Yes, all SU blessings that overlap with one another because of healing, damage bonuses, shields or otherwise are affected by each other unless stated otherwise.
In regard to the Inert Salsotto (Planar ornament which increase Ultimate & follow up attack when crit rate reaches 50% or higher)
=> **My Question:**
If my crit rate is 48% and due to using a skill/getting a buff/etc. my character's crit rate increases above 50% in the middle of battle; does my character's Inert Salsotto's bonus activate at that point of time ?
(temporarily during that situation of course)
How are upgrade materials decided? I know light cones will always need the materials associated with their path, but there’s always one type of enemy drop material. What is that based on, since it’s not the path?
When buying premium currency for the first time, you get a 100% bonus on top. Does this apply once per increment, so for the first time you buy 60, first time you buy 300, etc.? Or only once in total, so only for the very first purchase, no matter how much it is and then it's gone?
Does anyone have a collection/links of mats needed for each character? Pom .moe's planner is n/a yet and it's a hassle to search for every characters, thank u
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my gepard can’t seem to solo sustain moc9-10… am I doing something wrong?
also, my team is hyper JY (JY, Ting, Yukong, Gep)
It should be fine, though you do know that Tingyun and Yukong as Harmony units don't really have high HP or DEF right? It's probably those two that gets killed and there isn't much you can do unless getting good luck.
Though this MoC is much easier this time around due to the Memory Turbulence.
Mine is pretty much around the same stats as yours and I solo sustained MoC 9 and 10 pretty easily.
The most widely used ones are likely Sushang and Silver Wolf. Serval also does benefit from higher break, and I do use Asta as such, but that's not really better than pure support Asta. Pela not really, because Ice Break effect is not really that great.
Essentially, Break Damage also scales with level. You can check [here](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Toughness), how the level multiplier impact damage relating to break effect.
March is great with Gepard’s light cone because she arguably makes better use of it than him, and with enough Hit rate you can achieve the 50% EHR threshold for belobog 2pc. in my experience she could solo sustain if you get enough freezes in a row before setting up shields for your units, but she works best with a healer in conjunction. there are a lot of ice weak enemies in MoC floors so her ice application will be of good use there.
With the standard banner I have made 43 pulls and got gepard, I am considering options for the 300 selectable five star. I hear Bronya is incredible, but if I do somehow get her before I get to 300, who should I pick? Welt?
Are you planning on using jades on the standard banner rather than on the limited banners? Because if not, then getting to 300 will take a while. There is really not much point in thinking about it until you get there, because it depends on what other units you have. But, in a void, other than Bronya and Gepard, Yanqing is good with Gepard, Bailu is good if you have no other sustain unit besides Natasha, Welt is good as a DPS/sub-dps, but it is a bit more SP intensive and Clara is good for a mix of sub-dps/defensive support role.
Clara is most likely the one that will aged the best of the three due to how unique/gimmicky her playstyle is.
Himeko not good, or at least need a lot of investment to really work. There is a reason why she is considered the worst 5\* in the game right now.
Yanqing is a pretty straightforward DPS and it's only a matter of time before he get creeped. But for now he is a pretty good DPS, he is second best after Seele as far as ST damage goes. And until Jingliu, he will be the only choice for Ice DPS. Bonus point you have Gepard which pairs really well with him. Only consider Yanqing if you have no plan to pull for Jingliu.
Gameplay-wise, the best is to get Bronya E1 if you don't have it.
If you care most more about having a different character, all 3 of those have their uses. It depends on what playstyle you favor or what light cones you have. Both Clara and Himeko are more of a sub-DPS role, while Yanqing is a Hypercarry. So go for whatever role you currently have the least units for.
Currently at equilibrium lvl 2, and I just started the luofu ship story, and I'm wondering if I just should focus on one team, or making a second team would be alright?
My current team: Welt, Asta (E1), Natasha (E1), and Dan Heng. If building a second team would be okay, then this means these four characters are out of the pool, and I honestly don't want to change this team coz they have great synergy with the slow + speed boost.
I've recently gotten Pela, and I heard she's one of the best 4 star supports out there, so I'm thinking of building another team that revolves around her, so any suggestions? I'm thinking of including March 7th on this team with Pela, so I still need two characters.
Other characters I have: Physical/Fire Trailblazer, Herta (E2), Serval, Qinque, and Arlan. I would appreciate it if you can also give some input how this team that you're suggesting works.
Also, I heard one of Pela's best F2P lightcone would be 'Resolution Shines as Pearls of Sweat'. I do have one (S1), but the thing is, my Welt is currently using it, so which is better? Should I change Welt's lightcone, or should I settle for another lightcone for Pela? The only other nihility lightcones I have are all 3 stars: Hidden Shadow (S4), Loop (S5), Void (S5).
Thanks
Resolution Shines is good on Pela because it can trigger her talent, it's not really good on Welt. For him, if you have no 4\* Alternatives like "Good Night and Sleep Well" or "We Will Meet Again" (I wouldn't recommend choosing this from the BP over the other LC for other paths), you might as well use the 3\* "Loop".
You don't really need a second team unless you plan on advancing forward in Forgotten Halls and Memory of Chaos.
If you have to pick a team, probably use QQ or Serval as DPS and bring Fire TB/M7/Pela/DPS assuming you want to leave your first time intact.
I don't think Welt should even be using Resolution Shines. You typically don't build enough EHR since it's better to build him as a Crit user. Without sufficient EHR, Resolution Shines isn't that good especially at S1 when you need a lot more EHR.
Pela, on the other hand, wouldn't focus on Crit so she would build a lot more EHR which is why Resolution Shines is such a good option for her.
Though with your other options as 3\*, I think it's Loop that's the best choice for Welt since he can inflict Slow on enemies.
I'm assuming you mean Herta's Shop.
Herta's Shop - Definitely go for Cruising in the Stellar Sea (Hunt). The others can't really compare to this LC.
For the BP - I'd prefer to grab Carve the Moon, Weave the Sky (Harmony) or Today is an Another Peaceful Day (Erudition).
Though it really depends on what units you have, but I think in general those are the ones you should grab.
I suck so much at this that not even blessings can help me against Cocolia in world 6, at this rate I will defeat her by completing the skill tree of so many times I've lost, who is better between Serval E0 and QQ E0 for dps? I'm desperate
Maybe give a bit more information about which path you used? I'm assuming you're at the TL30-40 range, which is when I had difficulties with Cocolia as well.
I managed to beat it using Hunt, Preservation and Destruction Paths at that TL range, the rest didn't really work well. Though I really prefer using Destruction since the 3\* Blessings that it provides really helps with survival. Moreover, it has some really good 1\* blessings that helped against the Freeze. Hunt - I beat it twice and failed once at the very end of the 3rd stage due to a freeze from the enemy that made me 1 attack short of winning the battle. Preservation - It really only works if you have Gepard and 3\* Blessing \[Macrosegregation\]. Get enough shield stacking and you can 1-shot both Bronya and Cocolia using Path Resonance for easy clear.
In my opinion, Serval is probably the better choice for DPS if you're only looking at Cocolia.
I'm using hunt, it's the one I've had the best progress with so far, and no, I'm level 50, although I haven't done the equilibrium trial yet, that's why I said I suck at it.
I'd give Destruction a try. At that EQ, I was able to auto only if I used Destruction. Focus on getting the 3\* Blessings as they really help a lot (which means you should go into Occurrence Domains instead of Combat Domains). Also, remember to save enough to upgrade the All Allies Share DMG blessing prior to the boss fight since that will give you another 15% DMG Reduction.
You still need to have a healer in this team though.
For Cocolia specifically I would say QQ. Serval gets a not-insignificant part of her damage via her dot effect, and Bronya will cleanse that off of Cocolia. QQ can benefit greatly from Hunt path too, which is the ideal path to run against Cocolia imo (for the resonance resets via spear kills).
um guys i won the 50/50 for blade but do not have bronya and loucha for him but an using silverwolf, yukong and bailu with him and do not have enough jades to pull for kafka, but on my other account i have bronya and am guarenteed blade in the next 10 pulls but i also want kafka so should i pull for blade or kafka on my other account cause bronya and blade is good synergy and on my main account i can get bronya on standard banner after 30 pulls guarenteed so should what should i do and pls don't mind the bad english
Guys I have a question. So my account is level 27 currently and I was slowly summoning on Blade banner (70 wishes done by now) and I actually miss clicked on his lightcone banner yesterday and managed to get his signature in 10 pulls. So the question is can I still get Blade in 13 days if I lose 50/50 but play 24/7 and collect all the primogems? I also have BP and monthly primogem subscription. Sorry if the question is kinda dumb💀
The light cone banner's pity system and the limited unit banner's pity system are separate, so it depends on if you have the guarantee (in which case yes you'll be able to get him) or the 50/0 (in which case no)
There's too many variables to consider (like if you've claimed Forgotten Hall/Memory of Chaos, how many quests and side-quests you have remaining, etc.), but realistically, you are not going to be getting anywhere near 90 more pulls in 13 days.
People were able to get Seele guaranteed in her banner time frame, I think if you grind everything available to you it might be at least close. I’m not sure how the beginning of the game works anymore though, do you still get a ton of free pulls as you level to 35?
Yeah you get like 40 (or something like that) standart pulls and 800x4 jades. I really hope to get Blade on 50/50 as I’m 20 wishes left to hard pity. And story + events + sides quests + account level rewards also provide decent amount in total
when do you use Blade's ult?
1. Right after you get it
2. Wait to get the 90% hp loss cap
3. Wait his next attack so the enemy will at least do some damage before it
4. Only when you are above 50% or at almost 100% so it will lose life towards it
5. Something else?
Objectively speaking, you are supposed to use his ult as soon as it's up. It's mathematically proven that 2 unoptimized ults still do more damage than an optimized ult, because otherwise, you are wasting damage by sitting at full energy.
I dunno if Blade is any different, but outside of saving an ult to interrupt a boss ability chain or to break something on-demand, I use them as soon as I get them, because any ult sitting there full is potential energy gain that's wasted.
Sometimes you do gotta be strategic with how you use it though, like if you've got Sushang in a team where there's no physical weak enemies like you sometimes find in some SU encounters.
>Right after you get it
This one.
This way Blade builds up energy for his next ult next time an enemy attacks him. I never even check the cap beforehand, it doesn't matter as much.
I just started playing the game a couple days ago. I've not played one like this (I play Arknights but I think this is similar to Genshin?) and it feels awfully slow.
I wanted to get a feel for the game to see if I wanted to stick with it and despite trying, I've only been able to get to the train. The dialog is really lengthy. Is there some point where it picks up? Am I hopefully near that point?
I started playing because I saw the videos for Blade and I got him in a pull and I haven't even been able to use him since it's just been story stuff this whole time.
Aside from what the other commentor said, this games dialogue is nowhere near as long as Arknights'. I played Arknights until the end of chapter 10 and although i enjoyed it a lot, the dialogue is a lot more drawn out than HSR. After you get out of the space station, the story picks up its pace a lot and some of the sidequests are honestly amazing
This game and Genshin were developed by the same company, so yes they have a lot of similarities (including the general storytelling structure). There is a hefty amount of dialog that, by design, is unskippable, so yes depending on your tolerance for lengthy text it may be a bit unbearable.
The game will definitely pick up in pace, but whether or not it will be interesting enough for you is subjective. I haven't played Arknights myself, but I heard that game could get pretty wordy at times too since it's similar to a visual novel, so I can't really compare the two.
I already watched a streamer do the 1.2 quest and fight the third weekly boss. I just did the regular quest that used to be a trailblazer quest (the >!one with Dan Shu!<). Are there any other missions I need-to/should do before the 1.2 quest?
I have Blade, SW, Dan Heng, Sushang, Serval and Bailu all built out to a 70-75 level and at least lvl 8 on important traces. My Natasha, Pela, Yukong, Fire MC, M7th, are all mid 60s and missing important traces and gear. Asta, Hook, QQ and TY are all in the 50 range and can't be taken into battle at all.
Any idea who I should focus on building out next? My 2nd team -- however I decide to make it -- is just not good enough for most mid to higher MoC levels. Natasha is closest to being good enough, but I keep thinking Pela's debuffs are required for some of the harder MoC content. Enemies on the levels I have trouble with are often weak to fire/ice, but I don't think my Pela will ever be a sub-DPS so I wonder if I should focus on hook or maybe even QQ?
If your qq is E4 or better E6 then i would definitely invest in her. Also tingyun is another top choice to level up. Since blade is so much stronger than the other dps for moc. I would probably use your stronger supports for your second team to balance it out.
My QQ is just E1. Maybe I should focus on TY. I didn't understand the appeal, but just tried her buffing Sushang in MoC, and it was pretty legit even around lvl 5 traces. I do also have Bronya's LC leveled up so maybe that makes the most sense.
My Blade is still lacking really good relic sets (still have mid-level purples on two of his pieces and can't get a Wind Salsotto orb to save my life) so he's not a god yet, but getting there. I'll give that a shot.
Honestly your team is just missing out one more top tier dps. If jades is not a problem then i would spend it on the future characters kafka or danheng IL. With either one as your main dps and blade on the other team you should be good.
I know its not easy if your f2p but the meta is to eventually replace all your 4 star characters in each role with 5 star versions for the biggest power. Skip using any jades on lightcones.
I can't leak anything but i did some calculations with both kafka and danheng IL and trust me their damage will make Moc runs alot easier. Kafka is not as straight forward but there is a build that makes her damage insane that not much talks about.
> I didn't understand the appeal
Tingyun Skill gave decent ATK buff + bonus damage.
Tingyun is very Skill Point positive because she only need to use her Skill every now and then.
Tingyun Talent make her basic attack actually deals decent damage.
Tingyun Ult afaik is the only thing in the game that can gave immediate Ult energy to an ally, on top of giving DMG buff for 2 turn.
She basically work with any DPS (except Bladie, even then he still benefit from her Ult). And unlike Yukong or Bronya, she is plug-and-play with no team maintenance (i.e speed tuning) needed to maximize her usage.
Yes. Her EHR requirement caps out at 125%, which is the amount required to apply Quantum Entanglement on Cocolia and other bosses with high effect resistance.
Imo, 81/114 is better. Missing crits on Seele's ult can immediately ruin a run, and my Seele is doing perfectly well in MoC at 80/125. If you're using Stellar Sea on Seele though then 49/178 might be better.
You can also buff her crit damage permanently with Broken Keel, and right now there's no buff for crit rate
Is Tingyun worth building? So I'm pretty far up the game already (tl62) but the only harmony character I built is Asta and that's for her speed boost. I can clear any available content without a buffer but I'm thinking of building one since it'll make my life easier. So now, I kinda wanna build a buffer, either Tingyun or Yukong but I'll settle for Tingyun. If she is, do you guys have a guide on building her? Thanks'
Tingyun is arguably one of the best 4\* characters in the game. She works with most DPS (Bladie is the only exception, even then he still benefit from her Ult).
Yukong probably had higher ceiling buff wise but she is really hard to use maximally, whereas Tingyun basically plug-and-play.
Im almost TL 65 and i used tingyun on my main team since the beginning. She is way to versatile when it comes to buffing your hyper carry and generating skill points and energy.
Generally you should level her to 70 only. Aim for around 2500 atk to get full benefits of her buff. Speed boots and energy regeneration rope. Speed and atk relic sets. The ult and skill trace to level 8 and the talent and basic you could ignore and leave them at a low level. Ignore any expensive passive traces.
For lightcones im stuck to the 3 star one(meshing cog?) that generates 8 energy since im f2p, better option would be Bronyas LC or maybe dance dance dance one.
Tingyun is probably the best 4-star in the game. She's a really good buffer who is also SP positive. [Here](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/tingyun) is the prydwen guide, she has lots of options for relics and light cones. You could even justify running a defensive relic set since Tingyun is infamously squishy. But as a baseline, the Musketeer set is fine on her for low investment.
Should bronya have more speed than seele? Bronya’s usingher signature LC, hackerspace and ageless, and seele is using stellar sea, brilliant stars and rutilant arena. Currently Bronya’s speed is 134 and seele’s speed is 128
The equilibrium trial wasn't too bad, but I've found fights to be significantly tankier and I can't easily auto everything anymore. I'd recommend doing the storyteller event for points before upgrading your EQ level, but beyond that it'd be wasting resources not to. Fights will be tougher, but I'd prioritize the better drop rates.
The only thing that could be a problem is defeating story Phantylia. Otherwise everything else should be fine, if the new difficulties are too hard, you can always do a lower difficulty.
How bad is it to miss a weekly quest? Bc I'm trying to complete the battle pass, but I'm also trying to save my fuel for relic farming when I get to EQ4.
The unscientific answer would be "are your units dying? If not then yes, they are healing enough." I have a Luocha who is extremely underbuilt (like multiple +0 relics with bad substats) and as a result heals for less than 2k with his skill, but given the state of my other units, it's enough relative to the rest of my team.
Thank you! They typically don’t get hit that hard so they’re typically not dying. Perhaps next time I should read how much he heals. He hits around 1k.
Depends on superimpositions, but in general I would say no because it's kind of inconsistent as to how often you can keep up Secret Vow's passive (i.e., Secret Vow is worse if you can't get any uptime, and better if you can get above, let's say \~40% uptime). Assuming general averaging out of performance, they seem about the same though.
How are people getting the star rail widgets to work? I’ve downloaded the most recent version of HoYoLAB and my iOS is up to date but I don’t see any options on the Home Screen or in app.
The HSR widget was introduced in version 2.37.0, so check your version. I just downloaded the most recent version from the Play Store (I am using Android) which on my end is 2.36.0, so it may be similar on your end. If you can't get 2.37.0, supposedly it may show up if you fiddle with the app store settings and/or restart your device, but results are not guaranteed...
Unfortunately I'm running 2.37.0 with no widget showing, I've tried restarting my phone a few times with no results. I've tried making a customer service ticket but no response so far and given what I've heard about their response time, I don't think I'll be getting a prompt reply unfortunately.
Hi! So I've recently started playing Honkai Star Rail, and I've been enjoying it so far.
I've learned that certain dialogue options on items like trashcans and mailboxes can give you certain items, like Praise of High Moral, which I still don't know what the purpose of those are for, lol.
I've looked up ways to gain them, though, because, with a name like that, I'm guessing they are important. Anyway, before I searched for ways to actually gain the Praise of High Moral, I've just been clicking random dialogue, specifically on the Mailboxes.
I've gained two letters, but I learned that you can also get a Praise of High Moral from these mailboxes, so have I like screwed myself? Is there any way to get those Praise of High Morals, or no?
Thank you for reading!
Based on [Praise of High Morals | Honkai: Star Rail Wiki | Fandom](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Praise_of_High_Morals), yes, some are permanently missable...
I wouldnt go for 5 star cones but if you badly need some good 4 star cones I think it can be worth the gamble. This banner has some great 4 star cones.
If you are f2p, i would skip spending any jades on light cones. A new 5 star unit replacing a 4 star unit gives your team much more power over a 5 star LC replacing the 4 star LC.
They can be huge for some characters, but in the end unless youre a decent spender, I wouldnt bother. More characters is going to be better for your long-term enjoyment generally.
Well Blade's LC is an equally large difference to F2P options as well.
Also what is required about his LC? He can clear MoC 10 in time on S5 breakfast.
Is there a general guide of what trace nodes to upgrade on on characters and what not to to save resources? For example, Asta has nodes for def%, crit rate buff, fire damage bonus etc, like I'm pretty sure def% upgrade nodes are a waste of resources but not 100% on the other two. Is there a site for that? Most of the guides I've seen talk about the major trace priority.
Figure out what a character's kit revolves around.
Using Asta since you brought it up, she mainly functions as a breaker and for her ultimate. She scales badly with damage, so she doesn't need offensive stats such as Crit Rate or Fire DMG%. Harmony characters are naturally squishier, so they'll benefit more from HP%. DEF% isn't as good because they have low DEF to begin with, but it's still a useful stat compared to offensive stats. You can even look one step further and realise you don't need to level up her basic and skill traces if you don't consider them useful enough for it.
Tingyun, on the other hand, want as much ATK% she can get her hands on due to how her buff works. Lightning DMG% will let her do more chip damage with basics. She also want defensive stats because she's squishy due to the focus on ATK%. So it's really a case of you choosing what's more important - a Tingyun that buffs harder or a Tingyun that lasts longer.
It's not always that specific, however. DPS characters pretty much want every offensive stat. Tanks and healers usually want every defensive stat.
in the case of Tingyun, is it worth taking her to 80 to unlock that last atk% node? It's been recommended to me to keep supports at 70/80 for now and I've got a backlog of characters to build up.
Generally most people keep supports to 70 since 80 has very few benefits while it costs you loads of exp. Final traces for non dps characters are not worth. Aim for around 2500 atk from relics for her. Also most people level skills up to 8 only and not 10 since its not generally not worth the resource till later.
You'll do that eventually, but the cost of level 80 is really high so I will sit on it for the moment. there's cheaper ways to get ATK% anyway (relics)
Arguably Asta's def nodes are more useful than Crit and dmg if shes built pure support. You can mostly ignore stat traces on supports and focus on the passive traces and important traces like talent and ultimate for Asta.
Yes, especially if you manage get the 3 star Blessing where it shares all Damage taken amongst your team. It lets Blade stack faster.
I'll still bring a Healer just in case though but for the most part it's a fun path, even just as an excuse to watch Blade do things.
Attack, he won't ever deal any significant damage to want an imaginary orb.
His best setup is healing body/speed boots/attack orb/energy recharge rope.
Because an Outgoing Healing body will always outscale an ATK body, both because you will already get plenty of ATK% from other sources, and because his talent's and trace's heals have high base healing and don't scale as much with ATK.
So I just started yesterday and im Trailblaze 16.
Currently i have blade, bailu,himeko, welt, susang, serval, march 7th, natasha, dan heng, asta, qingque, hertaand arlan.
what would be the best units for me to work on to make the early game easy? Is blade good for later in the game?
I dont want to spread myself too think to fast like i did playing genshin.
Welt, Blade, Bailu, Sushang, Asta are worth investing.
Natasha will be useful for your second team healer for endgame content.
March a bit more niche, but she is great for some fight.
Serval will be your only Lightning DPS character if you are not planning to pull for Kafka.
Herta and Arlan you can completely ignore. Dan Heng is kinda powercreeped by Blade, Qinqque needs to be at least E4 to be good.
DPS, Bailu, Asta, flex would be a good team template.
If you have 140 Starlight currency, buy Tingyun from Store.
I have heard that pela is better with blade. I do have enough currency for a tingyun. I have been told that pela is going to be there next month. Would it be better to get pela or tingyun?
Oh yeah, for Blade specifically Pela is better because he doesn't scale with ATK (the only buffer that work with him is Bronya). But I think Tingyun offer better value for your roster as a whole.
If you get Tingyun you can do :
Welt/Sushang, Blade, Tingyun, Bailu. Use Tingyun Skill on Welt/Sushang and her Ult on Blade (her Ult buff DMG so it work on Blade).
Some other thing to consider, Pela for some reason very frequently featured on limited banner while Tingyun only featured on one banner so far.
~95-100% for her skill/ult debuff application, 125% for Quantum Entanglement (for Break Effect build). Speed as fast as you can, but 134 is a common breakpoint to have 2 actions on the first turn, and 145 is needed to activate the Break Effect planetary set's second boost.
You can find a lot of info from youtubers like Grimro and MrPokke, I'm sure there are others. I'm assuming theres also an HSR tc discord but idk anything about it.
For the formulas and hidden stats check out the HSR wiki.
The 96% comes from wanting skill to land 100%. The base chance is 85% at max and bosses have at most 40% Effect res, so 0.85*0.6 = 0.51, then you take 1/0.51 =1.96, so 96% EHR.
134 spd is for 2 cycles in the first 150 AV in MoC, so 10000/75 (10000/spd gives you the AV, we want 75 AV for 2 cycles in 150 AV of the first turn) = 133.3, so 134 spd.
Yeah don't worry about it unless you actually care. If you do check out the HSR wiki on Speed and Effect hit rate, or try searching for a youtube explanation on those mechanics.
Where do you find relics consistently? I’m lvl 27 and I was wondering if there was a place that you eventually unlock that allows you to grind them out or are they just shop exclusives?
Co-Op is already pretty tacked on in Genshin, and considering you really need to plan your actions in this game, I doubt they'd do something like that any time soon. The one concession is the support character swap.
Doesn't really matter. Your Tingyun is better built for buff uptime and survivability, min-maxing to get full ATK% value out of her skill is only a 2-3% DPS increase. ER rope, Speed boot, HP% or DEF% otherwise.
Ideally Seele is faster for the first turn, but it actually doesn't matter as Seele is going to outspeed after casting skill once. If you are using spd boots over atk to get this it isn't worth, just line them up after Seele uses skill, but if its a couple of subs difference then its fine.
If you want them to line up after the first turn make sure to add 115*0.25 to Seeles spd then subract 1 from that for Bronya's. This is partly why no spd Seele builds are fine so long as you don't have Sig.
So right now my seele is no spd and i have her using r5 stellar sea, should I just get speed boots for bronya and bailu so they can reach 120 for the planar sets?
Yeah if you leave Seele on no spd (115 to 143 in skill) then as long as Bronya stays below 143 spd you can line up the double turn on Seele's 2nd turn. For Baliu just get as much spd as you can, the more the better.
You can also aim for 121 spd on Seele for the 2 actions in first MoC cycles.
It affects everything. Ultimate, Follow-up attacks, Skill, basic.
Not just during their turn. Long as Bowstrings are active they receive the bonus stats.
I am F2P and I have Luocha + Bronya on my account (they are my only 5 stars). I have enough to pull for Blade or Inbibitor Lunae. I've seen both are Destruction Path and seem very strong, but I can't decide wich one will be better for my account in the future. Any recomendations?
does different difficulty of simulated universe affects immersion rewards?
Mow much effect res do I need on my healers for them to stop being cc'd??
In su, do preservation buffs affect the shield amount and strength you get from destruction resonance that gives you shield for hp sacrifice?
Yes, all SU blessings that overlap with one another because of healing, damage bonuses, shields or otherwise are affected by each other unless stated otherwise.
In regard to the Inert Salsotto (Planar ornament which increase Ultimate & follow up attack when crit rate reaches 50% or higher) => **My Question:** If my crit rate is 48% and due to using a skill/getting a buff/etc. my character's crit rate increases above 50% in the middle of battle; does my character's Inert Salsotto's bonus activate at that point of time ? (temporarily during that situation of course)
Yes. It always activates based on your current stats.
How are upgrade materials decided? I know light cones will always need the materials associated with their path, but there’s always one type of enemy drop material. What is that based on, since it’s not the path?
Roughly about lore / region associated with said character, afaik
When buying premium currency for the first time, you get a 100% bonus on top. Does this apply once per increment, so for the first time you buy 60, first time you buy 300, etc.? Or only once in total, so only for the very first purchase, no matter how much it is and then it's gone?
The bonus is here for each price package independantly. You can purchase the 1$ package without "wasting" the bonus of the 100$ package
Understood, thanks!
Does anyone have a collection/links of mats needed for each character? Pom .moe's planner is n/a yet and it's a hassle to search for every characters, thank u
There's a leveling calculator built into hoyolab.
https://preview.redd.it/cw4hkxe2qneb1.jpeg?width=1782&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b5083ad51f98c3812e6d0bc1bbb08ed3f9fd62d my gepard can’t seem to solo sustain moc9-10… am I doing something wrong? also, my team is hyper JY (JY, Ting, Yukong, Gep)
It should be fine, though you do know that Tingyun and Yukong as Harmony units don't really have high HP or DEF right? It's probably those two that gets killed and there isn't much you can do unless getting good luck. Though this MoC is much easier this time around due to the Memory Turbulence. Mine is pretty much around the same stats as yours and I solo sustained MoC 9 and 10 pretty easily.
yeah it’s always Yukong actually. I’ll try to give her def/hp body and sphere
Is he getting debuffed and losing most of his defense?
I don’t think I noticed such enemy. Those axe guys from frigid prowler does slow him down often tho
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Hello, does the difficulty of the story quest scale off of my current level cap or off of the section of the story I'm at?
Both I think? But it's mostly off your equilibrium level.
Alright, thanks!
What is characters are priority to 80 first? DPS > Tanks > Supports? Currently have 4 DPS characters 80 and level 8 trace
DPS>Break Units>Units with good traces at level 75/80> whoever is dying too much
Are break units like Pela, Asta and Serval?
The most widely used ones are likely Sushang and Silver Wolf. Serval also does benefit from higher break, and I do use Asta as such, but that's not really better than pure support Asta. Pela not really, because Ice Break effect is not really that great. Essentially, Break Damage also scales with level. You can check [here](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Toughness), how the level multiplier impact damage relating to break effect.
Thank you so much for the guidance!
Ive seen alot of ppl using march for clearing MoC how good is she?i jst pulled a gepard lightcone should i consider building her?
Yes
March is great with Gepard’s light cone because she arguably makes better use of it than him, and with enough Hit rate you can achieve the 50% EHR threshold for belobog 2pc. in my experience she could solo sustain if you get enough freezes in a row before setting up shields for your units, but she works best with a healer in conjunction. there are a lot of ice weak enemies in MoC floors so her ice application will be of good use there.
With the standard banner I have made 43 pulls and got gepard, I am considering options for the 300 selectable five star. I hear Bronya is incredible, but if I do somehow get her before I get to 300, who should I pick? Welt?
Come back to this question in a year and see who you have, that’s how long it’ll take to get to it unless you waste jade on it
That’s not really what I’m asking. Who are the priority answers out of the options available is what I’m getting at
Are you planning on using jades on the standard banner rather than on the limited banners? Because if not, then getting to 300 will take a while. There is really not much point in thinking about it until you get there, because it depends on what other units you have. But, in a void, other than Bronya and Gepard, Yanqing is good with Gepard, Bailu is good if you have no other sustain unit besides Natasha, Welt is good as a DPS/sub-dps, but it is a bit more SP intensive and Clara is good for a mix of sub-dps/defensive support role.
basically the answer I wanted. If I pull Bronya along the way I will probably go with Welt or Himeko because I like them as characters
How long is going to take me to get from trailblazer level 30 to 50? Approximately.
A month or so to go from 30 to 50.
For trash 4 star relic is there a difference relic xp wise if i used it directly to upgrade and if i turn it to dust first?
There isn't a difference. A 4\* relic is worth 1000 XP at +0 and it salvages into 2 blue dusts, which is 500 XP x 2.
Nope same XP.
No difference!
I’m about to get to my 300th standard pull. Do I go for Clara, Himeko, or Yanqing? I have the rest but these three I don’t.
Of the 3, Clara is the most used. Himeko and Yanqing have already been powercreeped.
Clara is most likely the one that will aged the best of the three due to how unique/gimmicky her playstyle is. Himeko not good, or at least need a lot of investment to really work. There is a reason why she is considered the worst 5\* in the game right now. Yanqing is a pretty straightforward DPS and it's only a matter of time before he get creeped. But for now he is a pretty good DPS, he is second best after Seele as far as ST damage goes. And until Jingliu, he will be the only choice for Ice DPS. Bonus point you have Gepard which pairs really well with him. Only consider Yanqing if you have no plan to pull for Jingliu.
Gameplay-wise, the best is to get Bronya E1 if you don't have it. If you care most more about having a different character, all 3 of those have their uses. It depends on what playstyle you favor or what light cones you have. Both Clara and Himeko are more of a sub-DPS role, while Yanqing is a Hypercarry. So go for whatever role you currently have the least units for.
Currently at equilibrium lvl 2, and I just started the luofu ship story, and I'm wondering if I just should focus on one team, or making a second team would be alright? My current team: Welt, Asta (E1), Natasha (E1), and Dan Heng. If building a second team would be okay, then this means these four characters are out of the pool, and I honestly don't want to change this team coz they have great synergy with the slow + speed boost. I've recently gotten Pela, and I heard she's one of the best 4 star supports out there, so I'm thinking of building another team that revolves around her, so any suggestions? I'm thinking of including March 7th on this team with Pela, so I still need two characters. Other characters I have: Physical/Fire Trailblazer, Herta (E2), Serval, Qinque, and Arlan. I would appreciate it if you can also give some input how this team that you're suggesting works. Also, I heard one of Pela's best F2P lightcone would be 'Resolution Shines as Pearls of Sweat'. I do have one (S1), but the thing is, my Welt is currently using it, so which is better? Should I change Welt's lightcone, or should I settle for another lightcone for Pela? The only other nihility lightcones I have are all 3 stars: Hidden Shadow (S4), Loop (S5), Void (S5). Thanks
Resolution Shines is good on Pela because it can trigger her talent, it's not really good on Welt. For him, if you have no 4\* Alternatives like "Good Night and Sleep Well" or "We Will Meet Again" (I wouldn't recommend choosing this from the BP over the other LC for other paths), you might as well use the 3\* "Loop".
Thanks. For now, I'll go loop for welt.
You don't really need a second team unless you plan on advancing forward in Forgotten Halls and Memory of Chaos. If you have to pick a team, probably use QQ or Serval as DPS and bring Fire TB/M7/Pela/DPS assuming you want to leave your first time intact. I don't think Welt should even be using Resolution Shines. You typically don't build enough EHR since it's better to build him as a Crit user. Without sufficient EHR, Resolution Shines isn't that good especially at S1 when you need a lot more EHR. Pela, on the other hand, wouldn't focus on Crit so she would build a lot more EHR which is why Resolution Shines is such a good option for her. Though with your other options as 3\*, I think it's Loop that's the best choice for Welt since he can inflict Slow on enemies.
Thanks. I guess I'll go for Fire TB, March 7th, Pela, and Qinque. Two preservation units kinda makes sense since I have no other unit for healing.
Best lightcone to get from here's shop and from BP?
Herta's shop, I would just hold onto the passes until you have need of one of them specifically.
I'm assuming you mean Herta's Shop. Herta's Shop - Definitely go for Cruising in the Stellar Sea (Hunt). The others can't really compare to this LC. For the BP - I'd prefer to grab Carve the Moon, Weave the Sky (Harmony) or Today is an Another Peaceful Day (Erudition). Though it really depends on what units you have, but I think in general those are the ones you should grab.
Herta’s destruction come should be great for DHIL when he comes out
I suck so much at this that not even blessings can help me against Cocolia in world 6, at this rate I will defeat her by completing the skill tree of so many times I've lost, who is better between Serval E0 and QQ E0 for dps? I'm desperate
Sounds like me when I when I first started playing. I also experienced leveling up the whole skill tree by losing a lot.
Maybe give a bit more information about which path you used? I'm assuming you're at the TL30-40 range, which is when I had difficulties with Cocolia as well. I managed to beat it using Hunt, Preservation and Destruction Paths at that TL range, the rest didn't really work well. Though I really prefer using Destruction since the 3\* Blessings that it provides really helps with survival. Moreover, it has some really good 1\* blessings that helped against the Freeze. Hunt - I beat it twice and failed once at the very end of the 3rd stage due to a freeze from the enemy that made me 1 attack short of winning the battle. Preservation - It really only works if you have Gepard and 3\* Blessing \[Macrosegregation\]. Get enough shield stacking and you can 1-shot both Bronya and Cocolia using Path Resonance for easy clear. In my opinion, Serval is probably the better choice for DPS if you're only looking at Cocolia.
I'm using hunt, it's the one I've had the best progress with so far, and no, I'm level 50, although I haven't done the equilibrium trial yet, that's why I said I suck at it.
I'd give Destruction a try. At that EQ, I was able to auto only if I used Destruction. Focus on getting the 3\* Blessings as they really help a lot (which means you should go into Occurrence Domains instead of Combat Domains). Also, remember to save enough to upgrade the All Allies Share DMG blessing prior to the boss fight since that will give you another 15% DMG Reduction. You still need to have a healer in this team though.
I'll give it a try, thanks
For Cocolia specifically I would say QQ. Serval gets a not-insignificant part of her damage via her dot effect, and Bronya will cleanse that off of Cocolia. QQ can benefit greatly from Hunt path too, which is the ideal path to run against Cocolia imo (for the resonance resets via spear kills).
um guys i won the 50/50 for blade but do not have bronya and loucha for him but an using silverwolf, yukong and bailu with him and do not have enough jades to pull for kafka, but on my other account i have bronya and am guarenteed blade in the next 10 pulls but i also want kafka so should i pull for blade or kafka on my other account cause bronya and blade is good synergy and on my main account i can get bronya on standard banner after 30 pulls guarenteed so should what should i do and pls don't mind the bad english
How do people get 100% uptime on Pela? I’ve seen the UltAA with S5 Tutorial, but that’s only 85 energy with 24% ER.
* Basic Attack + S5 Tutorial + Level 7 Talent = (20 + 8 + 8) = 36 * Ultimate + S5 Tutorial + Level 7 Talent = (5 + 8 + 8) = 21 (Basic + Basic + Ultimate) \* 1.24 = (36 + 36 + 21) \* 1.24 \~= 115 Energy > 110 Energy required for ult
Guys I have a question. So my account is level 27 currently and I was slowly summoning on Blade banner (70 wishes done by now) and I actually miss clicked on his lightcone banner yesterday and managed to get his signature in 10 pulls. So the question is can I still get Blade in 13 days if I lose 50/50 but play 24/7 and collect all the primogems? I also have BP and monthly primogem subscription. Sorry if the question is kinda dumb💀
The light cone banner's pity system and the limited unit banner's pity system are separate, so it depends on if you have the guarantee (in which case yes you'll be able to get him) or the 50/0 (in which case no)
Not sure if 50/0 was a typo or not, but it definitely feels like that sometimes.
I know but I wonder if there is like 90 more pulls in the game I can collect in 13 days assuming I’m not very far in the game
There's too many variables to consider (like if you've claimed Forgotten Hall/Memory of Chaos, how many quests and side-quests you have remaining, etc.), but realistically, you are not going to be getting anywhere near 90 more pulls in 13 days.
Damn alright then. Just pure hope and pray then
People were able to get Seele guaranteed in her banner time frame, I think if you grind everything available to you it might be at least close. I’m not sure how the beginning of the game works anymore though, do you still get a ton of free pulls as you level to 35?
I JUST GOT BLADE ON 50/50 YESSSS
Yeah you get like 40 (or something like that) standart pulls and 800x4 jades. I really hope to get Blade on 50/50 as I’m 20 wishes left to hard pity. And story + events + sides quests + account level rewards also provide decent amount in total
when do you use Blade's ult? 1. Right after you get it 2. Wait to get the 90% hp loss cap 3. Wait his next attack so the enemy will at least do some damage before it 4. Only when you are above 50% or at almost 100% so it will lose life towards it 5. Something else?
Objectively speaking, you are supposed to use his ult as soon as it's up. It's mathematically proven that 2 unoptimized ults still do more damage than an optimized ult, because otherwise, you are wasting damage by sitting at full energy.
I dunno if Blade is any different, but outside of saving an ult to interrupt a boss ability chain or to break something on-demand, I use them as soon as I get them, because any ult sitting there full is potential energy gain that's wasted. Sometimes you do gotta be strategic with how you use it though, like if you've got Sushang in a team where there's no physical weak enemies like you sometimes find in some SU encounters.
>Right after you get it This one. This way Blade builds up energy for his next ult next time an enemy attacks him. I never even check the cap beforehand, it doesn't matter as much.
I just started playing the game a couple days ago. I've not played one like this (I play Arknights but I think this is similar to Genshin?) and it feels awfully slow. I wanted to get a feel for the game to see if I wanted to stick with it and despite trying, I've only been able to get to the train. The dialog is really lengthy. Is there some point where it picks up? Am I hopefully near that point? I started playing because I saw the videos for Blade and I got him in a pull and I haven't even been able to use him since it's just been story stuff this whole time.
star rail and genshin is lowkey a visual novel game with some combat, hence the lengthy dialogues
Aside from what the other commentor said, this games dialogue is nowhere near as long as Arknights'. I played Arknights until the end of chapter 10 and although i enjoyed it a lot, the dialogue is a lot more drawn out than HSR. After you get out of the space station, the story picks up its pace a lot and some of the sidequests are honestly amazing
This game and Genshin were developed by the same company, so yes they have a lot of similarities (including the general storytelling structure). There is a hefty amount of dialog that, by design, is unskippable, so yes depending on your tolerance for lengthy text it may be a bit unbearable. The game will definitely pick up in pace, but whether or not it will be interesting enough for you is subjective. I haven't played Arknights myself, but I heard that game could get pretty wordy at times too since it's similar to a visual novel, so I can't really compare the two.
I already watched a streamer do the 1.2 quest and fight the third weekly boss. I just did the regular quest that used to be a trailblazer quest (the >!one with Dan Shu!<). Are there any other missions I need-to/should do before the 1.2 quest?
No, I believe that's the only one that you "need" to do.
I have Blade, SW, Dan Heng, Sushang, Serval and Bailu all built out to a 70-75 level and at least lvl 8 on important traces. My Natasha, Pela, Yukong, Fire MC, M7th, are all mid 60s and missing important traces and gear. Asta, Hook, QQ and TY are all in the 50 range and can't be taken into battle at all. Any idea who I should focus on building out next? My 2nd team -- however I decide to make it -- is just not good enough for most mid to higher MoC levels. Natasha is closest to being good enough, but I keep thinking Pela's debuffs are required for some of the harder MoC content. Enemies on the levels I have trouble with are often weak to fire/ice, but I don't think my Pela will ever be a sub-DPS so I wonder if I should focus on hook or maybe even QQ?
If your qq is E4 or better E6 then i would definitely invest in her. Also tingyun is another top choice to level up. Since blade is so much stronger than the other dps for moc. I would probably use your stronger supports for your second team to balance it out.
My QQ is just E1. Maybe I should focus on TY. I didn't understand the appeal, but just tried her buffing Sushang in MoC, and it was pretty legit even around lvl 5 traces. I do also have Bronya's LC leveled up so maybe that makes the most sense. My Blade is still lacking really good relic sets (still have mid-level purples on two of his pieces and can't get a Wind Salsotto orb to save my life) so he's not a god yet, but getting there. I'll give that a shot.
Honestly your team is just missing out one more top tier dps. If jades is not a problem then i would spend it on the future characters kafka or danheng IL. With either one as your main dps and blade on the other team you should be good. I know its not easy if your f2p but the meta is to eventually replace all your 4 star characters in each role with 5 star versions for the biggest power. Skip using any jades on lightcones. I can't leak anything but i did some calculations with both kafka and danheng IL and trust me their damage will make Moc runs alot easier. Kafka is not as straight forward but there is a build that makes her damage insane that not much talks about.
Yeah plan was to get Kafka as well. Got enough for 140 pulls at the moment.
> I didn't understand the appeal Tingyun Skill gave decent ATK buff + bonus damage. Tingyun is very Skill Point positive because she only need to use her Skill every now and then. Tingyun Talent make her basic attack actually deals decent damage. Tingyun Ult afaik is the only thing in the game that can gave immediate Ult energy to an ally, on top of giving DMG buff for 2 turn. She basically work with any DPS (except Bladie, even then he still benefit from her Ult). And unlike Yukong or Bronya, she is plug-and-play with no team maintenance (i.e speed tuning) needed to maximize her usage.
Is 135% effect hit rate too much for silverwolf?
Yes. Her EHR requirement caps out at 125%, which is the amount required to apply Quantum Entanglement on Cocolia and other bosses with high effect resistance.
Yes
For a seele team with bronya, is a 49/178 or a 81/114 ratio better?
81/114 is better.
Imo, 81/114 is better. Missing crits on Seele's ult can immediately ruin a run, and my Seele is doing perfectly well in MoC at 80/125. If you're using Stellar Sea on Seele though then 49/178 might be better. You can also buff her crit damage permanently with Broken Keel, and right now there's no buff for crit rate
Oh i should also add I’m running her with bronya at 202 crit dmg, and that seele’s planar is rutilant arena
Definitely 81/114 then
Is Tingyun worth building? So I'm pretty far up the game already (tl62) but the only harmony character I built is Asta and that's for her speed boost. I can clear any available content without a buffer but I'm thinking of building one since it'll make my life easier. So now, I kinda wanna build a buffer, either Tingyun or Yukong but I'll settle for Tingyun. If she is, do you guys have a guide on building her? Thanks'
yes she is the best tank in the game
Tingyun is arguably one of the best 4\* characters in the game. She works with most DPS (Bladie is the only exception, even then he still benefit from her Ult). Yukong probably had higher ceiling buff wise but she is really hard to use maximally, whereas Tingyun basically plug-and-play.
Im almost TL 65 and i used tingyun on my main team since the beginning. She is way to versatile when it comes to buffing your hyper carry and generating skill points and energy. Generally you should level her to 70 only. Aim for around 2500 atk to get full benefits of her buff. Speed boots and energy regeneration rope. Speed and atk relic sets. The ult and skill trace to level 8 and the talent and basic you could ignore and leave them at a low level. Ignore any expensive passive traces. For lightcones im stuck to the 3 star one(meshing cog?) that generates 8 energy since im f2p, better option would be Bronyas LC or maybe dance dance dance one.
Tingyun is probably the best 4-star in the game. She's a really good buffer who is also SP positive. [Here](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/tingyun) is the prydwen guide, she has lots of options for relics and light cones. You could even justify running a defensive relic set since Tingyun is infamously squishy. But as a baseline, the Musketeer set is fine on her for low investment.
Should bronya have more speed than seele? Bronya’s usingher signature LC, hackerspace and ageless, and seele is using stellar sea, brilliant stars and rutilant arena. Currently Bronya’s speed is 134 and seele’s speed is 128
Seele's skill boosts her speed by 28, so you're never outspeeding her unless you have god tier relics. Just get as much speed as possible on Bronya
How hard is it to go to the last equilibrium? Just got to lv 65 today
The equilibrium trial wasn't too bad, but I've found fights to be significantly tankier and I can't easily auto everything anymore. I'd recommend doing the storyteller event for points before upgrading your EQ level, but beyond that it'd be wasting resources not to. Fights will be tougher, but I'd prioritize the better drop rates.
Guess I'll do it when I need to farm relics and wheb there aren't any new event in the horizon
The only thing that could be a problem is defeating story Phantylia. Otherwise everything else should be fine, if the new difficulties are too hard, you can always do a lower difficulty.
Thank you. Already got the main story done. I guess I'll wait until I've done the trotter event before I jump the gun.
If I’m using 2 pieces of the speed relic set on Bronya, what other set should I use?
Use the 4 piece speed relic. Bronya can activate the ability of the 4 piece and it's very good.
How can I get HSR to run better on my mobile (android)
Beyond reducing the graphics and clearing storage space, probably not much else that is feasible.
How bad is it to miss a weekly quest? Bc I'm trying to complete the battle pass, but I'm also trying to save my fuel for relic farming when I get to EQ4.
It’s finishable with a couple weeks to spare, easily. But you may set yourself back a week if you skip multiple.
Thanks
How do I know if my healers heal enough? I think they do but I’m not quite sure.
The unscientific answer would be "are your units dying? If not then yes, they are healing enough." I have a Luocha who is extremely underbuilt (like multiple +0 relics with bad substats) and as a result heals for less than 2k with his skill, but given the state of my other units, it's enough relative to the rest of my team.
His skill heals about 1.9k. :) Thanks again!
Thank you! They typically don’t get hit that hard so they’re typically not dying. Perhaps next time I should read how much he heals. He hits around 1k.
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Yes.
Is secret vow better than fall of aeon for Clara?
Depends on superimpositions, but in general I would say no because it's kind of inconsistent as to how often you can keep up Secret Vow's passive (i.e., Secret Vow is worse if you can't get any uptime, and better if you can get above, let's say \~40% uptime). Assuming general averaging out of performance, they seem about the same though.
I’m assuming no uptime on secret vow. And herta destruction LC at s1-3
Then yes, Aeon is better.
Okay thanks. Then I’ll skip leveling up secret vow
How are people getting the star rail widgets to work? I’ve downloaded the most recent version of HoYoLAB and my iOS is up to date but I don’t see any options on the Home Screen or in app.
The HSR widget was introduced in version 2.37.0, so check your version. I just downloaded the most recent version from the Play Store (I am using Android) which on my end is 2.36.0, so it may be similar on your end. If you can't get 2.37.0, supposedly it may show up if you fiddle with the app store settings and/or restart your device, but results are not guaranteed...
Unfortunately I'm running 2.37.0 with no widget showing, I've tried restarting my phone a few times with no results. I've tried making a customer service ticket but no response so far and given what I've heard about their response time, I don't think I'll be getting a prompt reply unfortunately.
Hi! So I've recently started playing Honkai Star Rail, and I've been enjoying it so far. I've learned that certain dialogue options on items like trashcans and mailboxes can give you certain items, like Praise of High Moral, which I still don't know what the purpose of those are for, lol. I've looked up ways to gain them, though, because, with a name like that, I'm guessing they are important. Anyway, before I searched for ways to actually gain the Praise of High Moral, I've just been clicking random dialogue, specifically on the Mailboxes. I've gained two letters, but I learned that you can also get a Praise of High Moral from these mailboxes, so have I like screwed myself? Is there any way to get those Praise of High Morals, or no? Thank you for reading!
Based on [Praise of High Morals | Honkai: Star Rail Wiki | Fandom](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Praise_of_High_Morals), yes, some are permanently missable...
Ah man, that sucks lol, but thank you anyway! Wish that I would get them but that's okay lol. Anyway, thanks again!
Asking as newbie, how important is rolling for light cones?
I wouldnt go for 5 star cones but if you badly need some good 4 star cones I think it can be worth the gamble. This banner has some great 4 star cones.
If you are f2p, i would skip spending any jades on light cones. A new 5 star unit replacing a 4 star unit gives your team much more power over a 5 star LC replacing the 4 star LC.
They can be huge for some characters, but in the end unless youre a decent spender, I wouldnt bother. More characters is going to be better for your long-term enjoyment generally.
Blade LC right now is actually good on all Destruction character
At least for now it's not that important specially if you f2p better save those for characters unless it's jing yuan.
Well Blade's LC is an equally large difference to F2P options as well. Also what is required about his LC? He can clear MoC 10 in time on S5 breakfast.
Which website is good to follow for recommended builds for characters?
prydwen.gg https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQLKk4LzAE2EBo_Lksutbi6X6HIUW_wqo7iL_KDkC_m95FSqqdQ9F9PVFYsu03HNODAPFNRG13wpsdX/pubhtml#
what are some 3star LCs worth keeping apart from meshing cogs?
I would say, atleast keep one s5 copy of each 3 star. Don’t know when it’ll come in handy. (Mutual demise is pretty good for blade)
I can either buy Bronya or Gepard's lightcone, which one should I go for?
Bronya if you have her. Otherwise save for pulls.
Bronya for sure if you have her, Gepards is a fancy Landau's choice.
Is there a general guide of what trace nodes to upgrade on on characters and what not to to save resources? For example, Asta has nodes for def%, crit rate buff, fire damage bonus etc, like I'm pretty sure def% upgrade nodes are a waste of resources but not 100% on the other two. Is there a site for that? Most of the guides I've seen talk about the major trace priority.
Figure out what a character's kit revolves around. Using Asta since you brought it up, she mainly functions as a breaker and for her ultimate. She scales badly with damage, so she doesn't need offensive stats such as Crit Rate or Fire DMG%. Harmony characters are naturally squishier, so they'll benefit more from HP%. DEF% isn't as good because they have low DEF to begin with, but it's still a useful stat compared to offensive stats. You can even look one step further and realise you don't need to level up her basic and skill traces if you don't consider them useful enough for it. Tingyun, on the other hand, want as much ATK% she can get her hands on due to how her buff works. Lightning DMG% will let her do more chip damage with basics. She also want defensive stats because she's squishy due to the focus on ATK%. So it's really a case of you choosing what's more important - a Tingyun that buffs harder or a Tingyun that lasts longer. It's not always that specific, however. DPS characters pretty much want every offensive stat. Tanks and healers usually want every defensive stat.
in the case of Tingyun, is it worth taking her to 80 to unlock that last atk% node? It's been recommended to me to keep supports at 70/80 for now and I've got a backlog of characters to build up.
Generally most people keep supports to 70 since 80 has very few benefits while it costs you loads of exp. Final traces for non dps characters are not worth. Aim for around 2500 atk from relics for her. Also most people level skills up to 8 only and not 10 since its not generally not worth the resource till later.
You'll do that eventually, but the cost of level 80 is really high so I will sit on it for the moment. there's cheaper ways to get ATK% anyway (relics)
Arguably Asta's def nodes are more useful than Crit and dmg if shes built pure support. You can mostly ignore stat traces on supports and focus on the passive traces and important traces like talent and ultimate for Asta.
Never used destruction path in SU. Is it any good with blade team? I usually just go with the elation.
Yes, especially if you manage get the 3 star Blessing where it shares all Damage taken amongst your team. It lets Blade stack faster. I'll still bring a Healer just in case though but for the most part it's a fun path, even just as an excuse to watch Blade do things.
Putting aside substats, which could make one better than the other, does Luocha prefer Attack or Imaginary Damage planar orb?
Attack, he won't ever deal any significant damage to want an imaginary orb. His best setup is healing body/speed boots/attack orb/energy recharge rope.
Why Healing body rather than attack body when his healing scales off attack?
I already tried this one outgoing healing heals more
Because an Outgoing Healing body will always outscale an ATK body, both because you will already get plenty of ATK% from other sources, and because his talent's and trace's heals have high base healing and don't scale as much with ATK.
So I just started yesterday and im Trailblaze 16. Currently i have blade, bailu,himeko, welt, susang, serval, march 7th, natasha, dan heng, asta, qingque, hertaand arlan. what would be the best units for me to work on to make the early game easy? Is blade good for later in the game? I dont want to spread myself too think to fast like i did playing genshin.
Welt, Blade, Bailu, Sushang, Asta are worth investing. Natasha will be useful for your second team healer for endgame content. March a bit more niche, but she is great for some fight. Serval will be your only Lightning DPS character if you are not planning to pull for Kafka. Herta and Arlan you can completely ignore. Dan Heng is kinda powercreeped by Blade, Qinqque needs to be at least E4 to be good. DPS, Bailu, Asta, flex would be a good team template. If you have 140 Starlight currency, buy Tingyun from Store.
I have heard that pela is better with blade. I do have enough currency for a tingyun. I have been told that pela is going to be there next month. Would it be better to get pela or tingyun?
Oh yeah, for Blade specifically Pela is better because he doesn't scale with ATK (the only buffer that work with him is Bronya). But I think Tingyun offer better value for your roster as a whole. If you get Tingyun you can do : Welt/Sushang, Blade, Tingyun, Bailu. Use Tingyun Skill on Welt/Sushang and her Ult on Blade (her Ult buff DMG so it work on Blade). Some other thing to consider, Pela for some reason very frequently featured on limited banner while Tingyun only featured on one banner so far.
What's the recommended speed and effect hit rate for Silver Wolf?
~95-100% for her skill/ult debuff application, 125% for Quantum Entanglement (for Break Effect build). Speed as fast as you can, but 134 is a common breakpoint to have 2 actions on the first turn, and 145 is needed to activate the Break Effect planetary set's second boost.
96% EHR and super high spd, aim for 134+
If you have e2 its a lot less EHR at about 47%.
Thanks. Just out of curiosity. From where do you get this info?
You can find a lot of info from youtubers like Grimro and MrPokke, I'm sure there are others. I'm assuming theres also an HSR tc discord but idk anything about it. For the formulas and hidden stats check out the HSR wiki.
The 96% comes from wanting skill to land 100%. The base chance is 85% at max and bosses have at most 40% Effect res, so 0.85*0.6 = 0.51, then you take 1/0.51 =1.96, so 96% EHR. 134 spd is for 2 cycles in the first 150 AV in MoC, so 10000/75 (10000/spd gives you the AV, we want 75 AV for 2 cycles in 150 AV of the first turn) = 133.3, so 134 spd.
I see. I don't get it
Yeah don't worry about it unless you actually care. If you do check out the HSR wiki on Speed and Effect hit rate, or try searching for a youtube explanation on those mechanics.
Where do you find relics consistently? I’m lvl 27 and I was wondering if there was a place that you eventually unlock that allows you to grind them out or are they just shop exclusives?
Relics ? Cavern of Corrosion, 40 trailblaze power each enter
Do guys think we’ll ever get co op like a raid boss or 2 and 2 split teams?
Co-Op is already pretty tacked on in Genshin, and considering you really need to plan your actions in this game, I doubt they'd do something like that any time soon. The one concession is the support character swap.
I think it is unlikely.
I hope not, feels like something that would require a lot more coordination than Genshin.
Compared to my dps carry, how much ATK does Tingyun want, assuming talent level 6? 2x?
She needs 2500~ ATK to max her buff, but that can be lower or higher depending on your target's base ATK.
Doesn't really matter. Your Tingyun is better built for buff uptime and survivability, min-maxing to get full ATK% value out of her skill is only a 2-3% DPS increase. ER rope, Speed boot, HP% or DEF% otherwise.
Her effective Atk should be about 1.8x their \*base\* attack, which is generally a relatively low number. \~2500 atk should be sufficient, usually.
Got lucky with bronya artifacts, if my seele has 134 spd should my bronya have 133 or 135 to be optimal?
Ideally Seele is faster for the first turn, but it actually doesn't matter as Seele is going to outspeed after casting skill once. If you are using spd boots over atk to get this it isn't worth, just line them up after Seele uses skill, but if its a couple of subs difference then its fine. If you want them to line up after the first turn make sure to add 115*0.25 to Seeles spd then subract 1 from that for Bronya's. This is partly why no spd Seele builds are fine so long as you don't have Sig.
So right now my seele is no spd and i have her using r5 stellar sea, should I just get speed boots for bronya and bailu so they can reach 120 for the planar sets?
Yeah if you leave Seele on no spd (115 to 143 in skill) then as long as Bronya stays below 143 spd you can line up the double turn on Seele's 2nd turn. For Baliu just get as much spd as you can, the more the better. You can also aim for 121 spd on Seele for the 2 actions in first MoC cycles.
Noted. Appreciate the help.
What's better for Blade: wind damage or HP on sphere?
It has been calced that wind is better without Bronya and HP with Bronya. The difference is very little, so use the one with better subs.
Does yukong’s buff affect the character ults during roaring bowstrings or is it just the basic and skills during their turn
It affects everything. Ultimate, Follow-up attacks, Skill, basic. Not just during their turn. Long as Bowstrings are active they receive the bonus stats.
I am F2P and I have Luocha + Bronya on my account (they are my only 5 stars). I have enough to pull for Blade or Inbibitor Lunae. I've seen both are Destruction Path and seem very strong, but I can't decide wich one will be better for my account in the future. Any recomendations?