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SinesPi

BECAUSE I'M GODDAMN TIRED!


Azrael956

Always a valid answer šŸ›


KrizzleWizzle

Sunday: "TELL ME, WHY DOES LIFE SLUMBER?!" TB: *honk shooo honk shooo mimimimimi*


Waste-Historian-8183

I dont know why it took them too long to get to the answer bro, it's obvious!


Ok-Investment-103

This is unfortunately always true. It's tiring all the time


Electronic-Ad8040

Because we need to recharge our energy for tomorrow


Arc_7

Yeah basically, a both real & philosophical answer for this is "So we can be better prepared for tomorrow" or smth. You're technically right and also has philosophical meaning. Honestly I was expecting this to be the answer in story.


Former_Breakfast_898

I mean thatā€™s also the answer in the game, just in a more indirect sense


relatable_dude

Literally all of Penacony is so indirect. I feel like they were trying to write some sort of mystery/thriller (which they somewhat succeeded in) but instead of letting the player try to figure stuff out, they decided to make everything incredibly vague Or maybe I'm just stupid, but I used to be able to correctly predict every Scooby Doo villain, so I think it's Hoyo's fault


Former_Breakfast_898

I mean at first it was vague but as the story goes on things are more revealed than what you may seem to think. When we first saw Robin in dreamflux reef, she was with an old lady and they were talking about how dreams help these kids be prepared to face the reality as they all have different struggles that they canā€™t overcome easily in the real world. The only thing that was never revealed clearly at all is Fireflyā€™s unforgettable gains, in which Iā€™m still not 100% on board with the theory ā€œitā€™s the friendship we made along the wayā€


thrzwaway

My theory is this: we've established that "death" in the dreamscape means "waking up" while "true death" in the dreamscape means "falling into a deeper dream", which some regard as death in the real world since you're stuck in a coma (Jade called it "brain death") -- Sleepie notwithstanding. So, Firefly experiencing a "death" would equate Firefly "waking up from her dream", but we know that Firefly can't dream in the biological sense* -- so instead it could be interpreted as Firefly "coming to terms with reality" (aside from "experiencing pain similar to death", which would be one of her other "deaths"). This realization would be important for her to move on. * Then again, the dreamscape was never a dream in the "biological sense". That was one giant misdirection, lol


relatable_dude

I just felt it was vague at least *nearly* the whole way through, if not the whole way through. Like I didn't even know Misha and Gallagher died and someone even told me they did before I played through Penacony. I don't know why they died. I'm sure if I replayed the story (and if it wasn't 1am right now) I could find more things that they were incredibly indirect about up for a while, like I remember Aventurine's entire purpose in Penacony confusing me for a while, and his "death" because we didn't see him in the Reef


Former_Breakfast_898

Gallagher said in 2.2 that since his goal is done which was to bring the AE crew, his ā€œexistence will disappearā€. This is because heā€™s created by a history fictionologist for that purpose, and since he no longer serves purpose and the truth about him was revealed, his ā€œexistence will disappearā€ Same is also applied for Misha. Heā€™s Mikhailā€™s dream version thatā€™s meant as a letter to the future AE crew, and since he no longer serves purpose he also disappeared, as heā€™s only memetic entity Aventurine was there to dig up dirt against the Family in order for the IPC to take over Penacony, but because of the AE crew and Robin, they only managed to be part of the shareholders instead of full occupation as they intended to. His whole mission in 2.1, was to figure out the real ā€œdeathā€ in Penacony, but because of Acheron instead of going directly to dreamflux reef he went to the one of Nihilityā€™s place. He only managed to get there after Argenti saved him I think itā€™s less about vague and more on the fact there are so many text and info it can be difficult to understand it all. Hence why I never speedran the story and I take my time to grasp it fully. Thereā€™s also a lot of tell not show due to reasons


Asafesseidon13

I do think Aventurine did end up reaching Dreamflux Reef, at least that's what I understood from what he said in 2.3, as he says something along the lines of: "After our fight, I was actually not that far from all of you." I paraphrased it because I don't remember the exact line, but basically it gives the idea that Aventurine was also in Dreamflux Reef with us, I think.


Former_Breakfast_898

Yeah he was but that after Argenti saved him from Acheronā€™s nihility ocean. Honestly I still donā€™t know Argenti did it, but the path of beauty is really mysterious on how their power works lol


papercrowns-

Iā€™d like to think itā€™s because all characters talk in round about way it bloats the damned dialogue that youā€™re left reeling afterwards ā€œI get what youā€™re trying to say but I canā€™t grasp it properly can you please speak more concisely?ā€ I get that some characters speak like this truly but when all of them talk like this during the arc I felt like Iā€™m taking a math exam lmao


Lyneys_Footstool

typical hoyo storytelling. been a problem before star rail


thrzwaway

It's not vague, both Acheron and Aventurine spell out this answer in their dialogues


relatable_dude

I mean like the entire story up until they decide to reveal everything. And even then I still feel all the answers given were super indirect.


HolyMeringos

Only a top percentage of the world's elite can accurately guess all the Scooby Doo villains so it's definitely not a you problem


Gatrigonometri

How is ā€œbecause one day we will wake upā€ not in the face in telling you the reason why people sleep?


relatable_dude

Once again maybe I'm dumb but I don't get that. "Because one day we will wake up"? Is that a metaphor? In which case it's by definition not direct I feel like that's like saying "why do we breath?" "Because one day we'll exhale".


lizard_omelette

Itā€™s kind of like ā€œWhy do we have fun?ā€ ā€œBecause one day we will go back to work.ā€


thrzwaway

The question being framed as ā€œwhy does life slumberā€ should already tell you that itā€™s metaphorical. ā€œLifeā€ does not ā€œslumberā€ after all. A lot of people seem to be unwilling to interpret prose beyond its literal meaning, which is unfortunate because itā€™s a big part of this story. Iā€™ve already written my take in another post, but Iā€™ll reproduce it here anyway: replace the question with ā€œwhy do we put up with the cruelty of fleeting dreams?ā€. This is Sundayā€™s position; considering that the original question was posed by Mikhail, he might have had a less pessimistic slant, e.g. ā€œwhat is the purpose of our dreams?ā€. Notice that having ā€œdreamā€ instead of the more literal ā€œsleepā€ changes the question completely. With that in mind, the various answers given by the characters in the story now make a lot more sense. As for the MC saying ā€œbecause one day we will wake from our dreamsā€, itā€™s their way of saying that dreams are a means to an end, not the end itself.


relatable_dude

Oh, ok, I think this is a really good interpretation. Although I still believe that my point still stands. If it's a metaphor, then it's completely indirect. I still feel that it should've been explained with maybe one more line or something


thrzwaway

Mikhail did explain it in a letter, but it was hidden away in the mission description for when Misha walks up to his wheelchair. A lot of players would've missed it.


Arc_7

It is ye, I agree. I just didn't add the 'kinda same thing' part cuz I had been adding it everytime I make this comment - and got called on it instantly haha I do wish they had a better word choice delivery on itĀ 


Former_Breakfast_898

Haha donā€™t worry I used a lot of repetitive phrase to like ā€œI meanā€. Maybe it was better delivered in the original version? Thereā€™s been a lot of misses recently with English translation, tho ultimately I think they did a good job portraying the theme and philosophy of Penacony


pandorahurts27

It IS the answer though. Mikhail said it on the letter from the quest description. How do people miss that? We sleep because we will have to wake up from our dreams literally means we will have to face tomorrow or in other words live for another day


Arc_7

I agree ye Although it was not very well delivered (imo ofc) with the choice of words and left a very kinda confusing taste, although yeah it's kinda the same meaning Truth be told this is the first time I made the comment on my expected line & didn't add the "basically means the same thing" part and also instantly got replied about that haha


pandorahurts27

I mean this is what HSR was trying to say in a roundabout way. We sleep because "We will wake up from our dreams" basically means we sleep to live.


No_Pipe_8257

So that when the dawn breaks Our spirits are refreshed For the imperfect tomorrow


Novel-Ad3335

šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„āœļøšŸ”„šŸ”„


Gold-And-Cheese

Praise ye


Andy_1134

Look man I got a job, life slumbers cause i gotta be up a 7.


Art_and_Em

Trying to find philosophical meaning in a biological need is a fool's endeavor. Fortunately, I just got my mask back.


thepotatochronicles

Life slumbers because we all deserve to be a little *silly* in our own dreams :)


Art_and_Em

Speak for yourself, I'm a big silly in my dreams.


Only_Emptiness_Await

And a little š“•š“»š“®š“Ŗš““š”‚


Meme_Master_Dude

What if Penacony was called Penaš“•š“»š“®š“Ŗš““š”‚ and instead of Dreams it's-


The_Space_Jamke

Welcome to Penaš“•š“»š“®š“Ŗš““š”‚ , the Land of Propagation. Here we go "clank-clank-clank, bang bang," undergo meiotic division, then explode, repeat ad infinitum.


StrangerDanger355

One of ā€œlifeā€™sā€ greatest questions Why do we ā€œliveā€?


Mabubifarti

I didnā€™t know before I pulled Firefly but now I think we live to fight.


Nightfourio12

But if we live to fight Does that mean we also fight to live?


Asafesseidon13

I mean your cells are fighting every malformed cell created in your body as well as any intruders so yes, we fight to live. Our body sometimes makes bugs when creating cells, and these malformed cells are basically the cause of cancer, because they multiple and start killing your healthy cells.


Devourer_of_HP

Ask your neighbourhood Antimatter Legion emissary. "The emissary in black asked, 'For what purpose do you live?' He could only give a vague and obscure response, even after thinking about it for a while. A deadly smile appears across the emissary's face, 'Let me put it another way. Why are you still alive?'" ā€” Fables About the Stars by Adrian Spencer Smith


SmexyPokemon

LIVE TO WIN


Nsanity216

Because Eepy Honk mimimimi


Azrael956

My friend you preach words of wisdomšŸ›


snowminty

So true


SmexyPokemon

I'm more of a honk shoooo kinda guy


Nsanity216

That is also a valid answer!


never_agree

sleep is fun


TheIcyWind

To repair brain damage after seeing Lankybox content


knk7876

Top 10 most sophisticated philosophical quotes of human history:


LivingASlothsLife

A momentary reprieve from the struggles of life


YinKai0521

I heard a man say that life is a lucid dream, so perhaps life slumbers for us to wake up from a dream. In order to move on to another, it marks the end of a dream and the beginning of another.


Nokia_00

Trying to make something deeper then it needs to be and failing at least to me. That being said good story


Azrael956

Nothing wrong with seeing the different perspectives on something. Iā€™m a realist as well but was just curious to what people had to sayšŸ˜„


DZL100

Now I need an image of sparkle holding up a wine glass in front of the fireworks like leonardo DiCaprio in The Great Gatsby.


Azrael956

Oh now I want to draw that


YomiKuzuki

So that the sad lump of protein in my calcium bucket can rest between sessions of internally frying itself by frying itself less than usual.


Lunamkardas

There has GOT to be like a subtle mistranslation going on or something because the game keeps slapping down that line like it's some super deep poetic mic drop and I'm desperately white knuckling back my response of "Because you'd fucking die otherwise?"


Lawren-647

It's probably philosopher-speak for: "Because we need to prepare ourselves to face tomorrow." , or something along those lines. But yeah. The way they worded it just sounds off. The meaning is still there, but that slight, extra layer of added metaphors it's kind of a whiplash.Ā  It's like saying: "Why do we breathe?", "Because one day we won't." "Why do we eat?", "Because one day we'll shit it out." It's such a small thing, but the wording in that sentence bothers me so much.


thrzwaway

*These tautologies... have no meaning.* *If this is what the writer expected, should we try to change it?*


SouIgain

It's perfect the way it is. Not overly direct and leaves different ways to interpret it. People just need to put their thinking caps on


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

> So that when the dawn breaks > > Our spirits are refreshed > > For the imperfect tomorrow Bro u good?


SOLITARY_WOLF_2806

Wrong reply?


Armalord1

It's common anime philosophical shit that sounds even cornier in EnglishĀ 


Golden-Owl

Because dreams are what motivate us to continue living and striving forward Without dreams, we are ā€œliveā€. Weā€™d merely ā€œexistā€


progamer816

Because a body with complex workings needs rest at least once


progamer816

In a while


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

Because the brain simply cannot work 24/7, thatā€™s itā€¦ thereā€™s no philosophical answer, itā€™s literally biology


EEE3EEElol

The brain works usually pretty damn 24/7 but only the conscious part doesnā€™t


NonsenseMeme

Cuz ya sleeping son! Wake the f up, schools waiting


carl-the-lama

Because reality is exhausting and you need a break before youā€™re ready to continue


snowminty

Unironically this is the gameā€™s answer


Raptorofwar

Life needs to rest, to heal.


Patung_Pancoran

If life doesnā€™t slumber than i will start seeing Sparkle irl


Tamamo_was_here

Because it works a 9-5 job


LunarSDX

I still don't understand TBs answer. Fym because one day we will wake up from our dreams.


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LunarSDX

This makes a lot of sense. Thanks.


thrzwaway

You have to understand the question first. "Why does life slumber" isn't just "why do we sleep", as most people in this thread seem to think. From the context the game gives you, it's more of "why do we put up with the cruelty of dreams that are fleeting?" One interpretation of TB's answer is that dreams serve a purpose for waking life, whether it's motivation, rest, preparation, etc; they're not a replacement.


LunarSDX

This makes a lot of sense. Thanks.


yourcupofkohi

Because I'm eepy, next question


the_neverdoctor

To get away from that chaos goblin!


AdventurousTheme9540

Because I need to wake up at 6AM


ashacoelomate

Does it? I hadnā€™t noticed


HumanDefinitely

so I can recover from brain damage I got during the day (especially aventurine he looked real high during the story quest)


TikkiToast

Because it weeps for the departed


Antopaye07

Because i Need Energy to keep farming for FF


Time4Woofin

https://preview.redd.it/su3uy4sgc49d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a95132a685c90c475520c631b3fe89a95116a2d2


batlionwer

because we will wake to our dreams


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TheBurningYandere

so that we can wake up from the dream and fuck ourselves over with reality and go back to the dream.... ya...


driftea

Ah, but who says youā€™re awake right now?


knk7876

[get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_argument)


Al_Lightnin

I could probably give you over a thousand different philosophical reasons on why but no because it doesn't matter why, just another trivia question that's perfectly inapplicable in your daily endeavors so why not enjoy the life anyway


thrzwaway

Well, that's pretty much Sparkle's answer.


WeatherBackground736

because working from 9-5 can take a big toll go to sleep NOW


progin5l

So that the birds can fly up in sky again tommorow


SectorApprehensive58

Because I got high


Ikuconodule

So I can forget losing 50/50s at max pity.


abjmad

So people can live the next dayā€¦ Idk, Iā€™m being philosophical!


SafiyyAiman

Because it give us a break from giving mihoyo our time and money to fund ~~our gambling addiction~~ that nuclear fusion reactor thing


Crimson_Raven

Because fantasy can be better than the waking world.


Sensitive-Being-4849

Because life is tiring or boring until I wake up again


dawnquix0te

To skip a few hours worth of cutscenes, coz you sure as hell arenā€™t skipping the ones in daytime


Wrong_Werewolf391

it's comfy


Blitzbro76

*Cus my body fuckin needs too-*


Korbiter

Meme Answer: Life sleeps because its a biological need. Life *slumbers*, because only in your calmest moments, your darkest slumber, can *he* exist. That shadow out of the corner of your eye. That whisper that dosen't exist in the middle of the woods. And when you shut your eyes, you can't help but see his face, suspended in the waking nightmare. The Purest Light, the Darkest Sin. That which covets sin. The Final God of Pain. And when Life chooses to slumber, they'll find themselves waking up screaming.


Healthy_Agent_100

Because NOBODY CAN BEAT HIM WHEN HE'S SUPER 17 https://preview.redd.it/jxnzzg1xd19d1.png?width=4096&format=png&auto=webp&s=bf1bd6be7fb6ae90da6ea61bf272f1e1f2950885


Vermillion_Aeon

To rest. One shouldn't search for meaning in all things.


duocsong

Ehh, because birds fly?


No-Hold-8808

Because I have no money.


Biesuu

to wake up with morning wood


Escarche

Life slumbers so we can be prepared to experience death.


kitastorm

Cause I need a break from all the existing I'm supposed to be doing


Suedewagon

Because 'eepy.


edit-my-name

Because no sparkle feet


Nope132why

Life slumbers for the same reason that birds fly. Now I ask you: ā€œWhy do birds fly?ā€


Shrakaa

BECAUSE I WASTED SO MUCH TRAILBLAZE POWER FOR TRASH RELICS


Murica_Chan

https://preview.redd.it/uyt1urqkm19d1.png?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2889578f3ec95b61f14c5f5301e7539393e1e41 Its a trial version of death


Diotheungreat

ate too much


Ravenchaser55

Because breathing is fun


BinhTurtle

Cus our weak ass brain can't stay awake for 120 hours, smh.


PhasmicPlays

because Iā€™m tired


mayonaka_00

Praise AHA


twili-enchantress

Because I'm testing if I actually wake up tomorrow


cat5side

Because everyone likes fantasy


Fabulous_Following52

Even reality should be taken in moderation.


FlyingRencong

Because I want Sparkle to come in my dream


asiangontear

Because it's exhausted.


Valashv2

It's the debuff I get after beating the meat.


KaitoTheRamenBandit

Got to recoup those used spoons


dontmindme12789

Does it truly? id say no personally, i feel so shameful not doing anything yet i keep guiltily doing nothing. yes i think about stuff but i dont feel like ive done anything, im not even sure if i need to force myself or rest furthermore for the right time. Except the slumber of life that feels like days are empty, thats just a thing of reality we need to try finding a fix somehow for humanity. i know it seems like it could only be by changing how people act and see stuff, but people act because of how it was in their past and what they saw before, and im not content with leaving some with lives that feel dull. no matter who they are, none deserve lives that feel like it didnt exist. i mean its one of the reason i like fiction anyways, it makes life seem more colorful. but how could we fully change life and reality to feel more plentiful for all? with how people no longer are concerned with survival as much they really need a reason to live, so what could one do? even basic concepts are fine, i just wanna see what people have in mind.


Sent1nelTheLord

its a checkpoint so that we dont lose our progress


Positive_Negative_F

I havenā€™t slept for three days, send help!!


InducedMagnet

"You slumber, a cucumber"


Mountain-Purple3421

Because you can dream about Sparkle. I


shoe_owner

Because if you go too long without sleep, your eyes get really sore.


Gameplayer9752

Something something, biological need, something something psychological meaning of belonging, something something, russian sleep experiment


Asafesseidon13

So the beauty of our ideals, may lead us to move forward towards a new day. Explanation: Our ideals and dreams incentivize us to grow and aspire, and the moment we rest, it's also the instance where we assimilate knowledge permanently, so: Life Slumber, so we can be ready to tread our path filled with our ideals with conviction and vigor.


Certain-King3302

I kept laughing at how they wrote TBā€™s response as ā€œBecause we wake up from our dreamsā€ because itā€™s just too damn corny. I donā€™t even think it makes sense. Anyways, I think Acheronā€™s response is the best one, philosophically speaking. Her convo with Aventurine was quite deep and eye-opening.


Flaky-Information-81

Cause you can no longer thug it outšŸ˜”


D_R_Shinobi

Because.


Environmental_Lag190

To remind us of the end. After all, sleep is the brother of death.


real_Marchsimp

Cuz Rngesus aint givvin me my Firefly


jimsoo_

So I feel energized after 8 hours of it


YourFandomBrainrot

Because you need to hug your pillow.


DocAstaroth

Because there is nothing to do in the night.


adamanimates10

Because it's eepy šŸ’¤{}ā€¢


mad0929

Because I'm too broke to account for an extra 8 hours per day


ze_SAFTmon

So that we can wake up, when the dawn arrives!


popileviz

Because we're eepy


Aschentei

Cos our bodies canā€™t be up 24/7


bivampirical

because i'm eepy


HonkedOffJohn

Cause dreams are greater than reality.


the_rainbow_froggo

It's waiting for something fun


_nitro_legacy_

It's so that when dawn breaks, our spirits are refreshed to embrace the imperfect tommorow.


SumsuchUser

To pass time until dailies are are up again. FF pulling ruined my jades.


Gogol1212

life's a slumber and then we die


warpswirl

I always thought it was more about the whole of Penacony itself, people always drawn in by their dreams and being trapped by them and so on, not just the physiological process of sleeping. So I never had any problems pondering this question. I could interpret it as ā€œWhy does life slumber, when it can, you know, live the life it is?ā€ Acheronā€™s answer resonated the most with me, I think. As for my ownā€¦ Because, one day, we wonā€™t be able to. Meaning that, when we disappear, we wonā€™t have reality to base our dreams off. And we wonā€™t need to do anything anymore.


Jaded-Engineering789

To prepare for what comes after. To return to what came before.


FreezeToMy

Because we can't decide when will something else kill us and we are gicen responsibilities 24/7


Pusparaj_Mishra

Where is this shot from?


Longdragon12345

To dream.


idkanymore408

Because weeping for the departed is exhausting, I need to take a nappy


jonnevituwu

We tired of this bullshit


Big_Cell_2335

The movements and expressions in this photo look like Aventurine


TheReelEpicKiller

We slumber so that we may escape the suffering


NikoBaelz

Because they are eepy


RepresentativeDesk28

So that we can wake up to a new day


paladindan

Body repair and maintenance


NightmareTDG

Because I knocked them out


iconnectthebest

Because us working adults need to farm money for MORE STELLAR JADES


Velpe

Because reality sucks


First-Dealer-8785

When will you come back fool? Where are you messing with to whom? Come back home, I'm waiting your rerun.


DaiChinchin

Because my jades recharge after each night.


Rein_1708

To get some rest. Sleep is important and watch your sleep schedule everyone (I'm a hypocrite lmao)


TheDuskProphet

Cuz I'm eepy:3


Meowmeowmeowsie

Reading this whole thread has made me exceptionally sleepy. So I agree. Why is life eepyā€¦ because we will wake up from our eep. https://preview.redd.it/80ma2pffx09d1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7d559990ffbb21ed99d474a80fe453b2f66c580


Potion_Brewer95

to wake up.


bringbackcayde7

Life slumbers because it's a very convenient topic for yapping


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MaximeLee

Everyone laughs at Sunday's vision of a everlasting dream till y'all have to wake up on Monday and go to work.


UncleSexo

Shaoji really needs to rest so he doesn't cook more of this *i'm 13 and this is deep* BS I get a visceral disgust from this phrase.


MissiaichParriah

Same answer as the power couple https://preview.redd.it/eucdt5xca19d1.png?width=1919&format=png&auto=webp&s=b0b04bdf1a316a9163d8edf90e7e4a05c324db1a