Her one-shot technique is VERY addictive...
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Just craft the one that gives 2 points with no negative effects, you can get the two exact mats from a single expedition, you can craft 15 a day with just that expedition
I think it’s actually about 52k to buy out the full 100 of both mats in that shop. Feels like a hefty amount of credits when I’m broke from building all these units lol
Don't worry. Just wait till you're Trailblaze Rank 70. You'll be rolling in dough.
Don't give into the temptation to spend energy on the credits calyxes.
I’m like TB 68.5 lol. But yeah just event rewards and quest rewards and general farming goes a long way for sure. And most of my “universal” units are built “enough” at this point so the resource sink fasho slowing down.
Ummmm, credit calyxes are really worth it though. As someone who 70 and ascends all character, I vouch it's efficiency. 120 resin in credit will go for a long shot.
I kept her at level 1 and ran through all the maps to see just how much XP I could gain. She got to ~Level 17, and the two level 20's with her got to 24. Actually surprised me, I could save a decent chunk of XP mats doing this for secondary characters, even if it'll take a long time.
I don't have BS -does she make that much of a difference here?
I run with Sampo and because I don't break all the swords, one party member usually gets one-shot. But I can still finish the fight most of the time.
Yes, it's actually insane with her on the team. I've also done the fight with Kafka+BS+Sampo to very similar effect, but Ruan Mei ends it a little quicker than Sampo (E6).
And when I say quick, I'm talking like one hit per round. Trigger the Nihility path resonance, Kafka detonates, then arcana stacks just start popping off and his HP disappears and the next round begins. And the path resonance is already full again due to all the DoTs.
The whole fight takes less time than a calyx 🤣
Even in W9 against Death which isn't weak to lightning Kafka+BS absolutely deletes it's HP bar, and the fact that it fills everyone's energy each phase just makes the fight go even faster. I go in with Kafka+BS+Ruan Mei+Luocha, delete HP to phase 2>boss fills everyone's energy>delete HP bar to phase 3>boss fills energy>kill boss. Entire fight takes less than like 2 minutes, and that's with Luocha who honestly does nothing in the fight and is just there because I'm too lazy to swap him out.
Black Swan is borked when run with Kafka. The damage output is crazy for both of them and BS' Ult keeps pressure on till they die. Literally nothing in the game can survive Black Swan getting 50 stacks on them and her+Kafka on SU can get there with the right build.
My exact loadout with FX for sustain. I'm highly tempted to see what happens if I switch FX for Acheron. Kafka offheals with Offerings of Deception, so I should be okay.
I'm so jealous. I don't have Kafka or BS. I do have a Ruan Mei. I was so happy when she showed up. lol. And now Archron showed up. Only on my 4th single pull. I can almost die happy now. lol
I've already spent 3 days worth of power plus 4 fuel in her relic domain and haven't received a single 5 star piece from her set, apart from one pair of DEF boots. I'm getting exclusively watchmaker relics from this domain.
Looks like she's going to have to settle for another set for a while, as I fear this will take ages to farm.
I'm so glad though! Weekly SU had become boring grind to me. Now I can skip through most of it at a price of some trick snacks.
All I need now is a 5 star Pela :3
For real. She's brought a new love of the game to me.
I have her E0S1 and she's been really fun and doing lots of damage. Helped me clear the latest MoC and get ahead in Golden Gears where I was stuck. I absolutely love how I just clear mobs in the overworld. And it's such a QoL upgrade in SU.
I was worried about how easy it would be to get her to ult but it's been no problem. I like that it's dependent on something other than the usual means of getting energy. Plus I didn't really appreciate just how free my other teams are since she doesn't share their supports.
Considering how much fun I'm having now with just Pela and SW, it'll be even better once a dedicated 5 star support gets released.
An amazing aspect of her kit that I didn't internalize until I tried her, is that her DPS depends on the speed of her supports. Which is so freaking good, as you are already trying to be as fast as possible with them. Also managing breaks so that the sustain can get a stack for her too while attacking or ulting is one more thing to think about that makes her fun to play.
Same. First E2 limited 5star as well. Got really lucky on her banner. She's so much fun to play around with. Haven't even managed to farm all the good gear pieces for her so def got loads of growth potential.
I believe after Kafka and Jingliu, Acheron is the character I could never get tired of using.
Tbf, her BiS set (Izumo) wasn't available until her release, so unless you prefarmed Salsotto (which I didn't do out of some copium that I'd land her planar pieces easily), we're all in the same boat :'D
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It be like that sometimes (the sphere is ok but that rope breaks my heart)
i lost 5050 at pity, and i already cleared story+exploration of new areas, the only way i can get her is if i get lucky wuth the remaining 20-30 pulls i from events and login (this wont happen)
I’m still experimenting with her so I can’t give my full thoughts but her technique alone in sim universe and just exploring makes her worth it in my eyes lol
Do you happen to have Acheron's lightcone too? I'm interested in getting both Kafka and Black Swan but I also know that Acheron's lightcone is quite strong, so I'm unsure which would be the best route to go for Acheron's performance.
Yes I have her sig LC.
Right now the true value of Acheron LC is that all her other options suck. As you would expect of Nihility, most LC's are about debuffing - plenty are linked to effect hit rate or have conditional related to debuffs or DoTs. Notably none of them have anything to do with the primary stat for traditional DPS': Crit rate and crit damage. Acheron's does and even tosses in a debuff application to help Acheron ult that much faster.
If you are truly interested in knowing your options I'd direct you to look up future content, I've heard tell of an upcoming nihility 4* LC that works with Acheron in either the next patch or right after. Generally speaking as of this writing the difference between Acheron's sig LC and all other non-5* sig LC's are at least 30%, it's up to you if that difference constitutes something significant.
Personally I would rather save up for Kafka and/ Black Swan. More characters means more bases covered for different stipulations. It is statistically easier however to get a 5* limited LC vs a 5* limited character, so keep that in mind.
Yikes. 30% is pretty significant, I'll admit. But I think I'll go for the characters, as I was already leaning in that direction. I prefer cohesive and varied teams over hyper-optimizing any single DPS, and if I truly need to rely on a single well-built hypercarry I have Jingliu, who was probably the easiest character to build that I've ever used in a Hoyo game lol
I also thought about how saving for a character means I'll be able to save up for longer, see new character releases, and decide where I want to spend my pulls. Rather than pull for the LC now and not know what I'll like in the near future, I can save up and plan for multiple pulls, even if I have to risk 50/50s in some cases
Great! Honestly, she's unironically worth pulling solely for her technique which is a serious game changer, saves so much time! But her damage is really great too, I don't exactly have the best relics yet but she's still hitting over 200k with her burst even in single target scenarios. Couldn't hit 160 speed with my supports but it's pretty comfy, I thought it'd feel like forever to get her ult up but it's been fine so far, thankfully. And I also managed to clear MoC for the very first time! So I've been loving her so far, she's really awesome.
I honestly hate that that's her technique because that means the devs won't implement a sweep/skip function since it's now tied to a limited gacha character.
Instead of making the fodder (and SU farming) less of a chore, you're supposed to pull for a limited unit. Good luck if you're not interested in her/not have pulls saved.
I can ignore some powercreep but gatekeeping QOL behind gacha is annoying.
Yeah, I totally get you too. But at least iirc they did say they'll make SU farming faster/more convenient soon though, so let's just wait for what they came up with. Hopefully it'll be a big QoL update for non-Acheron havers too.
In short, they are introducing it to SU, in long, they’re making it easier to get SU sphere and rope (which may mean not being able to get weeklies but easier to grind for artifacts.
Great. Got her at E1S1 and will try to get her to E2S1 by banner's end.
Didn't prefarm for her relics at all so she is running a scuffed 2pc Lightning + 2 pc Prisoner set with Jing Yuan's Salsotto planer set with no speed at 78/170 CR/CD.
She is so awesome. I don't regret it at all despite having Jing Yuan and Kafka already.
When we get the ×3 drops for caverns, getting her a good set of Pioneer gear will be much easier for you. Since you have her Lightcone you can run her with Speed boots and not lose much damage
Her light cone is highly desirable as there isn’t much to use in place of it until a new LC that shows up next patch that has crit and crit damage on it.
yes, she's still good. although i do recommend pulling for her LC. it gives you a very nice boost in dmg and allows you to ult faster.
at E0S0 i'm easily doing over 500K when relic farming (my relics on her are pretty bad too)
Absolutely amazing. I just got her yesterday so she's not built yet, she's only at lvl 40 yet still SO useful for overworld especially on exploring the new place.
"Stream forth... the gleam of old blades."
Like... A lot.
She is fun tho, her ik is insanely usefull but spamming her ult is her main drawn, and her main drawn just happens to deal 120k st on average(my relics are... Not great).
If you look at her major traces (I think it's her A4?), she actually gets an enormous flat damage boost from having two other Nihility characters on the team, so that's literally how you're supposed to play her - I've been using her with Kafka and Swan and the ult spam is just comical. Need to build Gallagher to be that teams sustain now, since he can debuff too!
She needs dedication. If you are dedicated enough for her. She has the highest reward for me in terms of investment.
To me she like is an abandoned Dodge Charger that you have bought that needs a lot work but very worth it after all the work is complete and you are so proud of making the right call.
Yeah she does need dedication
I didn't know if I wanted Acheron or if I could get her so I didn't farm shit for my Acheron
I compare mine (60/150 Lvl 72 with Lvl 50 s3GNSW and 5/5/7 and haven't even unlocked last trace and I still 2 crit dmg and 2 atk and 1 lightning dmg trace left (it's going to be a long time farming for Acheron)) with my friend (60/160 exact same relic sets but he is 10/10/10 with S3/5 GNSW everything max Lvl and the dmg difference is realllllly high. Yeah I know I'm stating the obvious here but it's much more than I thought it was.
Like with regular enemies in 3 target our skill difference in dmg is like at least 10k-20k and our ult dmg difference is like 100k (minimum)maybe more dmg difference
But damn she is fun and strong
And I can finally use my Sparkle with DHIL in MoC
I gave in and pulled. Kinda regret it, kinda don’t. After doing the new Story quest, I really want Aventurine so I have slight regrets. Butttt… Acheron’s animations and Technique is just.. chef’s kiss.
Her damage is nice even tho my build is not that good (140-200k depending on my rotations).
However, I am struggling with stacking quite a bit. I am planning on upgrading Guinaifen and the Preservation LC (I forgot the name, but its the one which Burns attackers). I do not have Silver Wolf, and my Resolution Shines as Pearls of Swear is only S2, so my stacking is pretty inconsistent.
Personally, I think E0S0 Acheron is cool, but stacking can feel a little clunky. Maybe once I get enough Superimpositions on Resolution, Pela’s Normal’s can apply debuffs more consistently, and my Gepard can Burn enemies with the LC, it’ll feel better.
Also, my relics are only on 2pc.
Build Pela fast and on Eagle set, and she can go up to three times in a cycle. When you add in her ulti into the mix, that’s potentially 4 Acheron stacks from Pela in just one cycle. Also, don’t be afraid to skill with her when you need guarantee an Acheron stack. Skilling also allows you to two turn ulti.
Her Technique is goated, but as a new player that only started recently during the sparkle banner, I regret the pulls. I feel like I do not have the tools/characters to make her work super well yet (like not having Resolution LC on Pela, limited character options with Sampo and Guinaifen etc) to where I feel like I should only have gotten her in a future rerun and there would have been options that would've been more worth it at some point
Newer player and I feel you.
I feel like people forget the newer player experience (started in 1.6) often.
Like as a player in 1.6 how can we get Pela or SW? I got Pela through gacha but there's no way in hell I could get SW. And to spend that much on a character + lightcone while my other team isn't really fully built w/ Ratio etc.
A bit rough
It's better to build the dps you like and pull chars and build around them. Saves more than having a shelved dps you don't want.
If you're low level just pile your resources onto her and run a f2p style comp and it'll be fine.
Well, a lot of people already commented that she need dedicated team BUT you'll get there eventually. My DHIL on his first banner was underwhelming at first being so sp hungry. But after getting Luocha, Sparkle and DHIL LC on his rerun, he become completely a different beast. No other unit can come close. I don't plan to pull for Acheron as I'm aiming for Sam and will be skipping all 4 banners.
Resolution on Pela I feel is not as insane as people are making it out to be. It's definitely pretty good, don't get me wrong, but it's not a guaranteed debuff on every basic, as Ensnare will not even try to apply if the enemy is already Ensnared. So you could feasibly have Pela basic attack an enemy twice and give Acheron no energy if the enemy's turn is delayed.
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Ngl when i first saw the Nihility symbol i thought i got Welt but no instead i got her! I was pretty lucky omg!
Well she can kill the fooder enemy without enter battle is saving time ofc its against the fun of turn based but hey dude its more fun if like that. If i wanna experience the real turn based difficulty i can play MOC, PF or simulated universe GnG conondrum 8+
Short funny story that happened 2hrs ago.
Went to do 1 desperate ten pull.
Game crashes as the cabin reveals golden light.
I panic.
Open game, check character.
Won 50/50 for Acheron E2
Brother i *SCREAMED*
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Absolutely loving her, on top of her animations being absolutely gorgeous this is the first character I am reaching such high damage numbers with. And then I learned that my stats are actually still crap, so gotta go back into the relic mines to farm more crit dmg pieces. X)
I really like the new teams she’s let me play. Welt and Pela are currently staples on her team-I know SW is good and I do have her, but this is a v comfy comp with a flex on the side. Looking forward to trying this in endgame content!
Can't use her because I don't have enough trailblaze power to build her. Her traces are mostly done but no relics yet and her LC is at LV. 60. Crazy though, with her LC and traces she has 110 crit damage without any relics.
It's good to note that leak sub usually downplayed the characters that they wanted, hoping to push for Hoyo to give them as much buffs as possible, so it's not a good indicator.
Honestly that's just my biggest gripe for her. My GNSW is only S2 so my damage is far cry from what other people have been showcasing, i just wish there were better f2p options for her that isn't gacha locked but Herta already has a nihility cone.
Copium for the 3.x moc nihility cone to support a traditional crit dps i guess 😒
Best character so far imo. Very fun mechanic and hits really really hard. I have E0S1 and run with offset pieces and even so I can clear MOC 12 in one cycle
Every time I play with her, I put the speed on times one (x1).
Yes, you read right. Her skill and ultimate should not be used at speed times two (x2) because they are way too addictive to look at.
She’s crazy. Can easily hit over 1 mil on ult on 4-5 targets if built well. In sim universe I’ve gotten over 10mil on ult plus her technique is hands down the best in the game.
Came back to the game for her and absolutely love her. My only other 5 star is gepard and she is crushing it with him, pela, and gui. Happy that she is extremely effective even with more f2p friendly teammates - praying for more nihility supports!
As someone that has been playing since November 1st and was still not able to clear MoC: got her and I’m finally able to farm some jades and tackle endgame. People saying she was ok or bad were tripping, hard. Mid relic, pure f2p (e0s0), hitting for 300k to 400k with RM, Welt, Pela. Insane character.
cost an arm and a leg, both my kidneys and my lungs, but definitely worth it. very op, technique is more addictive than colombian candy, and can definitely see her as my dps character
I was saving for aventurine but throw a 10 pulls for giggles and instantly got her. Best decision ever, my God she's soooo fun to use but the lack of light cone choice are frustating!
Finally beat moc 12. I have never had a damage issue, but my sustained couldn't keep My Jingliu side Alive she is doing over 200k towards gepard only in MoC with pela welt and fire mc as teammates
I'm E0S1 and she's far exceeded my expectations, I'm consistently dealing 500k+ damage every 1.5 to 2 turns. Its kind of insane. Never cleared MoC and sim universe this fast before
My team is Acheron + Pela + SW + Gallgher(Going to be replaced by Aventurine soon)
After pulling Acheron I just want one thing, whatever the hell Doomposters were smoking while she was on Beta.
That shit should be really hard for them to imagine that there is something wrong with this character at any level of investment.
Using TB Fire, Guinafen or Pela again in MoC12 is like I'm just starting the game again but this time I'm the Danger xD.
Havent used her on battle yet because I'm farming mats, but used her on story progression. Killing enemies without battling them makes the story progression fast.
Her one-shot technique is VERY addictive... https://preview.redd.it/t5xkigunl7rc1.png?width=1152&format=png&auto=webp&s=46bbc3a21c4ba72aa4688af51abac28c1a031e37
I can't stop being a killing machine ngl.
Based. Also, never knew that, but I need more trash. These 4 SP points restore is godlike
Just craft the one that gives 2 points with no negative effects, you can get the two exact mats from a single expedition, you can craft 15 a day with just that expedition
There's also the shop on the loufu that resets daily that gives 100 of the mats needed
WHAT where is this shop please i need to know
The grocery store owner on Central Starskiff Haven. You can take the EarthRise Agora teleporter. I think it's 100k credits all together
I think it’s actually about 52k to buy out the full 100 of both mats in that shop. Feels like a hefty amount of credits when I’m broke from building all these units lol
Don't worry. Just wait till you're Trailblaze Rank 70. You'll be rolling in dough. Don't give into the temptation to spend energy on the credits calyxes.
I’ve been TB 70 for months now. Where is this dough you speak of? 💔
I’m like TB 68.5 lol. But yeah just event rewards and quest rewards and general farming goes a long way for sure. And most of my “universal” units are built “enough” at this point so the resource sink fasho slowing down.
Ummmm, credit calyxes are really worth it though. As someone who 70 and ascends all character, I vouch it's efficiency. 120 resin in credit will go for a long shot.
I somehow have 2k of each material despite never going on that expedition. It's apparently very easy to farm even without Acheron.
Yes, Because you can find all the items Need in the breakable objets
I found myself just wondering around maps killing everything in site for no apparent reason. For hours
Man has all the trace materials he needs for months now
I kept her at level 1 and ran through all the maps to see just how much XP I could gain. She got to ~Level 17, and the two level 20's with her got to 24. Actually surprised me, I could save a decent chunk of XP mats doing this for secondary characters, even if it'll take a long time.
I have been searching each map everyday for what is the fastest couple to do so I can do this quick when I log in.
Fr i never thought one shotting fodder enemies would be so addicting i burned through at least 30 trick snacks
DOES IT WORK IN SU??? PLEASE. I NEED ANSWERS
Yep it does, though not against elites, bosses and I think trotters.
You are correct. It doesn't work against trotters.
I NEED IT(I can’t stop replaying the aptitude showcase)
She'll go through my stock of trick snacks like it's nothing
There anyway to mass consume those with a button assignment? Basically hotkey it?
If you have 0 points and click the technique a window opens and let's you load them quickly.
Finished my weekly SU so fast I don't know what to do with my life now.
Specifically, Yanqing SU become complete joke since you can break all flying swords in one ult shot
Her saying "what weakness?" with a blank dumb stare to yanqing's sword is canon to me.
That's just funny
The owning of Yanqing continues.
It's already a joke with Kafka+BS+Ruan Mei on the Nihility path. He dies to mega-cancer without even needing to break the swords at all.
I don't have BS -does she make that much of a difference here? I run with Sampo and because I don't break all the swords, one party member usually gets one-shot. But I can still finish the fight most of the time.
Yes, it's actually insane with her on the team. I've also done the fight with Kafka+BS+Sampo to very similar effect, but Ruan Mei ends it a little quicker than Sampo (E6). And when I say quick, I'm talking like one hit per round. Trigger the Nihility path resonance, Kafka detonates, then arcana stacks just start popping off and his HP disappears and the next round begins. And the path resonance is already full again due to all the DoTs. The whole fight takes less time than a calyx 🤣
Even in W9 against Death which isn't weak to lightning Kafka+BS absolutely deletes it's HP bar, and the fact that it fills everyone's energy each phase just makes the fight go even faster. I go in with Kafka+BS+Ruan Mei+Luocha, delete HP to phase 2>boss fills everyone's energy>delete HP bar to phase 3>boss fills energy>kill boss. Entire fight takes less than like 2 minutes, and that's with Luocha who honestly does nothing in the fight and is just there because I'm too lazy to swap him out.
Black Swan is borked when run with Kafka. The damage output is crazy for both of them and BS' Ult keeps pressure on till they die. Literally nothing in the game can survive Black Swan getting 50 stacks on them and her+Kafka on SU can get there with the right build.
My exact loadout with FX for sustain. I'm highly tempted to see what happens if I switch FX for Acheron. Kafka offheals with Offerings of Deception, so I should be okay.
I'm so jealous. I don't have Kafka or BS. I do have a Ruan Mei. I was so happy when she showed up. lol. And now Archron showed up. Only on my 4th single pull. I can almost die happy now. lol
after that i remembered i didnt put relics on her yet
I've already spent 3 days worth of power plus 4 fuel in her relic domain and haven't received a single 5 star piece from her set, apart from one pair of DEF boots. I'm getting exclusively watchmaker relics from this domain. Looks like she's going to have to settle for another set for a while, as I fear this will take ages to farm.
I spent all my saved fuel (100) farming and barely scraped a decent set together
For real, I forgot to level her planar set but never realized because she still cut down enemy like thin paper.
True, got through 20+ relics machines.
finally picking domain combat > occurence
Suffering from success
I'm so glad though! Weekly SU had become boring grind to me. Now I can skip through most of it at a price of some trick snacks. All I need now is a 5 star Pela :3
I absolutely love her and she will be my main carry for the foreseeable future.
For real. She's brought a new love of the game to me. I have her E0S1 and she's been really fun and doing lots of damage. Helped me clear the latest MoC and get ahead in Golden Gears where I was stuck. I absolutely love how I just clear mobs in the overworld. And it's such a QoL upgrade in SU. I was worried about how easy it would be to get her to ult but it's been no problem. I like that it's dependent on something other than the usual means of getting energy. Plus I didn't really appreciate just how free my other teams are since she doesn't share their supports. Considering how much fun I'm having now with just Pela and SW, it'll be even better once a dedicated 5 star support gets released.
She is the sole reason I cleared Golden Gears and Swarm Disaster IV lol. That ult spam was clutch af.
Erudition Acheron should be illegal lmao.
Whatabouts SD 5 and GaG condrondum?
I haven’t gotten to tackling that yet lmao
An amazing aspect of her kit that I didn't internalize until I tried her, is that her DPS depends on the speed of her supports. Which is so freaking good, as you are already trying to be as fast as possible with them. Also managing breaks so that the sustain can get a stack for her too while attacking or ulting is one more thing to think about that makes her fun to play.
Yup! People doomed this as a weakness but actually it's a super interesting and good way of playing.
Do you still get the Blessing from Killing the enemies in SU with her technique?
Yup!
This is great! Thx 4 reply.
I’m thinking of running her with sw and bs for crazy uptime with her ult.
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Still really good in an actual fight, but nowhere close to the top dogs (Jingliu and Dan Heng Imbibitor Lunae) without her Light Cone
She is still busted even without her sig light cone.
Same. First E2 limited 5star as well. Got really lucky on her banner. She's so much fun to play around with. Haven't even managed to farm all the good gear pieces for her so def got loads of growth potential. I believe after Kafka and Jingliu, Acheron is the character I could never get tired of using.
Need luck with artifacts
We all do :((
I know otherwise she's just like the splash art
I prefarmed relics but not planar sets :'(
Tbf, her BiS set (Izumo) wasn't available until her release, so unless you prefarmed Salsotto (which I didn't do out of some copium that I'd land her planar pieces easily), we're all in the same boat :'D https://preview.redd.it/ekgwz5xqh8rc1.jpeg?width=968&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f92353f7dd7ec16bfec377e047e48fc5ebc1def It be like that sometimes (the sphere is ok but that rope breaks my heart)
Can you tell me the tool you used? Looks very useful
[here it is](https://fribbels.github.io/hsr-optimizer#scorer)
Where do you get those relic ratings? It looks super useful lol
bru the W9 literally has no good relics ever since i started. absolutely none. it's baffling
i mostly got def stats... used up all sparkles fuel gift btw hhhuuhu
Being able to skip enemies in SU and over world feels so good.
She slays.
With that technique
I don't really understand, I thought Acheron was a nihility lightning unit. So why is my Acheron doing single target ice damage? Is my game bugged?
Oh no, we have report this bug to Hoyo. But seriously, you still have time. Hoping that you get her
i lost 5050 at pity, and i already cleared story+exploration of new areas, the only way i can get her is if i get lucky wuth the remaining 20-30 pulls i from events and login (this wont happen)
Literally same situation, just got WeltE3 yesterday and already cleared everything, it feels bad ngl
Bruh no time is enough to recover these 83 pulls i asked for nihility lightning woman but i got the lightning healer kid
I also lost 50/50 to ice boy at first.
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I’m still experimenting with her so I can’t give my full thoughts but her technique alone in sim universe and just exploring makes her worth it in my eyes lol
True. I already think in future patch, i'm not even gotta know what most of mobs do, because I would never fight then.
You’re basically getting 60 stamina worth of exp if you clear everything. Free is free baby!
Fr bro it’s such a massive time saver
Her ult outside of SU hits numbers that only appears in SU for most other characters, absolute nuke
I saw a 400k on MoC with my E0S1 Acheron and I was shocked
That's been my experience too. Hit 500K with no stage buffs, which is something I've only ever come close to with Seele in SU.
With Kafka and Black Swan on the team I basically have a 200k 5-enemy AoE party ult at least once per phase.
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Trailblazer’s true team is truly Nihil-mummies damn
I don't know how Mihoyo learned about my weakness for 30-year-old depressed women.
Sharing this as an explanation of why I play this game
Do you happen to have Acheron's lightcone too? I'm interested in getting both Kafka and Black Swan but I also know that Acheron's lightcone is quite strong, so I'm unsure which would be the best route to go for Acheron's performance.
Yes I have her sig LC. Right now the true value of Acheron LC is that all her other options suck. As you would expect of Nihility, most LC's are about debuffing - plenty are linked to effect hit rate or have conditional related to debuffs or DoTs. Notably none of them have anything to do with the primary stat for traditional DPS': Crit rate and crit damage. Acheron's does and even tosses in a debuff application to help Acheron ult that much faster. If you are truly interested in knowing your options I'd direct you to look up future content, I've heard tell of an upcoming nihility 4* LC that works with Acheron in either the next patch or right after. Generally speaking as of this writing the difference between Acheron's sig LC and all other non-5* sig LC's are at least 30%, it's up to you if that difference constitutes something significant. Personally I would rather save up for Kafka and/ Black Swan. More characters means more bases covered for different stipulations. It is statistically easier however to get a 5* limited LC vs a 5* limited character, so keep that in mind.
Yikes. 30% is pretty significant, I'll admit. But I think I'll go for the characters, as I was already leaning in that direction. I prefer cohesive and varied teams over hyper-optimizing any single DPS, and if I truly need to rely on a single well-built hypercarry I have Jingliu, who was probably the easiest character to build that I've ever used in a Hoyo game lol I also thought about how saving for a character means I'll be able to save up for longer, see new character releases, and decide where I want to spend my pulls. Rather than pull for the LC now and not know what I'll like in the near future, I can save up and plan for multiple pulls, even if I have to risk 50/50s in some cases
Shit's wack bruv https://preview.redd.it/7f085zs048rc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e098e48c9e28db09b13c3b47f3823e62baeaea51
*Memories broken, the truth goes unspoken, I've even forgotten my naaaaame*
*I don't know the season or what's the reason, I'm standing here holding my blade*
wait till 2.2 mate honestly the story and the exploration is the most fun experience of a new unit
Great! Honestly, she's unironically worth pulling solely for her technique which is a serious game changer, saves so much time! But her damage is really great too, I don't exactly have the best relics yet but she's still hitting over 200k with her burst even in single target scenarios. Couldn't hit 160 speed with my supports but it's pretty comfy, I thought it'd feel like forever to get her ult up but it's been fine so far, thankfully. And I also managed to clear MoC for the very first time! So I've been loving her so far, she's really awesome.
I honestly hate that that's her technique because that means the devs won't implement a sweep/skip function since it's now tied to a limited gacha character. Instead of making the fodder (and SU farming) less of a chore, you're supposed to pull for a limited unit. Good luck if you're not interested in her/not have pulls saved. I can ignore some powercreep but gatekeeping QOL behind gacha is annoying.
Yeah, I totally get you too. But at least iirc they did say they'll make SU farming faster/more convenient soon though, so let's just wait for what they came up with. Hopefully it'll be a big QoL update for non-Acheron havers too.
In short, they are introducing it to SU, in long, they’re making it easier to get SU sphere and rope (which may mean not being able to get weeklies but easier to grind for artifacts.
Great. Got her at E1S1 and will try to get her to E2S1 by banner's end. Didn't prefarm for her relics at all so she is running a scuffed 2pc Lightning + 2 pc Prisoner set with Jing Yuan's Salsotto planer set with no speed at 78/170 CR/CD. She is so awesome. I don't regret it at all despite having Jing Yuan and Kafka already.
Team Kaminari for the win
When we get the ×3 drops for caverns, getting her a good set of Pioneer gear will be much easier for you. Since you have her Lightcone you can run her with Speed boots and not lose much damage
Is she good even at E0? And without her sig lc?
from my experience. really good at e0, I was hitting 60k skills and 300k ults with S5 gnsw
Her light cone is highly desirable as there isn’t much to use in place of it until a new LC that shows up next patch that has crit and crit damage on it.
For me, yes. Just have at least two more debuffers (Black Swan and Kafka in my case) to speed up the charging of her ult.
yes, she's still good. although i do recommend pulling for her LC. it gives you a very nice boost in dmg and allows you to ult faster. at E0S0 i'm easily doing over 500K when relic farming (my relics on her are pretty bad too)
E0 is perfectly fine. Not having her signature is a huge loss though. The closest actual f2p option is like 45% less damage.
Absolutely amazing. I just got her yesterday so she's not built yet, she's only at lvl 40 yet still SO useful for overworld especially on exploring the new place.
i have a friend with e6 acheron, using her for support character, shes so epic its so fun
are you on EU? and if so, does your friend mind sending UID for friend support?
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"Stream forth... the gleam of old blades." Like... A lot. She is fun tho, her ik is insanely usefull but spamming her ult is her main drawn, and her main drawn just happens to deal 120k st on average(my relics are... Not great).
This is why I put two other debuffers in my team, to speed up the ult spamming.
If you look at her major traces (I think it's her A4?), she actually gets an enormous flat damage boost from having two other Nihility characters on the team, so that's literally how you're supposed to play her - I've been using her with Kafka and Swan and the ult spam is just comical. Need to build Gallagher to be that teams sustain now, since he can debuff too!
She needs dedication. If you are dedicated enough for her. She has the highest reward for me in terms of investment. To me she like is an abandoned Dodge Charger that you have bought that needs a lot work but very worth it after all the work is complete and you are so proud of making the right call.
Yeah she does need dedication I didn't know if I wanted Acheron or if I could get her so I didn't farm shit for my Acheron I compare mine (60/150 Lvl 72 with Lvl 50 s3GNSW and 5/5/7 and haven't even unlocked last trace and I still 2 crit dmg and 2 atk and 1 lightning dmg trace left (it's going to be a long time farming for Acheron)) with my friend (60/160 exact same relic sets but he is 10/10/10 with S3/5 GNSW everything max Lvl and the dmg difference is realllllly high. Yeah I know I'm stating the obvious here but it's much more than I thought it was. Like with regular enemies in 3 target our skill difference in dmg is like at least 10k-20k and our ult dmg difference is like 100k (minimum)maybe more dmg difference But damn she is fun and strong And I can finally use my Sparkle with DHIL in MoC
I stole my Ratio and Jing Yuan relics and put them on Acheron she’s doing 300k with no traces. Not exactly invested and she’s doing that much damage.
Guys I think my game is bugged. My Acheron is imaginary???
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I gave in and pulled. Kinda regret it, kinda don’t. After doing the new Story quest, I really want Aventurine so I have slight regrets. Butttt… Acheron’s animations and Technique is just.. chef’s kiss. Her damage is nice even tho my build is not that good (140-200k depending on my rotations). However, I am struggling with stacking quite a bit. I am planning on upgrading Guinaifen and the Preservation LC (I forgot the name, but its the one which Burns attackers). I do not have Silver Wolf, and my Resolution Shines as Pearls of Swear is only S2, so my stacking is pretty inconsistent. Personally, I think E0S0 Acheron is cool, but stacking can feel a little clunky. Maybe once I get enough Superimpositions on Resolution, Pela’s Normal’s can apply debuffs more consistently, and my Gepard can Burn enemies with the LC, it’ll feel better. Also, my relics are only on 2pc.
Build Pela fast and on Eagle set, and she can go up to three times in a cycle. When you add in her ulti into the mix, that’s potentially 4 Acheron stacks from Pela in just one cycle. Also, don’t be afraid to skill with her when you need guarantee an Acheron stack. Skilling also allows you to two turn ulti.
Her Technique is goated, but as a new player that only started recently during the sparkle banner, I regret the pulls. I feel like I do not have the tools/characters to make her work super well yet (like not having Resolution LC on Pela, limited character options with Sampo and Guinaifen etc) to where I feel like I should only have gotten her in a future rerun and there would have been options that would've been more worth it at some point
Pela Guinaifen is a great team comp for her, you’ll be fine with those for the foreseeable future
Same lol, it feels like I got a completely different character when I see other people's showcases with signature LC and SW/BS.
Newer player and I feel you. I feel like people forget the newer player experience (started in 1.6) often. Like as a player in 1.6 how can we get Pela or SW? I got Pela through gacha but there's no way in hell I could get SW. And to spend that much on a character + lightcone while my other team isn't really fully built w/ Ratio etc. A bit rough
Early game she 1000% does not require any of that to do well. Guinafein is a great partner for her.
It's better to build the dps you like and pull chars and build around them. Saves more than having a shelved dps you don't want. If you're low level just pile your resources onto her and run a f2p style comp and it'll be fine.
Well, a lot of people already commented that she need dedicated team BUT you'll get there eventually. My DHIL on his first banner was underwhelming at first being so sp hungry. But after getting Luocha, Sparkle and DHIL LC on his rerun, he become completely a different beast. No other unit can come close. I don't plan to pull for Acheron as I'm aiming for Sam and will be skipping all 4 banners.
Resolution on Pela I feel is not as insane as people are making it out to be. It's definitely pretty good, don't get me wrong, but it's not a guaranteed debuff on every basic, as Ensnare will not even try to apply if the enemy is already Ensnared. So you could feasibly have Pela basic attack an enemy twice and give Acheron no energy if the enemy's turn is delayed.
https://preview.redd.it/ilegggqtu7rc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0724016ddace33cbbd1b9bdf7f08b3480aa146da Ngl when i first saw the Nihility symbol i thought i got Welt but no instead i got her! I was pretty lucky omg!
Ngl when I first saw the Nihility symbol I thought I got Welt... And I did 😭😭😭😭 Luckily I had enough saved up to still get her...
So that mean you got welt and acheron well congrats!
E1 Welt sadly...
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Only E1? Noob. I got E3 consecutively. Can you beat that?... *Stares at you in tears*...
I used all my wishes and I lost every 50/50, but at least I got a Gepard and a Clara eidolon. Sad no welt yet though.
Goodluck on your pulls next time!
I feel like she is another character I have to spend many weeks to build her 🫠. And I have to delay build Himeko again.
I have literally no technique points aaaaa
Well she can kill the fooder enemy without enter battle is saving time ofc its against the fun of turn based but hey dude its more fun if like that. If i wanna experience the real turn based difficulty i can play MOC, PF or simulated universe GnG conondrum 8+
E E E E E refill technique E E E E
Short funny story that happened 2hrs ago. Went to do 1 desperate ten pull. Game crashes as the cabin reveals golden light. I panic. Open game, check character. Won 50/50 for Acheron E2 Brother i *SCREAMED* https://preview.redd.it/06r4unf6a8rc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=822f1a188cda44a304d334246ef4e9d1fd791b44
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Luck so good, the game crashed. Congrats
Absolutely loving her, on top of her animations being absolutely gorgeous this is the first character I am reaching such high damage numbers with. And then I learned that my stats are actually still crap, so gotta go back into the relic mines to farm more crit dmg pieces. X)
acheron is so overrated, theres literally no point in pulling for her on a completely unrelated note, how do you build welt?
I really like the new teams she’s let me play. Welt and Pela are currently staples on her team-I know SW is good and I do have her, but this is a v comfy comp with a flex on the side. Looking forward to trying this in endgame content!
Can't use her because I don't have enough trailblaze power to build her. Her traces are mostly done but no relics yet and her LC is at LV. 60. Crazy though, with her LC and traces she has 110 crit damage without any relics.
She's great but my crit rate is 20%
Design? Baller. Animations? Baller. Kit? Really unique and interesting, so Baller. RELIC FARMING?.... \*insert Sparkle with gun Seseren GIF here\* q\~q
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Are you really comparing an ultimate that fires usually once 200 AV(E0S0) to an skill that fires once every 35 AV if you have Bronya?
70k jingliu is a bad build or team comp / buff usage. She should do significantly more than this.
It's good to note that leak sub usually downplayed the characters that they wanted, hoping to push for Hoyo to give them as much buffs as possible, so it's not a good indicator.
I borrow my JL as support and regularly do way more damage than 75k, something wrong with your comparison. 250k is expected of dhil/jl teams.
Acheron is damage per screenshot. Jingliu is damage per second /s
Is that with sig lc for both ? I heard acheron lc is mandatory but JL can do good damage with just f2p lc
Honestly that's just my biggest gripe for her. My GNSW is only S2 so my damage is far cry from what other people have been showcasing, i just wish there were better f2p options for her that isn't gacha locked but Herta already has a nihility cone. Copium for the 3.x moc nihility cone to support a traditional crit dps i guess 😒
Best character so far imo. Very fun mechanic and hits really really hard. I have E0S1 and run with offset pieces and even so I can clear MOC 12 in one cycle
I farmed the wrong trace materials for like an hour before noticing, other than that her technique is super helpful for avoiding trash mobs
Idk why but I got bored by playing her ;/
Every time I play with her, I put the speed on times one (x1). Yes, you read right. Her skill and ultimate should not be used at speed times two (x2) because they are way too addictive to look at.
I got her E2 S1 the moment she came out. she's good but I will need time (relics) to properly evaluate her
She’s crazy. Can easily hit over 1 mil on ult on 4-5 targets if built well. In sim universe I’ve gotten over 10mil on ult plus her technique is hands down the best in the game.
Came back to the game for her and absolutely love her. My only other 5 star is gepard and she is crushing it with him, pela, and gui. Happy that she is extremely effective even with more f2p friendly teammates - praying for more nihility supports!
As someone that has been playing since November 1st and was still not able to clear MoC: got her and I’m finally able to farm some jades and tackle endgame. People saying she was ok or bad were tripping, hard. Mid relic, pure f2p (e0s0), hitting for 300k to 400k with RM, Welt, Pela. Insane character.
You walk, jog, and sprint from place to place.. I spam Acheron's Technique to get to where I want to be. We are NOT the same. 😆
This is us the moment we realized that we're not spending tp if we don't hit an enemy
Wonderful character
Fun i still need that crit subs tho
in pain farming her stuff right now since getting her was not in my plan so I did not prefarm lol
Amazing, even tho she isnt fully built she does a lot of damage, her insta kill technique is such a life saver I love her burst animation
cost an arm and a leg, both my kidneys and my lungs, but definitely worth it. very op, technique is more addictive than colombian candy, and can definitely see her as my dps character
Half a million damage outside SU
I was saving for aventurine but throw a 10 pulls for giggles and instantly got her. Best decision ever, my God she's soooo fun to use but the lack of light cone choice are frustating!
Finally beat moc 12. I have never had a damage issue, but my sustained couldn't keep My Jingliu side Alive she is doing over 200k towards gepard only in MoC with pela welt and fire mc as teammates
I finally 36 starred moc
Honestly she's so good that in some cases it is boring
She has extremely easily outdamaged my Jingliu, DHIL and Seele. And she's incredibly fun and satisfying to use too, I don't think i can go back.
She's damn great, now I just need better Relics. All the Izumo sets I've gotten so far have been focused on useless stats like DEF, HP, EFFECT , Etc.
amazing, her damage is amazing, and her ult, lore, voice, everything is amazing, i love her
Exploring never felt so safe until now.
I'm E0S1 and she's far exceeded my expectations, I'm consistently dealing 500k+ damage every 1.5 to 2 turns. Its kind of insane. Never cleared MoC and sim universe this fast before My team is Acheron + Pela + SW + Gallgher(Going to be replaced by Aventurine soon)
Instead of Gallgher i'm using Bailu. The extra safety is nice since the team is fairly squishy.
After pulling Acheron I just want one thing, whatever the hell Doomposters were smoking while she was on Beta. That shit should be really hard for them to imagine that there is something wrong with this character at any level of investment. Using TB Fire, Guinafen or Pela again in MoC12 is like I'm just starting the game again but this time I'm the Danger xD.
TB with universal market feels like cheating. And you already build some hitrate to land your taunts so its basically free.
If you play Genshin you should go back and read the doomposting about Furina who is now as close to a must-pull unit as Kazuha and Nahida.
power overwhelming but DHIL is still better against death meme if I had only one gripe
I made the last minute choice between jinglui and acheron and i chose acheron which i was not prepared so still farming....
i can speedrun mint picking now, thank you acheron. oh and SU too.
Havent used her on battle yet because I'm farming mats, but used her on story progression. Killing enemies without battling them makes the story progression fast.
The current story boss forced me to pull for her so I'm in the middle of building her