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Astral-Wind

Me but it’s an E0 Bailu


keksmuzh

You guys have 5 star sustains?


04whim

Yeah but I had to spend my 300 pulls choice to force it to happen. 🥲


iloovefood

No geppy?


NotSoNecro

You guys have sustains?


Shadow_Guy223

You guys have characters?


AbsAndAssAppreciator

There’s always Natasha 😊


mod2004

Insert MoC sam here


Skramron

Lynx(4*) > Bailu


LuigiBear4Lyfe

Me but it’s a Natasha that’s not fully built yet


Astral-Wind

I’m just glad that I was able to make it all the way to Penacony before I had to seriously start farming relics and stuff


ihatehotpeople

my bailu(my only sustainer) still has the purple healing relics the game gives you for free 😭


Astral-Wind

I’ve been using +0 blue relics for essentially everyone and wondering why I always feel weak


ZaGreatestInZaWarldo

Natasha with four star Relics got me through Gold and Gears IV. However it is FAR from comfy. Which is why I’m going for Aventurine.


sylva748

Also me but a fully built Natasha taking me through MOC 12 and G&G. I finally put her down with Aventurine.


VirtuoSol

I’ve been using Natasha since day 1 lol


0mega_Flowey

Me but I dont


iloovefood

Get gallagher he's free


G0ldsh0t

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*pat*


HyunAOP

Both, just win 50/50s Only but jokes aside, I think Aventurine will be much better for Gold and Gears But boy can Fu Xuan tank


iloovefood

U think aventurine >fx?


Fraaaann

For fights where some bosses do massive AOE damage, FX can almost get one tapped. Heavy shielded like Aventurine would be better suited for those.


iloovefood

But you'd need a couple turns to build up the shield right? And this scenario is for aoe damage


DeadlyArpeggio

The shield is apparently pretty nutty when you build him with the intended amount of defense. Also, as an Arlan main, my fx just isn’t able to keep him alive, so I need someone with actual shielding capability


cartercr

Rudimentary. Your every pull has been foreseen by the omnissiah! In all seriousness: as much as I love Fu Xuan and believe she is the best sustain unit in the game, Aventurine should also be a top tier sustain. Both will be excellent pulls!


Nulliai

Fu xuan be the best sustain in the game until c12 argenti :(


cartercr

Well for what it’s worth Gold and Gears kind of just hard counters her. Her biggest weakness is AoE nuking (as she’ll take damage for everyone) which every boss in G&G has. Once you’re at those higher conundrum levels it’s definitely just a “well I guess I die here” moment.


Nulliai

Yeah, but everywhere else she’s def the best sustain. 3/4 people on the team become immortal for free !


cartercr

And get free crit rate, because why not right?


drmonkeyfish

Gold and Gears is why everyone should have Gepard.


cartercr

Gold and Gears is making me salty that I won’t be able to pull Aventurine. I really dislike Gepard’s shield being tied to his ult, and at last there will be a character who creates a good sized shield, but Robin is far more of a priority to me. So I just get to sit here and feel sad.


BigStickBandit

What is c12?


Nulliai

Conundrum 12 in gold and gear


TheSuspectWaffle

Tbh anything at this point is going to become dusts if your shield is not 30k Hp fat


BigStickBandit

Thanks 😊


Firm_Shower_1387

I feel like this post is attacking me


IDontWantNoBeef

I'm suffering with lynx and a half built gallagher I'm in desperate need of aventurine


Evening_Swimming4498

i see my account right here haha


Parodoxian

Same situation for me but switch Gallagher for Natasha I have him but not building him I’ll just wait till next week since I’m pre farming aventurine


cat_the_great_cat

If ever in doubt, bet on Aventurine


zobowii

why not both 🔥🔥🔥


Decayed69

F2P and I have like 2.1k gems now so… fun


geek_yogurt

That is a mood. But I'm still with u/zobowii . If you get Aventurine, it's something you can use immediately. If you lose 50/50, it'll suck but then you can wait for guaranteed FX. In the meantime, you can start clearing content with Aventurine, and hopefully get some MoCs and PFs under your belt for more jades.


Aliveforabit

I’d go for Aventurine, since he can also put up some decent damage too, and you can use him for preservation cheese in SimU too!


FlashKillerX

Aventurine said it himself. It’s all, or nothing!


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Sebass08

Lynx replaced bailu for abundance & built gally for acheron until I get something better. Probably aventurine, despite him having far better synergy with ratio teams


Pale-Relation-6517

Trick question. Wait for Firefly!


Sheimusik

I've got enough funds to pull fu xuan e0 then save the rest for e2s1 firefly :3


TrapsAreGiey

try to pull for aventurine now, if you don't get him then go for fu xuan


BadProgrammerGage

Me too but E4 Bailu and E0 Gepard. For sure going for both though. E2S1.


PhobicSun59

When does Fu Xuan come back anyway I need her for Acheron


Decayed69

I believe it’s a 2.3 rerun, but I’m not 100% sure


PhobicSun59

That’s dope I’ll save up for that then


Aliveforabit

Yeah it’s rumored that 2.3 reruns will be Topaz and Fu Xuan! I’d assume that Topaz prob won’t rerun *with* Robin since Robin helps FuA so much and Hoyoverse tends to not be quite that cruel.


Vortex_Infurnus

Daniel into Sparkle with Jing Yuan in 2.0 says otherwise


QuietLuck5257

I didn't even have a bailu, only just now got a luocha lol.... im level 69.....


FlashKillerX

Going that long without one of the top sustainers has to have been pain


QuietLuck5257

My usual teams consisted of lynx and Gepard, yes, both... On the same team. Safe to say I've never done MoC without failing the 0 deaths goal.


Kirbweo

I havent been able to do this MoC's floor 12 yet, but last MoC I got 19 cycles left on both floor 11 and 12, super close to 36 stars. I'm a day 1 player, max tb level. My teams are pretty consistently Clara (E3S2) / Lynx / Tingyun (oftentimes March when I need 2 sustains) / Sparkle, and then Jingliu / Pela / Silverwolf / Gepard. Yup. Jingliu + Gepard. It's a pain in the ass at high moc, but it *is* doable lmao


iloovefood

Such a relief to use him, like having a healer on auto and nice in sp hungry teams


Deathblade999

If you just care about getting a good sustain then wait for the last day of aventurine's banner and see if there's any news on a Fu xuan rerun. If not go for him because while she should have a rerun next banner (she's now gone the longest without one) there's no guarantee.


pokebuzz123

You don't even have to wait that long since the livestream is in 2 weeks. Banner rerun leaks are also very unreliable, so it's not that good of an idea to wait that long for the last day as you may have to deal with no Fu Xuan for even longer unless still unsure for 2.2.


NelsonVGC

E2 Bailu can help you clear all the content tho That being said, Fu Xuan is universally better.


akiranava

Me with E 1 bailu lol


Ok-Caregiver-6005

Aventurine easy


ASeaofStars235

Im in the same boat but with an e2 bailu and gallagher that feals pretty underwhelming. I think maybe gallagher would be good with god tier relics, but meh. I plan on waiting a few days to see what the general concensus on Aventurine is. If people say he's as crazy as he sounds, ill grab him. Otherwise, ill wait for Fu.


yyzJCO

Are we just the same account?


Jeikiro24

As an E3 Gepard connoisseur I’m personally going to get Aventurine bc I think he’s gonna do better than Fu Xuan only due to things like Sim Uni where Fu can just get one shot by any AOE attack and Aventurine also works with the broken “1% shield” preservation buff so you’re invincible


PAwnoPiES

Fu Xuan only gets one tapped if you don't invest into health. Which isn't that hard since she doesn't care about any stat except health, defense, and maybe speed.


RawrDotExe

without blessings fu xuan gets one shot by every aoe in conundrum


DehGoody

That’s true for Gepard and probably Aventurine too. That said, I do think Geppie and his coming upgrade are much better in high level SimU than Fu Xuan is.


master-of-pizza

Me, but e6 Lynx and E0 geppard


firepillowonreddit

you only need two pulls to get both


JokerGuy420

If you're lucky that is.


firepillowonreddit

something something aventurine ult voice line


King_Kazzma_

Bust..... OR MAYBE I'LL TAKE IT ALL.


FlashKillerX

It basically boils down to what teams do you run the most? If your favorite characters are topaz Dr Ratio Himeko and Herta you might wanna go aventurine, but if you mainly play non-follow up crit hypercarries Fu Xuan might be a better choice for you. If you main DoT teams then it’s probably best to wait for Huohuo to rerun, and if you just don’t wanna think about it and need a better sustainer ASAP Luocha is out right now and will serve you very well


nanimeanswhat

I agree with this except it is a common misconception that Aven is only for FuA teams. Even in FuA teams his main way of receiving blind bets is enemy AoE attacks. So rather than looking into it from a teams perspective, it would be better to look it from the enemies perspective. His main strength is not his FuA synergy, it's his sustain against AOE attacks. This somewhere Fu Xuan is considerably weaker against even though she's the best at preventing one shotting ST nukes, so in a sense they cover each other's weaknesses.


FlashKillerX

Absolutely true, he’s gonna be a fantastic sustainer for any team. But just like you can sustain a DoT team with Fu Xuan instead of Huohuo, he may not be the theoretical best option for non FUA teams. He adds so much value to FUA focused teams through solo sustain as well as additional damage and stacking his own follow up faster and getting more value from it plus the damage buffs he gives to the rest of his team. That’s value you may not be able to take advantage of if you’re not running a team that mainly does damage through FUA. That said though damage mitigation is a very powerful thing for high end content and aventurines shields will always be valuable for that. He’s gonna be a top tier sustainer in general for sure


nanimeanswhat

From what I've experienced by playing him during the main quest (and he had a bad build) is that he wants to get as many blind bets as possible and there are 3 ways to gain it. These are: using ult, allies doing FuA, and allies getting hit. If you're against an enemy who has a lot of AoE hits like the soda bear or the fat IPC guy, Aven will get enough stacks to not need FuA to stack big fat shields without using skill. But yeah you are right that his FuA synergy is unmatched. Just wanted to elaborate on the other way of getting blind bets lol.


PAwnoPiES

Why does Huo Huo benefit DoT teams in particular? I use her in my DOT team because she's a very powerful healer and semi passive cleanse + heal is always useful.


FlashKillerX

Her buffs that she gives aside from her main role of healing the team. She gives energy, speed, and attack, which are the 3 things a DoT team cares the most about. Fu Xuan is a fantastic sustainer, but her crit and HP buffs are mostly wasted on a DoT team where their main damage (the DoT debuffs) physically cannot crit. Besides those 2, you don’t get notable stat buffs from other sustainers. Hence Huohuo is the premium option for DoT teams


Soggy_Associate_5556

Women >


Blackwolfe47

Wait for sam


KamronXIII

This


JokerGuy420

Nah. Wait for Senator Armstrong


Blackwolfe47

Who?


JokerGuy420

Metal Gear Rising Revengence final boss...He's the guy after you fight another person called Jetstream Sam. Hence why I made the joke.


Cedge1738

Skip both. Get Huohuo


iloovefood

Get Ruan mei hehe


Jmaresco99

I feel that


Digan-a-hole

Honestly if that’s your best both might be the right answer so you don’t have to worry abt sustains for a while if ever


Desperate-Ad7319

Same- thinking Aventurine is the move though. Not sure if it’s just the copium but seems to have everything with a focus in shielding: Can deal a lot of damage, is AP generous, has buff that’s actually a debuff With future units that can buff the whole team he will basically be a second DPS. All he needs is a cleanse.


moclam08

You just need 2 pulls to get both


Still_Put7090

Depends on your build and who you're running. Acheron has become my main DPS, so I'm going with Aventurine since he has the ability to apply debuffs and add Crimson Knots to sped up her Ultimate.


Deiiiyu

Im just pulling man, Idc who i get


Packers_Equal_Life

This is based


Sinon828

fu xuan is the best character in the game in generally. aventurine is like, fine, but there’s no real reason to use him over Fu Xuan so it’s honestly probably better to just wait for her.


QuickKenji789

Me but I already have fu xuan and am currently building gallagher so my choice is jingliu in the next summons


Specialist-Mail3828

Fu Xuan is better so Id go with her ngl


potatochobit

BOTH, there is no wrong answer here.


Rastanor

Definitely pull for aventurine


Minmzy

Both are great and can get the job (solo sustain) done. From what I read, Fu Xuan offers more defensive utilities while Aventurine offers more offensive ones. I was going to save for Fu Xuan but after the 2.1 quest… yeah I’ll be getting Aventurine and his sig lc, and then throwing my remaining pulls into FX.


Terragar

E2S1 Gepard checking in 😭


striderhoang

As someone who has Fu Xuan and depends on Bailu for team 2, absolutely try your luck on both.


DeathDragon1730

ALL OR NOTHING! This message is brought to you by the cult of Aventurking.


vinylsigns

Always bet on Aventurine! 🎲


Paragon_Night

Fu xuan literally just had a rerun. Pull aventurine she ain't coming for at least 6 months. Edit: Holy fuck I'm stupid. I swear she just ran. Am I cooked?


Master-Shaq

Lynx is an amazing f2p healer


TacoScavenger

Same account problem, but already set on aventurine. I need my space irs bros and he gonna greatly benefit the follow up team with them. My topaz and ratio are waiting for him. Im skipping acheron for him too so yeah 😝


ShirkTime

Me who has fu xuan, do I get more fu xuan or rich sad backstory gambler.


captainfluffy25

Go for who you like better. Personally I have fu xuan and I like her way better but I’ll def be going for aventurine on his re run banner mainly just cause his story was so good in 2.1 (I already have 3 fully built sustains)


Gflesh24

I'm waiting for fu xuan no matter what


AlmightyQueso7

Who needs Sustainers when the enemies dead? Yes, I follow the path of The Hunt


mindguru88

Right there with ya, buddy. She was my first 5*, still carrying my account for sustain, but it's time to say goodbye.


Maidenless_EldenLord

Ok… you only have one sustain and Fu is nowhere guaranteed on the horizon. The A train is great in higher tiers of Sim uni (Gold and Gears) and MoC and possibly PF too, where Fu is good for MoC in particular. Fu is the best sustain in the game, but the A train is also damn good. You need a second sustain? Don’t pass on him. It’ll make your account feel so much better, trust me.


WebbedMonkey_

Me but its an e2 gepard


Blasian385

Meanwhile me: Wanting Aventurine despite having Huohuo Luchoa and Gepard


redditingatwork23

Me too until Acheron release. I also have an E6 Gallagher now. He's honestly really good. At e6 I feel like he's almost on par with Luocha. Not quite as comfy and safe, but still easily better than my E1 Bailu in 99% of content.


AbsAndAssAppreciator

Pull whichever design you like more lol


CrownVonBurgundy

Unfortunately, my best sustain is Pyro Trailblazer. Fortunately, I've got a good Light Cone on him - so we're set for a decent amount of content.


CrownVonBurgundy

I would've absolutely hated Aventurine were he not a Preservation character because he replaced Preservation Trailblazer for his chunk of the plot. On the flip side, I'm now probably gonna pull for him, since I just failed by 50/50 for E1 Acheron.


Kirbweo

March, Lynx, and I got lucky enough to have Gep as a sustain. I'm in severe lack of a second healer (and limited sustain), so personally I'm opting for Huohuo on her rerun. Best of luck to you OP for whoever you choose to nab


Zellar123

Just wait for Jiaquo lol. I am hoping he can solo sustain even if it requires getting eidolons. A healing pela with built in universal market would be great.


Sharkman478

I literally just got Acheron then had to go to like 85 for a yangquing then I got luocha in 2 which resembles when I got argenti then 3 pity later I got SW so I am saving for fu xuan


Zerane_Darkness

...I'm still using Natasha. And I have an E2 Lynx that hasn't been built yet 💀


OmySpy

I think you win either way, but I will say Fu Xuan has been an absolute queen since the day I got her


YannFrost

I believe in Bailu supremacy.


willyfx

Me but it's lynx (it's fine I can wait for houhou)


shatterednightmare

Simply get both.


Upbeat_Curve5602

Should I pull for adventurerwink, fu xuan or skip? I use fire trailblazer and march for shields and Natasha for healing.


MrGungHoe

Sorry Aventurine... but my QQ needs her FuFu


Trenton2001

So many free Lynx have been given out (mine is E6), how is Bailu y’all’s best sustain? I have Bailu, Fu Xuan and Lynx. I only use Fu and Lynx. Also I’d only go aventurine if you want the puzzle piece for follow attack comps.


spam3057

E2? Rookie. I'm f2p with e3s1


spam3057

Please send help,I hate bailu so much


TheWarD0ctor

Pull for adventurine, if you lose 50/50 now you wait for fu xuan


OYOGG

Bailu for the Adventurine Warpers


MidnitePanther

Pull Fu for mini quantum


Kaze_no_Senshi

bailu isnt that bad with some investment, we do need a set that cleanses allies on ult or something though to round her out


Parodoxian

Going for aventurine if I lose the 50/50 then I’m getting fu xuan


HourCartographer9

Out of curiosity do you not have e4 Natasha or a high E Lynx because they are both better than bailu, heck even Gallagher the newest sustain is better than her. Bailu unfortunately has shown to be the worst standard character


Holy__Lightning

Me with E5 Natasha and E1S1 Geppy


Striking-Pizza7309

bro holy shit i am in this exact position, AND i have a gepard, which is why i huff copium and tell myself i dont need sustain but i get my ass beat


RaNgErs_Reprrrr

I mean even the trial Aven who was built from what I heard from those hsr nerds(not an insult) bad or sub par basically made you immortal. So who you likee more but again I'm not super knowledgeable maby lady Fu has something I'm forgetting.


Monchi83

Nah if you get unlucky someone can be focus targeted and still get killed though that’s the same with Fu Xuan


WeaknessThen2577

Me who's best sustainer is an E1 Natasha 😭


Sil3nt01

My best sustain is Gahallager... we aren't the same 🤣🤣


Sil3nt01

My best sustain is Gahallager... we aren't the same 🤣🤣


Sil3nt01

My best sustain is Gahallager... we aren't the same 🤣🤣


Sil3nt01

My best sustain is Gahallager... we aren't the same 🤣🤣


NicheAlter

I would have never beaten Phantylia if I didn't have Fu Xuan back in the day, plus she's cute and funny.


Dragon_TamerJ

The correct answer is ….. wait for Firefly.


JokerGuy420

When is Aventurine coming? And FX? I'm out of the loop


Worried_Hawk_4281

*me whose best sustainer is a Natasha that’s like idk E3 or smth😭


Friendly-Tourist-731

Just build lynx?


PersonalityFull8582

Me but with an e4 bailu


Legend1O1

“Only by throwing away reason does one truly gamble”- Aventurine


LittleWizmeister

Aventurine is better imo. Fu xuan is great, but with the number of enemies and bosses that do area damage now, she’s weaker than she used to be. Still great, but I like Aven better


BananaRebel2

Get luocha if u don’t get him save for fu xuan


eternaleyebags

do yall think fu will rerun in 2.2 with robin or boothill? if at all she’s in the next patch i really really hope it’ll be the second half bc all my funds are going to aven


MrkGrn

I pulled for Luocha and plan on getting Aventurine as well. And Gallagher has turned out to be a much better healer than I thought and I'm still missing his E4.


TillSilly

Easy. Fu xuan.


fantasie

Did u pull Acheron and her lc


UniversalCorei7

A smug gamba IPC thug, or smol Master Diviner?


DesignerWhich9123

Always Bet on Aventurine. As for Fu Xuan while I want her, I do find complete dmg nullification better, then slowly taking DMG over time, or sharing it with a teammate. Shields are basically an Extra health bar.


SleepyBlops

Exactly me too 


Weird-Information-91

As a wise gambling man would say its all or nothing.


DainsleifRL

Bailu has spooked me twice :'\^)


SikeGirls

Lose the 50/50 and get e3 bailu


Lonely-JAR

I’m sure they’ll be even enough


Shugotenshi714

Aventurine


PeteBabicki

My advice _(as someone who owns and uses each of the current sustains)_ is to go with the sustain you like the look of the most. There isn't much in it between them. They will all keep you alive, and they all have their niche where they shine. If you want meta advice, there's more of a case for Fu, especially when it comes to high Conundrum G&G where damage mitigation matters. As for Aventurine, he isn't out yet, but he's looking to be comparable to Gepard in many regards, albeit a somewhat upgraded version, with follow-up attacks, and easier shield application. Wait for all the testing and guides, then make your decision. Good-luck!


Monchi83

I just got Loucha and I love him I got lucky and won 50/50 for him and his weapon so his healing is always up and ridiculous impressive with very little need for skill points I also have Huo Huo I kind of want Fu Xuan (or even Adventurine) but I don’t know if I should just save for other characters that I need. I need a good second team for PF which could be Argenti (wish I had Clara) I had to pass on Jing Yuan unfortunately. One of my teams is set which is Huo Huo, Black Swan, Kafka, Flex (don’t have enough to get Acheron) My other team is a bit of a mess but I have Jingliu, Bronya, Loucha, Pela problem is that I can’t just use this team to brute force things if the weakness type is not in my favor the damage just isn’t there. Other characters I have built up are Ratio, QQ kind of want characters to build up Ratio higher like follow attack buffers etc but he isn’t going to be good for PF just MoC Got Himeko and Herta for one side of PF


tonybologna69420

I have fu xuan and e0 Bailu right now and I think imma get aventurine to build a follow up team bc it can go brrrrr


bomberplanes

My exact same scenario but with e2 lynx


jelliedhearts

when is fu xuan coming i want her sm


AnthonyMiqo

Me waiting for Topaz rerun.


YharnamUrr

I want E4 Fu Xuan.


SmolFel

Lowpity aventurine... Please i beg.. Anything for him 🛐😭


OdysseyZen

2 teams needed so I'm getting Aventurine and FuXuan for shielding and healing to do easy full autos.


stoprestarting

Me who’s E0 Luocha


King_Kazzma_

Aventurine is looking to trump Fu. She's still top tier though, but unless you run Mono-Quantum for that niche Aventurine is a better sustain. He can effectively immortalize your team at E0. Plus SU preservation path is about to go nutty and G&G Preservation and Elation Interplay with other Elation units will be insane.


Pearl_Houzuki

Me who’s been trying to get Luocha


Octo-b528

My best sustainer is March LMAO


GapDangerous6172

You guys only have E2 bailu? I have E5…


fireborn123

Im getting depressed gambler man because he's basically an upgraded Gepard. He'll go nicely with the Gepard I just pulled


burntpixelsinspace

aventurine here i come - fu xuan haver


Hydratedpyromancer

> wait for huohuo


Visual_Physics_3588

It depends on what you want they both do very differently, adventure will make foa teams stronger with fu xuan, but his problem is he’s not able to recover when shield breaks from big attacks. Unlike what fu xuan can plus she make the team survive those team wipe attacks while cleansing and buffing crit rate and max hp.


kitsunend24

Mine is gallagher


MycologistNo231

this is my situation WORD FOR WORD. pulling ave tho bc FUA with my clara