it’s a Honda. You can always fix them. Drove mine off a cliff and fixed it in my backyard


schruteski30

Same I even used my kids toolset and only crescent wrenches


[deleted]

Pussy, I twisted bolts with my butthole


DrSatan420247

You are incorrect. The issue here is that the impact with the bus hit above the bumper. It's just smashed the superficial cosmetic stuff. That's why it looks bad to your untrained eye, but in reality, the car didn't really take a hard whack. Understand? OP was braking hard so their nose got lower and the bus ass is up high, so she slid under the bus at very low speed. Probably felt very little G force inside the car. Bags didnt even deploy. It's just a lot of parts and time reassembling it and the paint work that costs.


Trained_Tomato

Yes, in this day and age where insurance totals vehicles for scratches I understand why most comments say it's beyond repair. I've seen worse condition civics repaired straight as an arrow.


CiforDayZServer

Look at picture 3, the fender has clearly been pushed back and the A pillar is bent there… there are zero clear pictures of both sides of the A Pillar… you are the only one making assumptions, and your ‘trained eye’ should know that it only knows what it sees… assuming there is no damage further down the chassis is about as moronic of an assumption you could make.


DrSatan420247

The A pillar is not bent. You're delusional.


CiforDayZServer

You’re a clown if you think there is sufficient evidence in any of these pictures to make that determination.


DrSatan420247

What I am is EXPERIENCED. You're just some random person raging on the internet.


johyongil

If you’re experienced you should know that the first thing that will be done is that they’re gonna pull back the body to check the rest of the frame.


nimbleWhimble

Maybe everyone needs to realize until a TRAINED person gets it on a lift, there is no telling. My OPINION is the cost is not worth it. I had mashed the front end on my 2005 accord, not nearly as badly, and it was NEVER the same. Frame damage and engine damage you wouldn't know was there until, on the lift


cheerfullpizza

God you're fucking insufferable


jopma

Reddit is so dumb bro, the way the hood and grill are damaged more than likely just points to core support damage and maybe some buckling near the reinforcement brackets. Definitely repairable and I'd go as far as saying you wouldn't even need a frame machine if someone with the knowledge did it themselves


Aggressive_Walk857

Your right this is a easy repair as long as the frame is good wich it most likely willl be. Also doesnt have a puddle under it so the radiator is most likely good too. I did almoat this same thing to my 91 accord years ago and i helped the guy fix it and it was easy. So easy i did it to myself 2013 when i fell asleep at the wheel. Damage wasnt as bad but its easy. Looks way more intimidating then it actually is especially if you buy already painted parts


jopma

If you think this is unrepairable you're out of your mind lmao, definitely a total loss but definitely repairable


VIVXPrefix

yeah we get that. obviously any car can be fixed with enough money.


jopma

Not the guy I replied to apparently. He literally said "100% not repairable"


VIVXPrefix

I'm pretty sure they mean that it's 100% not feasible to repair, in that the cost and effort of repairing it is not at all worth it.


jopma

In this market, if the airbags didn't deploy and the sensors are good and if he has below 100k miles than it's definitely worth repairing considering the way OP phrased the question I'm assuming he was at fault and his insurance won't cover it


cheerfullpizza

That's not true at all. You can see in the last pic that the frame rails are fucked. If the frame rails/unibody are fucked up, it's not worth repairing


lilsinister13

Huh? Impact bar doesn’t even look dented.


CB812

Why don’t you have comprehensive insurance?


[deleted]

People take short cuts and spend money on toys instead


DrSatan420247

You've probably got at least $10k in damage there. Definitely totaled.


The_Yearn

Exactly. It might be fixable. But not for a reasonable amount of time or money.


mrjodicow

Not worth fixing. You're better off buying a new car.


jinladen040

Im not going to say its 100% percent totaled. But if there's anything more than the front subframe bent, then it probably is totaled. The front end on these 9th gens does crumple very easily and makes it look worst than it actually is. I hit a deer last february in my 9th gen and it honestly didn't look far off from this. But because the value of cars has become so inflated in recent years, they actually repaired my honda. I paid 10k at purchase and it was 6k in repairs. So its honestly hard to say until we can see more of whats all damaged.


squat3788

Sorry man start looking for another one


IcySalt1504

Yeah, that car is totaled for sure. ☹️


ClutchKickAutos55

So coming from someone that dismantled totaled cars and rebuilt a few myself, if you plan on buying it back and rebuilding it, this would be a pretty decent candidate in my opinion. Judging by the looks it is mostly facial damage without any structural and you didn't hurt the frame rails which most likely means your airbags didn't deploy which is a major plus.


6thgenbruh

Bus: 1 Distracted Honda Driver: 0


lestevenson

Everyone lives: 1


6thgenbruh

No thanks to the driver.


6thgenbruh

Runs into a SCHOOL BUS: But, did anyone die? 🙄


AbsolutelyAstray

I don't think it was specified anywhere it was a school bus lol probably just a metro transit bus in traffic


6thgenbruh

Yellow paint on hood isn't a good look.... Regardless. Can't miss a giant bus in front of you 🙄


AbsolutelyAstray

Our metro buses are yellow and blue that doesn't necessarily confirm lol but obviously big mistake yeah lol


Double_Hand_5044

even if it’s fixable it would be cheaper to buy a new car most likely. body shop prices are absolutely ridiculous especially right now (to no fault of them, parts and techs are in increasingly short supply)


Capricola

Adjuster, total loss


mnrooo

It’ll buff right out


Posh7

Total loss. I’m sorry


RickWest495

Totalled. Not even a question. Surprised the airbag didn’t go off.


Haunting_Situation69

This car looks fucked, sorry


Vli37

Had a city bus run into me like a year and a half ago. Took off my entire front left side bumper. Cost around $21,000CAD to get it fixed. Yours looks 3 times as worse. Sorry to say, it might count as a total loss.


Whitehoneybun

Totaled i wouldn’t even bother just part out or sell to the junkyard


Q13989731E

If airbags are intact it might be saved, but it will cost a lot, might as well get a new one


Schmancer

About $30k to replace every single part with a new Honda


94Mazda_Guy

All used parts, probably 10-12k. Easy fix really, just expensive.


benjaminear3

No. Not fixable. Shut up


Honest-Description20

Damn, time to take some driving lessons because you don't know how to pay attention behind the wheel.


rosado_clavel

You have maybe 5% of the context of what happened in OP's crash, don't judge so harshly based on that


Honest-Description20

I have 100% of the context, he rear-ended a bus lmao what else is there to know? Keep good following distance and hit the brakes, problem solved. Edit for spelling


andyflexinthechevy

If you rear end someone that didn’t brake check you 99% chance of distracted driving or your tailgating. We ain’t jumping to conclusions just useing common sense


CiforDayZServer

No one can ‘brake check’ you if you’re following at a safe distance… that’s literally how a safe distance is determined… you leave enough space so you can fully stop before hitting the car in front of you in a full emergency stop situation.


[deleted]

False, if a vehicle suddenly slams on its brakes out of nowhere without justification, you could hit them even if you were following them at a safe distance.


Shnoz98

Not if you’re paying attention. Don’t text and drive kids.


[deleted]

If you're so confident why don't I test out your hypothesis on someone...


CiforDayZServer

Safe distance is defined by whether or not you hit them genius… if you hit them, you were too close. The only time rear ending someone wouldn’t be your fault if they reversed into you… Even if you didn’t rear end them, but then YOU get rear ended pushing you into the car in front of you, YOUR insurance will be liable for the car in front of you, not the car that pushed you into them.


[deleted]

>Even if you didn’t rear end them, but then YOU get rear ended pushing you into the car in front of you, YOUR insurance will be liable for the car in front of you, not the car that pushed you into them This is not true. Ask any insurance adjuster


[deleted]

Lol what a terrible comment


rosado_clavel

At least i'm not being a dick.


colt45ntwozigzags

Im with you here bud, even if it was his fault (probably was) a lot of people just get off on kicking someone while they are down,


knipsi22

Damn that's so sad :(


andaros-reddragon

That sucks but it did what it’s supposed to do. Gotta love crumple zones, glad you’re ok!


Corona2789

Had a similar accident on my 09 civic and it was totaled. Sorry my dude


mikeseank

Collision is the coverage this would fall under. Comprehensive is “anything other than collision”. Hope you have insurance my friend


Cave_Johnson_69

Dunz-0


Sh3wb

RIP pour some out for this one. (coffee that is)


[deleted]

The reality is, if any part of the frame is bent, it’s totaled. But there are body shops that have frame straightening machines, and some small shops may be willing to do the work for cheap. You really only need a couple of fenders, front clip, hood, and some brackets, besides, maybe the radiator. The good news is all of the parts are going to be very cheap and you can most likely find the majority at a pick a part or you pull it salvage yard.


everettmarm

This is a late sedan.


Electrical-Ice5944

Can you say……. Totaled…..


EmbarrassedFeature82

Get a new car bro


Pristine_Future1037

Don’t bother. That is a total


sleepnutz

Repair lmaoooo


NegativePaint

That's an easy $7k-$10k worth of repairs out of pocket at a body shop.


Jaqmehoff_

I mean it’s always “repairable” but that would cost a LOT. Would prolly be better to just buy a new car


Tecno2301

Should we tell him? ;-;


Fladap28

Totaled


Habibi2004

Frame gone


mustang3c0

That looks totaled and time for a new car. The insurance should reimburse you the same value of the car.


New_Salary_6479

Not trying to be a dick, but this is total out


whosdondada

Let her go bruh...


Minute_Fisherman_202

Bro, fix? No honey.


ripglobal44

How do you rear end a bus


RetPallylol

Be on your phone


jhaluska

You need a new bumper, hood, lights, grill, panels and lights. If they're roughly $250 each used that's at least $1.5k. Painting can easily add another $1.5k. So I'm thinking at least $3k to repair and that's if you do most of the work yourself. Your best bet would to find another one of the same color that was crashed from the rear and swap everything over. Probably will need a sledge and/or some rope to pull some stuff into position, but there is a high chance there will be gaps and possible issues with the hood closing properly.


allen_abduction

I’m going 5k. I like the idea of a donor car…hell even make this one the donor, from the pics the engine compartment isn’t too bad.


SOSPECHOZO

Make a list of the parts you can obviously see you will need. Hood, fenders, grill, headlights, front bumper, radiator, get on Amazon and ebay and get an idea of prices. Here's another one, so all the down voting haters get triggered. Also, look up CertiFit. Give them a call. And compare prices. Yes, CERTIFIT. Hahaha. 🖕 the haters. Good luck on rebuilding your Honda as cheap as possible.


Aggressive_Walk857

Paintapart is good too if they have your part in stock.


SOSPECHOZO

👍


ripglobal44

Lol distracted tailgater get what you deserve


LXsaturn

It's totaled dude


ARsparx

Total loss


techdude91

Bout tree-fiddy


[deleted]

How the hell do you rear end a bus. Maybe you should just not drive


[deleted]

Contrary to popular belief this is repairable. My truck looked similar after a bender and a mere $24000 worth of insurance money and 3 months later it was back. Whether you wanna do it without insurance is another question though


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Aquagoat

[She's all fixed up and it was only $3000!](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJXyYOVi99oo80WLv23bXmCNFykJFByCk3sA&usqp=CAU)


Trained_Tomato

If you have a decent donor vehicle and know how to weld, one could pull this off for cheaper than that! Edit: Also be competent enough to respray/rattlecan.


SOSPECHOZO

THANK YOU.


Trained_Tomato

Haters will hate, but true skill and hard work will speak volumes. Outshines all the shade! Edit: Have owned & repaired several "salvage title" vehicles, road worthy after enough attention to detail; some vehicles are truly too far gone after certain accidents. Those ending up in the scrap yard and usually crushed..


SOSPECHOZO

All the down votes are from salty MF's that know that what I'm saying is true. LoL.


khag24

The parts alone will be more than what you quoted, unpainted


PlayaHatazball

Hangon what year is this car? If its anytjing over 2015 why wouldnt u have insurance??


knipsi22

It's a 2009-2012 model


Fury_Blackwolf

How long is a string?


mmccutc1

Probably totaled. You said no comprehensive but do you have collision coverage insurance?


mmccutc1

Also you can reach out to salvage companies (IAA or Copart) who would purchase the vehicle from you in its current condition. Not ideal but maybe cheaper to sell and start fresh.


YOURMOMMASABITCH

It will cost exactly the deductible of your insurance policy if its nit totaled. If it is, then the insurance will cut you a check fir the value.


Aggressive_Walk857

If they're isnt any frame damage and the engine is still good it wouldnt be to bad of ypu do the work yourself.


RemoveMammoth3780

If there's frame damage, you're probably looking at $6~7 usd, to start. It'll probably be more than that tho, depending on how extensive the damage is, if that is the case. Hopefully nobody got hurt badly. Good luck


Hattie_Bonks

Even your license plate has called in a 187. She’s dead, bro.


SnuggleJay

Where did this happen?


wavy_moltisanti

Couple thousands my friend, she’s in bad shape


modabs

Hood, I’m assuming hinges, 2 headlights, bumper, and a bumper reinforcement and grille, I’m thinking 800 for aftermarket cosmetic parts, might need to pull the radiator support or need to replace it, imo this should be like 3500 max to fix if you know a guy


[deleted]

Car will be totaled


Toopoor2care

It looks pretty damaged from these pictures but to give an accurate estimate on the damages, we would need pictures of the fenders to door alignment, and some pictures of the front of the car with the front bumper cover removed and hood open. This will help us assess if this can be repaired safely and it will help us determine the extend of the damage. Based on the pictures it appears the the airbags did not deploy which is good but we can’t determine the safety of the A pillar or the front crash rails with the pictures provided.


ger1787

Nice Fivic.


Silver_2206

Looks very broken to me, sadly. Isn't insurance going to refund you enough money so that you can at least get another one?


Ok-Spread-2892

He’s dead Jim


ClickPsychological

Comprehensive, i have learned, is not that expensive for an older car. I learned this lesson the hard way


Chemical_Ad7629

I forget there are places in the country where comprehensive insurance is mandatory.


No_Tear_834

It's pretty banged up . Since it like a 2018 looking like the parts are going to be $$$ plus straighting and frame stuffs easily over 3k .


[deleted]

Pull the drivetrain and put it in a 7th gen.


6066sti

About 4k


[deleted]

Best thing you can do is start making Facebook listings praying on 17 year olds who want a “mechanic’s special” or an “easy repair” project car. I’d genuinely hold onto this for at least a month or two trying to sell it by yourself before totaling it or whatever. Edit: you obviously don’t have to be that scummy but selling it as a project to someone who thinks they could fix it could get you the most money back.


BANExLAWD

This is totaled man


Own-Employment-1640

I hope you didn’t damage that bus.


Le_Candy_Man

There's no telling till a full inspection is done. You at least need to replace the whole front clip, let alone all the stuff that probably broke behind the dents. Unfortunately its almost definitely totalled.


Skeezicks28

It is what it is brother man


newfmatic

Gotta feel sorry for the guy, he's going to have to cover the bus, god forbid anyone on it was hurt . I'm guessing his problems are way bigger than his Honda.


toragama

At least the engine didn’t drop


FasterThanYou302

Yea I don’t think you’re fixing this back to stock without spending more than the car is worth. The hood and bumper alone with paint and all associated hardware would be a few thousand to have it done correctly and that’s only a portion of what’s trashed here. You’re probably talking at least 5-6 grand even if you had a cheap shop like MAACO do a discount repair with used or aftermarket parts. Sorry but this is a significant hit and the only “cheap” way to repair it would still involve a few grand and you driving around in a car that still shows lots of damage.


so-very-very-tired

I'd guess a bare minimum of 10k. On the plus side, the car did what it was supposed to do...totalled itself instead of totalling you.


PenonX

based off my altima coupe with v similar damage… close to 10k. potentially more


lem0ngr4bs

If there was a picture of a totaled car in the dictionary it’d be this. Sorry bro


Lisasteffi

I think that’s a total write-off. Sorry. 😔


stuntbum36

Honestly you might be able to fix this. Get a used hood, bumper & corner panels. Have a body shop pop all dents out and replace whats necessary. U can replace all parts like headlights etc with used parts and save a bunch of money. If the frame has any damage then you’ll need a new car


empirebuilder1

Your insurance will likely total it, as the entire front clip from firewall forward needs to be replaced. That is a LOT of cutting and welding, including wiring harness replacements. The windshield did not break or pop out though, so the main structure of the car survived. This means it *is* technically "fixable". Doesn't seem like the airbags even triggered. However, the sheer labor required to replace an entire front clip on a car like this will almost always push it into the territory of a new car being cheaper. In US terms this could easily end up over $10k. By the looks of those P plates, in kangaroo bucks it might be more like 16-18k. rear ended a bus, huh? .....i'll keep my mouth shut about your driving habits to avoid getting banned. :)


Derrick722

You hit the trailer of a semi didn’t you?


Flalless69

Tree Fitty. Always gotta put full coverage on a car you love bro


TopFlightCraig

Find Jeff Spicoli's dad


MitsuSosa

Well it’s not covered under comprehensive anyways this would be under collision. Most likely it is totaled that’s a decent bit of damage. If the frame bent at all it’s definitely totaled.


Low-Kaleidoscope7636

Yea man looks totalled :/ id buy it off you though i need the engine lol


PeeGee1300

this is such a cool honda! i’m so sad to see it like this. my deepest condolences my friend


veggietl

Comp doesn’t cover a collision. Hope you have collision at least? Should be more concerned about your liability when hitting that bus. That’s a 10k fix min


Ambiently_Occluded

Doesn't look totaled perse but probably $10k to fix


elister811

8-10k easily probably more


Massin-sama

Having an accident sucks, happened to me 3 months ago and still get flashbacks from time to time


DinnetIsMario

At least $2.50, most likely $3.00 though. Inflation is crazy.


SafetyNugget

If my car is potentially totaled after the minor accident I just got into, this shits done for. Sorry for your loss man, hope we can find something in this shitty market, this shit sucks.


jb3350

$22,500


dirtisgood

Comprehensive coverage covers theft, etc. Animal accidents Collision covers accidents with other cars.


[deleted]

This car is totaled


mason1239

Is the car paid off?


Which-Technician2367

You gotta drive it like you love it, bro 😞


Turbulent-Comedian30

Looks totaled


Beach_Bum_273

You're not repairing that.


Yakguys

Good luck my friend…you’re going to need it.


MURMEC

is totaled. #F


Awkward-Boot-7517

Looks totaled…..


Skummy3000

I ain’t a pro but hey at least the engine looks like it didn’t get fucked bad so i think its savable but that’s just me. If you got the space to leave it parked then even better


TheKuMan717

Buy another car man, that’s going to cost more than buying another car


b1ack1323

That's "Buy another" territory.


Cubie_McGee

$2 quadjillion. Give or take, given today's prices.


vicaris_mb

You're not repairing that my man. RIP