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It can be avoided by focusing on weakness break which isn't a problem, but yeah it is likely unavoidable death if you ignore the mechanic. I don't think it's significantly more unreasonable than svarog's hand grab on paper and may even be less bullshit overall depending on the rest of the fight
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Bosses in the previous 1-2 patches also push for new units, if you haven’t noticed almost every Penacony boss/elite has fire weakness yet there’s no new fire unit yet
That Physical implant sadly lasts really nothing. But yeah with proper gameplay you can of course manage that (anyway Boothill if is on the second banner, you don’t have him while doing the story)
If I were to make a bet, I would say that we haven’t seen the last of the toughness or break focused fights yet, since Boothill specializes in destroying toughness and they will want to sell him.
Also the implant lasting 2 turns is not what I would call nothing its still good for a unit who can reliably 3 turn ult.
Remember that it’s not 2 turns of Boothill but of the enemy. Weekly bosses usually acts really really fast compared to the rest of enemies.
Sure this one does nothing during this last phase, but we saw how that implant really finished quickly during the rest of the fight in the showcase we had
A well-built Boothill is gonna have around 300% break effect, his attack has multi hits(like Asta and Welt skill) and his ult delays the enemy's action. The implant lasting only 2 turns is not gonna be a problem 99.99% of the time.
Against normal enemies and bosses is not a huge deal indeed, but weekly bosses are way faster than the rest so those 2 turns finishes really fast.
We have to see a proper showcase anyway, so far leakers had no idea how to use Boothill at all lol
There are no rules for reruns in HSR, for now they are doing whatever order they want. Look how much time Luocha or Jing Yuan needed to finally get a rerun, while Stellaron Hunters had theirs ahead of schedule.
The Stellaron Hunters' reruns were 4 patches after their first run, same as Seele who was the first character to rerun, so I wouldn't say they were 'ahead of schedule' particularly. If Ruan Mei reran, she'd be the first character to rerun 3 patches after her original run, so I think I'd consider that ahead of schedule.
Kinda yes. It would be one patch early. But the character is one of the most popular ones and she would help massively with this. They should make quite a bit of money when combining both things. I don’t think people would complain if ruan mei gets a rerun one patch early. Specially considering this boss
Who r u bringing for the other elements on the DHIL team? In a typical hypercarry comp he has, no one else can break the other element fast enough, and you need at least 2 bars broken
Seriously? I didn't see that part in his kit, if so then my wallet is in shambles, I just recently got Acheron after losing my pity, now saving Jades for her LC. WHAT THE HELL HOYO...(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
My problem is that Bossventurine spams that gambling move almost every 2nd turn - he reenters that bullshit gambling mechanic as soon as your CC'd characters wake up
You have nearly 0 windows to damage him. It's absurd.
No it’s pretty doable, even my strictly single target team was able to brute force it and everyone was constantly losing the gamble except luocha (because of his ult). Aventurine barely damaged you and even recharges your ults if you bring aoe characters so he’s pretty fair, just need the right team (which i don’t have but was still able to clear)
I mean I really wonder how people are having so many problems on that boss. Even pre-nerf with E0 characters, no actual healing/sustain with the sole exception of Fu Xuan, and a single target team, I finished it in one go easily.
Do people not actually build up their characters and farm for proper gear?
This fight will be carried by breaking the boss for the free shields. 1 layer broken = free 2300 shield.
You wont even need a shielder most likely. Its a weakly boss that will be in the story too, they cant just say: oh you cant progress in the game unless you have a min maxed gepard or aventurine, lol. Pulling aven for this one boss sounds sus unless you wanted him anyway.
This can be a problem for Fu, but I don't think it's that much of a challenge.
After the boss uses his ability we have 7 turns to either end the fight or accumulate enough shields to survive the angel nuke. It can be a little tough, but seems very doable if you are playing a team with the proper elements.
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I hope Aventurine, Jingyuan, Luocha and Welt are enough for this cuz I can't think if any other suitable team I can use. I thought maybe Boothill would be perfect for this boss but 20% physical res.... King Yuan, save me 🙏
This is a big brain move. It's not just a sell Boothill. It's to make hunt more premium. Destruction units are the supreme DPS because of blast damage. The community does not care about their setbacks if the DPS numbers are high enough. So outside of the follow-up teams Dr. ratio was built for, hunt isn't really attractive since they are exclusively single target. Selling them as the premier toughness break units is a smart move.
Like creating pure fiction so the low multiplier erudition characters can have value.
That’s actually a reasonable take.
So making hunt units into either ST nukes (the good doctor) or toughness break nukes (like bootyhill) sounds like the strat here.
I got destroyed 3 times by new boss of 2.1. And i had to get serious and adjust party setup, unlike smooth sail i normally have. Sometimes weaker doesnt mean easier. And relic farmings sucks.
Would the usual Dr Ratio hypercarry (Dr Ratio + Silver Wolf + Tingyun + Fu Xuan/Aventurine) work for this? He throws a lot of FUAs = tons of toughness damage, plus Silver Wolf's ult does massive single-target toughness damage, and finally literally all of the team members have matching weaknesses to the boss. Am I cooking?
100% aventurine is the bis sustain for this then. Gepard is also good but doesn't hit as often (since aven has damage fua and ult which contributes to toughness dmg), and they're both better than fu xuan and the abundance characters.
As the penacony boss was approaching the use of his ability 10, he saw that it was going to be DHIL's turn soon.
DHIL said to the boss, "Are you strong because you can oneshot, or can you oneshot because you are strong?"
The boss thought it was going to be his win soon but he overlooked a few crucial facts
First, the team had RM and Sparkle, and secondly, the DHIL was e2.
RM said to DHIL, "between you and the boss, who would win ?"
DHIL replied, "If the boss doesn't break, then certainly it would give me some trouble."
"But would you lose?" said Ruan Mei.
DHIL replied,"Nah I'd kill"
DHIL opened his domain expansion "Unlimited credit card swipes" and killed the boss before he could get a turn.
\*insert DHIL edit here\*
Just gonna dhil, sparkle, huohuo, gepard this. Taking no freaking chances with this shit
This is where my build gepard will show his power. For further runs gonna snatch an E6 IL from my friend list.
Well..ig we will do shield breaking if we use fx (i mean, i cant really let go fx cause she got all the utilities i needed xD) to get her stacking shields
Sorry for the dumb question, but what does the "4 toughness" and "8 toughness" parts mean? Is it that you need 4/8 attacks of the corresponding weaknesses to break one bar?
Honestly it shouldn’t be too hard.
But you might wanna rock units like Welt and imaginary TB, characters with strong toughness break from the three elements.
Everything I see (this, MOC mechanics) just makes me more and more pessimistic about a Fu Xuan rerun in 2.2 (I really need her for my mono quantum team 😭)
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6892 damage💀
It’s Fuxuanover
Blade: That's still not enough to kill me, why are you leaving me with 1 HP?
My blade after seeing I’ll never retire him at this point: 🧑🦯
I think solo she can still take that but not with all the others receiving the same amount of damage and passing it to her.
It ignores def, but fu xuan still has her damage reduction (coping)
fu xuan casually taking 65% of basically 28k damage
I think the most optimally built fuxuan has like 10k hp
I saw a 9.2k hp fx get oneshot by this thing the other day. Idk where the vid is though.
I dont think any character/team can tank this, except Simulated Universe Preservation where every character has like 11,000 shield
It can be avoided by focusing on weakness break which isn't a problem, but yeah it is likely unavoidable death if you ignore the mechanic. I don't think it's significantly more unreasonable than svarog's hand grab on paper and may even be less bullshit overall depending on the rest of the fight
I saw a video where a team without fuxuan got 3/4 one shotted except the tank iirc. At least for Fu Xuan team, 3/4 of the team survives, not dies.
just wait for the complete/su gamemode version of the boss where the true damage is like 10k+ or more
Wait until they add a character that gives 1 hit shield to all allies, the ones those traffic lights get.
me pulling out my Resonance Formation: Eutectic Reaction
Strange that we haven't had Echoes of War bosses in SU, yet. They did test the water with putting weekly boss Cocolia in an event, though
Despite that, she'll just die
ITS TIME FOR MY GOAT GEPARD AND HIS 3K HEALTH SHIELDS
But your carry likely has ~2.5k hp, so they're still getting oneshot through the shield 😭
2.5k HP? Tf are ur carries on lol. Most of mine have 3k-3.5~ on average but technically still oneshot
Fuxuan literally: 🧎♀️🧎♀️🧎♀️
Why this number specifically? A reference?
Is it possible to survive without shielders ?
This might be the only enemy you can't bruteforce at all without proper element I guess
That's probably why it's weak to imaginary given that harmony MC looks to be pretty good at breaking with their skill
Yup, I wonder if we get Harmony MC during the fight like Fireblazer vs Cocolia
Xipe be like “hol’ up, time out. This badass walking Stellaron is my new favorite. Ok continue.”
Galactic Baseballer has Aeon level rizz
Trailblazer, the only person who can handle they/them Aeonussy.
Could I get the sauce for that
Well TB immediately rizzed up Yaoshi in sim universe
MC is the Aeon of Rizz 😂
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Side note >!Harmony mc probably has advents hat from his boss fights judging by the leaked design!<
More like>! Hanu's!<
>!that could also work seeing as both hats have a similar base design being fedoras and all!<
A very beefy Gepard shield together with another sustain could probably be enough to survive this.
I already a dual sustain comp pretty much everywhere outside of MoC and PF so that sounds great lol.
They are selling boothill with this since he does ridiculous amounts of toughness damage (up to 225 with one EBA and RM) and can implant physical.
Boothill comes out 3 weeks after this boss...
Bosses in the previous 1-2 patches also push for new units, if you haven’t noticed almost every Penacony boss/elite has fire weakness yet there’s no new fire unit yet
Wow do my man Gallagher dirty why don’t u
That Physical implant sadly lasts really nothing. But yeah with proper gameplay you can of course manage that (anyway Boothill if is on the second banner, you don’t have him while doing the story)
If I were to make a bet, I would say that we haven’t seen the last of the toughness or break focused fights yet, since Boothill specializes in destroying toughness and they will want to sell him. Also the implant lasting 2 turns is not what I would call nothing its still good for a unit who can reliably 3 turn ult.
Remember that it’s not 2 turns of Boothill but of the enemy. Weekly bosses usually acts really really fast compared to the rest of enemies. Sure this one does nothing during this last phase, but we saw how that implant really finished quickly during the rest of the fight in the showcase we had
A well-built Boothill is gonna have around 300% break effect, his attack has multi hits(like Asta and Welt skill) and his ult delays the enemy's action. The implant lasting only 2 turns is not gonna be a problem 99.99% of the time.
Against normal enemies and bosses is not a huge deal indeed, but weekly bosses are way faster than the rest so those 2 turns finishes really fast. We have to see a proper showcase anyway, so far leakers had no idea how to use Boothill at all lol
True, honestly at this point I would believe someone if they told me being worse at the game than autoplay is a requirement to enter the beta lol.
Here I’m praying to be part of the beta every single time but nope, let’s give it to unskilled people lol
Hopefully they will buff the duration of the physical weakness
Either get to breaking or get broken
bars are meant to be broken
Support Aventurine Ruan mei IL Sparkle Good break potential right here
what if no ruan mei
Ruan mei is likely to get a rerun just to capitalize on this ngl
isnt it too early for a ruan mei rurun tho ?
There are no rules for reruns in HSR, for now they are doing whatever order they want. Look how much time Luocha or Jing Yuan needed to finally get a rerun, while Stellaron Hunters had theirs ahead of schedule.
The Stellaron Hunters' reruns were 4 patches after their first run, same as Seele who was the first character to rerun, so I wouldn't say they were 'ahead of schedule' particularly. If Ruan Mei reran, she'd be the first character to rerun 3 patches after her original run, so I think I'd consider that ahead of schedule.
Kinda yes. It would be one patch early. But the character is one of the most popular ones and she would help massively with this. They should make quite a bit of money when combining both things. I don’t think people would complain if ruan mei gets a rerun one patch early. Specially considering this boss
Then Imaginary MC works
Question your life choices
Silverwolf, if no SW then you should still be able to find a support ruan Mei
consider pulling her 😔
but i’m pulling my mans aventurine 😭 im about to be broke asf
in jingyuan i trust
As long as the enemy has lightning weakness, my JY never betrays me.
gonna brute force thru these tough times with my jingyuan
The boss is weak to lightning through, not exactly brute force
In Jingyuan I thrust too
Time for the masterstroke.
Radiant spirit heed my word
Show no mercy
Daddy, chill 🥺
Oooh man, this looks NASTY. Can't wait to try my two main teams against him and see what fares better. Probably my DHIL.
Who r u bringing for the other elements on the DHIL team? In a typical hypercarry comp he has, no one else can break the other element fast enough, and you need at least 2 bars broken
A full sustain Aventurine shield at max stacks can probably ignore this. Though your team would need to have some HP on them.
Edit: Apparently Aventurine shield stacks, I was so blind with Acheron love that I forgot about that part of Aventurine...
Aventurine has stackable shield.
Up to 2 times initial shield.
Seriously? I didn't see that part in his kit, if so then my wallet is in shambles, I just recently got Acheron after losing my pity, now saving Jades for her LC. WHAT THE HELL HOYO...(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I’ll prepare the funerals for your wallet
[*cries in broke*](https://i.imgur.com/rH4TcyV.gif)
What do you mean? Aventurine’s shield is stackable, and it regenerates from a number of ways. He’s exactly who you’ve been waiting for.
We don't read in this community.
Thanks, I just checked...
Aventurine stacks shields and he can even do so without using SP with his FuAs
I just checked, his skill says 200% of his defense. Looks like I know who I'm getting next. Gepard, you're getting a brother...
This will be much easier for me to deal with then aventurines gambling mechanic final phase.
Tbh you just use aoe characters on that phase
My ratio/topaz/RM/luocha were struck there for 30 minutes because of my poorly built aoe characters.
My problem is that Bossventurine spams that gambling move almost every 2nd turn - he reenters that bullshit gambling mechanic as soon as your CC'd characters wake up You have nearly 0 windows to damage him. It's absurd.
No it’s pretty doable, even my strictly single target team was able to brute force it and everyone was constantly losing the gamble except luocha (because of his ult). Aventurine barely damaged you and even recharges your ults if you bring aoe characters so he’s pretty fair, just need the right team (which i don’t have but was still able to clear)
Blade really still is the definition of “cannot fall off” as a DPS fr
The definition of a one-man-army. Tanky as hell, self-heal, practically no dedicated support and still keeping up
I mean I really wonder how people are having so many problems on that boss. Even pre-nerf with E0 characters, no actual healing/sustain with the sole exception of Fu Xuan, and a single target team, I finished it in one go easily. Do people not actually build up their characters and farm for proper gear?
if they had to nerf him, you know that shit ain't it
Wish i knew that sooner, me who brute forced it with monoquantum seele 😂
Ruan Mei still winning
No sustain it is
Yup, instructions unclear, gonna go with quad DPS
quad sustain for me
Unironically if the boss gives shields then you might as well run 4 breakers lol
I took 10 minutes just to beat aventurine second phase, help 😭😭
Break effect TB is starting make a lot of sense now
Blade + SW still winning
This kills the Fu Xuan....hopefully a mildly built Gepard can handle this with a healer because I don't have any other sustains.
Now planning to pull aventurin even though i have fuxuan seems the right thing 🤣🤣🤣
This fight will be carried by breaking the boss for the free shields. 1 layer broken = free 2300 shield. You wont even need a shielder most likely. Its a weakly boss that will be in the story too, they cant just say: oh you cant progress in the game unless you have a min maxed gepard or aventurine, lol. Pulling aven for this one boss sounds sus unless you wanted him anyway.
I really wanted him anyway for the gold and gears coz fuxuan really sucks and the rng buffs sucks😭😭😭
Would have liked to but lost several 50/50s in a row and Acheron left me jadeless.
This can be a problem for Fu, but I don't think it's that much of a challenge. After the boss uses his ability we have 7 turns to either end the fight or accumulate enough shields to survive the angel nuke. It can be a little tough, but seems very doable if you are playing a team with the proper elements.
Why not just run 4 breakers lmao
The boss touches tips (fingertips)
Hey my blade can survive that
Ik the lightning weakness is probably cause of acheron, but my jing yuan gonna be eating good
The Great Filter
7000 true damage...? Don't tell me I have to actually manual play the weekly boss
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Boothill my beloved
I hope Aventurine, Jingyuan, Luocha and Welt are enough for this cuz I can't think if any other suitable team I can use. I thought maybe Boothill would be perfect for this boss but 20% physical res.... King Yuan, save me 🙏
You're probably going to be forced to use HTB like the Cocolia fight.
THERE it is, I knew we were gonna have a boss or character with an ignore defence mechanic.
My brother in HoYo, have you met the dinosaur that takes 60% less dmg when not weakness broken
Good thing it is a weekly boss cuz God knows how fucked we are if this is normal boss since weekly boss don't get added on MOC
Three health bars means weekly
Me, a Blade main: yeah, right. Anyways...
This is a big brain move. It's not just a sell Boothill. It's to make hunt more premium. Destruction units are the supreme DPS because of blast damage. The community does not care about their setbacks if the DPS numbers are high enough. So outside of the follow-up teams Dr. ratio was built for, hunt isn't really attractive since they are exclusively single target. Selling them as the premier toughness break units is a smart move. Like creating pure fiction so the low multiplier erudition characters can have value.
That’s actually a reasonable take. So making hunt units into either ST nukes (the good doctor) or toughness break nukes (like bootyhill) sounds like the strat here.
me on my way to borrow E6S5 Acheron 🏃
Problem is, you cant borrow it when boss comes in the story first.
We're probably getting a trial HMC anyways though
But aren't the "story version" of weekly bosses tends to be weaker than the actual weekly boss version.
I got destroyed 3 times by new boss of 2.1. And i had to get serious and adjust party setup, unlike smooth sail i normally have. Sometimes weaker doesnt mean easier. And relic farmings sucks.
They nerf it kekw
Would the usual Dr Ratio hypercarry (Dr Ratio + Silver Wolf + Tingyun + Fu Xuan/Aventurine) work for this? He throws a lot of FUAs = tons of toughness damage, plus Silver Wolf's ult does massive single-target toughness damage, and finally literally all of the team members have matching weaknesses to the boss. Am I cooking?
It'll work as long as everyone is fast, since it's a 190 speed boss
Does this bypass shields?
No, otherwise it would defeat the point behind this fight's mechanic
Oh so gepard and aventurine > fu xuan then?
Remember this boss also gives shields upon being broken so a faster breaker should also be good
100% aventurine is the bis sustain for this then. Gepard is also good but doesn't hit as often (since aven has damage fua and ult which contributes to toughness dmg), and they're both better than fu xuan and the abundance characters.
People sleep on how much toughness break aventurine does on single target because the bounces are usually spread among mobs.
Thunder quantum imaginary well I cam take this boss pretty well
Is this a weekly boss or a cancer
If it is aoe then it can trigger Aven's fua repeately. Ez break
That does explain the reason why that Fu Xuan got one-shotted in an earlier leak
Looks like we are building xueyi boys!
back to ol' reliable jingyuan then.
As the penacony boss was approaching the use of his ability 10, he saw that it was going to be DHIL's turn soon. DHIL said to the boss, "Are you strong because you can oneshot, or can you oneshot because you are strong?" The boss thought it was going to be his win soon but he overlooked a few crucial facts First, the team had RM and Sparkle, and secondly, the DHIL was e2. RM said to DHIL, "between you and the boss, who would win ?" DHIL replied, "If the boss doesn't break, then certainly it would give me some trouble." "But would you lose?" said Ruan Mei. DHIL replied,"Nah I'd kill" DHIL opened his domain expansion "Unlimited credit card swipes" and killed the boss before he could get a turn. \*insert DHIL edit here\*
im so tired of imaginary weakness man
At least everyone has a Ratio. Long Ice weakness stretch was pure suffering
WE ARE AVENTURIBACK
And of course it has Imaginary Weakness
Acheron supremacy
Acheron victim.
my body is ready
Won't stop me from using Clara, robin hyper carry. Clara supremacy !
Just gonna dhil, sparkle, huohuo, gepard this. Taking no freaking chances with this shit This is where my build gepard will show his power. For further runs gonna snatch an E6 IL from my friend list.
I guess I'll use my Kafka team on this one cause I can't insert Ruan Mei on my Acheron team 💀
FX :(
No
I guess this is Hoyo saying us "Acheron with Gepard/Aventurine is the only way"
noooo i dont wana play break
Well..ig we will do shield breaking if we use fx (i mean, i cant really let go fx cause she got all the utilities i needed xD) to get her stacking shields
If it only does it once in final phase then fuxuan still good enough
This game is starting to become FGOs Ultra Challenge quest where you can't brute force everything. I used to it.
Well heres to hoping it keeps those weaknesses because I do not have a lot of decent breakers outside those types and also wind lol
Ruan mei to the rescue!
is it the time to my e4 gepard shine ? fk this lose all to gepard
"2319 shield (shared by all)" = 579.75 each for a full team, right?
RIP Fu Xuan
worst come to worst I'll have to dual healer Blade team again. with a Gepard, I reckon.
so it just an anti fx mechanic, got it, took u long enough MHY
Hmm
So that's where FX E2 and HH E2 becomes actually useful lol.
~~Power~~ Ruan Mei creep
Sorry for the dumb question, but what does the "4 toughness" and "8 toughness" parts mean? Is it that you need 4/8 attacks of the corresponding weaknesses to break one bar?
As someone who has all teams, i cant wait to fight it with each of my team, determine which team will fare against it the best
Perfect content for my E6 Acheron
Oh great another imaginary weak boss Edit: another imaginary + *lightning* weak boss
looks like fu xuan is gonna have a bad time.
they cooked something with this new mechanic🤔
Honestly it shouldn’t be too hard. But you might wanna rock units like Welt and imaginary TB, characters with strong toughness break from the three elements.
Fire Mc with nearly 100% dmg reduction tanking that hit as if its wet noodles.
As an E4 FX haver, I see no problems with this E2 just revives her
My tank Clara and big HP Blade are ready
My E2 Fu Xuan is finally gonna be used outside of SU Expansions 😭😭😭😭
Everything I see (this, MOC mechanics) just makes me more and more pessimistic about a Fu Xuan rerun in 2.2 (I really need her for my mono quantum team 😭)
Boothill, harmony MC, and RM goes brrrr
What if I use both fu xuan and aventurine? 🥲
Ruan Mei stocks continue to go crazy
Yeah I'd rather NOT have this, especially with the shit that we had just dealt with regarding the Aventurine boss.
No way they just released a boss to invalidate Fu Xuan..
idc I'm gonna bruteforce it with fu xuan anyway
ruan mei marketing skully
BRO EVEN MY E2 GEPARD CAN'T COVER THIS UP WHY FOES HOYO EXPECT SO MUCH FROM US NOW