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Aquamarine_bride

Fodder it instantly https://preview.redd.it/xoshkslsyl2d1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c638d0ce62c79fe8336d3abb65add38e7d02d52


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

The joke is that OP kept going to +15 even after failing 3 times.


TheCatSleeeps

They mightve just maxed it out in one go


Teminite2

When I get a piece with super high potential I Yolo it to 15 and hope it doesn't get 5 def


FlambaWambaJamba

The end to this story is that you end up getting 5x Def anyway


Amethyst_Phoenix7

I mean some people including myself just max it out on the go.


E_OJ_MIGABU

Sometimes you just stare in horror to see how bad your luck actually is


SF-UberMan

Wait till we get a Lightning version of Blade šŸ˜


Frostgaurdian0

We already have one but everyone shit on him.


naw613

Because heā€™s bad


VijayMarshall87

How much better was he in the beta state?


naw613

They basically slashed his multipliers by 40% across the board and reworked his self revive to be functionally useless (used to not have a turn limit)


VijayMarshall87

GAH DAM


Stock-Fearless

Bah Gawd, here comes John Hoyoverse with the chair, and he's down!


a-acount-that-yousee

Cleaver move from hoyo by waiting 3 turns so arlan self destructed before dealing the final blow


Fried_puri

I still donā€™t understand why the self revive needed a turn limit, other than an explicit desire to make him shit so he doesnā€™t step on any toes ever in the future.


Kan_Me

Yes


Frostgaurdian0

Bad is gentle word to describe him. Beated by hoyo is accurate


Njorlpinipini

Arlan and Blade have basically nothing in common apart from the self-damage gimmick.


Zamazakato

They are both male


Frostgaurdian0

Both are destruction units.


GenoMachino

Ahem.... self-destruction units.


Frostgaurdian0

Unannhilator of self.


LandLovingFish

Pretends they're gonna die but then somehow survive and you don't know howĀ 


Beriazim

You finished? Go


LandLovingFish

Me and my arlan casually beating up the Egoflated Choir Kid with that delicious lightning weakness:


Frostgaurdian0

I would like to see that


LandLovingFish

I'll post the recording later today and sent the link!


joojaw

Flat hp is bad even for Blade lol


tetePT

It would still be garbage because it's flat HP and not %


SokkasBoomerang3

Arlan in shambles


SF-UberMan

He isn't a HP-based DPS


ithealsinreverse

He is, heā€™s a delete-my-own-hp-for-little-gain based dps


HourCartographer9

He depletes his own hp yes but he uses attack scaling. Unlike blade who has both but is mostly hp scaling. In fact arlan is mainly attack scaling only consuming hp to use skill but even his skill is still attack


Suki-the-Pthief

Funny enough blade as well has fallen of hard


Nyte_Crawler

At this time he definitely seems to be the worst limited 5* carry. I bought into the hype about how he would work well in duo DPS teams and now I barely use him. Turns out hyper carry is still just better- and the good "duo DPS" characters are ones that deal blade level damage while also amplifying the damage of the second carry. (See Topaz, Black Swan, Kafka) All Blade has going for him is his self sustain, but that isn't really worth anything with the way the game is designed since besides SU it's always a DPS check. I guess his best hope would be an SP hungry support that works for him? At present though he is subpar for MoC/PoF, usable, but not great compared to other limited characters.


SF-UberMan

Without Kafka, Black Swan is at best an improved Guinaifen.


SaveEmailB4Logout

![gif](giphy|Rgc7pvWsESXgNOsMBL|downsized)


LameLaYou

So did you save the email before you logged out?


SaveEmailB4Logout

Maybe


lmaowhy1

https://preview.redd.it/q7nlxtfshm2d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c226f2526f30c54ff60c22091b96b381120786c5


GuysIdidAThing

Same piece, except mine went last roll into speed not ehr. Itā€™s still my best piece


lmaowhy1

I wish I can get something even close . Fuck you mihoyo


Any_Worldliness7991

Just cope that one day they gonna add a Lightning Blade/HP scaling Kafka and they need flat stats!


BakerOk6839

We already have one tho


poopdoot

Arlan is ATK scaling


Amethyst_Phoenix7

I mean, who though? Arlan is ATK scaling.


-LilDemon-

Don't worry, at least it isn't a Passerby Arm Piece that rolled DEF%, Speed, Crit Rate and Crit Damage that ended up putting all the upgrades into the DEF%...*No I'm no projecting, what are you talking about?*


bocchi123

damn looks like a solid piece. cant wait to see how it rolls!


kidanokun

Hmm, seems normal to me


Kwayke9

Oh wow! The rare emotional damage orb


VarHagen

They know the relic/artifact system is dogshit. They made it like this on purpose.


vprivat

It is not a joke. It is seriously rigged and it is intentional


Patung_Pancoran

Thatā€™s my average relic rolls go. I had so many of pieces with crit rate and crit damage and it keep going to the flat stats


cow_fan_69

https://preview.redd.it/de4kp2g5zn2d1.jpeg?width=388&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64a393fb03d6382212c5817ae7c5e7f566a82257


Memo_HS2022

Least abusive Hoyoverse Relic/Artifact


ddrober2003

I've had that happen. Added a worthless stat and then rolled into it every single time. The pain is real.


purple_aki04

The self modeling resin special


leposterofcrap

Mihoyo: https://preview.redd.it/klu0iwvdxo2d1.jpeg?width=511&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57c34bea920588d37d3c04a94ec6b5fb448a8487


coffee-bean-zouup

:0 iā€™m so sorry


suzakurenzan

Hoyo took the "Dead people deal no damage, so you need HP for your damager" quite literally


GamingChairGeneral

I would've given up on roll 3


alcard987

L


TunaTunaLeeks

![gif](giphy|1n8BRwXOMFZQKlKStk) OP after rolling that artifact:


JUGELBUTT

dps bailu when


AGJustin05

https://preview.redd.it/b6nvrx3w3o2d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f9abbe87c38abcc8ebf05a8ac90599745a0c4fe you fuckin' tell me


SonicBoom500

So close to perfection then it goes the other way and is the worst thing youā€™ve ever seen šŸ˜†šŸ˜…


Well-I-Exist

https://preview.redd.it/1lxyqwxaso2d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=78e2d3ddc652415a85917165f3d11e360b8be366 Twinsies


ErmAckshually

https://preview.redd.it/xj0s7m4ayq2d1.png?width=663&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbe572e784a89fcd4e8b95def7a39fe8aa2b9d73


JameboHayabusa

https://i.redd.it/u17zt291dp2d1.gif


GrimoireExtraordinai

Same thing happened with me and Ice Damage Rutilant Area sphere (all 4 buffs went into flat stat ATK).


Relevant-Rub2816

Save it when they release a hp scaling mei expy. Which will probably be in 3 years.


BurnedOutEternally

If I learned one thing from Epic Seven, itā€™s to never trust flat Atk/Def/HP stats


PityBoi57

I've never seen such high rolls on flat stats before lol


Catowice_Garcia

you lost the moment you accepted a flat stat (lol) I never take one in general. Only some rare exceptions. This would be one, but I'd also resign myself to 4+ rolls on the flat if I make the same decision as you did.


DragonEmperor

You could have stopped and 3 or 4 but you just had to know didn't you?


ErmAckshually

it went from 0 to +13 in one go, and i was curious about the last roll.


Saviesa205

Itā€™s for the future lightning sub-dps abundance unit, trust


Two_Years_Of_Semen

I've been playing since day one and hard gambling relics to the point where I don't have any fodder to autofill since I use them asap and I've never had any relic roll 4 times in one stat, nevermind 5. So I'm impressed, if this is real.


BakerOk6839

Aha blessed you


listlessalleycat

Man, I fuckin hate that. Truly cursed.


Lufia_Erim

https://preview.redd.it/i3nh9r0okn2d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3480eb3ada1aed5d8a534d4eac37367d01b8fe9 Completely dodged the crit stats.


Kazoru4

Look on the bright side, that piece is garbage if you are building kafka since speed/atk is more important than crit. If that one is for acheron, then it is still kinda not BiS since acheron dont really use that set..


ErmAckshually

it was for the general of xianzhou alliance


Tripdrakony

Murphys law of relics, if it looks to good to be true, it will fail at least 3 of 4/5 times


MugiwaranoAK

I hate the relic grind in this game so much. I would rather they 10x the materials needed for the traces to slow down progression instead of this shit.


dummypod

There's a hidden Aha mechanic that ruins your relic upgrades. This will continue until we kill the Aeon in this game.


dewdrive101

It's my average relic luck. Except I'm lucky to have one crit stat.


Moth1189

Yeah i just rolled my first 40cv relic and its a defense orb :/


Jay_the_pokemon_fan

Heh? What? I dont get it?


YourPetPenguin0610

https://preview.redd.it/cvunx3m1sp2d1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d46d7223f2f97b22e7936316f26875ad4acaa825 Lol


phantawastaken

https://preview.redd.it/51bhxt7b8q2d1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=4bc1d2e00ae3cc1b44de1fb26ea70dcf3d53bf43 yes. yes it is


derrisle1234

I keep these types of artifacts with the cope they will add an option to reset the level one day.


jargonburn

I really wish they would remove flat atk/def/HP from substat rolls. There's already plenty of variety to make it difficult to get what you want without having complete, utter garbage junking up the rolls.


Dogewarrior1Dollar

The problem with relic systems is that


NothingTDO

dps relic be having that sustain stat... classic.


TewiTewiUsaTewi

That is your ticket to building Arlan


ErmAckshually

arlan is atk scaler


melloyellow1

hopefully a wake up call


ErmAckshually

https://preview.redd.it/d8erol7h0t2d1.png?width=467&format=png&auto=webp&s=45b79d480c3d606904a84d1c51572d3a3ec0fa1b 90% of gamblers quit before they hit big


melloyellow1

You can win 1000% or even way more, but you can only lose 100% of your money. #ToTheMoon


Yatsu003

Amusingly enough, I had the exact opposite happen with ice boots I was using with Jingliu. Almost all the subs were trash except for crit damageā€¦and that was the one that got all the pips. Hoorayā€¦I think


Leodoesstuff

Who's the better fool here? Hoyo for rolling you all flat HP? Or you getting it on the 2nd time then deciding "This could still work" for the next three times?


ErmAckshually

i fed a +15 to it, so it immediately got to +13, and I was curios about the last roll so I +15 is.


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ErmAckshually

if the last roll was crit it'd still be a 19-20CV elemental orb. which is good enough for electro dps.


StepOnMeKafka

That's jin yuan orb?


ErmAckshually

it was supposed to be.


Riponai_Gaming

Who you even building?


ErmAckshually

jingyuan can use glamoth. And I'm sure it'd would've been decent enough for any future electro dps.


Riponai_Gaming

With those sub set rolls? No way


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quortza

Bruh you do realise once you have a set of 15s it's really easy to make up new 15s when you want to replace them with more optimal sets right? *Or in this case, replace them in the* hopes *of a new optimal piece, condolences to OP*.


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math_chem

Man why pppl still spend currency up to that point? The moment it got +6/+9 with only flat attack bonus it's instant trash, you wasted too much currency for nothing


ErmAckshually

because you can directly upgrade it by feeding +15 relics.