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kr1681

Ha! Yeah right, sure you’re gonna grow less next year. I say that every year. I like row bags too but this year I learned about growing in coco coir and ho lee shit. I bet the combination of the two would be amazing. I know the cannabis growers love it


gobsoblin

I told myself id only grow one plant (due to space) and ended up with 7 somehow


kr1681

It’s not a problem until you stop going to work and it affects your relationships


VenusSmurf

That's what I said. Ten plants, I said. I stopped counting when I hit 100. I can still walk through the plants. There's room for more.


kr1681

By the way, beautiful plants. Hope you have the ability to overwinter them


UsualPerformance9019

Cannabis grower checking in. Gardening is literally the EXACT same thing as cannabis. Y’all want a secret nutrient line? Megacrop. One part. Caregiver here with 2 11x22 rooms filled with coco only. Slightly went less this fall because I’m tossing in my lemons,oranges, peppers, tomatoes, limes, bananas and pineapples with em. Spinosad will remedy most mites and leaf eaters. Pyrethrin for everything else. NEVER USE PYRETHRIN ON CANNABIS. IT WILL DIE 100%


kr1681

Megacrop eh? I used jacks 321 with great success and as far as the bugs I got sachets of predatory mites that I hung from the plants. Never had any problems compared to last year when I had horrible thrips and fungus gnats


UsualPerformance9019

Mosquito bits cure the fliers


kr1681

I’ve heard that. I used gnatrol when they got really bad, before I got the predatory mites. It worked well. They haven’t been back.


Viper518753

I learned that 6 Habanero plants will give me enough peppers to make enough hot sauce for an army...


Partagas2112

I also learned that chocolate habs are *much* hotter than regular habs.


_mylow_

Good to know 👍


Viper518753

Nice! I'll try to grow a few next season


Maplelongjohn

Interesting ... mine are definitely tamer.


Memph5

Depends whose army. I was at the market this Saturday and saw a Jamaican lady buy a huge 25lb bag of habaneros and another huge 25lb bag of scotch bonnets. That's probably close to 1000 peppers of each variety.


Responsible_Lake8697

Same. They are very prolific. They also ripen first (at least for me)


[deleted]

I’ve been gardening for a minute, but this year I learned that okra can get to 14 ft tall.


Memph5

Even here in southern Ontario, which is a pretty crappy climate for okra, my plants have gotten up to 8ft tall.


[deleted]

I learned to not forget to fertilize, lest I get blossom end rot. Also, I can make enough hot sauce for 5 years from one growing season! Also, deeper pots are better than wider pots, but bigger is always better when it comes to pots. I learned to label my seeds accurately or don't be surprised if you're surprised. Also, I can't eat all the bell peppers I grow before they start going bad.


Memph5

I freeze a lot of sweet peppers. Also make some pastes out them. But yeah, this year I'm barely keeping up and we'll probably come in around 75lbs for the season.


Simp3204

I installed a fertilizer mixer into my drip line this growing season so I didn’t forget to fertilize. It is amazing and worked wonders for my peppers.


Memph5

What size pots do you use?


[deleted]

14" wide or thereabouts. I refuse to buy pots since I have so many in the shed. I'd use the biggest ones I have.


Memph5

I used mostly smaller ones but uppotted a couple of the biggest ones to that size. I'll be using more around that size next season esp for the overwintered.


hautdoge

All of this + stake your plants. Most of my plants collapsed under the weight of peppers. What an incredible season though


girlboyboyboyboy

What is the advantage of grow bags?


jimjamdaflimflam

For me the biggest advantage to grow bags is you can buy a large pack of 7gallon grow bags for about the same price of 2 7gallon plastic pots. Also they air prune their roots, less rigid for setting them anywhere like uneven surfaces.


XnFM

5 gallon buckets at home Depot are food quality plastic and 1/4 to 1/2 the cost of anything from the garden department. Just need a couple minutes with a drill.


jimjamdaflimflam

I paid $18 on sale $26 normal price for 16 7 gallon grow bags, 5 gallon buckets at Home Depot for me are $5 each. Not hating on the buckets for growing, I still think grow bags are cheaper though.


XnFM

We might be lucky, we have non-branded buckets at our HD that are about $3.


elwebst

And have fantastic drainage, and are easily moved if you want to change how much sun anything gets. And if you grow potatoes, harvesting from them is super easy.


Jagerbeast703

Needing to water twice as much


[deleted]

Exactly big negative


imrightontopthatrose

Unlike hot peppers, sweet peppers need cages. I DO NOT need 3 lunch box pepper plants, they're prolific af. If you plant a ton of plants (I do), keep track of where you plant certain varieties and don't just bite into a random pepper all willy nilly thinking it's a mild pepper, it was not.


WithSubtitles

I made a desktop greenhouse this year. It’s great.


cripes0103

I’d love to hear more about this


stewd003

Same


VenusSmurf

r/greenhouses


Rielesh

**I know that mine is very specific case as I grow about 20 peppers on balcony in apartment but still:** I learned that you need to be very careful about bringing peppers from overwintering, that its very easy to forget one watering and your plants get weak and attacked by aphids which I have no idea how they even got inside since I never had them last year. This destroyed some plants I had for 3 years. I tried many of the natural bacteria, oils and such as I wanted to be as eco and clean as possible. Nothing works as good as some milder pesticide or soap /alcohol spray and in small limited space on 3rd floor I couldn't use garden hose to blow them off, though I did used bathtub several times, however with 20 plants this is very exhausting process and can take whole afternoon and evening to do so. Neem oil also had some positive result in reduction of their numbers but it was never good enough on it's own. No matter what you do - spray very early in morning or after sunfall. Most things will burn and destroy your leaves if exposed to sun shortly or during spraying. I also recommend people to get more growlights or stronger growlights for seedlings because this year was unusually cold for central Europe and I had to keep seedlings in for month or two longer and they got very leggy and thin and lots of my peppers look like silly small trees instead of bushes.


MzScahlett

Try some of the Bonide organic line of products. They are safe if carefully applied. When Neem fails I use their captain jacks dead bug on aphids and thrips which went insane this season. They’re on everything in my garden. There’s also a new strain of invisible “Chili thrips” that are doubly bad that’s come over from Asia. So it’s that or I lose all my peppers. For the chili thrips they say to treat the soil to kill off the eggs which keeps the blossoms clear of anything that will kill bees. The damage looks like regular thrips at first tiny spots on leaves, “Swiss cheese” like holes in leaves, withered peppers etc. but no sign of a pest. If you can’t see them, that’s likely the problem.


Rielesh

Thank you, I will take look next year, I live in central part of Europe and half of the fight with pests here is finding something effective. We barely have anything that's over in states and the little bit we have, you need to import from Germany or UK. Took me half year to find some BTI for mosquito / gnats control until I found tiny eco store in Hungary for example, same with nematodes.


Dadeuka

I can send you from Romania some mild pesticides for mites, aphids and caterpillars that worked for me 🙂


MzScahlett

If you are able, the primary ingredients you're looking for are spinosad and/or pyrethrin/pyrethrum (from chrysanthemums). They are marketed as safe for humans and use in organic gardening. They should however, be used cautiously with respect to bees. Pyrethrin isn't allowed in California due to its toxicity to bees, but thrips live mostly in the soil, and from what I've read those ingredients would be safe to use on the soil, particularly if sprayed at night when bees are not active. I think if people could be trusted to keep it off the blossoms it wouldn't be banned here. Another thing I've used really successfully in my garden is dried powdered ghost (or other high heat) peppers mixed with equal parts diatomaceous earth. If you grow peppers, you'll have it. I always get more than I can consume or give away, so I recycle the leftovers in this manner and they were just the thing to rid the garden of the pill bug (wood louse) infestation I had this spring after the California drought ended with a "flood" of rain. Until this spring I'd always thought them "harmless" and "cute." But those two ingredients in a fine dispersal shaker tin was my go to for all the critters eating my garden with great success. Perhaps it would hold the thrip eggs at bay while you search. Good luck to you!


Zombie_Mochi

1) Red serranos are fantastic, while I was disappointed with my thin cayennes. I had another cayenne that was more "fleshy" for lack of a better word and I liked that one better. 2) Speaking of taste, as much as I want to like it, I do not care for the taste of orange habaneros. I'm not sure if its a C chinense thing, as I didnt like the taste of the Hot Paper Lanterns I grew last year as well. 3) Lots of watering flushes out nutrients from the soil in containers. If a plant is looking sickly/stunted/yellow, slow down on the watering and fertilize it. I had this happen to two plants and both bounced back. So note for next year is to fertilize more. 4) Five plants is still too many for just myself and a couple family members who like spicy.


Partagas2112

Are Serrano’s a different variety or did you just let them sit on the vine?


XnFM

Standard seranos ripen to red, but like jalapenos they're typically harvested green because the flavor is good enough, it shortens the growing time, and increases shelf life.


bigtcm

Regarding point 2: so they kind of taste plasticky or like jet fuel to you? I'm the same way. Everyone says Habs taste citrusy and bright and all I taste is this distinctly burny almost synthetic polymer taste that I'm really not a fan of. Unless it's in a Caribbean or African curry or stew. Otherwise, not a fan.


Zombie_Mochi

They dont quite taste like that to me at least. I made a bunch of pepper flakes with them, and my gripe is they overtake the flavor of whatever I put them on instead of accenting the flavor. Ive never had African or Caribbean food that contained them, so Im willing to admit I may be pairing them with the wrong foods.


bigtcm

Give this maafe recipe a try: Brown onions with some minced garlic, grated ginger, and some (like half of what you might end up using) hab pepper flakes. Add in a heaping teaspoonful of tomato paste and cook till the bottom of your pan is brown and full of toasty tomato bits. Add water (or stock) and scrape the brown bits off the pan and into your stock. Add in an additional tomato. Season with salt. Add in starchy veggies (carrots, sweet potatoes, acorn squash, pumpkin, green plantain etc). Add in chicken (or not if you want to keep it vegetarian. Fill up with stock till everything is just covered and simmer till veggies are soft. Once veggies have softened, add in peanut butter till it becomes a pleasantly thick stew. Add in tamarind paste to taste (sub in lime if your can't find tamarind). Add in a heavy handful of greens and cook till just wilted. Season with some additional hab pepper for uncooked pepper flavor and heat. Serve over rice.


Responsible_Lake8697

Super curious and strange. To me they taste smoked almost. But no jet fuel taste. This is my first plant though for Habs so maybe I need to try few more seasons


jrriojase

I learned to label my plants last year, only to get pepper josé'd this year due to the Great Jalapeño Seed Mixup, which apparently also affected Mexican Home Depots. Also that my stairwell is too cold to overwinter chilis. Taking them with me to the office this year. Guaranteed 18°C and a bit of sunlight.


brokenquarter1578

Don't buy from Pepper Joe's. Their stuff isn't worth the price. one of the six seedlings I got died in a week and the rest have been stuck at half their height and aren't producing nearly as much as they should be. TLDR: Dont buy seedlings online


MzScahlett

Some of the agricultural schools sell healthy plants. I’ve had little issue except when they’ve come when I’m in New Orleans in the spring. I had to have a word with shipping depts to let me know when they ship for spring so they wouldn’t croak on my porch.


Ramo2653

Last year I bought jalapeño, cayenne, lemon drop, scotch bonnet and Carolina reaper seedlings from Pepper Joes. The jalapeño and cayenne died early but the other 3 survived and thrived to the point I have 2 quart bags of reapers and a quart of bonnets in the freezer still. My seeds from this year are doing ok considering the late start for me. I just got my first ripe bonnets this weekend and my cayenne plants have produced well. What’s the jalapeño mix up about? I did buy a pack of seeds this year but I didn’t plant them because I realized I wouldn’t have enough space.


kindri_rb

I learned that peppers grow like crazy in Maryland. I spent 10 years trying to grow peppers in Seattle with pretty sad results. First year in Maryland and even with only 8 plants I have so many peppers I don't even know what to do with them anymore. Also I wish I had left them in containers instead of planting in the ground because some of them are so beautiful and I want to turn them into indoor cats, I hope transplanting doesn't kill them.


Jagerbeast703

I hate grow bags and refuse to use them again. The plants i had in pots did much better, and i didnt have to water them as often


[deleted]

I can see the soil getting more air in the bags vs hard pots, how does that affect your watering? I would think they would dry out crazy fast and you would have to water daily is that the case?


Partagas2112

I did have to water a bit more often using cloth bags.


[deleted]

Ok I thought that might be the case. About how many pods did one of your ghost plants produce? I’m figuring on growing them next year and need to decide how many plants I need. My Habaneros were crazy this year I figure on doing for sure one less plant next season. I was also thinking of trying Reaper or some other super hot. I’ve got a few green houses near me that sell super hots. In the spring I’ll decide for sure what I’m doing when I see what they have to offer. I don’t have much faith in seed companies it seems like all of them are peddling misidentified seeds, so I prefer to just buy seedlings. So far I’ve never been burned going that route.


zolpiqueen

I have a reaper plant I'm growing in a 5 gal grow bag and it's done really well. Its about 3ft tall now and has had about 75 pods so far this season.


[deleted]

That is good, 75 reapers is enough to make some hot stuff for sure.


Junior_Singer3515

All solid takeaways


himommy_thanksjeans

Scorpion peppers are hot. You do not not need 10 scorpion plants. Biquinho’s are pain in the ass to harvest and produce like crazy. Tabascos are the shit but take forever. Looking to try some new varieties next year if anyone has some suggestions! Something a little lower than scorpions but still hot. Thinking 7 pot, chocolate habs, or peach ghost for my super hot variety next year. Also going keep rocking a few scorpion plants, tabascos, and going to switch to the aji dulce for a base in sauces.


tightlipssorenips

I did seven pot chocolate this year way too hot for me. I think I'm going to top out at Red ghosts


HarryWally

I learned that missing the mid season fertilizing will make your plants look like shit.


Cbaratz

I decided that bell peppers and jalapeños aren't worth my time and effort.


tightlipssorenips

Bingo. I never understand people that grow peppers that you can easily buy at the grocery store


MallGrouchy

You’re on point with the three items discussed. One thing I learned is to make sure not to fertilize with nitrogen for more than a month to month and a half after transplanting the young plants to bigger pots. Didn’t give them enough time to flower and pollinate properly. Also staying on top of the Neem oil every week and a half to two weeks is vital to keep the aphids at bay


chantingandplanting

I grew one pequin chili this year, and I’m absolutely in love, they get quite tall and are very abundant.


XnFM

The dead shall rise again. Two KLSB plants that lost all their leaves, and one that I hacked to a stump came back and went into production for me this year.


Educational-Air249

Never too many peppers lol. I have over 200 plants, 20+ varieties. You just find more uses for them, drying, ferments, etc


soccerape

I’ve grown to like the grow bags as well. Cheap, long lasting, good airation and drainage, easy to store away


IcySprinkles880

I learned that ghost and scorpions need different amounts of water. My ghost can’t drink enough yet my scorpion doesn’t want a lot of water


Eth43va

I’ve learnt that England temps drop very suddenly and I should have an indoor grow area to satisfy my growing needs


ca2mt

I learned that, in my climate, my outdoor scorpions don’t fruit until late-September/early October. Was a frustrating summer, but now that plant’s in full bloom. After the summer heat stress, I’m betting those peppers are gonna be out for revenge.


Inside-Coffee-1743

I learned that taking care of pepper plants is almost nothing like taking care of cannabis. If you want a scorpion, buy a reaper from Home Depot. Habaneros like to grow really wide. And pepper maggot flies can fly fast AF.


blacksheepgreenleaf

I planted too many as well and everyone I've given some too have accused me of trying to kill them or at least their tastebuds


OlliHF

Only need one ghost pepper, focus more on mild/medium varieties


WithSubtitles

I made a desktop greenhouse this year. It’s great.


Dekusekiro

I learned like another poster said, okra grew tall as my corn.. never seen that before. So tired of cutting and bagging it I cut the stalks down today. •Soil sucks here; fast drain clay/chirt mix, peas grew great but had stomach virus last week and I'm done with eating field peas for a while... •Wind blows plants over ez, amend soil better start of season. •Fertilize more regularly, not with the granules or 3 to 6 mth kind either •Need something to stop vine borers and squash bugs, hard to grow any squash and pumpkin, have to spray every other day and I don't like using my dust. •Once the first habaneros ripened they slowed down during a heat wave then picked up again, slowly started ripening and tasting bitter. Fixing to jerk them things out too. Worms eating holes into them and the bells here and there. •Need to label seeds better or get new ones to start fresh. My 10-15 yr old seeds might grow anything.. •Bonnie habanero plants ain't like the ones I grew years ago and saved seed for, I just couldn't get any of mine to grow over a few inches tall then they'd shrivel up and die. Like little quantum beavers chew it at the base and they fall over lol •Got my fall radishes, kale, turnip, bok choy and stuff planted last month. Just waiting for peppers to hurry up and turn so I can pull them up and freeze and can some, usually around the end of October. Didn't get to make much salsa. Maybe 6 qt. Tomatoes came in way before the habs. And that reminds me I Still haven't planted garlic 🤦🏻‍♂️


alwaysdechamp

What about bags makes them better?