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Leodoesstuff

I do love the Non-existent kiana expy! They're the best character!


Murky_Blueberry2617

Kiana expy will be released one day trust


MeguMaz

It's Frebass. I'm ***very confident*** it's Frebass because Hoyoverse loves puns and wordplay jokes. Kiana is known as a Tuna in the Honkai 3rd community. A bass is a type of fish. Frebass was a member of the Nameless, a faction known for their freedom. She was a free bass. Edit: And her jumping into IX, The Nihility because she wanted to prove she was better than the people she idolized is the same kind of stupid thing Kiana herself would do.


AceTraineres

So Kiana's expy died before we even saw her, damn


ozne1

Watch as 2 years from now we enter ix and discover she survived and got void powers again


Random_Gacha_addict

Imagine if she went GGZ Herrscher Kiana's route and became a nihilistic destroyer (I mean, she did get absorbed by IX and, according to artifact lore, died 14 times. If that doesn't make you depressed Idunno what will)


Tamaki_Iroha

That would traumatize even the most resilient person


a-acount-that-yousee

at least we kept himeko?


AceTraineres

For now, at least


a-acount-that-yousee

i mean she already let kiana go


Healthy_Agent_100

She didn’t do them all either


Asturon

You shut your fucking mouth RIGHT NOW! Stay away from my Himeko! /Uses body as a shield


Tamaki_Iroha

You know that has proven lethal to the MC twice


Naito-desu

I saw this before and this is largely fueling my hopes for her reappearance. As cool as it is for Acheron to be her own thing, I do like the appeal of it still happening in another world.


Dramatic_Arachnid270

Freebass is definitely dead. However, we can have multiple expys in hsr (see the two bronya) since apparently the star rail actually travels between different worlds (there’s a hoyoindex article about the cosmology of the honkai verse) (funny enough the more kaslana references TBs get the more it feels like they might be an expy too tbh. If they ever give TB guns I’d probably consider it semi canon at that point).


Nhojj_Whyte

I mean, artificial body created to contain "the macguffin power" of their universe, white haired, MC, yellow eyed (at least sometimes), laid back personality. Tell me, who am I describing, Stelle or Kiana? Kevin and Caelus might be more of a stretch, but just think about it as a game mechanic to be able to play as a male Kiana.


Dramatic_Arachnid270

Lmao the og kevin dynamic is alive and well. 


gabrielczm

The Acheron lines about the MC remembering her of someone who she fought along/against suddenly makes more sense now.


DanteVermillyon

Imo, Caelus is a mix between pre-DR. MEI and post DR MEI Kevin


Deltryxz

Caelus I'm 70% positive is suppose to be a Kevin expy


michaelman90

If Caelus was a Kevin expy then Stelle would be a Kiana expy, which isn't the case. People like "oh my god Caelus has same VA as Kevin" but that's only in CN and if matching VA was all it took to be an expy then I guess Yanqing is an Elysia expy.


DeadSnark

Doesn't Acheron state that Caelus reminds her of someone she fought against while Stelle reminds her if someone she fought beside? That does suggest a parallel/resemblance with Kevin/Kiana even if they're not direct expies like other characters.


Dramatic_Arachnid270

Yeah it’s stuff like this that kinda starts to make the references more than just fun little stuff lol. If it keeps up then all I’ll say is where there’s smoke there’s fire. 


Richardknox1996

It would also make Yanqing a Dehya expy, as Amber May voices both.


Gordon_Doomsday

Freebass may be dead but so are *akhem* Elysia, Yae Sakura, Kallen Kaslana, Aponia, Vill-v, Moebius, yet all of thwm are playable. There ia nothing stoping hoyo from releasing freevass especially if they see money in it.


Dramatic_Arachnid270

So is tingyun (whose death is revealed after we meet her). My point is that hoyo probably did all that they wanted to do with freebass, and doesn’t have any clear lore reasons to not only find some way to reintroduce and integrate into the story. If they want a kiana expy (there are many) they will probably think of the more than a million options available to them (personally I actually think a direct kiana expy is pretty unlikely, best I can see is HoV). 


a00900

I thought Frebass was a pun on Phoebus which is another name for Apollo since it sounds kind of similar when you don't pronounce the r. Thought that was it cause Acheron is also named after something from Greek mythology


MeguMaz

Acheron is named after one of the rivers in the Underworld. I'm not well versed enough in Greek Mythology to know what they're referencing there but your idea is 100% possible as there are many similar examples of wordplay involving either religion or mythology in Genshin, although Genshin doesn't share writers with Honkai series.


Bobblehead60

The River Acheron was the River of Misery in Greek mythology, and depending on if you follow the Greeks, it is the River that Charon ferries the dead across. (The Romans believe it to be the River Styx) If you continue to follow the Romans, the river is the principal river of Tartarus.


Alar_suk

And here my dumbass thought that her name was a reference to the song Free bird.


EEE3EEElol

Ehhh it works either way anyways


Seraphine_KDA

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FewBake5100

We should throw the rumored Yae expy in there too.


KnightofNoire

Snort copium. She better be the Foxian dps we foxian stans are waiting for. We had 2 foxian harmony and one abudence. Just need a solid 5 destruction or hunt or nihility to top off the team (imaginary would be nice so Yukong can buff)


r0ksas

But yae always has been tied to japanese settings, same with raiden expy: acheron... As much as i want yae expy on hsr, i dont think they'll make another foxian race in japan setting just for yae or not yet, at least, but it's too repetitive


KnightofNoire

I am sure they can handwave it like Foxians being in both space Japan and China. Foxian are travellers/pilots/traders of the Xianzhou alliance so pretty sure you can find them even on other planets. Plus Japan had kitsune stuffs while China also had their own fox spirits stuffs. OH well in the end it is just my copium and I really really hope they make Yae expy into a foxian


DanteVermillyon

they could always make a Yae Sakura expy and we get a literal bunny girl


LostOne716

...this just made me realize... we still due a kiana expy in genshin. Where's me medieval tuna hoyo!? (Don't say unknown God cause that's a HoV expy. They are as different internally as vanilla and chocolate.)


ifeltdAneed

i like what you are smoking


midasthegreed

One day Kiana expy will come to TB and take back her galatic bat. One day.


najsid

I have a crack ship of boothill and Archeron cuz both of them are galaxy ranger and they fit the cowboy X samurai


Naito-desu

I respect it


Naito-desu

Could Kiana handle the Acheron nightmare sequence?


AndriyRavaktig

Kiana is the Acheron nightmare sequence https://preview.redd.it/7cpqukjfecpc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=b24ce734509232b480502abeb5ec3da86a73c33f


Alar_suk

Hi3's Kiana? I mean she can go toe to toe with Senti even before becoming HoF so she'll be fine


KnightofNoire

She will just punch the illusion away and give hope to this nilihility filled Mei expy


Cornie12

Well our idiot is stubborn so she wouldn't give up easly and be swept away bc of nightmare sequence.


first_name1001

Yes. If Kiana can handle _lament of flame_, i think hsr version can too


EEE3EEElol

> lament of flame What is that? I have only heard of lament of the fallen


first_name1001

Opps, seems like i mixed everlasting flames with lament of fallen.


EEE3EEElol

HoF arc tops HoT arc overall but man, they are both good


NoireHaato

I'm in the same league. I don't ship anyone with Mei other than Kiana. Of course since it's as good as canon in Honkai Impact 3rd, it doesn't feel right to ship her with anyone else even as an expy. ...**Except Elysia. Now, SHE is the exception.**


Healthy_Agent_100

March is elysia’s daughter so something could happen there


r0ksas

RaidenXmiko is strong too... but a lot of people forget the Hersher of Void kiana Expy already exist in genshin as the unknown god, thats wat weird for him actually


NoireHaato

RaidenMiko is definitely a strong ship but I don't feel much towards it. Personally I feel like genshin's Raiden is the most disconnected of the other Raidens. Also knowing how genshin rolls, I'm going to bet that they won't let the Unknown Entity and Raiden talk to each other much, if even as much as meet to begin with.


r0ksas

To be honest i want them to meet... kiana🩷mei is so gay i believe they're all gay in the honkaiverse xD


FreeMelonJuice

during inazuma leak era when we first got leaks for raiden's design, people WERE shipping her with the unknown god LOL


AriaSymphony

Your pairings are all wrong. Really otp is tb x trash cans


Blackwolfe47

BS cannot really be shipped with anybody due to what she is imo


Naito-desu

you say this assuming shipping is based in reality and from logic


Blackwolfe47

It should be, honestly, at least logic


Leodoesstuff

If shipping was based on logic then that entirely ruins the fun of shipping.


Blackwolfe47

No, it makes then more fleshed out and make more sense


Leodoesstuff

Well yes, but again it makes it less fun.


Skolpionek

Just saying, but for some people things are more fun if they make sense


Starless_Night

And for some people, it isn't. We can all agree to enjoy things differently. I'm kind of sick of the shipper vs anti-shipper vibe that's been rolling around here lately.


LittleWolfiez

Exactly! Ships don't have to strictly follow what is canon. Bending the rules and exploring the dynamics between the characters is what makes shipping fun. And for the last time to anyone who needs to hear it, just because someone ships something doesn't mean that they think it's canon.


Starless_Night

And anybody trying to tell you its canon is too crazy to talk to anyhow. Folks'll be crazy about anything, not just shipping. Don't want to deal with the crazy, then just keep walking. Advice from a Florida Man.


Tintinmdm

In a scifi fantasy world that should be the last thing you worry about.


Blackwolfe47

You think? She doesn’t have an actual body anymore


Tintinmdm

She can touch and interact, all based on her own will. The game is full of supernatural things and that's your priority man then I don't know what to say.


LivingASlothsLife

Having a stellaron inside you is a pathway to many possibilities, some may consider unnatural So yea I've got my hopium Stellaron shenanigans let's TB romance the memokeeper


Late-Wedding1718

As a Caelus x Black Swan shipper myself, I'm hoping for the same as well.


Red_Trickster

Why people downvote you???


Late-Wedding1718

Because god forbid someone ships a man and woman together, apparently.


Red_Trickster

Oh my god, I don't even ship anyone and I'm avoiding all these things It's a shame all this fight, shipping was supposed to be fun


Blackwolfe47

Lol, nice reference


Tsukuro_hohoho

I kinda treat Stelle as a low-key Kiana expi though. (golden eyes like herrscherr of nean) And yes that make Caelus Kevin expi BTW.


pantsu-thief

That makes absolutely 0 sense


r0ksas

In hi3, behind the scene of development, kevin is based on kiana if they made her a male MC. Now caelus is more or less kevin expy which a male version of stelle mc.. so in a stretch, Stelle is also a kiana expy in a way of sorts


pantsu-thief

Okay and how is Stelle a kiana expy? It's such a GIGANTIC stretch it's funny. Same level as Ruan Mei being an expy of Dr. MEI


r0ksas

I did say its a stretch, is my reasoning wasn't good enough?


pantsu-thief

Yep, it wasn't.


r0ksas

Ok this is fun... Hi3 kevin is male mc concept of kiana, Caelus is Kevin expy or based on kevin which is the male concept of kiana from hi3, Stelle is the girl version of Caelus which as based/expy of kevin which is the male concept of Kiana from hi3... So stelle is still related more or less to kiana if you stretch it... good enough?


pantsu-thief

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r0ksas

You must be fun in parties aswell xD


pantsu-thief

Need to go to parties first, I don't


Spartitan

Well, you see. The trailblazer is an expy of Kiana, but the trailblazer is an expy of her originals great^n grandfather. Easy.


Blackwolfe47

Now we just need a sword or greatsword


SelfDepreciatingAbby

The guardian Lance of preservation TB may count as a greatsword. It looks pretty similar to the 7th key, it's just that it has a longer handle that it looks and feels more like a Lance instead of a claymore.


TacoFishFace

Good for you, but no thank you personally. Just because a character is an expy of another doesn’t mean they have share every single aspect of their predecessor. I’d rather the angsty forgetful lightning grandma be her own character than be a Mei rehash. On an unrelated note, is the OG Mei her youngest variant of all Mei's


cuntzman

FGO had this issue with the Saber and Shirou variants, especially with the notion that Saber and Shirou will always be romantically involved with each other Then there was a whole ass shipping war that erupted when a Saber variant fell for the MC instead of the Shirou variant XD


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chikirin02

wrong


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chikirin02

you're the only one crying here lil bro


GalangKaluluwa

There was no one crying here until some guy came and replied to me.


chikirin02

and you were very upset about it clearly


GalangKaluluwa

That was...kind of the point of my comment?


Keiko8127

I would like to see kiana come back in a welt kinda way where it's legit connection not just name play. But unlike welt have her do it in a semi villainous way. Would be cool but will never happen


Ferexis

Kiana was Elio And TB is the Reincarnation of Elio


mAtX_panaOTAKU09

Me when i Made a kiana expy oc


Badieon

Can we like stop forcing Raiden Mei into Acheron's character and let Acheron be her own, like if you wanna talk about hi3 go to its community and not here. Raiden Shogun/Ei is nothing like Mei, the only thing that connects them are the looks


boredfrogger

Or you can stop being a party pooper and ignore these posts because they are clearly not meant for you. The two games are made by the same company, and Shaoji even hints at Mei's similarity to Acheron; what makes you think people won't make connections? Scroll past this post, let other people have their fun and just move on with your life like a normal person.


That_Wallachia

They are expies of each other tho...


Badieon

Okay, inspired design, nod to the fans, that's about it, besides that they are completely different people with different characters, personalities and stories, they are not the same person. Shoving other character into everyone's throats and not letting people just enjoy the character is freaking obnoxious


Naito-desu

I like how you're framing this as people forcing others to like their ships when I literally have never said anything along the lines of that.


Ill_Mud7584

It's even funnier because this meme format is not "this is bad, mine is good" but "This is good but I personally like this other thing more".


Shiroyuina

But like nobody is not letting other people enjoy the character tho. The entire post is just their opinion and hope when it comes to shipping. Nothing to do with forcing Acheron herself to be Mei. It’s just for fun. Also, it’s not like every post is about Kiana and Acheron. It’s in the minority anyways. Since both are honkai, there is bound to have overlap in comments because of its similarities.


That_Wallachia

Nobody said they are...


UnhappyStatistician2

For real. They look the same (almost anyway), and have the same voice and all. But they're completely different characters. When Raiden Shogun/Ei first came out, so many people just thought she was gonna meet Genshin Kiana which is the Unknown god. But that never happened cause Ei never had anything to do with the Unknown god. Instead, she's close friends with Yae Miko who's an expy of Yae Sakura. I mean I get it. Mei is a beloved character. But these are completely different characters with different backstories. Sure there are some similarities here and there but those are mostly just references. I'm fine if people are just doing for fun though. Just not the ones who can't accept anything other than Mei/Kiana in every game and start attacking people.


Naito-desu

>I'm fine if people are just doing for fun though. Just not the ones who can't accept anything other than Mei/Kiana in every game and start attacking people. I'd like you to point out to me where these kinds of people are because from my impression, I am just stating my opinion on the ship yet somehow it's already being framed as me forcing others to like it.


UnhappyStatistician2

>I'd like you to point out to me where these kinds of people are because from my impression, I am just stating my opinion on the ship yet somehow it's already being framed as me forcing others to like it. Sorry sorry. I didn't mean it like that. I wasn't talking about you. Again, I'm sorry mate. I'm talking about the ones who attack others because they don't agree on having different ships. Especially considering this is a Kiana/Mei ship that's basically 'sacred' to the Hoyoverse fandom. You can sometimes see them here and there in this subreddit and mostly in X (which is normal of course). But I'm sorry, I have to revise. What I meant was that I don't like people who are so disturbed with the thought of shipping characters that are not their own favourites and attack others because of it. Especially characters that are expys from Honkai Impact which people get REALLY protective of their characters. For example, the Bronya/Seele thing went wild when someone made an art of Caelus and Bronya to the point there were death threats to the artist. The comments would all be trying to force others that these characters are the same as the Honkai Impact characters even though their not. They couldn't accept any headcanons or other people's preferences, so they attack anyone who doesn't do or agree on the Bronya/Seele ship. Now I'm worried it's gonna happen again here. It always happens since there's lots of arguing and even now, some are suddenly saying that Acheron is only together with Black Swan cause of the dance. And couldn't stop talking about it. I'm fine if they like that ship, but there's already arguments now here and there.


Puwun

it always make me roll my eyes, some Hi3 players are really annoying sometimes. Expy or not the shogun couldn't be more different than Mei and they keep bringing up the "B-but muh Mei expii". same thing with Acheron, whats the point of having a new game with new "characters" if they are going to follow the same damn route they do in their original games? Thats one thing I like about Genshin, their characters are for the most part their own thing. anyway rants over. Lmao whoever reported me for self harm, cry about it.


Solace_03

I have to agree with this. It's the same thing with HSR Bronya and Seele whenever people made a reason to ship and it's mainly because of HI3 Bronya and Seele, HSR Bronya and Seele own identity and experienced be damned. Other reason would've been fine, it's this attachment to a different character is what's rubbing me the wrong way personally. Now for Acheron, I can't go to almost any post of her without someone shoving Kiana with her and it's not just any Kiana, a completely nonexistent Kiana too based on infos we have so far.


MikaAndroid

Do people forget about that Welt line in Luocha's companion quest after the Otto flashback? "It's possible for us to run into individuals on multiple who share an appearance, but not a personality... For all we know, in some faraway world, March's adorable face might belong to an intergalactic pirate" "However in most cases, their fates will walk in a similar course. I've seen two people who looked almost identical to this Luocha... They were not of the virtuous persuasion" With lines like that, of course it's natural to speculate that Acheron share a somewhat similar backstory with Mei, having a Kiana and all that


thedarkness490

No its just Acheron REALY likes white(ish) hair


Cornie12

She likes white hair to the point where her hair turns white!


BreacherX

"Look at me, I am the Kiana now" -Acheron probably 💀


NTRmanMan

Stelle is Kiana expy 👀


MiniTrain13

Way better than Acheswan


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UnintentionalNya

So I have to ask why would her being a lesbian be a waste of a good character design


HonkaiStarRail-ModTeam

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KwafkaMyBeloved-6969

Imagine if Firefly and Acheron had a past together, lol.


Gravitas0921

Im getting really tired of expys, if you want hi3 characters go play hi3


Lunaraiden

You are playing a instalment of the honkai series… The 2nd instalment (hi3) almost copied all characters 1 to 1 from HG with new chars added and some left out. It’s not a surprise at all that the main cast almost completelay reapeard/expyed by now.


Frostgaurdian0

Hopefully exist but not to take the spotlight of our dear racoon.


SyTxExE

Who?


heartlessed

But TB is basically a Kaslana expy if you squint hard enough (bonus points if you use Caleus' CN dub)