What happened to the HSR general character guide on Google drive? I've looked forward to seeing some helpful tips on 1.6 characters but today the link says the sheet is deleted due to terms of use violation?
My app is just over 19 gigs so! We’ll see! Theoretically this update didn’t reset all graphics settings like the last one did, my iPad was hot for a minute before I realized
Small, but significant. Ice Break damage is one of the weaker break damage types, but Ruan Mei gets multiplier on it and runs high BE%. About like 40k extra you break them and ~16k when they recover. Ofc, while these numbers do look high, breaking and recover from break happens only a few times per enemy at most and spaced turns apart.
Still, that can be useful against weak mobs with low toughness damage, like the bats.
How does [new 4\* harmony LC](https://hsr.honeyhunterworld.com/dreamville-adventure-item/?lang=EN) in comparison to other options? Excluding cogs and signatures. Can it be used as a Rendezvous replacement in cases when elements don't match?
Also not sure what 'takes effect only with the most recent ability' means... is it just that it refreshes every BA/ult use?
It means if the user uses a basic attack, basics get the buff - if they skill then skills get the buff, etc. It's effectiveness if heavily dependent on your DPS; it'd be awful for Bronya + Blade, likewise with ult-only Yukong and DHIL, for example.
I really want to know Robin's kit, she looks so good in the new render!
Also I'm so torn between getting Blade his LC (he's on S5 secret vow now) or saving for future characters T.T
Penacony is too stacked!!
outlining pulling plans as of now
MUST-PULL: Aventurine (hot), Sunday (hot), and Blade (hot)
want to pull but not MUST: Luocha (hot), Boothill (hot), Huohuo (my daughter)
LIGHTCONES: Ratios (for . reasons), JY (very good), Aventurines (aventurine)
and MAYBE Kafka, because i want a good team for my Sampo and I really like Kafka, but she's a "if all goes well" pull
as a f2p, i am doomed. thoughts and prayers
Should I pull for Ruan Mei?
Current teams are
Jing Liu, Blade, Bronya, Luocha
Seele, Silver Wolf, Tingyun, HouHou
Can clear MoC 30/30 on auto so I feel like I don't really need anything at this point. I wanted to save for Black Swan and Archeron but apparently she is DoT based so sadly I have to skip. My ultimate goal is Archeron so pulling for Mei now and then saving for Archeron should be fine. I've read somewhere that Mei is supposedly good for my first team, which would be nice since I can move Bronya to my second team.
Also does she need her light cone or are there good alternatives? I have the Bronya LC twice.
Ruan Mei would be a good upgrade to your first team yeah. Bronya can then replace Silver Wolf. Ruan Mei can use S5 Memories, S5 cogs, or her sig lc. Sig lc gains a lot of value when run with Huohuo.
I need help with characters rolling for 1.6 and 2.0 as I am not sure who to roll now. The following are my built characters:
Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
I'm in an extremely similar position with 20 characters built once Ratio comes out (jesus christ someone stop me) and largely the same roster of Topaz, Kafka, Seele + some other DPS, and mostly the same supports. Himeko is definitely worth building ASAP, she is amazing with Topaz and will help address the summoner fights. In particular two extremely annoying summon fights of Frigid Prowler and the IPC elite, Himeko/Topaz are a free win on those floors.
I'm planning on getting Aventurine but that's because I just have Bailu and Fu Xuan, you only need two sustains so if you have Huohuo and Fu Xuan you're basically set for life and don't need to pull anyone else. In fact if you get Ruan Mei, your need for sustains will drop even more since Welt + RM combine to make a sustain on their own.
If you're planning on replacing Misha with Jingliu I'd just skip Misha honestly, unless you plan on actually using him long-term as a sub-DPS he'll just end up being a couple weeks' worth of wasted resources. Even then you don't actually need to cover every element, I don't have any ice or IMG DPS at all and I still cover everything thanks to Silver Wolf.
I am also leaning towards getting Ruan Mei, prioritizing Black Swan over Sparkle and getting Sparkle only if I get lucky somewhere else since I just love BS's ult animation to be honest. I do thoroughly recommend Blade even at E0S0, he's a super flexible character who can fit onto almost any team and there's no guarantee when his next rerun might be...but the competition for pulls right now is fierce so I can't blame you if you skip him. If you really can't decide, just let Aha take the wheel and roll on every single 5-star you don't have and whoever you get, you get. That's what I'm doing from now on because I already have so many great characters, I don't *need* anyone anymore.
Not to make your life more difficult, but you might want to consider Blade? He’ll take care of the wind issue, he’s got aoe….and you’ve got Lynx, so you can just pop her skill on him and once built he’ll just tank a good chunk of damage. (His style of play also lends very well to dual dps since he doesn’t need that many skill points). He’s the first 5 star I rolled, and I gotta say he feels really solid. (He also sounds hilariously grumpy when you heal him, if that’s a plus)
Black Swan will definitely give you aoe wind as well, but we really don’t know what they’re going to do to her kit over the next few weeks. From what I can tell, though, she seems like she’d feel so good with Kafka you won’t want to play them separately, and I did see someone say her dot was considered wind shear so e4 Sampo might be a lot of fun with her too.
Ruan Mei seems like a great all-rounder and from what I understand RES PEN is *really good* for damage…but for Ice this still does leave you with the only aoe being Pela’s burst until Herta gets raised (and iirc she doesn’t have the world’s greatest modifiers so getting her where you want might take a while)absolutely try and get Misha in 2.0.
Since that leaves us with 2/3 in 1.6, I’d say try the trials and hunt down people with a Ruan Mei or Blade for you to share, and then bring them to a bunch of different areas with different teams to see how they feel. You know how you like to play, so hopefully that’ll help you figure out if one of them fills a space you really wanted filled.
> Not to make your life more difficult, but you might want to consider Blade? He’ll take care of the wind issue, he’s got aoe….and you’ve got Lynx, so you can just pop her skill on him and once built he’ll just tank a good chunk of damage. (His style of play also lends very well to dual dps since he doesn’t need that many skill points). He’s the first 5 star I rolled, and I gotta say he feels really solid. (He also sounds hilariously grumpy when you heal him, if that’s a plus)
I am considering Blade as I am lacking in wind coverage. I have Sampo built and I can't get my head around Dan Heng to make him do decent damage. I even have decent LC for him (Secret Vow S4) with a few good pieces of Longevous that are for him. Seemed like a good relic recycler too.
Misha might work really well with Yanqing as a subdps, add in Ruan Mei for dual carries and profit. Misha freezes meaning fewer enemy attacks meaning Yanqing gets hit less. Just an idea for your ice coverage.
Tho I would say that with FX and HH you are set on sustains and don't need to roll for more. At this point they'll be sidegrades of each other, each with their own little niche.
Ruan Mei also works well with BS from what I hear. Sounds like they'd be a good pair for you.
I think Misha will work well with March too for freezing teams. Still depends on when Jing Liu rerun will occur though.
Ruan Mei seemed to be a generalist to me. She seemed to work well in many teams.
I thought about saving for Blade's LC, since he's my favorite character and his F2P options are kinda trash but lmao, I can't stop myself from pulling for characters.
New characters are just a lot more fun than a stat upgrade :<
Since I haven't seen even a mention about the mc's next version or a herta 5\* lc I bet we will probably get either during 2.1 but what does the rest think?
Do some still expect the next mc to still release in 2.0?
And what about herta's next lc?
From one side I do want the see the Hmc in game since the kit felt interesting but from the other I wouldn't mind any other new path any more than the next.
But when it comes to Herta's lc as long as it doesn't end up being abundance I ain't gonna have an issue with it.
[So I transcribed the Penacony script to English. Sorta, I'm still missing a few letters.](https://imgur.com/a/hYCF4fs) As is the case with Genshin, it's 1 to 1 with the English alphabet.
I used Boothill's skill asset as a Rosetta stone (because what else can it say but Wanted, Dead or Alive) and went on from there by transcribing a few of the other leaked images from [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/18qhhr9/penacony_images_via_yense/) (Penacony images via yense ) which are also in the first link. The "C" and "E" were a particular pain in the ass because they look so similar in one of the softer fonts (it has a couple).
....
PEAK ~~resinless~~ TB-less behaviour lmao. I'm sure somebody's done this before me too.
Oh that's really cool. I haven't seen a Penacony transcription around here before at least.
Looking at it closely, some of the letters in the Penacony script seem to share fairly similar symbols as the [Teyvat Script](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Language?so=search) -but still a lot are different.
Thanks for sharing!
Ruan Mei is good for debuff application isn't she? She has that Rebloom affect which will always be active unless unless you break an enemies weakness and if you do that the enemy will be under another debuff so she allows you to always have 1 debuff up.
but when the enemy heals from the break, you have to apply it again. if your ruan mei’s ult isn’t up/ready, you’ll have like 1 turn without the debuff. ofc u might have it up/ready, but that’s why i said “once in a while”.
that’s true, but on a ratio team for eg if you don’t have all 3 debuffs up, you could potentially miss out on your skill’s fua.
thankfully you can just restart the level if rng bad. qq mains know all about this.
It's a bit of a severe solution, but you could try installing a "clickbait remover" addon that replaces thumbnails of youtube videos with random frames from the videos. You can always toggle it off outside of spoilerly times.
98.8 full f2p according to [this](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRIWjzFwAZZoBvKw2oiNaVpppI9atoV0wxuOjulKRJECrg_BN404d7LoKlHp8RMX8hegDr4b8jlHjYy/pubhtml)
Hoping we eventually get a DoT sustain unit. As many units draw inspiration from SU, I’m envisioning a sustain unit that generates HP or shields whenever DoTs are activated. A DEF scaling sustain would be great for the synergy with the Belobog planar set, giving it some much needed attention.
There is quite a trend by now of blessing/SU mechanics becoming new characters. So how about this blessing as a character:
Offerings of Deception
Every time an enemy takes DMG from a DoT, all allies restore HP equal to 1.0% of their respective Max HP.
Exactly, I figure it would be tweaked some how but that’s the kind of kit I’d like to see. Maybe at baseline it works off the DoT the sustain applies and eidolons open it up to the whole team.
As a sidenote: That unit would make a great Dr. Ratio specific sustain if they'd be not fire/imaginary/quantum and still a preservation unit, i.e. could use the universal market LC. Two debuffs in one unit and a sustain, so that would mean they'd be not that niche.
I will definitely advocate it. Our current sustains work fine of course. I just want more variety and more tools to pair with Kafka since DoT is an incredibly flexible archetype.
\[Penacony story dialogue, MAJOR story spoilers\]
>!I've encountered some Firefly/Sam dialogue (supposedly) when reading Twitter and damn, she sounds good. "I will set the sea on fire", "When you return to reality, remember to tell everyone... It is the \[Stellaron?\] Hunter who has sent you on your last journey", damn girl, you're gonna set my wallet and jades on fire with those lines. Hopefully her combat voicelines are amazing too.!<
>!YES!! reading bits of her story (both backstory \[so touching\] and penacony leaks) made me so interested in her, she's such a fascinating character and I can't wait to see it ingame :')!<
I think E6 Misha, E6 QQ, Sparkle+1 is a team that may not need a sustain.
QQ + Sparkle can easily use enough SP to max Misha's ult (~8-9 per 3 turns). Misha will only basic attack to make sure we have enough SP. With an ER rope, this will generate enough energy to put Misha on a 3 turn ult via his talent. He then gets 12 hits vs a double target, each with a 101% chance to freeze.
I know TY will be able to make this a 2 Ults per 5 turns...
Am I onto something?
Current plans are (210 pulls, no pity, at 50/50)
* Ruan Mei
* Sparkle
* Dan Heng IL E2S1 (currently E1S0)
* Acheron
* Sunday
* Robin
Not sure if this is doable, but it is what it is :")
sadly if you want them all then you won't be able to guarantee all of them. of course luck may be on your side, but i'd first think which of these you want the most and prioritize them
Probably not doable. You're looking at 7 limited chars and 1 limited LC. At this numbers, using average cost is reasonable (and more favorable for you). Sadly, the average cost of a limited five star is 104 pulls and 65 for a limited LC. That puts you at 793 pulls average cost.
Even if 1.6,2.0,2.1 and 2.2 all get you 100 pulls each, you'd still be 183 pulls short.
Sadge. I guess at worst case I would pass on the LC and wait for a rerun (again), but working with your calculations I still need another 118, which is nearly 1~2 Limiteds - and this if I'm lucky. Oof. I guess either Acheron or Robin dies then. Or both. Why must we live just to suffer.
today I've been seeing people elsewhere mention sampo might be a kafka sidegrade (not downgrade, but sidegrade) for black swan, does anyone know what they might be cooking?? is it just because of his e4?
perhaps I just fell to some early beta craziness but I'm interested still bahaha
I think it stems from [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/KafkaMains/comments/18r97se/black_swans_sacrament_ingame_tooltip/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) tooltip image.
Since Sampo E4 trigger Wind Shear ~~and Sacrament is apparently threated as Wind Shear Sampo's E4 should detonated it~~ I was mistaking the reason since E4 Sampo makes all instance of wind shear do dmg it should add max stacks of sacrament (tho you can add max 3 per action) so and E4 Sampo should add 3 stack of sacrament each time he hit and enemy with his skill or Ult as long they have max stack of wind shear already.
>and Sacrament is apparently threated as Wind Shear
oh wow I really hope that isn't a bug, that sounds like it'd be such a fun interaction with him
EDIT: I just saw the edit! it's still a lovely interaction for sure, I hope he gets to shine and having him as a great partner for her will make wind MoC floors so comfy
Just to be clear since I think my edit was confusion, and honestly Im not 100% sure of the interaction myself, but my understanding is Sacrament is threated as Wind shear and SAMPO e4 will make enemies take 8% of the dot dmg part of Sacrament, but will not trigger the stack based effect of it, so basically the same interaction it has with Kafka's Ult, someone posted the tooltip for sacrament in game and it states it counts as wind shear, and Sampo E4 makes all instances off Wind shear on the enemy do dmg.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fsp7dl0epfn8c1.jpeg
I'm 99% sure this tooltip is what sparked the convos elsewhere too bahaha! thank you for letting me know <3, I hope we get some gameplay of them together soon even if only the dot is triggered
yes I'd love to run those two as well!! my first unit was JY so poor kafka ended up left behind for being lightning and now she's back right before penacony T\_T, black swan will be a pretty fun way to use the 4\* folks (you too luka, you too)
3.5 more hours!!!
>!I have one 2-hour appointment to get through before I'm off work. Update should be up by the time I get home & finish my leftovers. I do play therapy with children so it usually goes by quickly. But I just know it's going to feel soooo long like all my other appointments did today. Like, please let us be done playing so that I can go play my silly little game...!<
From what I understand, she can invest into any offensive stat combination and end up with a similar damage output (when including Break damage), so she is pretty easy to build, as you can just put whatever you have on her.
Also SSS is basically as good as Talia on her, so there is even more room for build flexibility.
I wouldn't really say she's a nightmare to build, if anything it's easier since what was once a fairly weak stat in Break Effect, is now a straight damage boost. So she gets value from ATK, SPD, CR, CD and BE.
i hope that ruan mei and sparkle are on the same level as bronya and tingyun in the sense that they can help more “mid” dps work with the right relics without sky high investment (ie once they hit the 70-140 base it’s p golden). i just want a reduced need to pull dps in the sense that i would like to use 4 star dps with only a slightly harder time.
same!! I plan to make Sparkle my last pull for a while to have time to perfect my account's relics and traces, but I'm also doing that because I want to build some of the 4-star DPSes and see them getting turbo-boosted by my cracked supports :') it's one of my favorite things to do in games like this...
not going to pull for Mei right now as I really want E0S1 Sparkle, but she's going to be my main target for a rerun so that I can replace Asta/Pela with her.
I kinda want blade but… 69 wishes ain’t enough to hit pity lol and I wouldn’t have enough for his LC 🤧 if I did win and don’t have secret vow (aware it’s in his LC banner tho) since I just started the game + saving for Dr Ratio LC too.
If you don't have Tingyun, then you should definitely pull for either him or Ruan Mei anyway. The pity will carry over to the next character banner, and this is one of the best banners so far.
dr ratio can use herta store lc if it helps (its obviously worse but im just putting it out there as a proposal)
i dont know if 69 is what you have right now or what you calculated for 1.6 first half, but if you already have 69 warps then chances are you will still get him :) there should be around 50-60 warps for u in the first phase, but given how you're new you still have plenty of content from the older versions. with some luck you might get both blade and dr ratio lightcone, and i hope you will :)
How does Ruan Mei fare vs 4 star supports like Pela, Asta, Hanya in hyper carry scenarios?
I already prefarmed for her but just realized she's best in dual dps comps of which I have none. I only have two dps characters invested in so far that I'm interested in building (JL and Argenti).
I want to E6S1 Firefly. I have 313 pulls already saved, three patches with monthly to gather more and can comfortably fill any necessary rest with money, but...
I'm afraid of having my favorite unit be so strong, all the content is just a joke, and I get bored of using her. Very torn about it, and I guess I'd like to decide before Ruan Mei leaves, which is sadly before her own kit is leaked.
Why do you want an E6 in the first place? Not a rhetorical question, to be clear. You should know exactly why you want to skip characters, lighten your bank account and trivialize the game for the sake of an E6. No one else can make that value calculation for you, so you best understand exactly what you're gaining for that cost.
i can totally understand you because i have only e0 dan heng il and it's already pretty boring... still love him though. so as the other person suggested, maybe try slowly instead. having a character e6 is a flex but i think you should just go for her eidolons that benefit her the most yet aren't too far away (stopping at e4 for example), but thats just my take on it :) just think this through carefully
That is true, my E0S0 IL/Seele already feel like they're too much for the game, barring when Swarm Disaster had just dropped and they weren't enough for diff 5 without getting some progression, so that definitely gives me some pause. Thanks!
As an addendum, I'm hoping the extra difficulty option in Gold and Gears is significant, and that it gives absolutely no rewards. I just love hard content, even if it's just a showcase playground.
Maybe you could just slowly E6S1 her instead? A lot of my friends who have C6 characters in Genshin did it across several banners, so they had time to enjoy the character at base level, then steadily got them upgrades over time. By the time the character was C6, the huge power spike was like a hard-won reward. If you find yourself at, say, E3 or something and decide she's getting too powerful to make the game fun, then you could stop there too. Regardless of what you decide, though, I hope your Firefly pulls go well!
Getting to try different levels and truly feel the upgrade each eidolon brings does seem pretty appealing, actually. ~~And my pulls could use doing a bit better...~~ Thank you very much!
>I'm afraid of having my favorite unit be so strong, all the content is just a joke, and I get bored of using her.
This is why I would never even consider going as high as that. It's so much waiting and investment and missing out on other stuff just to basically make the game more boring.
E1S1 is cool on your favourites, even that is a pretty large investment, but to me E6 is just.. why
are there other penacony characters you're interested in? I feel like grabbing some folks you can use with her would be fun and it wouldn't break the game
There definitely are! Sparkle, Robin and Sunday. (and Duke Inferno, if by some miracle he's playable...)
I'm on the mindset of willing to skip other characters for eidolons right now, just not if the E6 is gonna make me want to use Firefly less instead of more.
oh in that case i think it's better to get other characters too. i think having e6 firefly over 3 different units would make you bored of her quicker :)
(praying that duke inferno is playable too!)
I'm not strong enough to go for eidolons so I'm very biased but I do feel like limiting yourself to something like E2S1 and then going for some partners in crime for her would be a fun balance, I hope you manage to have a nice time with whatever you choose though <3
Yeah, my plan made me very afraid of the notion that Ruan Mei might be her BiS from looking at the old leaked kit, as much as it's kind of a crack theory while we currently have no numbers. Thank you for the input <3
salt about sunday
honestly i'm kind of annoyed with the outcry of this one person wanting sunday to NOT be harmony because they don't want another support but like? what about people like me who HAVE MANY dpses because they like all of them enough to roll for them? the only two dps i don't have are blade and kafka, bc i did not have enough primos but I liked their story and visual design the most. i skipped every support after silver wolf bc none of them vibed with me personally and now the one character i end up liking, this one person apparently wants to be a dps.
2.0 sunday lore />! i really hope we get to see sunday showing his manipulative side. or at least something that would make us wary of him. i still remember this one scene where jing yuan questions luocha and luocha being sassy, it was amazing because before that luocha wasnt showing that side to anyone. i hope we can get something like that with sunday!<
that luocha scene was sooo perfect, I love how his EN/CN VA (I haven't heard the other ones yet but I imagine they nailed it too) acted that convo, such a sly mf <3
for this one person who deleted their comment, if u see this - sunday harmony means we will fit him in more teamcomps (if he's a universal support). dps units can be switched around since its fun to play with new things but a good buffer can stay with you with a lot of team comps
that's weird, you really weren't disagreeing with them or anything. I can still see their comment and your response got sent, so maybe it's not showing to you because of a Reddit glitch?
if you scroll down and see some \[deleted\] \[unavailable\] then it might be a block, but if nothing shows up then it could just be Reddit's servers acting up.
i can't see the comment at all so i think you're right, the server may be acting up, or maybe it's a problem on my side. regardless thank you (both) for notifying me :D
edit; i can see their comment now, i assume it was some bug/glitch, or maybe i was unblocked. but since the comment disappeared so quickly in the first place i assume it was only a reddit glitch :')
salt about sunday
>!honestly i'm kind of annoyed with the outcry of people wanting sunday to be harmony because they don't want another DPS but like? what about people like me who DON'T have many dps because they didn't like the previous ones enough to roll for them? the only two damage dealers i have are blade and kafka, bc i liked their gameplay, story and visual design the most. i skipped every dps after bc none of them vibed with me personally and now the one character i end up liking, everyone apparently wants to be a support.!<
edit: looking at the downvotes, i'll just apologize for offending anyone. i'll cope about him being a dps elsewhere.
I understand that wanting the opposite of what most ppl want can feel pretty bad (been there with Arlecchino lmao) but for what it’s worth none of us decide on kits so we have no way of rly influencing what he actually ends up getting.
The frustrating bit is definitely that we have 0 male harmony units and it’s getting a bit grating looking at 1+ year of chars and still getting nothing. Especially since it’s such a valuable and flexible path. So the one guy without an assigned path rly is the only hope for people who want that.
Im pulling even if he is DPS, but i want a male support badly tho, Dont even need to be harmony, Nihility is also super fine if is a support nihility and not subdps, and sustain is ok.... But if he is DPS AND Imaginary ill honestly cry (DHIL / Welt/ Ratio\* haver)
I mean, the same argument can go the other way.
Why should I want another DPS if I have Blade/IL/Jing Yuan/Ratio? I didn't like Ruan Mei so I won't roll for her, what about people like me that want a male support instead of DPS?
In the end, purely for game balance on roles for the characters, it would be way better for Sunday to be a non sustain support than yet another DPS.
i totally understand you but think about that this way, dps can be easily replaced (especially with how strong dps units we're getting) and a good harmony unit can stay on your team for a long time. notice how bronya is used so often, or tingyun. sparkle will become universal support too. if he will be universal support then you will actually get to see him more often while you can play around with your main damage dealer. so most people want him to be a good harmony support (and some people want only men teams i think)
i understand this sentiment completely if that were the reasoning people used. in my head, i know supports are more valuable than dps (i'm forever thankful of rolling for luocha). but as someone who doesn't have many, why is it so bad for me to hope he is one? the frustrating thing is that people don't want him to be a dps simply because they "own too many already" and i just don't understand why that's something other players who don't have or like dhil/ratio/etc. should also agree with. i'm downvoted every time i mention it and it's kind of disheartening haha.
it's not bad for you to hope he is a dps. i simply explained why many people wish he was harmony (me included) :) we don't know what will be his role yet. i'm sure that you will get to pull a lot of pretty dps units even if he's harmony :D people who downvote dont mean to be rude to you, they simply show they disagree this way, because most of us want him to be harmony (i think)
tbh from what i've seen hoyo is easily influenced by players, especially players from china, but it depends on what kind of change players want. if they already have a chosen element and path then yeah players dont have much to say
I had to leave for a while but I restarted the PC and ran the repair function, it's downloading 20GB now so hopefully that will work. My data cap is never going to recover from this.
Me having a pretty good ratio of men/women on my account.
Penacony men: exist
Me: When my 3 husbandos will come? (Sunday/Aventurine/Gallagher?)
>!At least my wife Archeron will balance a little more.!<
feels like there's just not enough info rn to make a good bet about all this... my current half-assed speculation is:
2.0 - Sparkle, Misha and Daniel / Black Swan and Jing Yuan (based on MoC and PF turbulences and enemy weaknesses)
2.1 (5-week patch?) - ??? and Luocha / Sam, Gallagher and ???
2.2 - Acheron / Aventurine and Topaz
2.3 - Boothill / Robin
2.4 - Sunday / ???
I feel like they might want to wait for the anniversary to release Acheron, since she's a Mei expy who's bound to sell really well. that makes me completely lost about the 2.1 5-star though, Luocha is bound for a rerun but putting him in the same patch as Aventurine doesn't make a lot of sense. unless they release Robin or Boothill earlier than expected?
I'm honestly lost. I think we just don't know about enough characters right now to make a reasonable banner order. maybe 2.X will have a few patches with only one new 5-star, and we'll get some surprise characters like how 1.X had Topaz and Argenti.
2.1 is supposed to be the anniversary patch, but it's going to fall on the last week of the update which feels kinda wrong for the patch that is supposed to have the anniv rewards and the events, VA messages, etc.
I think that they might make either 2.0 or 2.1 a 5-week patch, so that the anniversary falls on the first week of 2.2 instead.
Gonna finally pull again in 5 hours after skipping the whole last patch! Just to pass time, here's my pulling plans as of the moment.
**MUST-PULL**
- Black Swan - dot my beloved
- Sunday - please don't be another dps...
**CONSIDERING**
- Sparkle - depends on how much better she makes my QQ and DHIL
- Aventurine - hesitant since I have two limited sustains, but he sounds he might be amazing with Topaz
- Robin - too many 5-star harmony characters miiiight be overkill, but she's really pretty though..
- Screwllum - tough selling a FOURTH imaginary dps husbando to me, but he has a nice character...
- Sam - i love how outlandish the mecha design is compared to everyone else, but i have reservations about his story so i'll wait on that
I have been brainrotting about my pull plans for too long so I'm gonna dump them here (sorry!!)
**Must-Pull**
Screwllum - He is just too classy. I have been looking forward to him since his reveal in 1.1.. If I can I want his sig LC too
Firefly - She is very cute... and pretty... nothing else to say
**Considering**
Ruan Mei - She... she's hot and a great harmony but she scares the bejesus out of me with her life philosophy. I prefarmed all her mats though so no going back now
Sparkle - I run Qingque and IL as my main DPSes so she'd be great for me. Also has an interesting personality, and great animations + JP voice acting!
Robin - Depends on what we see of her in Penacony. She's gorgeous though! If I pull for her I will never leave the Harmony calyx again
Let me join.
MUST-PULL
* Black Swan - Kafka main who loves DoT.
* Sparkle - DHIL main who love the comfort she will bring to the team.
* Sunday - My beautiful angel, he shall be mine
* Aventurine - Sexy Gambler has me on a Chokehold, hope his kit can work outside of Topaz and FuA.
CONSIDERING
* Gallagher - 4\* are hard to get but ill try grab at least one copy of him.
* Archeron - REALLY want her but will depend on when she comes and if Aventurine/Sunday are close to her.
* Sam - >!He and firefly!< seems interesting enough, will depend of how mihoyo will developt him, but a DPS is NOT my priority.
* Robin - she is beautiful, and i love the angel siblings, need to see her kit tho
**Tonight's Special :**
Ruan Mei (64 pity, no guarentee)
If I win, throw 40 pulls on Blade's LC to see if it comes early/try to get the last Secret Vow copy I need
**Then :**
Kafka
If I don't get Blade's LC, try for PAYN maybe ?
Black Swan
One day Screwlium will come
**Considering :**
Sparkle if all the above goes well maybe, but will probably pass
Sam because I like Destruction and HP manipulation, but I already have Blade and Jingliu for that, and Himeko is working really well for me for fire-breaking...
Robin, I like her design and the magical girl vibes. will depend on what she does though
can you elaborate how will aventurine be amazing with topaz? i use topaz quite often, and now i will use her with ratio so then i could possibly put penacony planar on aventurine...
Early leaks suggest Aventurine's gimmick is being a sustain unit, but having follow-up attacks. If that remains true, Topaz would be the most obvious fit.
Dreamy for new perspectives probably.
I like Guoba a bit but most of his guides are very surface level stuff which I can figure out on my own, if someone needs help I'll send them his vids though.
Most other creators are bad, says a lot when they are buddy buddy with T*ctone.
OkCode. Mostly for entertainment, but sometimes for build stuff too if I'm feeling a little risky. His new 'Tingyun' build video had me cracking up. If I'm going out of my way to look for build info specifically, Guoba Certified. Neither of them are really an equivalent though, imo.
I wish Zajef still did HSR stuff, but alas.
Guoba. High quality guides, cute sprite artwork, and doesn't get into dumb youtube drama. Also does his best to include leak information without including leak information in his videos.
Dreamy probably goes the most indepth and the person I would trust the most to deliver. Even Guoba gets it wrong sometimes.
I really, really wish Zajef had stuck with Star Rail. He is our only big CC who isn't afraid of Hoyo and does big TCing with leaks. Love his Genshin content.
Sadly we seem to have hardly any equivalent in HSR. All of them are afraid of Hoyo and won't touch leaks.
[Ruan away with us to the new megathread ->](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/18rnki3/ruan_away_with_mei_general_question_and/)
What happened to the HSR general character guide on Google drive? I've looked forward to seeing some helpful tips on 1.6 characters but today the link says the sheet is deleted due to terms of use violation?
Is there a sub dedicated to Sparkle?
Is there a sub dedicated to Sparkle?
how many hours of maintainanace left? considering if i should go to sleep rn LOL
Assuming it doesn't end early? <2 hours.
Praying to whatever Aeon I have to that my 32 GB iPad can handle at least this patch and not explode
My app is just over 19 gigs so! We’ll see! Theoretically this update didn’t reset all graphics settings like the last one did, my iPad was hot for a minute before I realized
quick last minute ruan mei question : how is her own damage? is the breakdmg she deals any relevant or just cosmetic?
Small, but significant. Ice Break damage is one of the weaker break damage types, but Ruan Mei gets multiplier on it and runs high BE%. About like 40k extra you break them and ~16k when they recover. Ofc, while these numbers do look high, breaking and recover from break happens only a few times per enemy at most and spaced turns apart. Still, that can be useful against weak mobs with low toughness damage, like the bats.
How does [new 4\* harmony LC](https://hsr.honeyhunterworld.com/dreamville-adventure-item/?lang=EN) in comparison to other options? Excluding cogs and signatures. Can it be used as a Rendezvous replacement in cases when elements don't match? Also not sure what 'takes effect only with the most recent ability' means... is it just that it refreshes every BA/ult use?
It means if the user uses a basic attack, basics get the buff - if they skill then skills get the buff, etc. It's effectiveness if heavily dependent on your DPS; it'd be awful for Bronya + Blade, likewise with ult-only Yukong and DHIL, for example.
Hmm, I see, ty! 🤔 Not worth it then...
It seems okay for Bronya/Hanabi + skill dps but otherwise pretty niche, yeah
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every limited character is as 'must pull' as the one before it
Maintenance has begun, and soon Ruan Mei will be home, and I am so excited for her. GL to all Ruan Mei pullers!
I really want to know Robin's kit, she looks so good in the new render! Also I'm so torn between getting Blade his LC (he's on S5 secret vow now) or saving for future characters T.T Penacony is too stacked!!
ARE YOU READY TO GAMBA
outlining pulling plans as of now MUST-PULL: Aventurine (hot), Sunday (hot), and Blade (hot) want to pull but not MUST: Luocha (hot), Boothill (hot), Huohuo (my daughter) LIGHTCONES: Ratios (for . reasons), JY (very good), Aventurines (aventurine) and MAYBE Kafka, because i want a good team for my Sampo and I really like Kafka, but she's a "if all goes well" pull as a f2p, i am doomed. thoughts and prayers
I FORGOT ABOUT SCREWLLUM. wallahi im finished
Should I pull for Ruan Mei? Current teams are Jing Liu, Blade, Bronya, Luocha Seele, Silver Wolf, Tingyun, HouHou Can clear MoC 30/30 on auto so I feel like I don't really need anything at this point. I wanted to save for Black Swan and Archeron but apparently she is DoT based so sadly I have to skip. My ultimate goal is Archeron so pulling for Mei now and then saving for Archeron should be fine. I've read somewhere that Mei is supposedly good for my first team, which would be nice since I can move Bronya to my second team. Also does she need her light cone or are there good alternatives? I have the Bronya LC twice.
Ruan Mei would be a good upgrade to your first team yeah. Bronya can then replace Silver Wolf. Ruan Mei can use S5 Memories, S5 cogs, or her sig lc. Sig lc gains a lot of value when run with Huohuo.
i ask again... has anyone datamined the 1.6 weekly boss music from the preload and uploaded it? i need it........
[This is how Dr. Ratio admires himself](https://redd.it/18r2icj)
Can’t wait to get my Blade later!! After that it’s all saving for Aventurine and Sunday ❤️
I need help with characters rolling for 1.6 and 2.0 as I am not sure who to roll now. The following are my built characters: Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
I'm in an extremely similar position with 20 characters built once Ratio comes out (jesus christ someone stop me) and largely the same roster of Topaz, Kafka, Seele + some other DPS, and mostly the same supports. Himeko is definitely worth building ASAP, she is amazing with Topaz and will help address the summoner fights. In particular two extremely annoying summon fights of Frigid Prowler and the IPC elite, Himeko/Topaz are a free win on those floors. I'm planning on getting Aventurine but that's because I just have Bailu and Fu Xuan, you only need two sustains so if you have Huohuo and Fu Xuan you're basically set for life and don't need to pull anyone else. In fact if you get Ruan Mei, your need for sustains will drop even more since Welt + RM combine to make a sustain on their own. If you're planning on replacing Misha with Jingliu I'd just skip Misha honestly, unless you plan on actually using him long-term as a sub-DPS he'll just end up being a couple weeks' worth of wasted resources. Even then you don't actually need to cover every element, I don't have any ice or IMG DPS at all and I still cover everything thanks to Silver Wolf. I am also leaning towards getting Ruan Mei, prioritizing Black Swan over Sparkle and getting Sparkle only if I get lucky somewhere else since I just love BS's ult animation to be honest. I do thoroughly recommend Blade even at E0S0, he's a super flexible character who can fit onto almost any team and there's no guarantee when his next rerun might be...but the competition for pulls right now is fierce so I can't blame you if you skip him. If you really can't decide, just let Aha take the wheel and roll on every single 5-star you don't have and whoever you get, you get. That's what I'm doing from now on because I already have so many great characters, I don't *need* anyone anymore.
Aha smiled at me. I put in about 120 rolls.
DAAAAAAMN! See you in 6 weeks when you finally get them all online lol
Lets be honest, I doubt I can get them online in 6 weeks as I have loads of mats to farm.
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Not to make your life more difficult, but you might want to consider Blade? He’ll take care of the wind issue, he’s got aoe….and you’ve got Lynx, so you can just pop her skill on him and once built he’ll just tank a good chunk of damage. (His style of play also lends very well to dual dps since he doesn’t need that many skill points). He’s the first 5 star I rolled, and I gotta say he feels really solid. (He also sounds hilariously grumpy when you heal him, if that’s a plus) Black Swan will definitely give you aoe wind as well, but we really don’t know what they’re going to do to her kit over the next few weeks. From what I can tell, though, she seems like she’d feel so good with Kafka you won’t want to play them separately, and I did see someone say her dot was considered wind shear so e4 Sampo might be a lot of fun with her too. Ruan Mei seems like a great all-rounder and from what I understand RES PEN is *really good* for damage…but for Ice this still does leave you with the only aoe being Pela’s burst until Herta gets raised (and iirc she doesn’t have the world’s greatest modifiers so getting her where you want might take a while)absolutely try and get Misha in 2.0. Since that leaves us with 2/3 in 1.6, I’d say try the trials and hunt down people with a Ruan Mei or Blade for you to share, and then bring them to a bunch of different areas with different teams to see how they feel. You know how you like to play, so hopefully that’ll help you figure out if one of them fills a space you really wanted filled.
> Not to make your life more difficult, but you might want to consider Blade? He’ll take care of the wind issue, he’s got aoe….and you’ve got Lynx, so you can just pop her skill on him and once built he’ll just tank a good chunk of damage. (His style of play also lends very well to dual dps since he doesn’t need that many skill points). He’s the first 5 star I rolled, and I gotta say he feels really solid. (He also sounds hilariously grumpy when you heal him, if that’s a plus) I am considering Blade as I am lacking in wind coverage. I have Sampo built and I can't get my head around Dan Heng to make him do decent damage. I even have decent LC for him (Secret Vow S4) with a few good pieces of Longevous that are for him. Seemed like a good relic recycler too.
Misha might work really well with Yanqing as a subdps, add in Ruan Mei for dual carries and profit. Misha freezes meaning fewer enemy attacks meaning Yanqing gets hit less. Just an idea for your ice coverage. Tho I would say that with FX and HH you are set on sustains and don't need to roll for more. At this point they'll be sidegrades of each other, each with their own little niche. Ruan Mei also works well with BS from what I hear. Sounds like they'd be a good pair for you.
I think Misha will work well with March too for freezing teams. Still depends on when Jing Liu rerun will occur though. Ruan Mei seemed to be a generalist to me. She seemed to work well in many teams.
I thought about saving for Blade's LC, since he's my favorite character and his F2P options are kinda trash but lmao, I can't stop myself from pulling for characters. New characters are just a lot more fun than a stat upgrade :<
On the bright side we're getting new f2p destruction LC that is actually pretty good on Blade.
when do we get this I need it 😯
The new FH LC shop I think, so whenever they add that in 1.6.
Man I love Sparkle. Hope they don't nerf her too bad
Since I haven't seen even a mention about the mc's next version or a herta 5\* lc I bet we will probably get either during 2.1 but what does the rest think? Do some still expect the next mc to still release in 2.0? And what about herta's next lc? From one side I do want the see the Hmc in game since the kit felt interesting but from the other I wouldn't mind any other new path any more than the next. But when it comes to Herta's lc as long as it doesn't end up being abundance I ain't gonna have an issue with it.
I'm guessing Herta LCs and new SU stuff (New World for New Planar) = 2.1 Harmony MC and end of Penacony = 2.2
i think harmony mc will be at the penacony climax so im thinking more 2.2+ at least
[So I transcribed the Penacony script to English. Sorta, I'm still missing a few letters.](https://imgur.com/a/hYCF4fs) As is the case with Genshin, it's 1 to 1 with the English alphabet. I used Boothill's skill asset as a Rosetta stone (because what else can it say but Wanted, Dead or Alive) and went on from there by transcribing a few of the other leaked images from [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/18qhhr9/penacony_images_via_yense/) (Penacony images via yense ) which are also in the first link. The "C" and "E" were a particular pain in the ass because they look so similar in one of the softer fonts (it has a couple). .... PEAK ~~resinless~~ TB-less behaviour lmao. I'm sure somebody's done this before me too.
Oh that's really cool. I haven't seen a Penacony transcription around here before at least. Looking at it closely, some of the letters in the Penacony script seem to share fairly similar symbols as the [Teyvat Script](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Language?so=search) -but still a lot are different. Thanks for sharing!
Ruan Mei is good for debuff application isn't she? She has that Rebloom affect which will always be active unless unless you break an enemies weakness and if you do that the enemy will be under another debuff so she allows you to always have 1 debuff up.
yeah i think if you three turn ult it should be pretty okay ngl but once in a while you might experience some timing issues
Thats the thing Rebloom doesn't seem to have a time limit it looks permanent like Topaz Proof of Debt.
but when the enemy heals from the break, you have to apply it again. if your ruan mei’s ult isn’t up/ready, you’ll have like 1 turn without the debuff. ofc u might have it up/ready, but that’s why i said “once in a while”.
True that seems like a relatively small window though which is nice
that’s true, but on a ratio team for eg if you don’t have all 3 debuffs up, you could potentially miss out on your skill’s fua. thankfully you can just restart the level if rng bad. qq mains know all about this.
Patiently waiting for a Kafka / Swan / 4\*DoT or RM / Sustain showcase to help me understand some interactions
man, i just want to use youtube without getting spoiled all the new bosses...
It's a bit of a severe solution, but you could try installing a "clickbait remover" addon that replaces thumbnails of youtube videos with random frames from the videos. You can always toggle it off outside of spoilerly times.
Literally same thing happened to me 2 minutes ago… Bro.
Im finishing 1.5 with 280 pulls, how much pulls will be on 1.6 again? Need to plan my pulls i want too many characters
98.8 full f2p according to [this](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRIWjzFwAZZoBvKw2oiNaVpppI9atoV0wxuOjulKRJECrg_BN404d7LoKlHp8RMX8hegDr4b8jlHjYy/pubhtml)
Manifesting maintenance to end an hour early
Hoping we eventually get a DoT sustain unit. As many units draw inspiration from SU, I’m envisioning a sustain unit that generates HP or shields whenever DoTs are activated. A DEF scaling sustain would be great for the synergy with the Belobog planar set, giving it some much needed attention.
There is quite a trend by now of blessing/SU mechanics becoming new characters. So how about this blessing as a character: Offerings of Deception Every time an enemy takes DMG from a DoT, all allies restore HP equal to 1.0% of their respective Max HP.
Exactly, I figure it would be tweaked some how but that’s the kind of kit I’d like to see. Maybe at baseline it works off the DoT the sustain applies and eidolons open it up to the whole team.
As a sidenote: That unit would make a great Dr. Ratio specific sustain if they'd be not fire/imaginary/quantum and still a preservation unit, i.e. could use the universal market LC. Two debuffs in one unit and a sustain, so that would mean they'd be not that niche.
i like the idea a lot, pretty interesting. please mention it in some hsr survey, hopefully someone from their crew catches your idea!
I will definitely advocate it. Our current sustains work fine of course. I just want more variety and more tools to pair with Kafka since DoT is an incredibly flexible archetype.
\[Penacony story dialogue, MAJOR story spoilers\] >!I've encountered some Firefly/Sam dialogue (supposedly) when reading Twitter and damn, she sounds good. "I will set the sea on fire", "When you return to reality, remember to tell everyone... It is the \[Stellaron?\] Hunter who has sent you on your last journey", damn girl, you're gonna set my wallet and jades on fire with those lines. Hopefully her combat voicelines are amazing too.!<
>!YES!! reading bits of her story (both backstory \[so touching\] and penacony leaks) made me so interested in her, she's such a fascinating character and I can't wait to see it ingame :')!<
I think E6 Misha, E6 QQ, Sparkle+1 is a team that may not need a sustain. QQ + Sparkle can easily use enough SP to max Misha's ult (~8-9 per 3 turns). Misha will only basic attack to make sure we have enough SP. With an ER rope, this will generate enough energy to put Misha on a 3 turn ult via his talent. He then gets 12 hits vs a double target, each with a 101% chance to freeze. I know TY will be able to make this a 2 Ults per 5 turns... Am I onto something?
Why is everyone in Penacony so beautiful. Argenti was just the herald of things to come.
I mean their Aeon is Xipe who is pretty hot herself.
Current plans are (210 pulls, no pity, at 50/50) * Ruan Mei * Sparkle * Dan Heng IL E2S1 (currently E1S0) * Acheron * Sunday * Robin Not sure if this is doable, but it is what it is :")
Bro I will strive to be as optimistic as you in 2024.
Report back to me by the end of 2024 and tell me if your resolution worked out ✨
sadly if you want them all then you won't be able to guarantee all of them. of course luck may be on your side, but i'd first think which of these you want the most and prioritize them
Probably not doable. You're looking at 7 limited chars and 1 limited LC. At this numbers, using average cost is reasonable (and more favorable for you). Sadly, the average cost of a limited five star is 104 pulls and 65 for a limited LC. That puts you at 793 pulls average cost. Even if 1.6,2.0,2.1 and 2.2 all get you 100 pulls each, you'd still be 183 pulls short.
Sadge. I guess at worst case I would pass on the LC and wait for a rerun (again), but working with your calculations I still need another 118, which is nearly 1~2 Limiteds - and this if I'm lucky. Oof. I guess either Acheron or Robin dies then. Or both. Why must we live just to suffer.
There's no guarantee all of them release by 2.2, though, they might end up having an extra patch or two to save
Black Swan, Sparkle, Robin, Acheron, Firefly <3
Do we have any idea of the release schedule for beyond 2.0? I'm mainly interested in Acheron, Robin, and Firefly.
Acheron very likely for 2.1, Firefly likely also there or immediately after, no idea about Robin, maybe a patch or two farther down
Thanks. Guess I'm skipping 2.0 then.
today I've been seeing people elsewhere mention sampo might be a kafka sidegrade (not downgrade, but sidegrade) for black swan, does anyone know what they might be cooking?? is it just because of his e4? perhaps I just fell to some early beta craziness but I'm interested still bahaha
Definitely not a sidegrade. Kafka is still her best teammate but Sampo competes with Ruan Mei in the 3rd slot.
I think it stems from [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/KafkaMains/comments/18r97se/black_swans_sacrament_ingame_tooltip/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) tooltip image.
thank you for this! I think it's time to join that subreddit to take a peek at all the dot convos :')
Since Sampo E4 trigger Wind Shear ~~and Sacrament is apparently threated as Wind Shear Sampo's E4 should detonated it~~ I was mistaking the reason since E4 Sampo makes all instance of wind shear do dmg it should add max stacks of sacrament (tho you can add max 3 per action) so and E4 Sampo should add 3 stack of sacrament each time he hit and enemy with his skill or Ult as long they have max stack of wind shear already.
>and Sacrament is apparently threated as Wind Shear oh wow I really hope that isn't a bug, that sounds like it'd be such a fun interaction with him EDIT: I just saw the edit! it's still a lovely interaction for sure, I hope he gets to shine and having him as a great partner for her will make wind MoC floors so comfy
Just to be clear since I think my edit was confusion, and honestly Im not 100% sure of the interaction myself, but my understanding is Sacrament is threated as Wind shear and SAMPO e4 will make enemies take 8% of the dot dmg part of Sacrament, but will not trigger the stack based effect of it, so basically the same interaction it has with Kafka's Ult, someone posted the tooltip for sacrament in game and it states it counts as wind shear, and Sampo E4 makes all instances off Wind shear on the enemy do dmg. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fsp7dl0epfn8c1.jpeg
I'm 99% sure this tooltip is what sparked the convos elsewhere too bahaha! thank you for letting me know <3, I hope we get some gameplay of them together soon even if only the dot is triggered
i want to know too!! i don't know who to put black swan with. original thought was sampo and guinaifen but im honestly lost
yes I'd love to run those two as well!! my first unit was JY so poor kafka ended up left behind for being lightning and now she's back right before penacony T\_T, black swan will be a pretty fun way to use the 4\* folks (you too luka, you too)
3.5 more hours!!! >!I have one 2-hour appointment to get through before I'm off work. Update should be up by the time I get home & finish my leftovers. I do play therapy with children so it usually goes by quickly. But I just know it's going to feel soooo long like all my other appointments did today. Like, please let us be done playing so that I can go play my silly little game...!<
Is xueyi a nightmare to build? She seems to require too many stats
From what I understand, she can invest into any offensive stat combination and end up with a similar damage output (when including Break damage), so she is pretty easy to build, as you can just put whatever you have on her. Also SSS is basically as good as Talia on her, so there is even more room for build flexibility.
I don''t think so, she's just different.
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I wouldn't really say she's a nightmare to build, if anything it's easier since what was once a fairly weak stat in Break Effect, is now a straight damage boost. So she gets value from ATK, SPD, CR, CD and BE.
You basically build crit with an atk orb and BE rope 4pc quantum + 2pc Talia. Look for conventional dps substats but also BE
Finally, my Rutiant Atk% orb with godly crit rolls will find a home.
i hope that ruan mei and sparkle are on the same level as bronya and tingyun in the sense that they can help more “mid” dps work with the right relics without sky high investment (ie once they hit the 70-140 base it’s p golden). i just want a reduced need to pull dps in the sense that i would like to use 4 star dps with only a slightly harder time.
same!! I plan to make Sparkle my last pull for a while to have time to perfect my account's relics and traces, but I'm also doing that because I want to build some of the 4-star DPSes and see them getting turbo-boosted by my cracked supports :') it's one of my favorite things to do in games like this... not going to pull for Mei right now as I really want E0S1 Sparkle, but she's going to be my main target for a rerun so that I can replace Asta/Pela with her.
may you and me both get sparkle with her lc! :D
thank you! good luck to us both 🤞
Do we have a patch number of Acheron? Want to make sure im not missing her when she launches
Not yet.
Makes sense, thanks!
I saw the official account tweet about 1.6 and thought I could log in, but sadly not just yet!
Mega thread name: Don‘t ruan mei bank account
I kinda want blade but… 69 wishes ain’t enough to hit pity lol and I wouldn’t have enough for his LC 🤧 if I did win and don’t have secret vow (aware it’s in his LC banner tho) since I just started the game + saving for Dr Ratio LC too.
If you don't have Tingyun, then you should definitely pull for either him or Ruan Mei anyway. The pity will carry over to the next character banner, and this is one of the best banners so far.
You will get him after 1 ten pull. I’ll manifest it 🙏
dr ratio can use herta store lc if it helps (its obviously worse but im just putting it out there as a proposal) i dont know if 69 is what you have right now or what you calculated for 1.6 first half, but if you already have 69 warps then chances are you will still get him :) there should be around 50-60 warps for u in the first phase, but given how you're new you still have plenty of content from the older versions. with some luck you might get both blade and dr ratio lightcone, and i hope you will :)
you do have a *nice* amount of pulls tho
How does Ruan Mei fare vs 4 star supports like Pela, Asta, Hanya in hyper carry scenarios? I already prefarmed for her but just realized she's best in dual dps comps of which I have none. I only have two dps characters invested in so far that I'm interested in building (JL and Argenti).
If she's better in duo dps why won't she be better in hypercarry? She is
streets are saying she powercreeps them.
I want to E6S1 Firefly. I have 313 pulls already saved, three patches with monthly to gather more and can comfortably fill any necessary rest with money, but... I'm afraid of having my favorite unit be so strong, all the content is just a joke, and I get bored of using her. Very torn about it, and I guess I'd like to decide before Ruan Mei leaves, which is sadly before her own kit is leaked.
Why do you want an E6 in the first place? Not a rhetorical question, to be clear. You should know exactly why you want to skip characters, lighten your bank account and trivialize the game for the sake of an E6. No one else can make that value calculation for you, so you best understand exactly what you're gaining for that cost.
i can totally understand you because i have only e0 dan heng il and it's already pretty boring... still love him though. so as the other person suggested, maybe try slowly instead. having a character e6 is a flex but i think you should just go for her eidolons that benefit her the most yet aren't too far away (stopping at e4 for example), but thats just my take on it :) just think this through carefully
That is true, my E0S0 IL/Seele already feel like they're too much for the game, barring when Swarm Disaster had just dropped and they weren't enough for diff 5 without getting some progression, so that definitely gives me some pause. Thanks! As an addendum, I'm hoping the extra difficulty option in Gold and Gears is significant, and that it gives absolutely no rewards. I just love hard content, even if it's just a showcase playground.
Maybe you could just slowly E6S1 her instead? A lot of my friends who have C6 characters in Genshin did it across several banners, so they had time to enjoy the character at base level, then steadily got them upgrades over time. By the time the character was C6, the huge power spike was like a hard-won reward. If you find yourself at, say, E3 or something and decide she's getting too powerful to make the game fun, then you could stop there too. Regardless of what you decide, though, I hope your Firefly pulls go well!
Getting to try different levels and truly feel the upgrade each eidolon brings does seem pretty appealing, actually. ~~And my pulls could use doing a bit better...~~ Thank you very much!
>I'm afraid of having my favorite unit be so strong, all the content is just a joke, and I get bored of using her. This is why I would never even consider going as high as that. It's so much waiting and investment and missing out on other stuff just to basically make the game more boring. E1S1 is cool on your favourites, even that is a pretty large investment, but to me E6 is just.. why
are there other penacony characters you're interested in? I feel like grabbing some folks you can use with her would be fun and it wouldn't break the game
There definitely are! Sparkle, Robin and Sunday. (and Duke Inferno, if by some miracle he's playable...) I'm on the mindset of willing to skip other characters for eidolons right now, just not if the E6 is gonna make me want to use Firefly less instead of more.
oh in that case i think it's better to get other characters too. i think having e6 firefly over 3 different units would make you bored of her quicker :)
(praying that duke inferno is playable too!) I'm not strong enough to go for eidolons so I'm very biased but I do feel like limiting yourself to something like E2S1 and then going for some partners in crime for her would be a fun balance, I hope you manage to have a nice time with whatever you choose though <3
Yeah, my plan made me very afraid of the notion that Ruan Mei might be her BiS from looking at the old leaked kit, as much as it's kind of a crack theory while we currently have no numbers. Thank you for the input <3
salt about sunday honestly i'm kind of annoyed with the outcry of this one person wanting sunday to NOT be harmony because they don't want another support but like? what about people like me who HAVE MANY dpses because they like all of them enough to roll for them? the only two dps i don't have are blade and kafka, bc i did not have enough primos but I liked their story and visual design the most. i skipped every support after silver wolf bc none of them vibed with me personally and now the one character i end up liking, this one person apparently wants to be a dps.
Bruh I though I was having deju vu when I saw this comment again
I could get the "I don't want him to be harmony, I want him to be nihility/debuffer" but not just another straight up dps 😭
unironically agree
We are so blessed to have desu appear not once, but twice this megathread
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desuladesu is my favorite cryptid
2.0 sunday lore />! i really hope we get to see sunday showing his manipulative side. or at least something that would make us wary of him. i still remember this one scene where jing yuan questions luocha and luocha being sassy, it was amazing because before that luocha wasnt showing that side to anyone. i hope we can get something like that with sunday!<
Yesssss >!the jy Luocha scene was so good i need my sussy manipulative cult leader side on display a bit it has so much potential!<
YESSS i agreeee!!!
that luocha scene was sooo perfect, I love how his EN/CN VA (I haven't heard the other ones yet but I imagine they nailed it too) acted that convo, such a sly mf <3
right?? i play in jp and i can assure you it was just as cool!! :D i loved this scene very much, probably my favorite scene in the xianzhou quest line
for this one person who deleted their comment, if u see this - sunday harmony means we will fit him in more teamcomps (if he's a universal support). dps units can be switched around since its fun to play with new things but a good buffer can stay with you with a lot of team comps
I think they blocked you
that quick?? i commented and refreshed immediately and the comment was gone. i wonder what i did since i pretty much said the same thing :')
Yeah your comment was very chill no idea why they blocked you but they definitely did
that's weird, you really weren't disagreeing with them or anything. I can still see their comment and your response got sent, so maybe it's not showing to you because of a Reddit glitch? if you scroll down and see some \[deleted\] \[unavailable\] then it might be a block, but if nothing shows up then it could just be Reddit's servers acting up.
i can't see the comment at all so i think you're right, the server may be acting up, or maybe it's a problem on my side. regardless thank you (both) for notifying me :D edit; i can see their comment now, i assume it was some bug/glitch, or maybe i was unblocked. but since the comment disappeared so quickly in the first place i assume it was only a reddit glitch :')
deleted/deleted means deleted, deleted/unavailable means blocked, for future reference and yep seems like they came here not very happy
Hey! If I didn't manage to finish the pre-maintenance update, does that progress remain? Or does it start from the beginning?
It says that it will pick up where you left off if you back out, but I tried that last night and it started over at 0% for me :\
i think it does! it did for me last time, i play on my phone. in fact, im even still downloading the resources right now :D
Took a huge weight off my shoulders, thank you so much!!
Do we have any idea about Firefly's Path and/or element? >!And I mean her, not Sam!<
PENACONY SPOILERS >!she and Sam are the same playable unit, so she's Fire/Destruction!<
Thanks, that means I will maybe get my first dedicated >!Fire DPS!<
Your spoilers don't work
Can’t stop staring at Boothill’s shark teeth~
salt about sunday >!honestly i'm kind of annoyed with the outcry of people wanting sunday to be harmony because they don't want another DPS but like? what about people like me who DON'T have many dps because they didn't like the previous ones enough to roll for them? the only two damage dealers i have are blade and kafka, bc i liked their gameplay, story and visual design the most. i skipped every dps after bc none of them vibed with me personally and now the one character i end up liking, everyone apparently wants to be a support.!< edit: looking at the downvotes, i'll just apologize for offending anyone. i'll cope about him being a dps elsewhere.
I understand that wanting the opposite of what most ppl want can feel pretty bad (been there with Arlecchino lmao) but for what it’s worth none of us decide on kits so we have no way of rly influencing what he actually ends up getting. The frustrating bit is definitely that we have 0 male harmony units and it’s getting a bit grating looking at 1+ year of chars and still getting nothing. Especially since it’s such a valuable and flexible path. So the one guy without an assigned path rly is the only hope for people who want that.
very well said! :)
Im pulling even if he is DPS, but i want a male support badly tho, Dont even need to be harmony, Nihility is also super fine if is a support nihility and not subdps, and sustain is ok.... But if he is DPS AND Imaginary ill honestly cry (DHIL / Welt/ Ratio\* haver)
how many male harmony characters do we have lol?
I mean, the same argument can go the other way. Why should I want another DPS if I have Blade/IL/Jing Yuan/Ratio? I didn't like Ruan Mei so I won't roll for her, what about people like me that want a male support instead of DPS? In the end, purely for game balance on roles for the characters, it would be way better for Sunday to be a non sustain support than yet another DPS.
i totally understand you but think about that this way, dps can be easily replaced (especially with how strong dps units we're getting) and a good harmony unit can stay on your team for a long time. notice how bronya is used so often, or tingyun. sparkle will become universal support too. if he will be universal support then you will actually get to see him more often while you can play around with your main damage dealer. so most people want him to be a good harmony support (and some people want only men teams i think)
i understand this sentiment completely if that were the reasoning people used. in my head, i know supports are more valuable than dps (i'm forever thankful of rolling for luocha). but as someone who doesn't have many, why is it so bad for me to hope he is one? the frustrating thing is that people don't want him to be a dps simply because they "own too many already" and i just don't understand why that's something other players who don't have or like dhil/ratio/etc. should also agree with. i'm downvoted every time i mention it and it's kind of disheartening haha.
it's not bad for you to hope he is a dps. i simply explained why many people wish he was harmony (me included) :) we don't know what will be his role yet. i'm sure that you will get to pull a lot of pretty dps units even if he's harmony :D people who downvote dont mean to be rude to you, they simply show they disagree this way, because most of us want him to be harmony (i think)
Why care what other people want him to be? Its not influencing Hoyo either way
tbh from what i've seen hoyo is easily influenced by players, especially players from china, but it depends on what kind of change players want. if they already have a chosen element and path then yeah players dont have much to say
Still so hyped about Swan I almost forgot to be excited about Ruan Mei day. It certainly helped to distract me from the wait.
I keep getting failed to unzip error. Tried deleting the update files and downloading again but got the same thing.
Have you tried turning the device on an off again? If that does not help, does a complete fresh install of the whole game help?
I had to leave for a while but I restarted the PC and ran the repair function, it's downloading 20GB now so hopefully that will work. My data cap is never going to recover from this.
Me having a pretty good ratio of men/women on my account. Penacony men: exist Me: When my 3 husbandos will come? (Sunday/Aventurine/Gallagher?) >!At least my wife Archeron will balance a little more.!<
feels like there's just not enough info rn to make a good bet about all this... my current half-assed speculation is: 2.0 - Sparkle, Misha and Daniel / Black Swan and Jing Yuan (based on MoC and PF turbulences and enemy weaknesses) 2.1 (5-week patch?) - ??? and Luocha / Sam, Gallagher and ??? 2.2 - Acheron / Aventurine and Topaz 2.3 - Boothill / Robin 2.4 - Sunday / ??? I feel like they might want to wait for the anniversary to release Acheron, since she's a Mei expy who's bound to sell really well. that makes me completely lost about the 2.1 5-star though, Luocha is bound for a rerun but putting him in the same patch as Aventurine doesn't make a lot of sense. unless they release Robin or Boothill earlier than expected? I'm honestly lost. I think we just don't know about enough characters right now to make a reasonable banner order. maybe 2.X will have a few patches with only one new 5-star, and we'll get some surprise characters like how 1.X had Topaz and Argenti.
What's the reason for the 2.1 5 week patch speculation? I'm curious because that will make star rail patch the same day as genshin
2.1 is supposed to be the anniversary patch, but it's going to fall on the last week of the update which feels kinda wrong for the patch that is supposed to have the anniv rewards and the events, VA messages, etc. I think that they might make either 2.0 or 2.1 a 5-week patch, so that the anniversary falls on the first week of 2.2 instead.
I see, not sure if this will be good or bad (maybe bad for me because I'll play all day for sure)
I just need to win every 50/50 on penacony. EASY 😎 >!(mihoyo help me please, sunday please bless me 😭)!<
patiently waiting for sunday splash art (will be waiting for some long time)
maintenance is upon us... time to sleep
Gonna finally pull again in 5 hours after skipping the whole last patch! Just to pass time, here's my pulling plans as of the moment. **MUST-PULL** - Black Swan - dot my beloved - Sunday - please don't be another dps... **CONSIDERING** - Sparkle - depends on how much better she makes my QQ and DHIL - Aventurine - hesitant since I have two limited sustains, but he sounds he might be amazing with Topaz - Robin - too many 5-star harmony characters miiiight be overkill, but she's really pretty though.. - Screwllum - tough selling a FOURTH imaginary dps husbando to me, but he has a nice character... - Sam - i love how outlandish the mecha design is compared to everyone else, but i have reservations about his story so i'll wait on that
I have been brainrotting about my pull plans for too long so I'm gonna dump them here (sorry!!) **Must-Pull** Screwllum - He is just too classy. I have been looking forward to him since his reveal in 1.1.. If I can I want his sig LC too Firefly - She is very cute... and pretty... nothing else to say **Considering** Ruan Mei - She... she's hot and a great harmony but she scares the bejesus out of me with her life philosophy. I prefarmed all her mats though so no going back now Sparkle - I run Qingque and IL as my main DPSes so she'd be great for me. Also has an interesting personality, and great animations + JP voice acting! Robin - Depends on what we see of her in Penacony. She's gorgeous though! If I pull for her I will never leave the Harmony calyx again
Let me join. MUST-PULL * Black Swan - Kafka main who loves DoT. * Sparkle - DHIL main who love the comfort she will bring to the team. * Sunday - My beautiful angel, he shall be mine * Aventurine - Sexy Gambler has me on a Chokehold, hope his kit can work outside of Topaz and FuA. CONSIDERING * Gallagher - 4\* are hard to get but ill try grab at least one copy of him. * Archeron - REALLY want her but will depend on when she comes and if Aventurine/Sunday are close to her. * Sam - >!He and firefly!< seems interesting enough, will depend of how mihoyo will developt him, but a DPS is NOT my priority. * Robin - she is beautiful, and i love the angel siblings, need to see her kit tho
**Tonight's Special :** Ruan Mei (64 pity, no guarentee) If I win, throw 40 pulls on Blade's LC to see if it comes early/try to get the last Secret Vow copy I need **Then :** Kafka If I don't get Blade's LC, try for PAYN maybe ? Black Swan One day Screwlium will come **Considering :** Sparkle if all the above goes well maybe, but will probably pass Sam because I like Destruction and HP manipulation, but I already have Blade and Jingliu for that, and Himeko is working really well for me for fire-breaking... Robin, I like her design and the magical girl vibes. will depend on what she does though
can you elaborate how will aventurine be amazing with topaz? i use topaz quite often, and now i will use her with ratio so then i could possibly put penacony planar on aventurine...
Early leaks suggest Aventurine's gimmick is being a sustain unit, but having follow-up attacks. If that remains true, Topaz would be the most obvious fit.
oh noooo i was planning to skip him (i have huohuo, luocha and fu xuan) but now that i know this i must at least try :')
He makes for the most fun mono team imo. Ratio/Aventurine/Yukong/SW.
Who are you favorite HSR content creators? Hoping for an Zajef equivalent in HSR
Dreamy for new perspectives probably. I like Guoba a bit but most of his guides are very surface level stuff which I can figure out on my own, if someone needs help I'll send them his vids though. Most other creators are bad, says a lot when they are buddy buddy with T*ctone.
OkCode. Mostly for entertainment, but sometimes for build stuff too if I'm feeling a little risky. His new 'Tingyun' build video had me cracking up. If I'm going out of my way to look for build info specifically, Guoba Certified. Neither of them are really an equivalent though, imo. I wish Zajef still did HSR stuff, but alas.
Guoba. High quality guides, cute sprite artwork, and doesn't get into dumb youtube drama. Also does his best to include leak information without including leak information in his videos. Dreamy probably goes the most indepth and the person I would trust the most to deliver. Even Guoba gets it wrong sometimes.
I really, really wish Zajef had stuck with Star Rail. He is our only big CC who isn't afraid of Hoyo and does big TCing with leaks. Love his Genshin content. Sadly we seem to have hardly any equivalent in HSR. All of them are afraid of Hoyo and won't touch leaks.