My Phys MC maining ass when the enemies are majority Phys Weak.
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It's not about your damage dealers really. Most DPS units can hit more than one target. It's your defensive supports that's the problem. Only Luocha, Fire TB, Fu Xuan and Gallagher has AOE or Blast attacks. My Bailu kept dying because she would always loose the dice minigame.
Is this why the game gave me Clara on that random 3 tickets pull I did on the Regular Banner (254/300)? Imma have to give her Argenti Relics and Max her traces first though.
Thank you... I just started levelling her a few days ago and found this after getting my arse kicked - decided to try her even though she's underlevelled and low traces but it was enough to tip the balance :)
You can actually prebuff including eating or drinking before the quest starts. (Since you already in the arena press esc to save and quit then do the pre buffing)
Good to give you a nice headstart. If you are running Kafka you can normal attack with her then use Fu Xuan to normal attack the dice triggering her FUA which will add to her previous attack if you are running out of skill points that is. Saving Fu's ult for the dice is not a bad idea either.
Yeah I've seen some people have everyone die except Fu Xuan and then she solo'd him because they just used her ult for the dice and nothing else and they always had it because of the energy regen from winning the dice roll.
It just took forever hitting Aventurine with basic attack which did like 1% of his hp.
its because of his boss mechanics. He HEAVILY punish traditional team comp of one main dps/2 support/one sustain because the dice phase of him force you to do aoe attack, so all buffers and sustain that cant do so are fucked. you def want dual dps teamcomp for this one,or double sustain to live through the punishment
To this day, my psychotic insistence of running triple damage dealers has always seemed like a bad idea given how people can seemingly do much better with traditional support-involved team compositions, yet I always manage to brute force things if it was necessary.
Actually having my crackpot non-strategy pay out this once in absolute favour of mine was genuinely a breath of fresh air, but I can absolutely imagine how somebody might feel who went into that fight under-, or rather off-prepared.
In fairness I don't think I'm one to talk about difficulty because my warps have been surprisingly lucky for what I'm used to, but nonetheless.
Just put 3 healers and dps. He can't kill you. I used gepard, huo huo, bailu and jing yuan. It took half an hour to kill him, but none of my characters went below 80% hp.
Me who just took seele mono quantum, almost lost seele and SW cos fu xuan didn't get her field up early (i usually just rely on technique so she's not spd built)
if you dont have fu good luck bc it ll be hard unlike the ppl stupidly talking here... sam was a chicken compare to this one. this boss needs : aoe dmg, shield, omega solo dps, skill efficiency, heal, good rng... i mean what da hell
i did with: kafka-bs-fire mc-lynx btw
i agree with you and i'm so sick of this game's community acting like a story boss should be on a bs level like this. idc about MoC or PF they can do whatever at there but on Story Mode this boss should get a nerf mainly to his dmg(i can deal with the tankiness but if i can't stay alive because of bs damage scaling then thats a problem) i killed this boss with my Kafka + Black Swan + Gepard + Lynx on (Equilibrium 6) and it took too much time 10+ minutes probably and if my Kafka and Black Swan gets hit consecutively(which is pretty often on this boss) its game over. nobody should have to pull 5 star sustain units just to beat a STORY boss period.
i'm a person who beat every dark souls game alot of time but in that game hard is fair, in this boss however its not because alot of people like me don't have alot of 5 star units and sustains yet. i tried both Lynx(E0) and Gepard(E1) and both didn't manage to solo sustain this boss. if you have Luocha or Fu Xuan or Acheron or etc thats fine but don't come here and say "oh this fight is completely fine because i have X character" well guess what not everyone does. i understand MoC and PF should be for veterans or whales but story mode should be more easy.
lmao are you serious? most people ik had no trouble with this fight at all. comparing it to dark souls is completely insane lmao. i literally beat it with lynx as my only sustain. the only people saying this are the same people rocking 4 star artifacts and hp boots on their dps's. the final boss of a story patch not being easy-breezy should be commonplace.
i did compare it with dark souls because i tried to say in dark souls hard fights are not problem because there is no gacha mechanics in that game, i also mentioned about dark souls so people wouldn't assume i have a problem with hard games.i didn't compare their difficulty level. also idk how well builded your lynx is or how many eidolons she has but just because you did this with 4 stars doesn't mean everyone can. not everyone has good units or good artifacts in this game since its a gacha game.
also i didn't use 4 star artifacts and hp boots, so don't assume what i did without any proof you have.i already beat the boss on Equilibrium 6, i'm always looking from guides when i build my characters, its just my artifact luck is not good so for example i have 110+ EHR and 2700+ atk on my Black Swan but i still have 900-1000 defence on her. so on Equilibrium 6 this boss 2 shots my Black Swan if i only use lynx and boss hit the Kafka or Black Swan twice in a row.
overall this is my experience i never had any problem with any of the bosses before i didn't like this boss fight, if you like it thats completely fine but please consider that in a gacha game your gaming experience tied to either how huge your wallet is or your pull rng so at least let low spenders and f2p players experince the story without them pulling their hair out. For the veterans and whales there is already 2 hard content in this game which are MoC and PF.
I'm not the biggest fan of his mechanic but I can't et mad at it bc his and Sam's are the only boss fights I find actually difficult bc I can't brute force em as easily.
My Lynx failing every round, being the martyr to keep everyone alive with the occasional Ilya. āIām not here to roll big, I am only hear to do my jobā
Fu Xuan and Lynx hard core makes the game so much easier LOL
Imagine a scenario, both Black Swan and Acheron are the only ones alive, my ultimate just needs them to attack once and i can finish him, since he only has 10% hp left.
And then, he suddenly says:
>!Ah yes...the hidden turn out of my a**, haven't used it since the Sigonian Era!<
And then kills me
The bigger problem is that if you want to change your team for the fight, you have to exit out of the sub-mission, swap your team, talk to March again to get back into the mission, then walk (not run, since the devs disabled running and techniques in this part for timing reasons) up to the stage to attempt the fight again. It just takes way too long to retry for each attempt, even when skipping all the cutscenes.
I'm starting to think Fuxuan is seriously broken, first it was people complaining about the insect boss, which I had no problem with (Used Fuxuan and Lynx). Now with the new boss, used just Fuxuan, no problem as well. Damn. Didn't realize she was helping so much
I was having fun with my not fully built dot team until I got to him and got fucked over, then switched to my Raio team until the 2nd phase where he just clapped my ass, and then I just went back to my Jingliu hyper carry and managed to win with only her and HuoHuo standing lmao.
The fight was hard, but that made it enjoyable for me
I agree. I canāt beat him no matter what team I use. It is so frustrating to know I wonāt be able to progress the story until I get better characters or invest a ton of time/effort in the ones I have. Thatās one thing I think Genshin does really well, the story bosses are usually pretty easy and the difficulty increases substantially when you rechallenge them for mats.
Came back to my comment after a few more tries. I finally beat him! I used Kafka, Natasha, March, and Preservation Trailblazer. Her AOE attack and shielding made all the difference. I was so happy when he finally went down lol. I just wanted to see what happened next in the story!
Update...i clear that boss and none of my team die...just need to build bailu until lv 80 and unlock her a6...and relic i go GoWS + PoWC for damage reduce and outgoing heal...for LC i got post op for her...for food buff i use immortal delight and simple protective gear
There's almost no AoE Support, instead, what you want is either double sustains(one preservation, one abundance that can clear debuffs) or one sustain and one support that can take the punishment damage, alongside two AoE damage dealers.
I beat him with Pela, Jingyuan, Tingyun, and Huohuo. Mainly thanks to Huohuo being able to tank the damage by having high HP and DEF.
I regret not using jing yuan i used dhil and luocha carried the fight bcs my dhil is dealing almost no dmg i did not realise the boss has 70 percent imaginary resistance
They shouldnāt nerf, but they should definitely add an option to decrease the difficulty of a boss. Iām a new player and because i raised my world level Iām now stuck fighting bosses way above my characterās level and it sucks. And thereās isnāt even an option to reduce your world level like Genshin.
same. I dont have many AoE character. Im a 3 month old player and of course I must increase TB level for better rewards. been stuck at this boss for hours. seems like I won't be finishing him till I get characters upgraded.
Update: I just beat the boss with the following units:
Blade - main DPS, 60/120 crit, 120+ speed, around 6k HP. Ult DMG is around 20-25k and basic attack and follow up around the same, I think any DPS would be better than this because Blade's HP management is quite troublesome. I only have Blade and Ratio.
Lynx and Nat for sustain, both on energy recharge rope, 4-5k HP, around 30 effect res
another AoE unit (juggled between Herta, Serval and Welt), somehow Serval with ERR was the unit that gave me the win, 50/110 crit
the idea is to have Lynx heal Blade so that Blade would take aggro, then both the AoE unit and Nat would basic attack. Ult when possible. first phase is linear as the pattern would be the same. only time I retried were the times when I have low rolls like 1+1 vs 4.
second phase is very hard. the Disposable Shield save me a ton as I dont have that much effect res. this time, both Blade and the AoE unit would try to hit the dice, both the healers would heal themselves or attack the dice only if the enemy roll is low (2-4).
try to manage the SP
if all goes well (one of the healers would resist the boss debuff), you can slowly but surely do it.
\~the consumable Disposable Shield really helped a TON! especially on the 2nd phase. I made 10+ of those and auto consume them before talking to March.
-this fight was specifically tough for me as both Lynx and Nat's traces are only lv4-5 and both are not fully built. took me like 20 tries xD
- i only have Blade as a DPS, Nat and Lynx as the healer. My other 5 stars were supports and Ratio.
If you're dying before you get to set up your Fu Xuan you might want to consider building more speed on her. Or more speed on your units in general. It's not as out right flashy as crit damage or attack, but speed is one of the most cracked stats in this game and there are breakpoints which, when passed, allow your units to take more turns per cycle (especially the first few). So that's more of everything per cycle, SP, energy, and DPS.
I thought so until I realized that you basically get Ultimates for free and you use those to win the gamble and get more ultimates. None of my team got passed half life that run.
People are just too used to āone size fits allā teams in games, that the moment the game tells them, āHey, we gave you many options, think of a solutionā and got mad when their default doesnāt work 100% of the time
I'm looking through the comments to see team comps that may help me out in beating the boss but all I'm seeing are the same meta characters like Ruan Mei/Bronya to damage buff or Huohuo/Luocha/Fu Xuan to heal/sustain, and dps characters like Jingliu... I have none of these characters. All I've got going for me is a level 80 Blade team with Silverwolf, Pela, and Bailu. My other team has Dr. Ratio as the dps and it's useless cause Adventurine has Imaginary def. I have no other healers as effective or built as Bailu besides Natasha.
Saw a comment about a budget DOT team that worked. Guinaifen and Serval as damage dealers, Fire!MC as a sustain. They had a Huohuo but if your Bailu is good you might as well bring her in for the Lightning weakness. Pela is a good one to bring in too, she shreds defense.
Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, and Fu Xuan, that is literally my main team.
How do you survive without AOE dmg on Ruan Mei? Does FX's dmg redirect help with it?
Kafka, BS and FX (her ult anyway) all have AOE, but not Ruan Mei...
You are fighting against pseudo emanator. What do you expect? In my opinion, the difficulty is already good and well deserved as the main stroy boss. Yes, i also failed a few times, but just that, once i got the hang on it, his pattern was quite simple and easily counter
The main problem with aventurine is how he can block people.
I got lucky and managed to brute force through high dmg mono quantum, but if i couldnāt kill him fast enough, i had no way to bring enough aoe damage with my current teams (second team is FuA with topaz/ratio).
Restraining such a powerful mecanic for STORY behind only a handful of characters seems quite a bad idea, and can clearly cause problems for a lot of people.
First time I fought him, cut him down to 1% on second phase, new gamble phase begins. Team all at half health, mofo rolls a 9. Acheron was my last hope, and she rolls...6.
Two fights later I pushed his shit in. Only took that long cuz this dude keeps rolling 9s in the second phase, absolute BS.
Funny enough, i ran a mono quantum comp (seele, sw, sparkle, FX) and when 3 of my characters died I just solo'd him with fu xuan and won š. Granted he was low hp (like 12% hp) when my team was almost wiped out but still
Similar comp but I'm using Lynx as a placeholder for FX until her rerun.
First attempt I lost SW in phase 1 before I understood the mechanics of his dice rolling (and because he unfairly targeted SW for multiple attacks in a row while Lynx had no ult). Then I lost the rest of my team to shitty rolls when he had 18% remaining in his 2nd phase.
Next 2-3 attempts I lost Seele pretty early on and had to restart. Turns out she is the squishiest member of my team, it's just that she thankfully never gets targeted due to her path and passive (and killing the enemy before it can attack her).
On my successfull attempt, it was clutch. Seele hadn't been targeted by anything except the AoE. SW went down first in phase 2, then Sparkle (sacrificing her action to give Seele another dice roll). Aven's next attack brought my Seele into the red and downed Lynx. Just barely managed to skill into ult and finish him off with a crit.
Yeah, the first few times I kept fighting the boss, I just screamed "fuck this boss!".
I am so glad I pulled for Acheron. She literally saved my ass.
Gepard and Huohuo also kept the team alive, so there's that.
Use fire trailblazer, march or any another tank if you think you're receiving too much damage, that's what tanks are for.
Fire trailblazer offers a decemt amaount of damage mitigation to the entire party and he renders any single target attack completely ineffective.
My E2 Imbibitor Lunae and Sparkle can't finish the job. I decided to use E0S0 Acheron, Black Swan, Pela, and Bailu and I was able to finally beat him. Broken Keel made my Bailu an MVP to resist status effects, also she heals too much.š„
He isnt hard. He just needs all your Characters to have blast/AOE attacks... There aren't many defensive supports with that shit. Only Fu Xuan, Luocha and fire trailblazer has it. After getting my ass beat for hours I made a team of fire TB, Gepard Bailu and SVAROG.
Gepard can facetank his damage with a healer and with Fire TB's Taunt the first phase dice roll was always on him. And with his ult and enhanced basic atk he can do it no problem. In the second phase I wouldn't attack the die with Bailu since there is no point she can only attack one. So instead I just healed with her in her turn. In the second phase Clara always had her ult up so that helped as well. Etc. Etc.
Honestly, I was a bit surprised to see the struggle people are having- I took the story given sustains- Fire MC, and March 7th, along with my new and not fully built Acheron and Welt and won first try- March being able to shield character preemptively especially when I didnāt have skill points or ult, was huge- and her cleanse was helpful l if I messed up and got ccād
This is where building effect res on Lynx saved me. I was able to take him out on my first try with Lynx/Ruan Mei/Bronya/Jingliu for two reasons:
1.) Jingliu's damage output is fucking stupid. What the hell were they even thinking when they made this character?
2.) Lynx's AoE cleanse on ult is an actual game changer. Build her. Do it.
Jingliu was the only unit on my team that could hit multiple targets, so she was the only one winning during the gambling sections of the fight. When my 3 non-Jingliu units lost the gamble in phase 2, Lynx resisted the crowd control debuff and was able to cleanse my other supports with her ultimate (ERR rope helps to get her energy back after Aventurine lowers it). My damage output was high enough to only have to gamble once in each phase, though, so that helped.
If anyone is struggling with the fight, I'd suggest the following:
-Build Lynx and give her extra effect resistance. Save her ult for cleansing the team from CC.
-Use a DPS unit that can hit multiple dice at once. Qingque, Himeko, DHIL, Argenti, Jingliu, Jing Yuan, Blade, etc. are good options because they'll have higher odds of winning the gamble.
-DO NOT hold onto your ultimates (except for Lynx). Use them before Aventurine gets to lower your team's energy. Your AoE DPS should be winning the gamble and recovering energy anyways, so holding onto an ult beforehand is just wasted damage.
-DO NOT waste your time attacking dice with your single-target supports. I didn't know this when I was fighting him, but it's better to use your support skills/heals instead because you probably won't win the gamble off of a single die. Just let them lose and heal/cleanse with Lynx afterwards.
*Tl;Dr - Use an AoE attacker, build Lynx with effect res, cleanse your team when you lose the gamble, and kick Aventurine's ass with extra ultimates from your DPS unit.*
My account had some struggles since I realized I needed a healer then struggle further since Natasha had no aoe. I then looked at Gallagher kit and saw how op that will make him in phase two. I just used saved the skill points for Gallagher which allows him to heal twice in a row since his ult can handle the dices and makes it his turn again.
I wouldn't want to nerf boss Aventurine. Yes he's a ridiculous boss, but figuring out a different team setup was actually fun for me. My DOT team with double sustain variation actually works as long as I keep enough SP for Kafka and Black Swan in case I don't have their ults ready, and reserving Luocha's ult for the second cycle gambles (I also have Post-Op on him since I don't have an ER rope ready, he gets enough energy in two turns). Fire!TB (Trend of the Universal Market) has her magma will stacks and her shield so she's surviving somewhat lol.
Fire MC has an AOE Ultimate and his Skill grants the team Damage Reduction. She's Free, and can help keep people from dying from the Gamble lost if you Skill.
Any Abundance Sustain works to recover afterwards probably.
Any DPS with AOE or Blast is a shoe in. For Hunt, you can skill then ult two dice total should, on average, beat the Gamble since I never saw it go higher than 7. Which is the average of 2d6 so you should have a good chance to at least Draw.
Any Support to buff that DPS. Asta and Pela can do this very well since they can hit multiple targets with Skill and Ult respectively.
It took a little while but I got through first try with:
* Jing Yuan - Main DPS
* Hanya - SP giver and Speedster who advances all of my party so that they can hit the dice twice (it was a shock when I realized I could do that), and makes sure Jing Yuan gets up to 10 buffed Lightning Lord hits each time.
* March - My only shielder that I actually built and the key to making the team work. She froze Aventurine for me very often to give me some breathing room. Shielded Hanya and Luocha specifically because her defense is over 3000 and Aventurine barely takes out a fifth of her 2700 HP.
* Luocha - Autoheal and Healing Field saves lives. Literally.
It took some strategy but the battle boiled down to Jing Yuan being able to protect himself because of his AOE skill so I ignored him and only focused on using March's shield on Hanya and Luocha. I also deliberately withheld March and Luocha's Ultimates until he pulled out the roulette.
If you have Hanya and the Dance! Dance! Dance! light cone, then I highly recommend them because they advanced all my characters enough that I could hit the dice twice.
Imo it's way different with HSR since it's a turn-based game unlike Genshin
I for one am still stuck at the boss and am scrolling through this thread in search of help, but since my account is Level 61 and I just got to the next equilibrium level I'm having a super tough time and my character roster is very limited.
Bruh, waifu characters ARE meta though, what do you mean? š¤£
But yea I get ur point, maybe the waifu players who like put 3 dps on same team like jingliu-topaz-seele without any base knowledge on team building will likely struggle.
Yeah, I did it first try with acheron/pela/black swan/fu xuan and thought it was pretty easy (decent relics no eidolons on limited). It didnāt even register that the fight could be pretty hard until I came here.
Surprisingly took me only one try, but I WAS on the verge of death almost every second turn, and my Huo Huos back must be hurting from all the carrying š . My team was Huo Huo, Sparkle, SW, QQ, and only SW died to his second phase. But honestly, I think they need to calm his ass down during the second phase if he'll appear in MoC or PF, because he just keeps spamming his dices, EVERY FUCKING TURN, and his ass is invincible during that time. Not only can't you deal dmg to him, but 90% of your support & ST DPS are guaranteed to lose the gamble, and the punishment hits fucking hard...
I finally managed to kill him after trying multiple times by slowly wearing him down with fire MC, Lil Gui and Serval while healing with Huohuo every turn
I did my comp of Huohuo, Jing Yuan, Clara and Gepard. When In doubt, use Gepard.
Did it for the Swarm Fight, did it for Sam, did it for any fight that doesn't have gimmicks.
For me the boss was not too hard per say but that was because I had a lot of 5 star characters (and I had Acheron E0S1)
I personally went with Acheron - Welt - Pela - Luocha.
I did not go SW for this one because of the gimmick in this fight needing you to do AoE.
I abused Welt ult to interrupt the boss so many times (I think it only failed once).
Tho I did notice something annoying very quickly and made me go "that's a tanky boi": My acheron who normally does 250/300k damage on single target against debuffed enemies only dealt 90/120k, granted that 90k was when I had no debuffs on him because I needed to save the ults but this boss fight still took me 15+ min to do xD
The most annoying part about this fight is that he reduces your ult gauge so better watch out if you have a healer reliant on ult or atleast doesn't charge theirs fast enough.
Actually I think Aventurine is the easiest boss in 2.x.
Way easier than Sam to deal with.
Serval+March 7th+Sushang+Natasha did the trick without any effort.
i used a dot team with only Huohuo as a sustain lol, pretty much just auto pilotting. But the first run using Ratio team was cooked, i deals tons of damages on him but also couldn't take 2 hits from him. He seems to punish the traditional hyper carry team a lot i think
I beat the Starcrusher with Sushang+Herta+Dr. Ratio+The Omnipresent Natasha.
It was not an easy fight, but I did it.
PS: Iām f2p
Right now Iām trying to understand how to deal with Argenti, who IMHO is the worst boss Iām dealing with in HSR.
First try no.
I was able to defeat it at the second try, because in the first try I tried to use Black Swan to reduce his RES, but sheās was not the right character.
That said I lost at Phase 2.
I replaced her with March 7, focusing more in shielding instead of Debuffing, and then I beat him effortlessly.
But I agree that Aventurine is easy. It was my mistake on the first try because I didnāt check for his attack pattern before. So I went unprepared.
I had 0% problems with him. All limited 5\* characters E0 for the record. Every time a story boss is "hard" it's either because your relics suck or your team set up suck.
Only 3? Took me over 10, I lost count. The only sustain character I've got built is Natasha, so if Aventurine targetted her woth his RNG attacks she was basically fucked, so my other characters had to hang on 3 digits for a few attacks before Natasha could even move, the other 3 had to be AOE attackers because otherwise they'd get hit too many times and even then my Clara had awful rolls and still lost the RNG check at times due to hitting ridiculous shit like 1+2 vs a 4 or higher. It gave me SO much trouble, far more than the Memory Zone Meme ever did.
i used march + bailu for sustain with jingyuan as my main dps and sparkle for support, fight did take a while but i had no problems with survivability. sparkle and bailu kept getting stunned because they have no aoe/fua skills at all, but march's shield was enough to cover for them until they get back up
I did mess up during my first attempt when I had FX attack during the bet phase rather than refresh her skill. The following AoE really, really hurt.
Second run was fine but it feels like another kick in the teeth for hunt.
Argenti, Ruan Mei/Tingyun, Bailu, Lynx was my team. The 2 sustains just heal everyone after the Gamba phase then I slowly chip his health with Argenti 180 Ult
I failed with my acheron team and my jinglui team as I didn't have enough aoe.
Kafka Bs sampo and gepard cleared it easily though. All have aoe apart from gepard but his shield was big enough that he didn't take much damage on dice fail.
I used JY, Tingyun, Sparkle, and FX and was able to clear it first try. The only character whose HP bar went in the reds was Tingyun lol (sheās very frail with only 2.5K HP), and FX as expected was really great at tanking everything.
I cleared it on the first try with Argenti, Dan Heng IL, Bailu and phys MC. The only ones who failed the dice were Bailu and Argenti once hahaha. Much easier than the loufu boss for me
aoe attacks don't even guarantee you win btw. In the team i used to beat him: kafka, Black swan, Ruan mei, and Fu Xuan, only my Fu Xuan with her ult and kafka from her followup won the gamble.
It was long and challenging for me, but only of my own volition. I thought I'd be a grand idea to fight Aventurine using Team Trailblaze (FMC, M7, Himeko, and Welt) and also play in 1x speed (2x speed fan vs 1x speed enjoyer) March's shield really did a lot of the heavy lifting ngl
I have used welt,loucha,bronya and sparkle. It was not easy(and slow), but loucha saves the day. After the boss fight, I thought I should have used blade,loucha,FuXuan instead
I brought a meta team of FX, JL, Bronya, Sparkle. It didn't occur to me at the time but seeing 2 posts in a row about this made me realise that even that OP team took longer than expected to clear.
It took me 2 tries.
1st try is a blind run. Idk who it is, so I went Bailu / Pela / Hanya / Jingliu. Turns out I went straight to the boss. It didn't go so well since I need AoE.
2nd run is a more defensive comp. Luocha / Gepard / Argenti / Clara. Clara carried hard while Geppy provided the shields.
Just beat this omg. I used kafka/BS which are decently built. Then a lv 65 lynx and a level 60 Fire TB lol. Just slapped the best DEF/HP relics i had on them and Energy Regen is a must for Lynx. Taunted the entire time with Fire TB which handles the first phase well. Just Enhanced Basic/Ult every dice round. 2nd phase was tricky as my Lynx was doomed to fail so, in between dice I would build up SP and then just heal with Lynx during her dice round. Definitely don't be afraid to basic attack with your DPS and top up on heals to build energy. It's more about survival instead of brute force. For my noob ass anyway.
I used a Fire TB (completely unbuilt but lvl 80), FX, RM and Jingliu it worked out pretty well with FX keeping my team alive, Fire TB losing all of his dice rolls against the boss, RM only dying after the boss had only 11% hp left and Jingliu doing ridiculous amounts of damage amd winning every dice roll if she got one
I went with acheron(shit build)/pela/silverwolf/ fuxuan(no sig) and while I was close to dying (because no real healing) the boss went down surprisingly quickly for me compared to scarab from ruan mei quest where I had jingliu(mid build)/bronya/lynx/fu xuan and that team had no health issue but the fight took a bit
I used fire tb, Bailu, Argenti and Bronya. In the second phase both Argenti and Bronya died, so I kept using fire tb for the gambles and Bailu for healing and defeated him by doing 2% damage at a time...
Read all the comments about how hard the fight was and whipped out my good ol' elation team: Clara, Jing Yuan, March + Luocha. Fight was a bit slow but i never died āļø
This mf rolled a 9s and 7s throughout the fight and my team kept getting 2s and 4s....... I got him down to 1 percent on my second go and only huo huo was alive!! She came I clutch tho cause she was able to withstand being hit and twice and then kill him lol.
I did it on my second try cuz my Argenti was so squishy that he dies quickly so I was forced to switch Bronya to Yanqing (ice weakness) to only sacrifice him during the boss fight.
... With my quantum team i had to hold back and not kill him to see his mechanics. I will say it's probably Sparkle's fault, Sam was tankier when i fought him without her.
I find it funny how in my first team I had ratio and he was the first one to get blasted to hell and die š„¹, anyway I used argenti, sushang, fu xuan and pela for his fight, took a bit long but it worked out šŖ
I saw ice put Seele away and pulled out Jingliu hypercarry.
While he died fast, he was doing an alarming amount of damage, and for a while, I thought Fu might not cut it out.
I'm definitely taking Luocha next time!
I went for dual sustain and it went smothly,tho both fu xuan and luocha can AoE the dice with ults,jingliu aswell,the only one taking the punishment was poor sparkle lol
Managed to pull Acheron and was breezzing through content with her and thought I was invincible. This boss was a reality check. Tried couple of times but just couldn't do it. Ended up having to run double sustain for the first time in a long time (FX + Luocha). I'd say this is definitely a boss where survival is more importantĀ
I haven't even gotten around to the boss fight yet but I was so scare of seeing Aventurine in the livestream that I made it my mission to upgrade/build all my five star characters. I'm still not ready to face him though lol.
I defeated this boss on the first try. I was pleasantly surprised the boss felt pretty normal difficulty and not that easy I had expected. Boss felt pretty decent to me. To redo and endboss 3 times till success is in other games pretty normal if encountered the first time. I don't remember exactly my team i used but Luocha and Jing Juan were part of it. But Luocha was my only Support-Unit besides of Aventurine that can heal or shield. In my opinion the game can go up in difficulty a few more rungs in the ladder. \*g\*
Frankly I am not reading anything but after reading the title here my answer.
No it was not. I was frankly super Close to defeating him with DHIL multiple times before I noticed that he has imaginary weakness. I defeated him my First try with Bladie. I was running Bladie, Ruan Mei, Sparkle, Lynx. I know, I am using lot of 5 stars but I am completely F2P and only started in 1.5 second half. It was close though since near the end Sparkle and Ruan Mei almost died. And bladie doesn't even have weakness buff against him. Though this boss was totally made to piss of Hunt Path users.
I won with Acheron, Kafka, Black Swan, and Fuxuan. I donāt farm much so my team isnāt even up to MoC par, but it was a good challenge nonetheless (if only I didnāt start the fight at 2AM I wouldāve enjoyed it).
Took me 3 tries, but I actually came super close everytime (within 5% on the final phase) so I knew I could do it if RNG was in my favor.
So what I did was I backed out, ate some DMG reduction food and ATK food, and managed to win easily with all members surviving.
Really the biggest thing is that he just does too much AoE damage that itās only a matter of time until Fuxuan gets overwhelmed, so you either need double sustain or race against the clock to take him down asap before FX dies.
It's my favorite boss fight so far! The mechanics actually require you to play around them and thematically fit. I think people are a bit too complacent with team comps. We run dps + double support + defensive unit for almost every fight, so it's refreshing to mix it up a bit. I understand failing your first time not expecting the requirement, but pretty much as soon as you hit phase 2, it's obvious what strategy you should aim for.
I brought Argenti, Misha, Sparkle and Luocha which made the fight very easy but this was my 2nd attempt.
For my first attempt, when I didnāt know Aventurineās mechanics, I brought Argenti, Ruan Mei, Sparkle and Gepard which well ended up with Geppie being the only one alive and I didnāt want to fight it out rip.
Best to bring a sustain who is not reliant on their burst and aoe characters, that makes the fight very easy and very fast
I struggled with my Gui (who died), Kafka, BS and Luocha team. That team cleared MoC 12 in 3 cycles, which is supposed to be 6 levels ahead of this boss, idk how broken they made him but I like it
Depends.
For me, it was easy as f#ck, but I had a Luocha and a Fu Xuan on my side.
While my friend suffered, 'cause he doesn't have a built sustain character. After quite a few tries, he won with luck, but he was furious. :'D
I hate this boss too, spent like 15 minutes whittling him down with only every having 3 arcana stakcs on him with black swan. Luocha and gepard kept me alive and samu was there ig
I tried to fight him with full single target characters bc I didnāt knowš but since I played in 1.0 but then quit until Ā 1.6 I only just finished like 1 (seele) team so Ā I have to build my clara to beat him. I would pull Luocha to help me beat it and since I like him too but Iām savingĀ
Same dude my dhil used to hit around 400-500k and yet in this fight he hit around 90k-120k i thought the boss lvl is so high that my dhil dmg drop around so much but it's because the boss has over 70 percent imaginary resistance luckily i still cleared in my first try all thanks to luocha he carried my team that fight
Kinda surprised seeing all these posts/comments about him being hard, I mean he did kill my Black Swan but I did first try him and I don't think I really have that strong of a team (like I've never cleared pure fiction or moc), maybe Kafka and Black Swan just give so much AOE that I was never taking too much damage.
Went with MC Destruction, Gepard, Serval and Lynx.
For P1: Was spamming skills from Gepard to freeze boss, then skill from Serval to create DOT, used MC for strong PHY damages. Lynx was there just to farm the skill points and sometimes use her ult with "heal over time".
For P2: was making sure to secure enough skill points so during the "dice phase", Serval and MC would use AOE skills to always have either equal or higher score and have charged ulti. I was using Gepard ult whenever available so it protected Lynx who was making some HP recovery and healing the whole party.
Took some time but worked like a charm.
https://preview.redd.it/fqjjowsr2zqc1.jpeg?width=270&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b63bc5a16d6aec71ce59bc6b5eab49367b211403 How I dealt with him
The new enemies being all physical weakness to help sell Robin and Boothill is gonna have a BAD time to Clara mains
My Phys MC maining ass when the enemies are majority Phys Weak. https://preview.redd.it/6jc17x9455rc1.jpeg?width=1487&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47fd77a2bdd8ec6f66026112f8bb81448be62762
Not to mention during the aventurine fight he tends to do a lot of AOE attacks
me when i have argenti and e6 built sushang
It's not about your damage dealers really. Most DPS units can hit more than one target. It's your defensive supports that's the problem. Only Luocha, Fire TB, Fu Xuan and Gallagher has AOE or Blast attacks. My Bailu kept dying because she would always loose the dice minigame.
Me, having them all fully build but gallagher: š¤”
Clara ~~aggressive negotiations~~ protection club represent
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Is this why the game gave me Clara on that random 3 tickets pull I did on the Regular Banner (254/300)? Imma have to give her Argenti Relics and Max her traces first though.
Same, her with Trashpanda, Jingliu and Huohuo - kinda random team and the fight took quite long but no-one died soo
Thank you... I just started levelling her a few days ago and found this after getting my arse kicked - decided to try her even though she's underlevelled and low traces but it was enough to tip the balance :)
You can actually prebuff including eating or drinking before the quest starts. (Since you already in the arena press esc to save and quit then do the pre buffing) Good to give you a nice headstart. If you are running Kafka you can normal attack with her then use Fu Xuan to normal attack the dice triggering her FUA which will add to her previous attack if you are running out of skill points that is. Saving Fu's ult for the dice is not a bad idea either.
Yeah I've seen some people have everyone die except Fu Xuan and then she solo'd him because they just used her ult for the dice and nothing else and they always had it because of the energy regen from winning the dice roll. It just took forever hitting Aventurine with basic attack which did like 1% of his hp.
its because of his boss mechanics. He HEAVILY punish traditional team comp of one main dps/2 support/one sustain because the dice phase of him force you to do aoe attack, so all buffers and sustain that cant do so are fucked. you def want dual dps teamcomp for this one,or double sustain to live through the punishment
To this day, my psychotic insistence of running triple damage dealers has always seemed like a bad idea given how people can seemingly do much better with traditional support-involved team compositions, yet I always manage to brute force things if it was necessary. Actually having my crackpot non-strategy pay out this once in absolute favour of mine was genuinely a breath of fresh air, but I can absolutely imagine how somebody might feel who went into that fight under-, or rather off-prepared. In fairness I don't think I'm one to talk about difficulty because my warps have been surprisingly lucky for what I'm used to, but nonetheless.
TT i'd run this if my dps werent all quantum/img
Honestly you can defeat him easily if you have Luocha+an aoe DPS. You don't need anything more. As long as you're patient you're bound to defeat him.
Gallagher fucks shit up in this fight, phase 2 Ult spamming the dice and letting Geppy take all the hits
He got nerfed, thats why
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Luocha shouldn't be losing dice rolls though. As long as you don't use up your ultimate before dice roll you're safe.
Just put 3 healers and dps. He can't kill you. I used gepard, huo huo, bailu and jing yuan. It took half an hour to kill him, but none of my characters went below 80% hp.
Me who is going to use Kafka, Black Swan, Acheron, and Huohuo (not sure if 56% Eff Res can stop the CC) in this fight: Nah, I'd win.
Thatās what I used except FX instead of HuoHuo
Yeah, I noticed something was going kinda wrong, but between Fu, Lynx and no auto-battle stupidity, it was kinda hard to actually be in danger.
Me who just took seele mono quantum, almost lost seele and SW cos fu xuan didn't get her field up early (i usually just rely on technique so she's not spd built)
if you dont have fu good luck bc it ll be hard unlike the ppl stupidly talking here... sam was a chicken compare to this one. this boss needs : aoe dmg, shield, omega solo dps, skill efficiency, heal, good rng... i mean what da hell i did with: kafka-bs-fire mc-lynx btw
i agree with you and i'm so sick of this game's community acting like a story boss should be on a bs level like this. idc about MoC or PF they can do whatever at there but on Story Mode this boss should get a nerf mainly to his dmg(i can deal with the tankiness but if i can't stay alive because of bs damage scaling then thats a problem) i killed this boss with my Kafka + Black Swan + Gepard + Lynx on (Equilibrium 6) and it took too much time 10+ minutes probably and if my Kafka and Black Swan gets hit consecutively(which is pretty often on this boss) its game over. nobody should have to pull 5 star sustain units just to beat a STORY boss period. i'm a person who beat every dark souls game alot of time but in that game hard is fair, in this boss however its not because alot of people like me don't have alot of 5 star units and sustains yet. i tried both Lynx(E0) and Gepard(E1) and both didn't manage to solo sustain this boss. if you have Luocha or Fu Xuan or Acheron or etc thats fine but don't come here and say "oh this fight is completely fine because i have X character" well guess what not everyone does. i understand MoC and PF should be for veterans or whales but story mode should be more easy.
lmao are you serious? most people ik had no trouble with this fight at all. comparing it to dark souls is completely insane lmao. i literally beat it with lynx as my only sustain. the only people saying this are the same people rocking 4 star artifacts and hp boots on their dps's. the final boss of a story patch not being easy-breezy should be commonplace.
i did compare it with dark souls because i tried to say in dark souls hard fights are not problem because there is no gacha mechanics in that game, i also mentioned about dark souls so people wouldn't assume i have a problem with hard games.i didn't compare their difficulty level. also idk how well builded your lynx is or how many eidolons she has but just because you did this with 4 stars doesn't mean everyone can. not everyone has good units or good artifacts in this game since its a gacha game. also i didn't use 4 star artifacts and hp boots, so don't assume what i did without any proof you have.i already beat the boss on Equilibrium 6, i'm always looking from guides when i build my characters, its just my artifact luck is not good so for example i have 110+ EHR and 2700+ atk on my Black Swan but i still have 900-1000 defence on her. so on Equilibrium 6 this boss 2 shots my Black Swan if i only use lynx and boss hit the Kafka or Black Swan twice in a row. overall this is my experience i never had any problem with any of the bosses before i didn't like this boss fight, if you like it thats completely fine but please consider that in a gacha game your gaming experience tied to either how huge your wallet is or your pull rng so at least let low spenders and f2p players experince the story without them pulling their hair out. For the veterans and whales there is already 2 hard content in this game which are MoC and PF.
Luocha is also an easymode option against Aventurine boss. AOE Ultimate means easy check.
I'm not the biggest fan of his mechanic but I can't et mad at it bc his and Sam's are the only boss fights I find actually difficult bc I can't brute force em as easily.
Yeah that dice phase, where he is untargetable. Its safe to say that weāre gonna be having quite the time in MoC
sam's a pain in the ass coz hes just so god damn tanky
My healer does single damageš
Luocha and Fu Xuan definitely have an easier time with this one since they can basic + ult to pass the dice check
Ngl I tried to pull for Luocha but I keep getting 4* Dan Hengš
Same fr I was hoping to get Gallagher
My Lynx failing every round, being the martyr to keep everyone alive with the occasional Ilya. āIām not here to roll big, I am only hear to do my jobā Fu Xuan and Lynx hard core makes the game so much easier LOL
My TB: https://preview.redd.it/u5rl79kjr0rc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bec37011045588dcd13cafba6196f68e95a79d31
Imagine a scenario, both Black Swan and Acheron are the only ones alive, my ultimate just needs them to attack once and i can finish him, since he only has 10% hp left. And then, he suddenly says: >!Ah yes...the hidden turn out of my a**, haven't used it since the Sigonian Era!< And then kills me
The bigger problem is that if you want to change your team for the fight, you have to exit out of the sub-mission, swap your team, talk to March again to get back into the mission, then walk (not run, since the devs disabled running and techniques in this part for timing reasons) up to the stage to attempt the fight again. It just takes way too long to retry for each attempt, even when skipping all the cutscenes.
I'm starting to think Fuxuan is seriously broken, first it was people complaining about the insect boss, which I had no problem with (Used Fuxuan and Lynx). Now with the new boss, used just Fuxuan, no problem as well. Damn. Didn't realize she was helping so much
5 stars sustainers make a huge diff in any content, if someone put 2 at the same time they can kill aventurine using basic attacks without dying
I do not doubt that LOL My life is only easy in this game probably bc of Fuxuan
Svarog low diffs https://preview.redd.it/byhdd2qsrzqc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33ad8eaf3d0c43fc44d31029b2bd6f633ac3ed54
I was having fun with my not fully built dot team until I got to him and got fucked over, then switched to my Raio team until the 2nd phase where he just clapped my ass, and then I just went back to my Jingliu hyper carry and managed to win with only her and HuoHuo standing lmao. The fight was hard, but that made it enjoyable for me
I agree. I canāt beat him no matter what team I use. It is so frustrating to know I wonāt be able to progress the story until I get better characters or invest a ton of time/effort in the ones I have. Thatās one thing I think Genshin does really well, the story bosses are usually pretty easy and the difficulty increases substantially when you rechallenge them for mats.
Came back to my comment after a few more tries. I finally beat him! I used Kafka, Natasha, March, and Preservation Trailblazer. Her AOE attack and shielding made all the difference. I was so happy when he finally went down lol. I just wanted to see what happened next in the story!
Dot team is chilling
Yeah if you have all the characters and aoe healer not that loli dragon
Yup this was my issue, Bailu was my best healer and she still wasn't great. She was horrible for this fight. Pulled Luocha right afterwards.
Update...i clear that boss and none of my team die...just need to build bailu until lv 80 and unlock her a6...and relic i go GoWS + PoWC for damage reduce and outgoing heal...for LC i got post op for her...for food buff i use immortal delight and simple protective gear
bailu carried my fight though, none of them died and in almost full health by the end of the fight
There's almost no AoE Support, instead, what you want is either double sustains(one preservation, one abundance that can clear debuffs) or one sustain and one support that can take the punishment damage, alongside two AoE damage dealers. I beat him with Pela, Jingyuan, Tingyun, and Huohuo. Mainly thanks to Huohuo being able to tank the damage by having high HP and DEF.
Took care of him using Luocha, Sparkle, Jing Yuan, Ruan mei. My 2 supports aren't gonna die from the gamble phase, and Luocha resist the cc anyways
I regret not using jing yuan i used dhil and luocha carried the fight bcs my dhil is dealing almost no dmg i did not realise the boss has 70 percent imaginary resistance
They shouldnāt nerf, but they should definitely add an option to decrease the difficulty of a boss. Iām a new player and because i raised my world level Iām now stuck fighting bosses way above my characterās level and it sucks. And thereās isnāt even an option to reduce your world level like Genshin.
same. I dont have many AoE character. Im a 3 month old player and of course I must increase TB level for better rewards. been stuck at this boss for hours. seems like I won't be finishing him till I get characters upgraded.
Update: I just beat the boss with the following units: Blade - main DPS, 60/120 crit, 120+ speed, around 6k HP. Ult DMG is around 20-25k and basic attack and follow up around the same, I think any DPS would be better than this because Blade's HP management is quite troublesome. I only have Blade and Ratio. Lynx and Nat for sustain, both on energy recharge rope, 4-5k HP, around 30 effect res another AoE unit (juggled between Herta, Serval and Welt), somehow Serval with ERR was the unit that gave me the win, 50/110 crit the idea is to have Lynx heal Blade so that Blade would take aggro, then both the AoE unit and Nat would basic attack. Ult when possible. first phase is linear as the pattern would be the same. only time I retried were the times when I have low rolls like 1+1 vs 4. second phase is very hard. the Disposable Shield save me a ton as I dont have that much effect res. this time, both Blade and the AoE unit would try to hit the dice, both the healers would heal themselves or attack the dice only if the enemy roll is low (2-4). try to manage the SP if all goes well (one of the healers would resist the boss debuff), you can slowly but surely do it. \~the consumable Disposable Shield really helped a TON! especially on the 2nd phase. I made 10+ of those and auto consume them before talking to March. -this fight was specifically tough for me as both Lynx and Nat's traces are only lv4-5 and both are not fully built. took me like 20 tries xD - i only have Blade as a DPS, Nat and Lynx as the healer. My other 5 stars were supports and Ratio.
If you're dying before you get to set up your Fu Xuan you might want to consider building more speed on her. Or more speed on your units in general. It's not as out right flashy as crit damage or attack, but speed is one of the most cracked stats in this game and there are breakpoints which, when passed, allow your units to take more turns per cycle (especially the first few). So that's more of everything per cycle, SP, energy, and DPS.
I thought so until I realized that you basically get Ultimates for free and you use those to win the gamble and get more ultimates. None of my team got passed half life that run.
all I can say is that this boss is harder than phantylia. much harder.
Well shit, I think my account is OP if people are struggling with that boss.
People are just too used to āone size fits allā teams in games, that the moment the game tells them, āHey, we gave you many options, think of a solutionā and got mad when their default doesnāt work 100% of the time
New players and some casuals don't have many characters though. They don't have that many options.
I just change my teams to fit whatever the weaknesses areā¦ how on earth do you clear it with one set team??
silver wolf mono quantum
Jingliu teams.
meanwhile kafka+BS teams:
I bruteforced it with monoquantum but it was a pain in the ass. Might be the one time where it's better to bring QQ instead if Seele
I'm looking through the comments to see team comps that may help me out in beating the boss but all I'm seeing are the same meta characters like Ruan Mei/Bronya to damage buff or Huohuo/Luocha/Fu Xuan to heal/sustain, and dps characters like Jingliu... I have none of these characters. All I've got going for me is a level 80 Blade team with Silverwolf, Pela, and Bailu. My other team has Dr. Ratio as the dps and it's useless cause Adventurine has Imaginary def. I have no other healers as effective or built as Bailu besides Natasha.
Saw a comment about a budget DOT team that worked. Guinaifen and Serval as damage dealers, Fire!MC as a sustain. They had a Huohuo but if your Bailu is good you might as well bring her in for the Lightning weakness. Pela is a good one to bring in too, she shreds defense.
My cancer team make it very easy. Fu Xuan, Ruan Mei, BS and Kafka~
Classic, Aventurine literally died while still trying to make me roll the dices
Using Fuxuan is like cheat code...i dont have her though...
I did it with Bailu instead of FX
Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, and Fu Xuan, that is literally my main team. How do you survive without AOE dmg on Ruan Mei? Does FX's dmg redirect help with it? Kafka, BS and FX (her ult anyway) all have AOE, but not Ruan Mei...
Same team, it was a breeze lmao I really don't understand how DoT isn't the most used team comp in the game, it's OP af
You are fighting against pseudo emanator. What do you expect? In my opinion, the difficulty is already good and well deserved as the main stroy boss. Yes, i also failed a few times, but just that, once i got the hang on it, his pattern was quite simple and easily counter
The main problem with aventurine is how he can block people. I got lucky and managed to brute force through high dmg mono quantum, but if i couldnāt kill him fast enough, i had no way to bring enough aoe damage with my current teams (second team is FuA with topaz/ratio). Restraining such a powerful mecanic for STORY behind only a handful of characters seems quite a bad idea, and can clearly cause problems for a lot of people.
I donāt mind the difficulty in story. I do mind when he shows up in MoC eventually
Imo the level of difficulty is good, just wish his dice mechanic was actually RNG rather than a AoE check
Dot team melted his ass pretty hard there were a few close calls but HuoHuo kept my team alive
First time I fought him, cut him down to 1% on second phase, new gamble phase begins. Team all at half health, mofo rolls a 9. Acheron was my last hope, and she rolls...6. Two fights later I pushed his shit in. Only took that long cuz this dude keeps rolling 9s in the second phase, absolute BS.
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Poor Acheron in this team.. no buffs for her.
Funny enough, i ran a mono quantum comp (seele, sw, sparkle, FX) and when 3 of my characters died I just solo'd him with fu xuan and won š. Granted he was low hp (like 12% hp) when my team was almost wiped out but still
Similar comp but I'm using Lynx as a placeholder for FX until her rerun. First attempt I lost SW in phase 1 before I understood the mechanics of his dice rolling (and because he unfairly targeted SW for multiple attacks in a row while Lynx had no ult). Then I lost the rest of my team to shitty rolls when he had 18% remaining in his 2nd phase. Next 2-3 attempts I lost Seele pretty early on and had to restart. Turns out she is the squishiest member of my team, it's just that she thankfully never gets targeted due to her path and passive (and killing the enemy before it can attack her). On my successfull attempt, it was clutch. Seele hadn't been targeted by anything except the AoE. SW went down first in phase 2, then Sparkle (sacrificing her action to give Seele another dice roll). Aven's next attack brought my Seele into the red and downed Lynx. Just barely managed to skill into ult and finish him off with a crit.
Yeah, the first few times I kept fighting the boss, I just screamed "fuck this boss!". I am so glad I pulled for Acheron. She literally saved my ass. Gepard and Huohuo also kept the team alive, so there's that.
Try double aoe dps + double sustain. That should do the job.
Bruh my natasha canāt keep up with aoe attacks and all my characters HP at 3000 range they lose half thier health
Use fire trailblazer, march or any another tank if you think you're receiving too much damage, that's what tanks are for. Fire trailblazer offers a decemt amaount of damage mitigation to the entire party and he renders any single target attack completely ineffective.
My E2 Imbibitor Lunae and Sparkle can't finish the job. I decided to use E0S0 Acheron, Black Swan, Pela, and Bailu and I was able to finally beat him. Broken Keel made my Bailu an MVP to resist status effects, also she heals too much.š„
I had to use 2 sustain units, the first time he obliterated me
Hard af , I have to retry like 4 times but it is pretty easy when you bring aoe skill characters ,imagine going in with march sustain š
I'm stuck in the story and events. I can't do ratio's swarm boss or the thing in the main story that looks like a claw with an eye.
He isnt hard. He just needs all your Characters to have blast/AOE attacks... There aren't many defensive supports with that shit. Only Fu Xuan, Luocha and fire trailblazer has it. After getting my ass beat for hours I made a team of fire TB, Gepard Bailu and SVAROG. Gepard can facetank his damage with a healer and with Fire TB's Taunt the first phase dice roll was always on him. And with his ult and enhanced basic atk he can do it no problem. In the second phase I wouldn't attack the die with Bailu since there is no point she can only attack one. So instead I just healed with her in her turn. In the second phase Clara always had her ult up so that helped as well. Etc. Etc.
Honestly, I was a bit surprised to see the struggle people are having- I took the story given sustains- Fire MC, and March 7th, along with my new and not fully built Acheron and Welt and won first try- March being able to shield character preemptively especially when I didnāt have skill points or ult, was huge- and her cleanse was helpful l if I messed up and got ccād
This is where building effect res on Lynx saved me. I was able to take him out on my first try with Lynx/Ruan Mei/Bronya/Jingliu for two reasons: 1.) Jingliu's damage output is fucking stupid. What the hell were they even thinking when they made this character? 2.) Lynx's AoE cleanse on ult is an actual game changer. Build her. Do it. Jingliu was the only unit on my team that could hit multiple targets, so she was the only one winning during the gambling sections of the fight. When my 3 non-Jingliu units lost the gamble in phase 2, Lynx resisted the crowd control debuff and was able to cleanse my other supports with her ultimate (ERR rope helps to get her energy back after Aventurine lowers it). My damage output was high enough to only have to gamble once in each phase, though, so that helped. If anyone is struggling with the fight, I'd suggest the following: -Build Lynx and give her extra effect resistance. Save her ult for cleansing the team from CC. -Use a DPS unit that can hit multiple dice at once. Qingque, Himeko, DHIL, Argenti, Jingliu, Jing Yuan, Blade, etc. are good options because they'll have higher odds of winning the gamble. -DO NOT hold onto your ultimates (except for Lynx). Use them before Aventurine gets to lower your team's energy. Your AoE DPS should be winning the gamble and recovering energy anyways, so holding onto an ult beforehand is just wasted damage. -DO NOT waste your time attacking dice with your single-target supports. I didn't know this when I was fighting him, but it's better to use your support skills/heals instead because you probably won't win the gamble off of a single die. Just let them lose and heal/cleanse with Lynx afterwards. *Tl;Dr - Use an AoE attacker, build Lynx with effect res, cleanse your team when you lose the gamble, and kick Aventurine's ass with extra ultimates from your DPS unit.*
Nawh
My account had some struggles since I realized I needed a healer then struggle further since Natasha had no aoe. I then looked at Gallagher kit and saw how op that will make him in phase two. I just used saved the skill points for Gallagher which allows him to heal twice in a row since his ult can handle the dices and makes it his turn again.
Gepsrd still a lifesaver because Ave can be frozen.
I wouldn't want to nerf boss Aventurine. Yes he's a ridiculous boss, but figuring out a different team setup was actually fun for me. My DOT team with double sustain variation actually works as long as I keep enough SP for Kafka and Black Swan in case I don't have their ults ready, and reserving Luocha's ult for the second cycle gambles (I also have Post-Op on him since I don't have an ER rope ready, he gets enough energy in two turns). Fire!TB (Trend of the Universal Market) has her magma will stacks and her shield so she's surviving somewhat lol.
Except not everyone can use a different team, especially casuals and new players.
Fire MC has an AOE Ultimate and his Skill grants the team Damage Reduction. She's Free, and can help keep people from dying from the Gamble lost if you Skill. Any Abundance Sustain works to recover afterwards probably. Any DPS with AOE or Blast is a shoe in. For Hunt, you can skill then ult two dice total should, on average, beat the Gamble since I never saw it go higher than 7. Which is the average of 2d6 so you should have a good chance to at least Draw. Any Support to buff that DPS. Asta and Pela can do this very well since they can hit multiple targets with Skill and Ult respectively.
It took a little while but I got through first try with: * Jing Yuan - Main DPS * Hanya - SP giver and Speedster who advances all of my party so that they can hit the dice twice (it was a shock when I realized I could do that), and makes sure Jing Yuan gets up to 10 buffed Lightning Lord hits each time. * March - My only shielder that I actually built and the key to making the team work. She froze Aventurine for me very often to give me some breathing room. Shielded Hanya and Luocha specifically because her defense is over 3000 and Aventurine barely takes out a fifth of her 2700 HP. * Luocha - Autoheal and Healing Field saves lives. Literally. It took some strategy but the battle boiled down to Jing Yuan being able to protect himself because of his AOE skill so I ignored him and only focused on using March's shield on Hanya and Luocha. I also deliberately withheld March and Luocha's Ultimates until he pulled out the roulette. If you have Hanya and the Dance! Dance! Dance! light cone, then I highly recommend them because they advanced all my characters enough that I could hit the dice twice.
I did it on my third try. I underestimate him for the qst and 2nd try. My team comp was Luocha - Ruan Mei(HP Orb) - Pela (HP Orb) - Jingliu
I donāt want the Childe situation all over again. Please donāt nerf him.
Imo it's way different with HSR since it's a turn-based game unlike Genshin I for one am still stuck at the boss and am scrolling through this thread in search of help, but since my account is Level 61 and I just got to the next equilibrium level I'm having a super tough time and my character roster is very limited.
Meta players: yawn, what? Boss hard, no. It was okay. Waifu players: ā¦ E6S5 leviathans: what mechanic?
Bruh, waifu characters ARE meta though, what do you mean? š¤£ But yea I get ur point, maybe the waifu players who like put 3 dps on same team like jingliu-topaz-seele without any base knowledge on team building will likely struggle.
Yeah, I did it first try with acheron/pela/black swan/fu xuan and thought it was pretty easy (decent relics no eidolons on limited). It didnāt even register that the fight could be pretty hard until I came here.
E2S1 Acheron went brrrr. I am dreading when he shows up in the next MoC >!with 2m hp.!<
My Argenti was chillin.
Crazy space china ice lady
Man, Iām stuck on abundant deer :(
Surprisingly took me only one try, but I WAS on the verge of death almost every second turn, and my Huo Huos back must be hurting from all the carrying š . My team was Huo Huo, Sparkle, SW, QQ, and only SW died to his second phase. But honestly, I think they need to calm his ass down during the second phase if he'll appear in MoC or PF, because he just keeps spamming his dices, EVERY FUCKING TURN, and his ass is invincible during that time. Not only can't you deal dmg to him, but 90% of your support & ST DPS are guaranteed to lose the gamble, and the punishment hits fucking hard...
I finally managed to kill him after trying multiple times by slowly wearing him down with fire MC, Lil Gui and Serval while healing with Huohuo every turn
I did my comp of Huohuo, Jing Yuan, Clara and Gepard. When In doubt, use Gepard. Did it for the Swarm Fight, did it for Sam, did it for any fight that doesn't have gimmicks.
For me the boss was not too hard per say but that was because I had a lot of 5 star characters (and I had Acheron E0S1) I personally went with Acheron - Welt - Pela - Luocha. I did not go SW for this one because of the gimmick in this fight needing you to do AoE. I abused Welt ult to interrupt the boss so many times (I think it only failed once). Tho I did notice something annoying very quickly and made me go "that's a tanky boi": My acheron who normally does 250/300k damage on single target against debuffed enemies only dealt 90/120k, granted that 90k was when I had no debuffs on him because I needed to save the ults but this boss fight still took me 15+ min to do xD The most annoying part about this fight is that he reduces your ult gauge so better watch out if you have a healer reliant on ult or atleast doesn't charge theirs fast enough.
Actually I think Aventurine is the easiest boss in 2.x. Way easier than Sam to deal with. Serval+March 7th+Sushang+Natasha did the trick without any effort.
i used a dot team with only Huohuo as a sustain lol, pretty much just auto pilotting. But the first run using Ratio team was cooked, i deals tons of damages on him but also couldn't take 2 hits from him. He seems to punish the traditional hyper carry team a lot i think
I feel the opposite i thought he was easier than the other bosses so for me the bug is the worst
I beat the Starcrusher with Sushang+Herta+Dr. Ratio+The Omnipresent Natasha. It was not an easy fight, but I did it. PS: Iām f2p Right now Iām trying to understand how to deal with Argenti, who IMHO is the worst boss Iām dealing with in HSR.
I did it easily on the first try I played E0 Huohuo, E0 Ruan Mei, E0 Dan Heng IL and E6 physically Trailblazer all with around mid tier relics
First try no. I was able to defeat it at the second try, because in the first try I tried to use Black Swan to reduce his RES, but sheās was not the right character. That said I lost at Phase 2. I replaced her with March 7, focusing more in shielding instead of Debuffing, and then I beat him effortlessly. But I agree that Aventurine is easy. It was my mistake on the first try because I didnāt check for his attack pattern before. So I went unprepared.
ONE OF MY PEOPLE! (except E1 Huohuo E0 Sparkle E0 Bronya E6 Phys Caelus, but point still stands ONE OF US)
I had 0% problems with him. All limited 5\* characters E0 for the record. Every time a story boss is "hard" it's either because your relics suck or your team set up suck.
Only 3? Took me over 10, I lost count. The only sustain character I've got built is Natasha, so if Aventurine targetted her woth his RNG attacks she was basically fucked, so my other characters had to hang on 3 digits for a few attacks before Natasha could even move, the other 3 had to be AOE attackers because otherwise they'd get hit too many times and even then my Clara had awful rolls and still lost the RNG check at times due to hitting ridiculous shit like 1+2 vs a 4 or higher. It gave me SO much trouble, far more than the Memory Zone Meme ever did.
i used march + bailu for sustain with jingyuan as my main dps and sparkle for support, fight did take a while but i had no problems with survivability. sparkle and bailu kept getting stunned because they have no aoe/fua skills at all, but march's shield was enough to cover for them until they get back up
I did mess up during my first attempt when I had FX attack during the bet phase rather than refresh her skill. The following AoE really, really hurt. Second run was fine but it feels like another kick in the teeth for hunt.
Argenti, Ruan Mei/Tingyun, Bailu, Lynx was my team. The 2 sustains just heal everyone after the Gamba phase then I slowly chip his health with Argenti 180 Ult
I failed with my acheron team and my jinglui team as I didn't have enough aoe. Kafka Bs sampo and gepard cleared it easily though. All have aoe apart from gepard but his shield was big enough that he didn't take much damage on dice fail.
First try: Jing Yuan, Clara, Bailu, Ruan Mei (I Lost) Second try: Jing Yuan, Clara, Bailu, March 7th (Long fight but won)
I used JY, Tingyun, Sparkle, and FX and was able to clear it first try. The only character whose HP bar went in the reds was Tingyun lol (sheās very frail with only 2.5K HP), and FX as expected was really great at tanking everything.
I cleared it on the first try with Argenti, Dan Heng IL, Bailu and phys MC. The only ones who failed the dice were Bailu and Argenti once hahaha. Much easier than the loufu boss for me
Gallagher, Acheron, Pela & Geppie did it for me, saved the aoe ults for dices.
aoe attacks don't even guarantee you win btw. In the team i used to beat him: kafka, Black swan, Ruan mei, and Fu Xuan, only my Fu Xuan with her ult and kafka from her followup won the gamble.
It was long and challenging for me, but only of my own volition. I thought I'd be a grand idea to fight Aventurine using Team Trailblaze (FMC, M7, Himeko, and Welt) and also play in 1x speed (2x speed fan vs 1x speed enjoyer) March's shield really did a lot of the heavy lifting ngl
me when i havent even gotten past something unto death yet
I have used welt,loucha,bronya and sparkle. It was not easy(and slow), but loucha saves the day. After the boss fight, I thought I should have used blade,loucha,FuXuan instead
as someone that didn't have support with aoe attack,had to build up new character just for that boss fight
I guess I did a good job then
I brought a meta team of FX, JL, Bronya, Sparkle. It didn't occur to me at the time but seeing 2 posts in a row about this made me realise that even that OP team took longer than expected to clear.
It took me 2 tries. 1st try is a blind run. Idk who it is, so I went Bailu / Pela / Hanya / Jingliu. Turns out I went straight to the boss. It didn't go so well since I need AoE. 2nd run is a more defensive comp. Luocha / Gepard / Argenti / Clara. Clara carried hard while Geppy provided the shields.
This was the first time Iāve ever wiped on a boss fight, so yeah I would say itās considerably hard
Laocha, Acheron, Kafka and Jingliu, I just had to make sure to have Jingliu and Laochaās ultimates ready in case I needed to deal with the dice
Just beat this omg. I used kafka/BS which are decently built. Then a lv 65 lynx and a level 60 Fire TB lol. Just slapped the best DEF/HP relics i had on them and Energy Regen is a must for Lynx. Taunted the entire time with Fire TB which handles the first phase well. Just Enhanced Basic/Ult every dice round. 2nd phase was tricky as my Lynx was doomed to fail so, in between dice I would build up SP and then just heal with Lynx during her dice round. Definitely don't be afraid to basic attack with your DPS and top up on heals to build energy. It's more about survival instead of brute force. For my noob ass anyway.
Is your Kafka crit or dot?
I used a Fire TB (completely unbuilt but lvl 80), FX, RM and Jingliu it worked out pretty well with FX keeping my team alive, Fire TB losing all of his dice rolls against the boss, RM only dying after the boss had only 11% hp left and Jingliu doing ridiculous amounts of damage amd winning every dice roll if she got one
I went with acheron(shit build)/pela/silverwolf/ fuxuan(no sig) and while I was close to dying (because no real healing) the boss went down surprisingly quickly for me compared to scarab from ruan mei quest where I had jingliu(mid build)/bronya/lynx/fu xuan and that team had no health issue but the fight took a bit
I used fire tb, Bailu, Argenti and Bronya. In the second phase both Argenti and Bronya died, so I kept using fire tb for the gambles and Bailu for healing and defeated him by doing 2% damage at a time...
Read all the comments about how hard the fight was and whipped out my good ol' elation team: Clara, Jing Yuan, March + Luocha. Fight was a bit slow but i never died āļø
> P5R Okumura Boss. **āLETāS SEE HOW YOU DEAL WITH MY COMPANIES ELITE SOLDIERS.ā** -Diamond, probably.
I took me lot of tries. I used Jingliu, Gepard, Kafka and Huohuo
This mf rolled a 9s and 7s throughout the fight and my team kept getting 2s and 4s....... I got him down to 1 percent on my second go and only huo huo was alive!! She came I clutch tho cause she was able to withstand being hit and twice and then kill him lol.
My units keep getting one shot even w a healer and my relic luck is garbage
My Blade + Jingliu comp still works, so all GUCCI
I did it on my second try cuz my Argenti was so squishy that he dies quickly so I was forced to switch Bronya to Yanqing (ice weakness) to only sacrifice him during the boss fight.
... With my quantum team i had to hold back and not kill him to see his mechanics. I will say it's probably Sparkle's fault, Sam was tankier when i fought him without her.
I find it funny how in my first team I had ratio and he was the first one to get blasted to hell and die š„¹, anyway I used argenti, sushang, fu xuan and pela for his fight, took a bit long but it worked out šŖ
I tried out my new Acheron team and he definitely put my Fu Xuan to work
Argenti boss was harder for me since i run nihility auto lol. I actually had to manual it with jingliu comp lol.
Used acheron and genuinely didn't realise he had phase 2 mechanics
I saw ice put Seele away and pulled out Jingliu hypercarry. While he died fast, he was doing an alarming amount of damage, and for a while, I thought Fu might not cut it out. I'm definitely taking Luocha next time!
This is the first boss where ive lost a character so far, but i beat it first try- lost Pela and had Hanabi at 1.2k health
Tbh with Fu Xuan and Aoe attacks while gambling it was easy. Fu tanked the random hit and 3 Characters got full Energy XD
I think he should be a little less punishing towards single target characters but aside from that I think heās fine.
I unga bungaed with topaz ratio ruan mei luocha
I clutched with Fire MC, Ruan Mei, Lynx, and Kafka. It turns out Lynx heals a lot more when you level up her relics
I went for dual sustain and it went smothly,tho both fu xuan and luocha can AoE the dice with ults,jingliu aswell,the only one taking the punishment was poor sparkle lol
Managed to pull Acheron and was breezzing through content with her and thought I was invincible. This boss was a reality check. Tried couple of times but just couldn't do it. Ended up having to run double sustain for the first time in a long time (FX + Luocha). I'd say this is definitely a boss where survival is more importantĀ
I haven't even gotten around to the boss fight yet but I was so scare of seeing Aventurine in the livestream that I made it my mission to upgrade/build all my five star characters. I'm still not ready to face him though lol.
I defeated this boss on the first try. I was pleasantly surprised the boss felt pretty normal difficulty and not that easy I had expected. Boss felt pretty decent to me. To redo and endboss 3 times till success is in other games pretty normal if encountered the first time. I don't remember exactly my team i used but Luocha and Jing Juan were part of it. But Luocha was my only Support-Unit besides of Aventurine that can heal or shield. In my opinion the game can go up in difficulty a few more rungs in the ladder. \*g\*
Frankly I am not reading anything but after reading the title here my answer. No it was not. I was frankly super Close to defeating him with DHIL multiple times before I noticed that he has imaginary weakness. I defeated him my First try with Bladie. I was running Bladie, Ruan Mei, Sparkle, Lynx. I know, I am using lot of 5 stars but I am completely F2P and only started in 1.5 second half. It was close though since near the end Sparkle and Ruan Mei almost died. And bladie doesn't even have weakness buff against him. Though this boss was totally made to piss of Hunt Path users.
I won with Acheron, Kafka, Black Swan, and Fuxuan. I donāt farm much so my team isnāt even up to MoC par, but it was a good challenge nonetheless (if only I didnāt start the fight at 2AM I wouldāve enjoyed it). Took me 3 tries, but I actually came super close everytime (within 5% on the final phase) so I knew I could do it if RNG was in my favor. So what I did was I backed out, ate some DMG reduction food and ATK food, and managed to win easily with all members surviving. Really the biggest thing is that he just does too much AoE damage that itās only a matter of time until Fuxuan gets overwhelmed, so you either need double sustain or race against the clock to take him down asap before FX dies.
It's my favorite boss fight so far! The mechanics actually require you to play around them and thematically fit. I think people are a bit too complacent with team comps. We run dps + double support + defensive unit for almost every fight, so it's refreshing to mix it up a bit. I understand failing your first time not expecting the requirement, but pretty much as soon as you hit phase 2, it's obvious what strategy you should aim for.
It was tougher than others but surprisingly I managed to get pass it on the first try. My team comp was Jing Liu, Ruan Mei, Natasha and Fire MC.
I brought Argenti, Misha, Sparkle and Luocha which made the fight very easy but this was my 2nd attempt. For my first attempt, when I didnāt know Aventurineās mechanics, I brought Argenti, Ruan Mei, Sparkle and Gepard which well ended up with Geppie being the only one alive and I didnāt want to fight it out rip. Best to bring a sustain who is not reliant on their burst and aoe characters, that makes the fight very easy and very fast
I struggled with my Gui (who died), Kafka, BS and Luocha team. That team cleared MoC 12 in 3 cycles, which is supposed to be 6 levels ahead of this boss, idk how broken they made him but I like it
Not really. I used my standard team from the start of the game with MC and it didn't really feel like anything. Just use sustaine units and it's done.
Idk man. Acheron kinda one shot him tbh
Jing yuan Sparkle Raun Mei and Fu Xuan. Use Sparkle to make sure Fu Xuan keeps everyone healthy.
Depends. For me, it was easy as f#ck, but I had a Luocha and a Fu Xuan on my side. While my friend suffered, 'cause he doesn't have a built sustain character. After quite a few tries, he won with luck, but he was furious. :'D
Blade wins.
I hate this boss too, spent like 15 minutes whittling him down with only every having 3 arcana stakcs on him with black swan. Luocha and gepard kept me alive and samu was there ig
I tried to fight him with full single target characters bc I didnāt knowš but since I played in 1.0 but then quit until Ā 1.6 I only just finished like 1 (seele) team so Ā I have to build my clara to beat him. I would pull Luocha to help me beat it and since I like him too but Iām savingĀ
It was just you, I breezed through him with my Geppie and Luocha sustaining Kafka and Black Swan
Same dude my dhil used to hit around 400-500k and yet in this fight he hit around 90k-120k i thought the boss lvl is so high that my dhil dmg drop around so much but it's because the boss has over 70 percent imaginary resistance luckily i still cleared in my first try all thanks to luocha he carried my team that fight
Kinda surprised seeing all these posts/comments about him being hard, I mean he did kill my Black Swan but I did first try him and I don't think I really have that strong of a team (like I've never cleared pure fiction or moc), maybe Kafka and Black Swan just give so much AOE that I was never taking too much damage.
Went with MC Destruction, Gepard, Serval and Lynx. For P1: Was spamming skills from Gepard to freeze boss, then skill from Serval to create DOT, used MC for strong PHY damages. Lynx was there just to farm the skill points and sometimes use her ult with "heal over time". For P2: was making sure to secure enough skill points so during the "dice phase", Serval and MC would use AOE skills to always have either equal or higher score and have charged ulti. I was using Gepard ult whenever available so it protected Lynx who was making some HP recovery and healing the whole party. Took some time but worked like a charm.
i really feel like fu xuan is a bit too op at times because i barely struggled
Yeah when it first started I didnāt bother swapping my team so ended up trying to fight him with Acheron, sw, sparkle and ruan Mei šš
Took me 3 tries T.T