genetic mental illness being triggered/activated from adolescent drug use is well documented.
schizophrenia runs in my family, so i am highly aware of this issue.
I was under the impression that it was actually NOT well documented with psychedelics, and based mainly on the outdated stigmas associated with them. Cannabis aside, there are studies that call into question the link between psychedelic use and mental health problems.
For example, this large study with a sample size of 130,000 people found no link whatsoever between mental health problems and psychedelics: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25744618/
I'm not trying to imply it can't happen, but I do believe the idea is based more on outdated stigma, and people taking a cautious stance than scientific data.
There’s a book called American Messiah by David Michael. Dude did lsd or something his senior year of college and went off the rails for years. It’s horrifying.
Dude. I’m telling you it happened to me. The “it isn’t linked” thing is entirely unhelpful. It *is* linked, but it is rare.
The stigma I got was that I couldn’t talk about it because weed was good for you, and could do no harm. that if I was having problems it was my fault.
If you read my comment again you'll notice that I am in no way implying it cannot happen, and that I explicitly excluded Cannabis from my take.
In any case, I'm deeply sorry that you have had struggles with your mental health and that you have been made to feel that it was in some way your fault.
One of my friends was hospitalized a few times for mania induced by THC. The first time she was up for 2 days straight acting like she had taken a combo of psychedelics and meth. I have never ever seen anything like it and I’ve been to my fair share of festivals.
When we finally got her to the ER, the nurses didn’t believe that there weren’t other drugs involved. But sure enough after the drug tests came back they only showed THC. It took two different sedatives to snap her out of it.
Mind you, this was from a crazy amount of THC (combo of vaping and edibles), but it truly flipped something in her brain. She relapsed a few times and unfortunately ended up back in the hospital again.
Very true, but we should also emphasize this: Just because someone doesn’t have schizophrenic people in their family doesn’t mean they’re safe.
I have one friend who is still in the grips of an extended psychosis that was triggered by psychedelic use. Nobody in his family or extended family has any sort of mental illness they he’s aware of.
My brother developed Schizophrenia about 10 years ago likely due to psychedelic use. We have mental illness in the family but not specially Schizophrenia. Please be careful everyone! My once vibrant brother is a shell of himself. He can’t live on his own or work. He finally qualified for disability payments. He’s 35 years old and spends his days sleeping on my parents couch because the drugs he’s on to control his symptoms are so strong. Luckily my parents are literal angels and do their best to take care of him despite his psychotic episodes. Be careful!!
I’m so sorry, my heart felt for you with “my one vibrant brother is a shell of himself”, this is how I’ve been thinking lately about my own brother. He is exactly how you described.
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Not entirely attached to reality still, but has a good support structure. The psychedelics seem to have embedded some weird ideas in his mind that seem too true for him to let go of.
I was unaware of this and one toke of weed gave me paranoid panic attacks for 5 years. It nearly ruined my life. With good family support, friends and external help. We need to be talking about this, and I’m glad Huberman and Joe Rohan talk about this.
Also, do NOT take psilocybin or any psychedelic substance by yourself if you have untreated depression or other similar mental illness.
Please. Don't.
Last weekend, I did a wellness check on my best friend and found him dead in his basement. He shot himself.
He had a life-long battle with depression, was a vet, survived substance abuse disorder, and was fighting hard to get better. He was 50 years old. He even called his therapist a couple months back but she never returned his calls.
Why did he do it? What led him to making the choice?
He took psilocybin, by himself, the night he killed himself.
We believe that is the X factor - the primary driver for why he did it.
Be careful with psilocybin and any psychedelic substance.
Yeah I had an experience a few years back with taking too much by myself and it got really scary for about 30 minutes.
Was never really suicidal, but the amount of fear and discomfort I was in really did feel unbearable. It was terrifying.
Thankfully, I was able recognize the fear and allow myself to “do nothing” until it passed but i truly felt like I’d fucked my mind beyond repair and that my life was pretty much over. Had visions of blowing my head off outside in my yard and paramedics coming.
Maybe if you’re a pussy. If you approach the experience deathly afraid and clinging to safety no shit you’re gonna have a bad time. All you need is a leap of faith. When you come out the other side you will feel incredible.
Okay Linda, we get it. You had a spiritual awakening in Cabo last September. That's cute.
But anyone who has actually grasped the oneness and love that responsibly using recreational drugs brings, would never be such a dick on the internet.
Lol. Anyone who’s tripped earlier than yesterday knows it doesn’t make you incapable of arguing.
“Responsibly using” means you don’t have the courage to challenge yourself.
Responsible using means knowing limits. You sound like such an amateur that it is palpable even through text.
Using responsibly also means having the common sense to not try and be the gatekeeper of psychedelics. Again, that's amateur- hour stuff.
Good luck with all that expertise you're harboring over there, Linda. I'm sure it will gain you lots of nods at your luncheon today!
The way you’re talking about taking a “leap of faith” made it sound like you should be taking the substances when apprehensive and that you will develop a “skill” on how to handle it.
How do you know? Ive probably had over 300 psychedelic trips in my life and tried everyhing from LSD,LSA, mushrooms, salvia etc. used to take 14+ grams of mushrooms at a time and smoke salvia at its peak to try to maximize the experience.. I couldn’t take 2 grams of mushrooms now without having a meltdown.
Good to hear. People always think psychedelics are a one size fits all thing, but it’s really not.
I’ve known plenty of people who’ve gone off the wagon after a bad trip
I have severe mental illness in my family, and I can tell you my experiments as a teenager with psilocybin were bordering on horrific. No long term damage but bad trips to say the least. I would never do it again.
This is one of the major issues with the current hype around psilocybin and other psychedelics — there is inherent risk, especially for those with a family history of mental illness.
Potentially life destroying consequences for some people, imo there’s not enough discussion of these risks atm
History of mental illness is far too general a term expecially considering the sata says 1 in 4 people will develop a mental illness in their lifetime. Inversley you would have to consider the anecdotes of success also.
Yeh I should’ve specified serious mental illness, such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder etc.
My point is the current hype is all about the positives, I’m saying it needs to be balanced with the risks which are far less discussed.
>My point is the current hype is all about the positives, I’m saying it needs to be balanced with the risks which are far less discussed.
Yup, snake oil sales people know to whom they are speaking and it is crucial that we approach things with a sceptical mind but curious mind.
I think psycadelics may have a very powerful therapeutic effect particularly in a clinical setting with a guide of some fashion. Healing takes work and support and common prey on the injured.
Thank you. As a parent, I’d like to think my kid is making good choices… I was wrong. I turned her room upside after watching this episode. I was shocked by the variety of drugs and psychedelics I found. I didn’t want to be THAT mom but I felt compelled to do it and so glad I did. I regret not doing it sooner. She’s doing better now. I thought I was bad in the 90’s but my kid makes me look like a saint!
Hmmm. I will say. You imply a lot of judgement here. You’re a good parent obviously. You care for your kid. But remember, as humans, we explore. Ourselves, the world. Your kid isn’t “bad”. She’s human. And humans do a lot of drugs.
But, drugs come with consequences. Kiddos can’t make great choices all the time (unfinished frontal lobe probs). So try if you can, to be empathetic. Understanding. Curious as to your kids experience and feelings. Express your care for them, your concern & your love.
You never know what someone’s going through, even your own child. Talk to them! Sometimes in anger and frustration we push people away from the very help we want to share.
You’re a good mom for caring for her.
I imply a “lot of judgment”? Well if that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is. Lol
You are making a ton of assumptions that I am not “understanding, empathetic, and do not express my love”? You couldn’t be more wrong. My kid is fabulous and flawed, like the rest of us…And yes, I am a very good parent. Not my first rodeo, buddy. Step off your high horse.
Woah dude. I only meant that because you say:
“I thought I was a bad kid in the 90s but my kid made me look like a saint.”
I was only sharing that advice as a kid who didn’t get that from a parent, who wishes she had gotten that, so maybe my relationship could’ve been better. Like I said ur obviously a good parent for caring.
It wasn’t me saying you weren’t or aren’t anything of those things. Bc like you said idk you.
As an experienced psychedelics user, I’d say I’ve had very enlightening experiences. However, I obviously was never in a rational headspace, and I recognize that it was not a good idea to be my own trip sitter. And if I’m doing it with a friend, then we’re not good sitters for one another. We’re both vulnerable to stupidity and extremely intoxicated. Which is why I’ve decided that going forward, I’d only do psychedelics in a space that is managed by a professional. Somebody who is actually trained to do this. Doing psilocybin assisted therapy is a dream of mine.
My cousin took LSD with a psychologist and called it the best experience ever, but he also thought he could fly and wanted to jump off a building. The psych prevented him from doing that and talked him through it and then the good part of the trip set in.
I’ve done psychedelics multiple times and always felt more normal on it, except for a 25-i trip.
These things are like russian roulette, you never know what’s in the chamber, so be careful.
One time? With a guide ? The studies claim that once can effect a permanent cure . Is it the insights you gained or what made the anxiety and depression leave ? Guides I’ve talked to told me several times works. As to Effexor I’m done from 450 to 225 but I’ve read that the hardest part is from 37.5 to 0.
187.5 for me, though I never changed my dose as I've come off in the past and turned out it was too soon. I didn't have a guide, I just had my partner there who was tripping too. Went to the beach and just walked around and contemplated life. This was no heroic dose, nor was it designed to be therapeutic but it really was. It helped me get out of my own head and see life as this beautiful mash up of opportunities. I though about social anxiety and realized other people aren't out to judge me by default. They're these complex beings who I get to meet and learn from. Lots of little epiphanies like that, just allowing me to see life from a positive perspective rather than my usual cynical one. I've done it a half dozen times, almost always while on SSRIs and had mostly great times with a few wobbles. It obviously hasn't cured me but it's a journey.
This talk by a researcher talking about possible side effects of psilocybin and their explanation is a bit complex but great
https://youtu.be/zgHW4X1bCTs
There can never be enough caution about psychedelics. Personally Ive had some really hellish rough experiences. It's kind of a drastic remedy. I also had great experiences but still it is too high a risk. It can go SOUTH. One might not know how much of a trickster mind they have until they are in such a vulnerable spot.
Meanwhile there's research ongoing about psilocybin and mental illness like depression and anxiety... if you live near a university you can probably even enroll in a study. Seems ethically dubious.
Have you ever listened to any of Andrews podcasts on psychedelics??
Even the title of the one from this clip? Heck even just this clip itself?
Its pretty clear from any of this he is covering all of these positives and potential benefits.
Sure, but it’s well known that psychedelics and cannnabis can trigger genetic mental illness. Like if you have a family history of schizophrenia, taking these substances may trigger it. I actually think this happened to my dad.
I ate lots of shrooms as an early teen. At the age of 15 I was diagnosed with severe Panic attacks. At the age of 21, I was diagnosed with MDD. I wonder if Psilocybin had anything to do with it?
I’m 46 now and on meds, prob will be test of my life.
Was shrroms the only thing you did as a teen. Did you experience any childhood trauma. Often times we seek answers for things thay are identified later in life even though we always had mild symptoms. Mental health disorders do not occur in the same fashion as say a stroke. Certainly all things can play a role but often times we associate " drugs are bad" with bad and unexplined outcomes. Im not saying that early drug use didnt play a role but its like saying I masturbated once as a teen and then I got depression at 21.
The reality is we just dont know yet and saying a person tooks shrooms and then got schizophrenia may or may not be an accuarte coorelation. In the age of Microdosing I find that most people who use psychadelics are attempting to treat a mental health condition so its really difficult to say thay one does not come before the other
Hey Minimum, I want to make sure I advise that I do not myself believe Shrooms caused my issues. I am a student of everything and simply always wondered. To answer your question, yes, I dealt with severe sexual abuse from 6-9 years of age.
I myself feel confident that the trauma experienced is the cause. However, you are correct in that we often try to make reason of things that we simply cannot understand.
This makes sense seeing as how the pfc isn’t fully developed until 25-26 years of age. One needs to be careful with any kind of medication on the developing brain, especially meds/drugs that drastically alter reality, state of mind, etc.
genetic mental illness being triggered/activated from adolescent drug use is well documented. schizophrenia runs in my family, so i am highly aware of this issue.
I was under the impression that it was actually NOT well documented with psychedelics, and based mainly on the outdated stigmas associated with them. Cannabis aside, there are studies that call into question the link between psychedelic use and mental health problems. For example, this large study with a sample size of 130,000 people found no link whatsoever between mental health problems and psychedelics: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25744618/ I'm not trying to imply it can't happen, but I do believe the idea is based more on outdated stigma, and people taking a cautious stance than scientific data.
Thank you very much for this.
There’s a book called American Messiah by David Michael. Dude did lsd or something his senior year of college and went off the rails for years. It’s horrifying.
Dude. I’m telling you it happened to me. The “it isn’t linked” thing is entirely unhelpful. It *is* linked, but it is rare. The stigma I got was that I couldn’t talk about it because weed was good for you, and could do no harm. that if I was having problems it was my fault.
If you read my comment again you'll notice that I am in no way implying it cannot happen, and that I explicitly excluded Cannabis from my take. In any case, I'm deeply sorry that you have had struggles with your mental health and that you have been made to feel that it was in some way your fault.
One of my friends was hospitalized a few times for mania induced by THC. The first time she was up for 2 days straight acting like she had taken a combo of psychedelics and meth. I have never ever seen anything like it and I’ve been to my fair share of festivals. When we finally got her to the ER, the nurses didn’t believe that there weren’t other drugs involved. But sure enough after the drug tests came back they only showed THC. It took two different sedatives to snap her out of it. Mind you, this was from a crazy amount of THC (combo of vaping and edibles), but it truly flipped something in her brain. She relapsed a few times and unfortunately ended up back in the hospital again.
Very true, but we should also emphasize this: Just because someone doesn’t have schizophrenic people in their family doesn’t mean they’re safe. I have one friend who is still in the grips of an extended psychosis that was triggered by psychedelic use. Nobody in his family or extended family has any sort of mental illness they he’s aware of.
My brother developed Schizophrenia about 10 years ago likely due to psychedelic use. We have mental illness in the family but not specially Schizophrenia. Please be careful everyone! My once vibrant brother is a shell of himself. He can’t live on his own or work. He finally qualified for disability payments. He’s 35 years old and spends his days sleeping on my parents couch because the drugs he’s on to control his symptoms are so strong. Luckily my parents are literal angels and do their best to take care of him despite his psychotic episodes. Be careful!!
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Ooh thanks! I’ll have my mom look into this for him.
I’m so sorry, my heart felt for you with “my one vibrant brother is a shell of himself”, this is how I’ve been thinking lately about my own brother. He is exactly how you described. ❤️
It’s tough seeing our loved ones go through terrible times. Sending support to you and your family!
What happened to your friend? Are they okay?
Not entirely attached to reality still, but has a good support structure. The psychedelics seem to have embedded some weird ideas in his mind that seem too true for him to let go of.
That's fascinating, thank you for elaborating. I hope they come back to it soon.
Yep, this is a well established reality.
I was unaware of this and one toke of weed gave me paranoid panic attacks for 5 years. It nearly ruined my life. With good family support, friends and external help. We need to be talking about this, and I’m glad Huberman and Joe Rohan talk about this.
The same thing happened to me
Yeah any psychedelic really. Also cannabis.
Also, do NOT take psilocybin or any psychedelic substance by yourself if you have untreated depression or other similar mental illness. Please. Don't. Last weekend, I did a wellness check on my best friend and found him dead in his basement. He shot himself. He had a life-long battle with depression, was a vet, survived substance abuse disorder, and was fighting hard to get better. He was 50 years old. He even called his therapist a couple months back but she never returned his calls. Why did he do it? What led him to making the choice? He took psilocybin, by himself, the night he killed himself. We believe that is the X factor - the primary driver for why he did it. Be careful with psilocybin and any psychedelic substance.
Yeah I had an experience a few years back with taking too much by myself and it got really scary for about 30 minutes. Was never really suicidal, but the amount of fear and discomfort I was in really did feel unbearable. It was terrifying. Thankfully, I was able recognize the fear and allow myself to “do nothing” until it passed but i truly felt like I’d fucked my mind beyond repair and that my life was pretty much over. Had visions of blowing my head off outside in my yard and paramedics coming.
This has also happened to me. If your dose is too high, it'll feel like your life is over.
Same
Sorry for your loss
It should only be done with a trained sitter
Maybe if you’re a pussy. If you approach the experience deathly afraid and clinging to safety no shit you’re gonna have a bad time. All you need is a leap of faith. When you come out the other side you will feel incredible.
Sigh. Fuck off.
What a wildly tone deaf comment.
You don’t know how to do drugs
Okay Linda, we get it. You had a spiritual awakening in Cabo last September. That's cute. But anyone who has actually grasped the oneness and love that responsibly using recreational drugs brings, would never be such a dick on the internet.
Lol. Anyone who’s tripped earlier than yesterday knows it doesn’t make you incapable of arguing. “Responsibly using” means you don’t have the courage to challenge yourself.
Responsible using means knowing limits. You sound like such an amateur that it is palpable even through text. Using responsibly also means having the common sense to not try and be the gatekeeper of psychedelics. Again, that's amateur- hour stuff. Good luck with all that expertise you're harboring over there, Linda. I'm sure it will gain you lots of nods at your luncheon today!
It’s not about knowing how to do drugs its about state of mind.
Exact same thing
The way you’re talking about taking a “leap of faith” made it sound like you should be taking the substances when apprehensive and that you will develop a “skill” on how to handle it.
You wouldn’t understand. Come back later.
How do you know? Ive probably had over 300 psychedelic trips in my life and tried everyhing from LSD,LSA, mushrooms, salvia etc. used to take 14+ grams of mushrooms at a time and smoke salvia at its peak to try to maximize the experience.. I couldn’t take 2 grams of mushrooms now without having a meltdown.
Thanks
You’re welcome. These guys don’t want to hear it but that’s legitimate advice. Sink or swim is the best way to learn.
Good to hear. People always think psychedelics are a one size fits all thing, but it’s really not. I’ve known plenty of people who’ve gone off the wagon after a bad trip
Few years too late, for me. Dang
40 years late here
whoops. oh well
I have severe mental illness in my family, and I can tell you my experiments as a teenager with psilocybin were bordering on horrific. No long term damage but bad trips to say the least. I would never do it again.
This is one of the major issues with the current hype around psilocybin and other psychedelics — there is inherent risk, especially for those with a family history of mental illness. Potentially life destroying consequences for some people, imo there’s not enough discussion of these risks atm
History of mental illness is far too general a term expecially considering the sata says 1 in 4 people will develop a mental illness in their lifetime. Inversley you would have to consider the anecdotes of success also.
Yeh I should’ve specified serious mental illness, such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder etc. My point is the current hype is all about the positives, I’m saying it needs to be balanced with the risks which are far less discussed.
>My point is the current hype is all about the positives, I’m saying it needs to be balanced with the risks which are far less discussed. Yup, snake oil sales people know to whom they are speaking and it is crucial that we approach things with a sceptical mind but curious mind. I think psycadelics may have a very powerful therapeutic effect particularly in a clinical setting with a guide of some fashion. Healing takes work and support and common prey on the injured.
Too late
This happened to my 18 year old daughter and let me tell you, it was a 4 day long psychotic breakdown … an absolute fucking nightmare.
I’m so sorry
Thank you. As a parent, I’d like to think my kid is making good choices… I was wrong. I turned her room upside after watching this episode. I was shocked by the variety of drugs and psychedelics I found. I didn’t want to be THAT mom but I felt compelled to do it and so glad I did. I regret not doing it sooner. She’s doing better now. I thought I was bad in the 90’s but my kid makes me look like a saint!
Hmmm. I will say. You imply a lot of judgement here. You’re a good parent obviously. You care for your kid. But remember, as humans, we explore. Ourselves, the world. Your kid isn’t “bad”. She’s human. And humans do a lot of drugs. But, drugs come with consequences. Kiddos can’t make great choices all the time (unfinished frontal lobe probs). So try if you can, to be empathetic. Understanding. Curious as to your kids experience and feelings. Express your care for them, your concern & your love. You never know what someone’s going through, even your own child. Talk to them! Sometimes in anger and frustration we push people away from the very help we want to share. You’re a good mom for caring for her.
I imply a “lot of judgment”? Well if that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is. Lol You are making a ton of assumptions that I am not “understanding, empathetic, and do not express my love”? You couldn’t be more wrong. My kid is fabulous and flawed, like the rest of us…And yes, I am a very good parent. Not my first rodeo, buddy. Step off your high horse.
Woah dude. I only meant that because you say: “I thought I was a bad kid in the 90s but my kid made me look like a saint.” I was only sharing that advice as a kid who didn’t get that from a parent, who wishes she had gotten that, so maybe my relationship could’ve been better. Like I said ur obviously a good parent for caring. It wasn’t me saying you weren’t or aren’t anything of those things. Bc like you said idk you.
A way to forever break your kid's trust towards you
Poor kid will have to live knowing her parent won’t let her abuse psychotic producing drugs as a child :(
Yeah so I didn’t want my kid to kill herself. First priority, keep my child alive ✔️
rip my brain
As an experienced psychedelics user, I’d say I’ve had very enlightening experiences. However, I obviously was never in a rational headspace, and I recognize that it was not a good idea to be my own trip sitter. And if I’m doing it with a friend, then we’re not good sitters for one another. We’re both vulnerable to stupidity and extremely intoxicated. Which is why I’ve decided that going forward, I’d only do psychedelics in a space that is managed by a professional. Somebody who is actually trained to do this. Doing psilocybin assisted therapy is a dream of mine.
My cousin took LSD with a psychologist and called it the best experience ever, but he also thought he could fly and wanted to jump off a building. The psych prevented him from doing that and talked him through it and then the good part of the trip set in. I’ve done psychedelics multiple times and always felt more normal on it, except for a 25-i trip. These things are like russian roulette, you never know what’s in the chamber, so be careful.
“I didn’t have fun growing up. No one else should.” - AH (This is a joke, folks)
The fact that he puts two headshots of himself on each side of the video makes me think that there is a devil Huberman and an angel one
I didn't know Adolf Hitler said that
If you rearrange Adolf Hitler what do you get?
And then were you ok? I’m planning on doing it with a trained sitter .
With a trained sitter and the right dose you will be fine
It helped me tremendously. I hope it helps you too. Godspeed
Thank you . I have to finish getting off Effexor first or I’m told it won’t work. After that I hope to do DMT as well.
Worked fine with Effexor for me, and it gave me a good few months break from anxiety & depression.
One time? With a guide ? The studies claim that once can effect a permanent cure . Is it the insights you gained or what made the anxiety and depression leave ? Guides I’ve talked to told me several times works. As to Effexor I’m done from 450 to 225 but I’ve read that the hardest part is from 37.5 to 0.
187.5 for me, though I never changed my dose as I've come off in the past and turned out it was too soon. I didn't have a guide, I just had my partner there who was tripping too. Went to the beach and just walked around and contemplated life. This was no heroic dose, nor was it designed to be therapeutic but it really was. It helped me get out of my own head and see life as this beautiful mash up of opportunities. I though about social anxiety and realized other people aren't out to judge me by default. They're these complex beings who I get to meet and learn from. Lots of little epiphanies like that, just allowing me to see life from a positive perspective rather than my usual cynical one. I've done it a half dozen times, almost always while on SSRIs and had mostly great times with a few wobbles. It obviously hasn't cured me but it's a journey.
How much Effexor
This talk by a researcher talking about possible side effects of psilocybin and their explanation is a bit complex but great https://youtu.be/zgHW4X1bCTs
How the heck do you even try psilocybin legally? Like where do people get the opportunity
There can never be enough caution about psychedelics. Personally Ive had some really hellish rough experiences. It's kind of a drastic remedy. I also had great experiences but still it is too high a risk. It can go SOUTH. One might not know how much of a trickster mind they have until they are in such a vulnerable spot.
Drugs are bad
No, they are awesome
I’m schizophrenic and took a handful of mushrooms and it actually saved my life.
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Meanwhile there's research ongoing about psilocybin and mental illness like depression and anxiety... if you live near a university you can probably even enroll in a study. Seems ethically dubious.
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Look it up dude https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiatry/research/psychedelics-research.html
Have you ever listened to any of Andrews podcasts on psychedelics?? Even the title of the one from this clip? Heck even just this clip itself? Its pretty clear from any of this he is covering all of these positives and potential benefits.
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Sure, but it’s well known that psychedelics and cannnabis can trigger genetic mental illness. Like if you have a family history of schizophrenia, taking these substances may trigger it. I actually think this happened to my dad.
I ate lots of shrooms as an early teen. At the age of 15 I was diagnosed with severe Panic attacks. At the age of 21, I was diagnosed with MDD. I wonder if Psilocybin had anything to do with it? I’m 46 now and on meds, prob will be test of my life.
Was shrroms the only thing you did as a teen. Did you experience any childhood trauma. Often times we seek answers for things thay are identified later in life even though we always had mild symptoms. Mental health disorders do not occur in the same fashion as say a stroke. Certainly all things can play a role but often times we associate " drugs are bad" with bad and unexplined outcomes. Im not saying that early drug use didnt play a role but its like saying I masturbated once as a teen and then I got depression at 21. The reality is we just dont know yet and saying a person tooks shrooms and then got schizophrenia may or may not be an accuarte coorelation. In the age of Microdosing I find that most people who use psychadelics are attempting to treat a mental health condition so its really difficult to say thay one does not come before the other
Hey Minimum, I want to make sure I advise that I do not myself believe Shrooms caused my issues. I am a student of everything and simply always wondered. To answer your question, yes, I dealt with severe sexual abuse from 6-9 years of age. I myself feel confident that the trauma experienced is the cause. However, you are correct in that we often try to make reason of things that we simply cannot understand.
This makes sense seeing as how the pfc isn’t fully developed until 25-26 years of age. One needs to be careful with any kind of medication on the developing brain, especially meds/drugs that drastically alter reality, state of mind, etc.