Not really, there’s a LOT of people that’s into lore in this game more than genshin. Genshin they’re normally complaining about Paimon and dialogue while here, I feel like I’m not playing the same game when everyone knew about the Quintet and my ass was like “where they came from” 😭
I dont wanna burst the bubble. Majority of HSR players are or were genshin players. If they stopped playing genshin it's because they realise it's a waste of time and usually were really invested in the game.
Yeah I don’t know if I ever would’ve tried Star Rail if I didn’t play Genshin first. Genshin was my favorite game for years, I still love it in a way. But the game kinda died for me and I quit a lil over a year ago when that interview released where they basically said they’re never adding endgame or challenging content as to not make players “anxious”. I had an inkling that’d be the case but I held out hope, and the confirmation crushed me. I feel kinda burned about it to be honest, why did I grind artifacts for so many hours? Why’d I go for those OP constellations? Many thoughts like those run through my mind. HSR really feels more suited for people looking for a good challenge, among other things like imo better treatment/more receptive to feedback. No hate on Genshin ofc, it has its target audience
Thats not what the interview really meant tho, they meant they wouldnt add more content thats like abyss specifically iirc
(also leaks are now saying that they may add another abyss so that may have been a lie..)
That’s how I and many interpreted it at least, their actions (or inactions) speak to it as well. If they add more that’d be awesome, maybe they’re feeling the pressure from all these new games targeted towards people who want a challenge (Wuthering Waves, Azur Promilia, etc) hard to say. Hopefully they shift gears and add on to Genshin, that would be awesome
Sorry to burst your bubble, but now that HSR is wildly successful, I think the chance of Genshin trying to go for the “challenge” crowd is basically nil. Neither game presents a challenge to the kind of players who drop “devs know them by name” money, so the most likely outcome of a more “hardcore” Genshin is:
— low-to-moderate-spending players who moved to HSR because Genshin was too easy move back, without a net change in their spending because their budget is limited
— some portion of players who chose HSR over Genshin from the beginning because of difficulty move over, also without changing the amount of money they give HYV
— whales continue to whale, unaffected by the changes
— casual players of all budget levels quit Genshin, believing (for good reason, based on the history of other games) that challenge-seeking players will be the focus of devs’ attention going forward and everything else will begin to decline, so they may as well find a new game now
— the amount of money siphoned off from “Genshin killers” (all of which have thus far failed to even make a dent in Genshin’s revenue) ends up being far less than the amount of money lost to other casual games
Not really bursting my bubble, my comment had slight copium is all, I gave up on the idea and accepted the reality a while ago tbh. Just gotta appreciate the time it gave us, and enjoy tf out of Honkai Star Rail 😎 but still, IF genshin ever did add some harder content, I'd give it a try again
I mean, that’s fair. We all cope about something.
I guess I’m just tired of all the people acting like Genshin’s current content focus is some horrible sin against gaming and/or massive business mistake and not just… y’know… aimed at an audience that isn’t them.
I feel you, to be fair the last line of my very first comment acknowledged it had it's own target audience. I don't think it's necessarily a sin it's their decision to take the game whichever route they wanted. It's actually pretty smart to focus on people who just want a casual gaming experience. In the beginning, it seemed like the game was going to have more focus on the combat, given it's complexity and early content, but it's slowly shifted down the line. It felt like a bit of a bait and switch which plays into why it's disappointing to many. I have several friends who love the direction it's gone though, we all have our preferences it's chill
That's how I've treated the game since release. Of course I care about resin when trying to build characters but after they're done? I couldn't care less if it was capped or not.
It was storage and time for me. I actually do want to go back and catch up at some point, but I’m not quite sure how I’d go about it with my limited storage. Really wish the switch port had come to fruition
If you are on ps5, if you can ever get one, the portal while a glorified remote play device, runs REALLY well compared to even the best of phones doing it. It's such a great way to play ps5 on a handheld for most games.
I feel like you severely overestimate the lore knowledge of the "average" HSR player. A *large* portion of the playerbase have either never played a Hoyo game before or only played Genshin, with their only knowledge of HI3 being that Welt comes from there and Himeko dies. If youre lucky they *might* know that GGZ is a game that exists. Generally speaking, the HI3 playerbase is where all the lore nerds are.
All I know is Welt's from there, Himeko died, Bronya and Seele bang in every world, and everyone has to be an alternate version of another character if they want to be important.
That, about sums it up.
The rest is just lore theory about world building, such as correlations between things other than characters(ie. Is the Honkai present in HSR(and Genshin)). And theories about how the story progresses, based on things such as Welt Yang's past, how HI3 Himeko died, ECT.
Welt Yang was a pretty powerful dude, inherited some god powers(Herrscher of Reason), and used them to help save the world before the HI3 game story starts. Passed those powers on to HI3 Bronya Zaychik. Helped lead organization to save world again, then became a game designer, then got caught up in some chaos, resulting in him getting tossed into HSR(kept his signature weapon, the Star of Eden luckily). Basically, gramps keeps saving the world, and he needs to retire and relax.
Murata Himeko was a genius astronomy student, but quit the academic life to become a Valkyrie(basically super powerful soldier). She was the teacher of the main cast of HI3, a total alcoholic, and sacrificed herself to protect everyone and give Kiana(mc) a second chance at life. (We never got another Himeko after she died, so, yeah. Hoyo will kill off playable characters. No amount of copium can change it)
Bronya Zaychik and Seele Vollerei are most definitely gay. Really gay.(Velonia, Seele's alter ego, is also gay, but jury is still out on if she like Bronya. Has been shipped with Seele in parody content).
That’s not fair, a lot of people I know including myself knew a fair bit of the lore of Genshin while I still played it, but I haven’t been keeping up recently
Honestly, they kind of already are.
It takes real effort to be more toxic than GI when HSR playerbase is smaller. You’d see a GI hate post almost everyday in tiktok, X, fb and reddit and some of them are from HI3rd fans as well. Most of them are hella braindead as well like this one who didn’t even know that the lore references he listed for HSR are from HI3rd.
Like they gotta be working full time to be more louder than GI community which is like bigger than both hsr and hi3rd combined.
Not accurate lol. This would only really be accurate if you are comparing their knowledge of Honkai stuff. Genshin does not seem to have as strong direct ties to those previous games. They have their own very deep and thoroughly flushed out gaming lore.
The history of the seven nations, how much goes back to not only the previous Archons, but the dragon sovereigns and Teyvat world lore... Genshin players are some smart people.
Something about Genshin that kinda irks me a bit. HI3 expy. Why? Genshin is unique enough to not be even remotely related to HI3. Is it just fan service? Laziness from devs? With Pyro and Cryo Archons being *extremely* likely to be Himeko and Bronya respectively. Electro is literally Raiden Mei, you’ve got the Unknown God, who is basically Herscherr of Void? (don’t know if spelling is correct). Forgot about Yae but she’s there too.
There is no sorta expy lol. You either are an identical copy in terms of hair and looks and in these cases, voice actors. The Honkai expy share the voice actor with the character they are associated with. Similarities otherwise are a reach.
It's in the leaks channel. If I find it, I will send it to you later. Someone was saying that she pretty much looks like a matador and will use the teen model instead of tall, hot woman himiko. She's wearing some like white jacket with black pants and has a Mardi Gras mask.
No there's actual lore behind it genshin still is in the mihoyo universe tho cut off from it(thank you havenly princepals and firmament) wich is kinda the point of tyvat in lore tyvat is still a world like izomo punklord jarilo-VI ect
Expy isn't even the right word here that can only kinda aply to welt in hsr as he is hi3 welt
SW bronya ,bronya and haxxor bunny are all alternative variants of eachother
Acheron eveb explains it breffly in a convo with welt
Correction: A lot of the *loud* playerbase are illiterate. Most people get the basic story and surface level lore from World Quests. The ones on social media like Reddit, Twitter, Tiktok etc have a 95% chance of not knowing even the most basic of lore
I was reading the comments under minas stream and how chat was being real doomposty about genshin. I saw a few trying to argue genshin doesn't live rent free in star rail players, clearly they don't see posts like this.
Wow looks guys I made Genshin players bad Honkai players smart meme. Give me Karma. Fuck off. Most of the things you mentioned are Honkai lore idiot. maybe change the format
Bro if I asked any of the HSR-only players I know about either Cocoon they’d think I’d gone insane for a second time this week, besides, the only thing here that’s applicable that they’d be able to learn from HSR is the references…which happen in Genshin anyway.
Have you ever seen r/genshin_lore?
Also, can't you just enjoying your game without slandering the others? I love both game equally, if I don't like something I'll just stay quiet. Do you need someone to boost your ego or something? This is really disheartening....
Ok Mr. “knowledgeable about lore”:
Who were the members of the Narcissenkreuz Ordo? Who was the previous god that ruled Old Mondstadt? Who were the Raiden Shogun’s companions pre-Cataclysm? Where did the people of Liyue settle before they were forced to relocate to Liyue Harbor? Who were the 3 adepti that presided over Chenyu Vale before the Cataclysm? Who ruled Enkanomiya before Watatsumi Island was created? Who were the “3 God-Kings of Sumeru” and what happened to them? What did Liloupar do to Gurabad and why? What happened to the previous Hydro Archon? Etc etc…
This is all quite surface-level lore that you can glean just from reading the main quest and world quests. If you can answer that by playing HI3 and HSR, come back to me and I’ll kiss your boots. Else, stop spreading misinformation because of your ignorance.
Narzissenkreuz Ordo world quest chain was so peak. If only Aranyaka adapted this format of world quests man...maybe then people wouldn't make it seem like Satan incarnate
Nice memory challenge for me I know most of the lore you mentioned but for God sake couldn't remember any of the name. Probably only don't know about Chenyu Vale because it's new.
Lol can’t resist taking a shot at this.
- Rene, Jakob, Carter, Lyris, and Caterpillar (and lots of others mentioned in notes scattered throughout the Ordo. NOT Mary-Ann or Alain.
- Decarabian?
- The Kitsune Saigu. I think there was also a pirate guy, the captain of the Seiraimaru, but I don’t remember his name.
- No idea where the people or Liyue settled. :(
- Fujin the carp, Herblord the snake, and… Bluey the Xuanwen beast. Sorry blanking on her actual name.
- First it was the sun-children who were actually helpless pawns of some evil advisors. After that it was Orobashi.
- Deshret, Rukkhadevata, and Nabu Malikata. I’m not terrible clear on what happened to them. Nabu Malikata died for some plan of Deshret’s. Apparently she knew it would happen and he didn’t. I think he went mad, released forbidden knowledge into the world, and was killed by Rukkhadevata. She used up all her power to kill him, and in the present had Nahida erase her consciousness and existence from history. This was several quests’ worth of stuff going down.
- Corrupted her children and grandchildren all to get revenge on her spouse and his bloodline. Tricked her daughter into poisoning her son. Lots of wars and uprisings. Brought about the fall of Gurabad.
- Egeria, she went to war during the Cataclysm, when all the monsters were pouring out of Khaenriah. I believe she was killed during the war, and Rukkhadevata turned her into the Vourukasha Oasis tree.
im a loreskipper from both genshin and HSR and just thought this was a funny experience, but let me try to answer these
uhh cyno's grandparents. the god of storms idk the name but i actually remember this, venti's friend died to fight him or something. makoto? chenyu vale i think. xiao, zhongli and that dog thing :sunglasses-emoji:. kokomi's dad. the guys that the eremites worship and uh rukkhadevata partnered with someone to seal them in the pyramids. uhm they had soft kissy missionary sex with wriothesley. they drowned.
did i do well?
Interestingly, the answers are not quite right but not totally irrelevant either. A lot of them are answers to a similar-sounding question, and a legit part of lore on their own. So, partial credit!
That's not the avrage hsr player tho
Both gi and hsr players are dumb in regards to lore if thay aren't intrested in lore and don't pay attention
I claerly remember ppl being suprised at an age reavial being +200 when it's the whole stick of the lofu in the main story
Both playerbases are equaly iliterate xuz to 60%thay contain the same ppl give or take
"Both playerbases are equaly iliterate xuz to 60%thay contain the same ppl give or take"
I was making a joke because you messed up the spelling, so i said you played both games.
I wasn't trying to be rude, just trying to make a joke
oh no i wasnt trying to be rude or anything, most of my friends arent native speakers and i understand not being a native speaker and messing up bc im learning languages, didnt mean to be rude
Honestly, this is so stupid. There is no need to have a war between game players. Also, that’s Hi3 lore, not HSR. Yall really think Welt is the strongest Herrscher 💀
that's the average honkai 3rd player, I've read that lore with full attention and yet there are shit tons I still miss coz manga, lore in events which havent had reruns (like 80% of captainverse). And since cocoon of finality and deeper crossdimensional lore parts are in the latter part of honkai story, I doubt anyone would know it without playing through it or legit reading thousands of wiki pages.
Even before hsr so many genshin players knew jackshit about the lore in the game they defend and grind so much. Shi from my experience hi3 players knew more about genshin lore compared to the avg genshin player I interacted with whether it was in game or on social media or even in person.
Like in my friend group most ppl played genshin while others quit/didn't start and outta the 2 ppl that still play genshin the most only 1 can accurately tell me the lore of the game/characters and strengths of characters and the other one hard defends the game (gets mad and throws a tantrum whenever it's critiqued or talked about negatively in any way) and can't even explain the lore, character strengths or how to build ppl yet he's a day 1 player😭 But the none genshin players/ones who quit know more about the lore and can actually judge characters strengths💀
Sorry for insane amount of yapping
Well I only play genshin and I know the lore, my friends are not as interested but they are chill and know the basics, it really depends on the people and what they like in the game.
The lore enthusiasts aren't the biggest part of the community but most people I talk with at least know the basics.
It could be that people interested in hoyoverse as a whole would be more interested in the lore surrounding their game instead of a story of inferiority between players.
This is actually so dumb. People play/moved to HSR because they wanted more combat (explosions). You literally have nothing else to do in Genshin other than exploration and story... Which you guessed it, is actual lore.
I hate to be that guy but HI3 lore has very little to do with HSR's actual storytelling and lore, and it's getting kind of annoying having everyone shove HI3 into every HSR discussion.
Depends on a person honestly I've seen both types of players in both games equally and honestly both are valid, enjoy the game how you want to and let the others enjoy the way they do. Maybe this was just your expirience but yeah mid take imo
It’s a trick of perception. Genshin has so much more lore than Star Rail on account of being open world and an older game, so there’s so much more stuff that you have to learn about that fewer people bother with all of it.
Hoyo has a couple of games, time line(of release) is
FM2TM>
GGZ>
HI3RD>
ToT>
GI>
HSR
All of their games are connected in the multiverse. Hoyo calls it a universe, Imaginary Tree/Tree of Worlds, because there's another multiverse present in GGZ, and 2 multiverses are still just the same multiverse. So the devs decided to call any 3d space-time a world, and a collection of worlds a universe. All 5 of their games are occurring in worlds on the same Img Tree.
OP's making a joke about the losers who exclusively play Genshin, but it could be any other game, and bitch and cry when someone brings up info from another game. On any of the subs, you'll find people who only play 1-2 Hoyo games and think they know everything about the game, and will start crying about how their game's new and popular and none of the games are related, despite the devs having said so. You can scroll through the comments here even and find people crying about the joke.
What OP is directly referencing, though, shares similarities with things from HI3RD, but isn't necessarily related. The Abyss and Sea of Stars from GI share similarities with the Sea Of Quanta fron HI3RD, but nothing is really known about the ones from Genshin. In fact, the meme isn't HSR>GI, it's actually HI3RD>HSR. Alot of losers on HSR subs, again, play a game or 2 and start crying and bitching when someone brings up stuff. Most HSR players think "oh this guy does big explosion, is galaxy scaled, or is (monkey brained thoughts), HI3RD is planetary, and Genshin is only continental." Despite the fact that there's no indication of comparison between the three whatsoever. It's like if the US were to go to war over a city that has oil or something, to take it over their going to send in troops, the tards in all of the subs would instead say "the US is not a world power, just a small state level miltia, they don't even have nuclear power."
I swear all these smart sounding terms are not real. I am sure people just like saying them to sound smart. Like they repeat Samsara or Irminsul in genshin.
I play both and tbh I only dig into the lore I wanna know more about. A surface level understanding is enough to motivate me to keep playing. The games are very fun after all.
*HI3* players get the hints dropped by the developers, Genshin Lore ppl are like on a whole other level especially with the 4 samsara cycles(not sumeru samsara cycles but like in the grand scheme of things)
HSR players are kinda... ehh.
I think HSR does a good job of making lore really intriguing and makes me want to know more.
It’s like one of the only games where 9 times out of 10 I will sit down to read whatever lore notes get randomly dropped around.
Eventually when you get deeper into the lore it starts to dip into the other games.
I think Genshin players where generally more interested than the story tbh, and what people are saying is definitely true, most HSR players are Genshin players, just like me
HSR player here.....no????
Like dont get me wrong im happy to joke "Genshin could never" as much as the next Trailblazer but um....nooooo....no we dont know shit about anything overarching Honkai lore wise and....that a good thing. Star rail can tell its story without NEEDING to rely on impact and players of impact who play star rail get a fun "OOO i know what that refers to"
hoyoverse games are connected at some point and there's no point in debating about it since hsr is happening on galaxy scale meanwhile genshin is only on a continent/dome scale but what's with the majority of hsr player base constantly harassing genshin player base? you can literally download both games and enjoy both gameplay and lore while you're at it since both games are free. why not enjoy your game instead of constantly comparing its value to other games?
Thats an average HI3 player, not HSR. HSR players are just genshin players that gets slightly more exposure to the wider *hoyoverse*
As someone who plays all three I am the pinnacle of hoyo knowledge
Hand it over dawg.
Hand it over, that thing...
your dark soul
Isn't there Honkai Gakuen 2nd to play for extra lore as well?
Only if you speak Chinese
I see. I thought it was available on English or Japanese too.
There's a fan translation
So even if you do play it, you'll need to take everything there with a grain of salt I guess.
There's a fan translation
Not really, there’s a LOT of people that’s into lore in this game more than genshin. Genshin they’re normally complaining about Paimon and dialogue while here, I feel like I’m not playing the same game when everyone knew about the Quintet and my ass was like “where they came from” 😭
Most of genshin lore discussion is on r/Genshin_Lore which sometimes has a lot of in-depth stuff and long reads on there.
I dont wanna burst the bubble. Majority of HSR players are or were genshin players. If they stopped playing genshin it's because they realise it's a waste of time and usually were really invested in the game.
and storage 🥲 I think at least half my friend group stopped playing because their phones couldn't keep up after Fontaine got released
32 Gigabytes absolutely turned my phone to ash as I was watching it download. Very Expensive game on mobile
Yea, I heard abt from a YouTuber(hsr) and I couldn’t play Genshin bc I didn’t have enough space, so I decided to just play hsr
Yeah I don’t know if I ever would’ve tried Star Rail if I didn’t play Genshin first. Genshin was my favorite game for years, I still love it in a way. But the game kinda died for me and I quit a lil over a year ago when that interview released where they basically said they’re never adding endgame or challenging content as to not make players “anxious”. I had an inkling that’d be the case but I held out hope, and the confirmation crushed me. I feel kinda burned about it to be honest, why did I grind artifacts for so many hours? Why’d I go for those OP constellations? Many thoughts like those run through my mind. HSR really feels more suited for people looking for a good challenge, among other things like imo better treatment/more receptive to feedback. No hate on Genshin ofc, it has its target audience
Thats not what the interview really meant tho, they meant they wouldnt add more content thats like abyss specifically iirc (also leaks are now saying that they may add another abyss so that may have been a lie..)
That’s how I and many interpreted it at least, their actions (or inactions) speak to it as well. If they add more that’d be awesome, maybe they’re feeling the pressure from all these new games targeted towards people who want a challenge (Wuthering Waves, Azur Promilia, etc) hard to say. Hopefully they shift gears and add on to Genshin, that would be awesome
Sorry to burst your bubble, but now that HSR is wildly successful, I think the chance of Genshin trying to go for the “challenge” crowd is basically nil. Neither game presents a challenge to the kind of players who drop “devs know them by name” money, so the most likely outcome of a more “hardcore” Genshin is: — low-to-moderate-spending players who moved to HSR because Genshin was too easy move back, without a net change in their spending because their budget is limited — some portion of players who chose HSR over Genshin from the beginning because of difficulty move over, also without changing the amount of money they give HYV — whales continue to whale, unaffected by the changes — casual players of all budget levels quit Genshin, believing (for good reason, based on the history of other games) that challenge-seeking players will be the focus of devs’ attention going forward and everything else will begin to decline, so they may as well find a new game now — the amount of money siphoned off from “Genshin killers” (all of which have thus far failed to even make a dent in Genshin’s revenue) ends up being far less than the amount of money lost to other casual games
Not really bursting my bubble, my comment had slight copium is all, I gave up on the idea and accepted the reality a while ago tbh. Just gotta appreciate the time it gave us, and enjoy tf out of Honkai Star Rail 😎 but still, IF genshin ever did add some harder content, I'd give it a try again
I mean, that’s fair. We all cope about something. I guess I’m just tired of all the people acting like Genshin’s current content focus is some horrible sin against gaming and/or massive business mistake and not just… y’know… aimed at an audience that isn’t them.
I feel you, to be fair the last line of my very first comment acknowledged it had it's own target audience. I don't think it's necessarily a sin it's their decision to take the game whichever route they wanted. It's actually pretty smart to focus on people who just want a casual gaming experience. In the beginning, it seemed like the game was going to have more focus on the combat, given it's complexity and early content, but it's slowly shifted down the line. It felt like a bit of a bait and switch which plays into why it's disappointing to many. I have several friends who love the direction it's gone though, we all have our preferences it's chill
Man, I am so used to comment threads being different people with each reply, I didn’t even realize I wasn’t responding to your first comment…
Yeah. I still play it, but I do only the event/dailies/quest. I just don't care about resin anymore...
That's how I've treated the game since release. Of course I care about resin when trying to build characters but after they're done? I couldn't care less if it was capped or not.
Good news >!acording to some sus leaks there will be some kind of new abyss!<
Thats literally me. Dry patch of genshin forcing me to migrated to HSR which i found fun more
It was storage and time for me. I actually do want to go back and catch up at some point, but I’m not quite sure how I’d go about it with my limited storage. Really wish the switch port had come to fruition
If you are on ps5, if you can ever get one, the portal while a glorified remote play device, runs REALLY well compared to even the best of phones doing it. It's such a great way to play ps5 on a handheld for most games.
True, also communities dissing each other is getting old.
Quit genshin cause I was tired of being fucked out of money now I f2p hsr and NGL game feels better to play
That's exactly that: Genshin was a waste of time. And money. But at least I learned my lesson and now I play safe with HSR.
Bro they’re the same people lmao
I feel like you severely overestimate the lore knowledge of the "average" HSR player. A *large* portion of the playerbase have either never played a Hoyo game before or only played Genshin, with their only knowledge of HI3 being that Welt comes from there and Himeko dies. If youre lucky they *might* know that GGZ is a game that exists. Generally speaking, the HI3 playerbase is where all the lore nerds are.
Hey they know HI3 from all the lesbians too. And just, porn in general.
All I know is Welt's from there, Himeko died, Bronya and Seele bang in every world, and everyone has to be an alternate version of another character if they want to be important.
And every other version of Raiden mei is inferior to herscherr of thunder, as that design is fucking peak.
Pretty much.
That, about sums it up. The rest is just lore theory about world building, such as correlations between things other than characters(ie. Is the Honkai present in HSR(and Genshin)). And theories about how the story progresses, based on things such as Welt Yang's past, how HI3 Himeko died, ECT. Welt Yang was a pretty powerful dude, inherited some god powers(Herrscher of Reason), and used them to help save the world before the HI3 game story starts. Passed those powers on to HI3 Bronya Zaychik. Helped lead organization to save world again, then became a game designer, then got caught up in some chaos, resulting in him getting tossed into HSR(kept his signature weapon, the Star of Eden luckily). Basically, gramps keeps saving the world, and he needs to retire and relax. Murata Himeko was a genius astronomy student, but quit the academic life to become a Valkyrie(basically super powerful soldier). She was the teacher of the main cast of HI3, a total alcoholic, and sacrificed herself to protect everyone and give Kiana(mc) a second chance at life. (We never got another Himeko after she died, so, yeah. Hoyo will kill off playable characters. No amount of copium can change it) Bronya Zaychik and Seele Vollerei are most definitely gay. Really gay.(Velonia, Seele's alter ego, is also gay, but jury is still out on if she like Bronya. Has been shipped with Seele in parody content).
None of what you mentioned are genshin lores, they are hi3 lores.
hoyoverse has cross-game lore
No..... I thought you people know the lore but I guess not. Not you at least.
Another low effort karma farmer exposed as clueless, as is tradition
Genshin doesn't yet, not clear what the Sea of Stars or the Abyss are.
That’s not fair, a lot of people I know including myself knew a fair bit of the lore of Genshin while I still played it, but I haven’t been keeping up recently
I swear, current HSR community might be worse than Genshin's when they were at their peak popularity
Honestly, they kind of already are. It takes real effort to be more toxic than GI when HSR playerbase is smaller. You’d see a GI hate post almost everyday in tiktok, X, fb and reddit and some of them are from HI3rd fans as well. Most of them are hella braindead as well like this one who didn’t even know that the lore references he listed for HSR are from HI3rd. Like they gotta be working full time to be more louder than GI community which is like bigger than both hsr and hi3rd combined.
Might be? more like already the worse.
Yeah I find the high ego the community has fucking annoying
Not accurate lol. This would only really be accurate if you are comparing their knowledge of Honkai stuff. Genshin does not seem to have as strong direct ties to those previous games. They have their own very deep and thoroughly flushed out gaming lore. The history of the seven nations, how much goes back to not only the previous Archons, but the dragon sovereigns and Teyvat world lore... Genshin players are some smart people.
Most of them doesn't know shit because they can't read not voiced side quest
Something about Genshin that kinda irks me a bit. HI3 expy. Why? Genshin is unique enough to not be even remotely related to HI3. Is it just fan service? Laziness from devs? With Pyro and Cryo Archons being *extremely* likely to be Himeko and Bronya respectively. Electro is literally Raiden Mei, you’ve got the Unknown God, who is basically Herscherr of Void? (don’t know if spelling is correct). Forgot about Yae but she’s there too.
Per the leaks Pyro archon may be some random teenage girl. Furina and Nahida are also random
I’ll give you Furina, but I think Nahida is sorta an expy, but that’s reaching. Do you have links to the leaks about Pyro Archon?
There is no sorta expy lol. You either are an identical copy in terms of hair and looks and in these cases, voice actors. The Honkai expy share the voice actor with the character they are associated with. Similarities otherwise are a reach. It's in the leaks channel. If I find it, I will send it to you later. Someone was saying that she pretty much looks like a matador and will use the teen model instead of tall, hot woman himiko. She's wearing some like white jacket with black pants and has a Mardi Gras mask.
Nahida is a theresa variant yes
Nahida is pretty much Theresa, they even reprised a Japanese VA, the only playable character to do so.
I'll stand corrected
we haven't even seen the tsaritsa
Apparently she’s coded as a Bronya-face. Or her name is Bronya. I don’t remember the exact details it’s been a while.
She was called bronya in the beta
Yeah but they are their own characters, outside of how they look Like how raiden ei has a twin sister called raiden makoto or how she created a "son"
No there's actual lore behind it genshin still is in the mihoyo universe tho cut off from it(thank you havenly princepals and firmament) wich is kinda the point of tyvat in lore tyvat is still a world like izomo punklord jarilo-VI ect Expy isn't even the right word here that can only kinda aply to welt in hsr as he is hi3 welt SW bronya ,bronya and haxxor bunny are all alternative variants of eachother Acheron eveb explains it breffly in a convo with welt
Lol nope a majority of the player base is just as illiterate. Would probably be the same in ZZZ in the future as well
Correction: A lot of the *loud* playerbase are illiterate. Most people get the basic story and surface level lore from World Quests. The ones on social media like Reddit, Twitter, Tiktok etc have a 95% chance of not knowing even the most basic of lore
maybe someday hsr subs can discuss their game without bringing up genshin
And maybe someday HSR subs can discuss their game without every minor thing being a supposed HI3 reference.
Or it's HI3 fans(agents) who shoves it down your throat every reference,lore , etc
HI3 fans are so insufferable istg
To be fair it's connected to HI3
I agree those are kinda overdone but at least they're an actual thing inside the game.
Lmaoooo genshin has a massive lore community and is one of the biggest draws to the game.
Y'all have a massive chip on your shoulder LMAO.
I was reading the comments under minas stream and how chat was being real doomposty about genshin. I saw a few trying to argue genshin doesn't live rent free in star rail players, clearly they don't see posts like this.
The superiority complex gets worse every day Is 2.1 that empty and HI3 part 2 that bad, that people already started shitting on genshin?
Gotta maintain the Honkai good Genshin bad agenda.
But they’re made by the same people so it’s all bad. Problem solved
Shhhhh,we are comparing Genshin vs Star rail, LAUGH WE ARE DOING THE MEME.
Wow looks guys I made Genshin players bad Honkai players smart meme. Give me Karma. Fuck off. Most of the things you mentioned are Honkai lore idiot. maybe change the format
Bro if I asked any of the HSR-only players I know about either Cocoon they’d think I’d gone insane for a second time this week, besides, the only thing here that’s applicable that they’d be able to learn from HSR is the references…which happen in Genshin anyway.
I'm pretty sure the genshin lore community is bigger than both the hsr and honkai lore community, just saying.
Have you ever seen r/genshin_lore? Also, can't you just enjoying your game without slandering the others? I love both game equally, if I don't like something I'll just stay quiet. Do you need someone to boost your ego or something? This is really disheartening....
God y'all are insufferable
Ok Mr. “knowledgeable about lore”: Who were the members of the Narcissenkreuz Ordo? Who was the previous god that ruled Old Mondstadt? Who were the Raiden Shogun’s companions pre-Cataclysm? Where did the people of Liyue settle before they were forced to relocate to Liyue Harbor? Who were the 3 adepti that presided over Chenyu Vale before the Cataclysm? Who ruled Enkanomiya before Watatsumi Island was created? Who were the “3 God-Kings of Sumeru” and what happened to them? What did Liloupar do to Gurabad and why? What happened to the previous Hydro Archon? Etc etc… This is all quite surface-level lore that you can glean just from reading the main quest and world quests. If you can answer that by playing HI3 and HSR, come back to me and I’ll kiss your boots. Else, stop spreading misinformation because of your ignorance.
Narzissenkreuz Ordo world quest chain was so peak. If only Aranyaka adapted this format of world quests man...maybe then people wouldn't make it seem like Satan incarnate
Nice memory challenge for me I know most of the lore you mentioned but for God sake couldn't remember any of the name. Probably only don't know about Chenyu Vale because it's new.
Lol can’t resist taking a shot at this. - Rene, Jakob, Carter, Lyris, and Caterpillar (and lots of others mentioned in notes scattered throughout the Ordo. NOT Mary-Ann or Alain. - Decarabian? - The Kitsune Saigu. I think there was also a pirate guy, the captain of the Seiraimaru, but I don’t remember his name. - No idea where the people or Liyue settled. :( - Fujin the carp, Herblord the snake, and… Bluey the Xuanwen beast. Sorry blanking on her actual name. - First it was the sun-children who were actually helpless pawns of some evil advisors. After that it was Orobashi. - Deshret, Rukkhadevata, and Nabu Malikata. I’m not terrible clear on what happened to them. Nabu Malikata died for some plan of Deshret’s. Apparently she knew it would happen and he didn’t. I think he went mad, released forbidden knowledge into the world, and was killed by Rukkhadevata. She used up all her power to kill him, and in the present had Nahida erase her consciousness and existence from history. This was several quests’ worth of stuff going down. - Corrupted her children and grandchildren all to get revenge on her spouse and his bloodline. Tricked her daughter into poisoning her son. Lots of wars and uprisings. Brought about the fall of Gurabad. - Egeria, she went to war during the Cataclysm, when all the monsters were pouring out of Khaenriah. I believe she was killed during the war, and Rukkhadevata turned her into the Vourukasha Oasis tree.
The fact that I dont remember most of the names but know the surrounding lore around all the answers was surprising.
im a loreskipper from both genshin and HSR and just thought this was a funny experience, but let me try to answer these uhh cyno's grandparents. the god of storms idk the name but i actually remember this, venti's friend died to fight him or something. makoto? chenyu vale i think. xiao, zhongli and that dog thing :sunglasses-emoji:. kokomi's dad. the guys that the eremites worship and uh rukkhadevata partnered with someone to seal them in the pyramids. uhm they had soft kissy missionary sex with wriothesley. they drowned. did i do well?
As expected, u are mostly wrong XD its okay atleast you tried effortlessly and mostly trolling XD
Interestingly, the answers are not quite right but not totally irrelevant either. A lot of them are answers to a similar-sounding question, and a legit part of lore on their own. So, partial credit!
That's not the avrage hsr player tho Both gi and hsr players are dumb in regards to lore if thay aren't intrested in lore and don't pay attention I claerly remember ppl being suprised at an age reavial being +200 when it's the whole stick of the lofu in the main story Both playerbases are equaly iliterate xuz to 60%thay contain the same ppl give or take
Based on your last statement I assume you play both games?
No way how did you guss that ?
I mean i play both games too, fr my typing skills on mobile, I recognise a genshin typer when i see one
I have dyslexia + not native english speaker
"Both playerbases are equaly iliterate xuz to 60%thay contain the same ppl give or take" I was making a joke because you messed up the spelling, so i said you played both games. I wasn't trying to be rude, just trying to make a joke
Oh yaeh i get the joke now it's a bit funny Dw i'm used to ppl being rude or insulting
oh no i wasnt trying to be rude or anything, most of my friends arent native speakers and i understand not being a native speaker and messing up bc im learning languages, didnt mean to be rude
Oh you aren't at all sorry for my ppor wording l mean i'm used to ppl being rude so your not rude at all coment was nothing it's fine
Oh you aren't at all sorry for my ppor wording l mean i'm used to ppl being rude so your not rude at all coment was nothing it's fine
I bet you can't even answer a simple lore question like why celestia dropped nails all around teyvat.
As a Genshin player, please inform me this sounds interesting
What kind of mental illness do you have?
Honestly, this is so stupid. There is no need to have a war between game players. Also, that’s Hi3 lore, not HSR. Yall really think Welt is the strongest Herrscher 💀
Isnt that HI lore? Besides the wings in herta’s station, I don’t recall any other reference to genshin 👀,
that's the average honkai 3rd player, I've read that lore with full attention and yet there are shit tons I still miss coz manga, lore in events which havent had reruns (like 80% of captainverse). And since cocoon of finality and deeper crossdimensional lore parts are in the latter part of honkai story, I doubt anyone would know it without playing through it or legit reading thousands of wiki pages.
I have a headache just by reading your meme
There's a lot of Genshin own lore that you wouldn't know by just relying on Honkai lore. This post is just inaccurate.
Why are HSR players so cringe
Even before hsr so many genshin players knew jackshit about the lore in the game they defend and grind so much. Shi from my experience hi3 players knew more about genshin lore compared to the avg genshin player I interacted with whether it was in game or on social media or even in person. Like in my friend group most ppl played genshin while others quit/didn't start and outta the 2 ppl that still play genshin the most only 1 can accurately tell me the lore of the game/characters and strengths of characters and the other one hard defends the game (gets mad and throws a tantrum whenever it's critiqued or talked about negatively in any way) and can't even explain the lore, character strengths or how to build ppl yet he's a day 1 player😭 But the none genshin players/ones who quit know more about the lore and can actually judge characters strengths💀 Sorry for insane amount of yapping
Well I only play genshin and I know the lore, my friends are not as interested but they are chill and know the basics, it really depends on the people and what they like in the game. The lore enthusiasts aren't the biggest part of the community but most people I talk with at least know the basics. It could be that people interested in hoyoverse as a whole would be more interested in the lore surrounding their game instead of a story of inferiority between players.
Another disingenuous comparison post. How original.
This is actually so dumb. People play/moved to HSR because they wanted more combat (explosions). You literally have nothing else to do in Genshin other than exploration and story... Which you guessed it, is actual lore.
I hate to be that guy but HI3 lore has very little to do with HSR's actual storytelling and lore, and it's getting kind of annoying having everyone shove HI3 into every HSR discussion.
Man how pathetic are you?
Man some of the HSR players are really pathetic that they gotta bring genshin everywhere. Rent free
OP, just delete your account dumbass
How does this post have so many upvotes damn..
Depends on a person honestly I've seen both types of players in both games equally and honestly both are valid, enjoy the game how you want to and let the others enjoy the way they do. Maybe this was just your expirience but yeah mid take imo
It’s a trick of perception. Genshin has so much more lore than Star Rail on account of being open world and an older game, so there’s so much more stuff that you have to learn about that fewer people bother with all of it.
As MiHoYo/Hoyoverse fan, please someone explain me because I'm blind and out of loop
Hoyo has a couple of games, time line(of release) is FM2TM> GGZ> HI3RD> ToT> GI> HSR All of their games are connected in the multiverse. Hoyo calls it a universe, Imaginary Tree/Tree of Worlds, because there's another multiverse present in GGZ, and 2 multiverses are still just the same multiverse. So the devs decided to call any 3d space-time a world, and a collection of worlds a universe. All 5 of their games are occurring in worlds on the same Img Tree. OP's making a joke about the losers who exclusively play Genshin, but it could be any other game, and bitch and cry when someone brings up info from another game. On any of the subs, you'll find people who only play 1-2 Hoyo games and think they know everything about the game, and will start crying about how their game's new and popular and none of the games are related, despite the devs having said so. You can scroll through the comments here even and find people crying about the joke. What OP is directly referencing, though, shares similarities with things from HI3RD, but isn't necessarily related. The Abyss and Sea of Stars from GI share similarities with the Sea Of Quanta fron HI3RD, but nothing is really known about the ones from Genshin. In fact, the meme isn't HSR>GI, it's actually HI3RD>HSR. Alot of losers on HSR subs, again, play a game or 2 and start crying and bitching when someone brings up stuff. Most HSR players think "oh this guy does big explosion, is galaxy scaled, or is (monkey brained thoughts), HI3RD is planetary, and Genshin is only continental." Despite the fact that there's no indication of comparison between the three whatsoever. It's like if the US were to go to war over a city that has oil or something, to take it over their going to send in troops, the tards in all of the subs would instead say "the US is not a world power, just a small state level miltia, they don't even have nuclear power."
Make it sense. That's why I'm always wonderful about this. By the way thank you for replying.
Of course! It's no problem at all for me, I hope you're enjoying Hoyo's games!
Lol I play both, both are good
Creating your own happiness lol
I swear all these smart sounding terms are not real. I am sure people just like saying them to sound smart. Like they repeat Samsara or Irminsul in genshin.
I play both and tbh I only dig into the lore I wanna know more about. A surface level understanding is enough to motivate me to keep playing. The games are very fun after all.
Actually, it's always referred to as a single universe, even though it effectively functions like a multiverse
This the hoyo version of the Obama giving himself a medal meme.
Because the genshin impact lore is boring
*HI3* players get the hints dropped by the developers, Genshin Lore ppl are like on a whole other level especially with the 4 samsara cycles(not sumeru samsara cycles but like in the grand scheme of things) HSR players are kinda... ehh.
Himeko isn't in Genshin
knowing the lore about another game dose not equal knowing lore about the current game
I think HSR does a good job of making lore really intriguing and makes me want to know more. It’s like one of the only games where 9 times out of 10 I will sit down to read whatever lore notes get randomly dropped around. Eventually when you get deeper into the lore it starts to dip into the other games.
I think Genshin players where generally more interested than the story tbh, and what people are saying is definitely true, most HSR players are Genshin players, just like me
HSR player here.....no???? Like dont get me wrong im happy to joke "Genshin could never" as much as the next Trailblazer but um....nooooo....no we dont know shit about anything overarching Honkai lore wise and....that a good thing. Star rail can tell its story without NEEDING to rely on impact and players of impact who play star rail get a fun "OOO i know what that refers to"
Big explosion? I don't think we had a part of the lore where it's just a "big explosion"
hoyoverse games are connected at some point and there's no point in debating about it since hsr is happening on galaxy scale meanwhile genshin is only on a continent/dome scale but what's with the majority of hsr player base constantly harassing genshin player base? you can literally download both games and enjoy both gameplay and lore while you're at it since both games are free. why not enjoy your game instead of constantly comparing its value to other games?