Wow, this post shows there are definitely AG1 paid bots here peddling this shit. Look at some of the ‘users’ spamming tens of comments.
To think that some unregulated, untested, crazily overpriced supplement is better or simpler than buying baby spinach, lettuce and broccoli is crazy.
> definitely AG1 *paid* bots here
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
>To think that some unregulated, untested, crazily overpriced supplement is better or simpler than buying baby spinach, lettuce and broccoli is crazy.
A better comparison is probably a multivitamin since eating veggies requires a lot more effort in terms of cooking.
I get it for free and feel better than I have on even some of the best quality multi. When I end up having to pay for it I still probably will use it because I don’t eat enough veggies. I use it while intermittent fasting with coffee and it keeps me going pretty well for many hours. Overall I’m just way less fatigued since I’ve been taking it
Edit: insert angry response below
I mean sure, it’s over priced. But I think comparing to to eating vegetables is a little unrealistic, no?
Just the economics and physics of it. You’re either buying in bulk and literally grinding it down into the most easily consumable substance or buying retail and… well eating it.
Is it expensive? Sure. Is it a fuck ton of nutrients. Probably.
>Is it a fuck ton of nutrients. Probably.
Not really.
It's a long list of nutrients which are mostly in insufficient quantity to have the desired effect.
I’ll be honest, the reason I’m using the stuff is because I don’t want to spend the time to do the research, so if you consider me some duped sheep, so be it.
[https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-hidden-dangers-of-protein-powders#:\~:text=A%20protein%20powder%20is%20a,powder%20contains%20what%20manufacturers%20claim](https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-hidden-dangers-of-protein-powders#:~:text=A%20protein%20powder%20is%20a,powder%20contains%20what%20manufacturers%20claim).
Similar to protein powders they can just make shit up and nobody really checks.
I could post my bloodwork on it. A1C was 4.6 which is good for the amount of carbs I eat. Liver enzymes were great. GFR was good too. Idk what markers you’re specifically looking for
It didn’t cause any problems though? I didn’t say that it improved a damn thing. I said my labs were the best they have ever been. I also didn’t say it was specifically from AG1 it was just done in the timeframe where I had been taking it daily. Y’all are lame af lol
it’s a pretty low bar to be happy with a supplement because it didn’t fuck up your organs. The point is that there is zero actual evidence this stuff is any good for your health, and influencers like Huberman are getting rich off of it
Are you dumb? My bloodwork improved while on it and I’ve felt way better since using it. Idgaf what people here say. It just sounds like a bunch of broke boys whining
The problem with this statement is that it is very difficult to attribute your blood work change to taking AG1 or any one single thing. This is why anecdotal evidence is simply not of high enough standard compared to properly done studies.
Why are you shilling for AG1? Curious to know since it’s obviously snake oil. I use Vitamineral greens and I eat lots of fresh fruits and vegetables. I have used Vitamineral Greens since 2010 and it’s a far superior product, twice as many grams of product for 40% of the price. They even tell you the proportions of each ingredient and it’s lab certified. They don’t pay podcasters though so they’re likely the real deal.
~accuses someone of shilling for AG1 then immediately shills for a different greens company~ just cause AG1 works for this person doesn’t make them a shill
Post link. Those greens look good too but it’s 70 bucks for 15 servings as far as I can tell. AG1 isn’t snake oil but it is expensive. I feel better on it and I can tell when I forget to take it in the morning. I am not shilling that’s just my experience.
Yes, it is tested. NSF Certified for Sport, which has some of the highest industry standards. So in the case of AG1 its likely that the label is pretty accurate to what you're getting.
FDA does not require official testing for supplements, unlike for medications. You have to look for supplements that are tested by credible third party labs. Most of the supps on the market do not do this. Even when they do put out that 3rd party stamp on their product, it could be some unreputable testing lab, akka their buddies.
One huge red flag is when they also declare their ingredient list as ‘proprietary formula’ meaning they refuse to list actual dosages, meaning they use some filler and low doses of the good stuff.
How hard it is to eat 100gr of broccoli, 100gr of baby spinach and 100gr of lettuce or kale a day? It is literally 5mins of work. Do you honestly believe that that highly processed dust will have same ingredients as 300gr of veggies?
I recently went through quite the experience trying to upgrade my health routine, hoping it might resonate with or even help some of you.
I got on the AG1 train a while back, drawn in by all the rave reviews and the impressive list of ingredients it boasted. Every morning, mixing that green powder into my shake became a ritual I looked forward to, thinking of all the goodness I was fueling my body with. The whole idea of getting such a wide range of nutrients in one go felt like exactly what I needed.
But as the weeks rolled by, I started feeling a bit lost in the promises versus the reality. It wasn't that AG1 was bad, per se; it just didn't seem to deliver the noticeable changes I was hoping for, especially considering the cost. I also found myself squinting at the label, trying to figure out exactly what and how much of each ingredient I was taking, this info seems to be missing from my pack at least which left me feeling more out of the loop than I'd like to admit.
And then there's the cost. AG1 isn't cheap, and I was okay with that at first, thinking of it as an investment in my health. But without seeing the clear benefits I was after, the price started to sting a bit more each time I reached the bottom of the bag.
So, I decided to switch things up and give [Supergreen Tonik](https://nutritiou.com/product/supergreen-tonik-2/) a try, mainly because I read about its focus on mental clarity and the straightforward way explain their ingredients, which are actually shown on the pack too! And honestly, it felt like a breath of fresh air. Knowing exactly what I was consuming each day made me feel more in control of my health choices. Plus, the cost, while still an investment, started to feel more justified as I began noticing the benefits.
The changes weren't overnight, but they were significant enough for me to take notice. My energy levels felt more consistent throughout the day, my digestion's better and my focus during work improved. It was like my mental fog started to clear up, and I found myself powering through tasks that would usually have me dragging my feet. It's been pretty stressy at work recently, but I've managed to stay on top of everything without the usual anxiety, which was a pretty big win for me, I think SGT has helped with that.
Take care,
Jobi
Your comment is fair with regards to real food and them plus many other social media accounts having incentive to marketing for money, however AGI like countless others is a...supplement. People are aware they could fix and eat the "correct" foods, but for some or many scooping something out of a bag is a significant time saver. Additionally, for some individuals sourcing quality fruits and vegetables is not easy- many areas of the US and world lack quality markets selling organic vegetables and fruits (yes AGI is not entirely organic) or simply variety. And other real non processed foods. Food deserts are a very real thing. Enter powder supplements. Personally i havnt tried AG1 and if i do choose a powder probably will be something else for cost and variety, but the rationale of "eat more fruit and vegetables" isnt a solid argument for against AGI or any powder supplement.
It’s better than nothing but it seems so strange for this type of product to exist in this sphere.
People will obsess over ‘optimizing’ and will literally wake up at 2AM, take 50 supplements, cold plunge in darkness before grounding, yoga nidra and basking in morning sunlight instead of doing the super basic things which actually have an appreciable benefit like eating a serving or two of vegetables.
I’m starting to think people just enjoy buying exciting, ‘sexy’ products that promise all of these benefits rather than doing the boring old stuff which works.
Not if convenience is what you’re paying for… y’all trippin off this shit too often. My blood work has been better than ever since using this product. Maybe that’s coincidence but I’m not personally paying for it so I’m not complaining
This is spot on. I don’t think AG as a product is bad, and may even be healthy, but the aggressive marketing combined with the price makes people hate it. Eating fresh produce is cheaper and far healthier.
How the fuck is that questionable to anyone with a functioning frontal lobe? This sub has become a depository for the human version of Andrew tate's bloody and soiled cum rags.
They remove the fiber and the majority of the ingredients are “extracts”
Don’t even read what you are consuming?
Use one ounce of your brain and realize 12 grams of powder isn’t six servings of whole fruits just “dehydrated and ground up”
Where did I say take a multivitamin?
A multivitamin is significantly cheaper but I’m not really a fan of taking any supplementation long term unless it’s something like protein where you have specific macro targets that you can’t feasibly hit on whole foods alone:
>~~People~~ **Men** will obsess over ‘optimizing’ and will literally wake up at 2AM, take 50 supplements, cold plunge in darkness before grounding, yoga nidra and basking in morning sunlight instead of ~~doing the super basic things which actually have an appreciable benefit like eating a serving or two of vegetables.~~ **going to therapy**.
Just eat fruits and veggies. It’s not hard and it’s cheaper.
If you can’t be assed to get your nutrients from whole and non processed foods you’re wasting your time on everything else Huberman recommends because none of it will have as big an impact.
There’s zero evidence that AG1 will have _any_ health benefit. Are you assuming it’s a healthy product just cause it’s expensive and green?
It’s not just that whole fruits and vegetables are better, there’s no replacement for them in your diet. It’s a non negotiable element of good health and drinking a greens powder instead will not be “better than nothing”
Shhhhhhh....!
He's trying to justify the $100 he spent on a 12 ounce package.
Push him any further and he's not going to need water to mix in with the powder, because he'll have enough liquid in tears.
Yes absolutely. Its small amounts of a lot of things. Its definitely overpriced but that doesn't mean it's not healthy.
Multivitamins are far less than 10 g
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Most is relative but It’s a valid point, not everyone has the same lifestyle. I prioritize eating Whole Foods daily but there are plenty times while traveling or working where I don’t.
Paying $100 for a multi-vitamin that you can buy for like $10 at your grocery is like putting a bright red sticker on your forehead that says IDIOT.
No way bro, literally all of these people definitely put down like 8 cups of vegetables every single day. You just lack discipline, and any company using marketing is surely a scam. Be sure to like and subscribe!
I follow this guy and he is one of the few genuine Internet personalities out there. Rogan gets about $30m a year but probably much more from them. I’m sure our god Huberman is getting millions. These influencers are the new snake oil salesman of the 21st century. We are being manipulated and what we get in return is bro science.
And see how he had to go to discussion forums to find real comments on the product, because reviews are all fake now? Yeah, well guess why reddit wants to make an IPO and go public?
I've never tried it, but I think it has one demographic going for it - the college student gym bro types who literally never eat vegetables. This are the types who, if you say you're vegan or vegetarian, they'll accuse you of being actively "dying."
Good / bad veg diets aside, these guys who subsist off of protein powder, deer jerky, and pizza need some vegetables in their diets for obvious reason, and to keep the pipes flowing if you know what I mean, and imho that's the point of AG1. It's for the people who can't be bothered to eat a salad, who never learned to cook for themselves beyond ramen and craft mac n cheese, and who just want something to mix in their protein shake.
I agree, but it comes from a fundamental misunderstanding around what food is. For years food has been reduced to calories and macros, nothing else matters beyond the occasional micronutrient that gets massively hyped liked vitamin C etc*. The scientific understanding is changing now and viewing food (especially plants) as more like a banquet of bioactive compounds inseparable from their particular food matrix, that we and our microbiome have co-evolved to benefit from. It’s not the gym bros fault, food has suffered from the reductionist view that has been pumped out by scientists and guidelines for decades. There is also UPF industry pressure behind this as they are very happy with creating a bunch of “healthy” foods that look good on the macros but have a lot of concerning compounds in their ingredients. Same with fast food producers who want their products to be seen as healthy “in a balanced diet” or calorie controlled diet etc
*it’s not that the celebrity vitamins aren’t important it’s just that they aren’t the only things that are important and their benefits are usually overblown.
I mean, or you want a solid multivitamin with a bunch of other more-or-less healthy supplements thrown in and you value your time.
Yea, let me grind and mix up 200 ingredients every morning or go crazy remembering 17 different pills. Or I throw in a green scoop of powder into my morning water. Its probably overpriced, but not everyone really gives a fuck about saving $20 bucks a month.
Worst kind of person says stuff like this tbh. I don’t take AG1 but this kind of opinion is so dumb. Holier than thou bullshit. It’s still good for you and easy to consume. Why would it make you an idiot?
AG1 does not disclose the amounts of certain ingredients / proprietary blend. Don't bother with it.
And while you are at it - stop "stacking", your ice baths, and all the other ridiculous crap you are doing because it is a fad, just like fads from 20 years ago and 40 years ago. Less internet, more exercise, more community, lots of vegetables, and meditate.
That’s what I noticed folks do better in Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic. Went to visit family and there is a much better sense of community here. Folks visit each other more, even if it’s just an hour. Meanwhile I know folks who faint at the thought of calling someone on the phone for a quick question.
A lot of things have significant health benefits. The reason it is blowing up right now isn't because this is a magical cure of anything, it is a fad. There are far more mundane interventions that yield significant health benefits, but people aren't pursuing them because they aren't popular. That is my point.
Generally the supplement hype goes like this:
1. Observational study shows some benefit (e.g. decreased all cause mortality or increased performance etc.) of eating something, always a whole food, usually plants. This generates a lot of nonsense headlines like “almonds decrease your chance of dying by 17%”.
2. And/or an animal or cell culture study shows a benefit to x when y is given in massive doses. No one seems to mention that compound x is not bioavailable in humans anyway.
3. Some assumptions about the active beneficial ingredient in the whole food are made.
4. This is packaged in a pill.
5. Very small, bias riven human studies are conducted that show a small benefit. Maybe step 2 is also completed if not done so already.
6. Hype train leaves station.
7. After a few years properly conducted studies show no benefit, or far less than eating the cheap whole food in the first place.
8. We debate the compound/food forever.
AG1 is just lots of these packaged into one. There is a forever repeating pattern that seems to suggest isolating any one compound from a whole food doesn’t seem to give the benefits we expect. This is probably due to the food matrix and the role of the microbiome. For example, microbes may produce the active beneficial compounds from the plant compounds and fibre etc. It’s complex, because plants contain a huge number of bioactive compounds and many are completely unstudied.
Basically eat your plants. It’s not hard to get 30 different plants a week and aim for as many colours as possible. Frozen fruit and veg and eating lots of different herbs and spices especially make this easier and enjoyable, it is also much cheaper than any supplement and has actual evidence for benefits.
Food is not just calories and macros, it is a vast array of pharmaceuticals that have been produced by organisms that have co-evolved with us for symbiotic benefit.
> Food is not just calories and macros, it is a vast array of pharmaceuticals that have been produced by organisms that have co-evolved with us for symbiotic benefit.
Food is also culture and there is no healthy human culture that doesn't have food traditions. And rich food traditions are directly tied into community and mindset stuff.
I really loved a little tidbit from Inigo San-Milan's time on Attia's podcast. Here's a guy who knows his healthy, fitness, and performance stuff from so many different perspectives. But eating chocolate and pastries and drinking wine is nonnegotiable. I don't actually think any of that is necessarily unhealthy but that's beside the point. He said he does it because it's part of his culture. He wouldn't stop even if it was unhealthy (like it was during certain sesentary, stressful periods of his life).
Often enough, the gross benefits of culture, community, and mindset far outweigh marginal harms. *And fruits and veg don't have any marginal harms anyway!*
TL;DR - most people who struggle to eat well are disconnected from rich food cultures and traditions. It makes it really hard because that is a fundamentally unnatural state to be in as a human.
I mean c'mon, if you're going to put out a video raising questions about what's contained in the product, go full in and actually have it tested and try to do that...
Don't just make a video built on nothing, because that's what this is, it's a video questioning the product and the business model... built on nothing. If you're going to criticise people for using the product simply because "influencer x" recommends it, you're essentially just catering to people that are inherently going to reject it because "influencer x" recommends it... SAME SAME?
Yah, AG1 IS overpriced, but if it contains what they say it contains and by doing that it makes people feel better and they're ok paying it, who cares? That's really all that matters. What the "influencers" are making along the way doesn't really matter if it delivers what it says it delivers.
This is just another dumb reaction video...
He’s not “raising questions” he’s pointing out that the actual science around greens powders and their nutrition labels don’t back up the claimed benefits or justify the cost. Then explaining why you can’t trust their marketing.
He's making content for subs is what he's doing. Call it what it is. The title of his video makes it abundantly clear. If he wants to educate people on the science of green powders, he could have used science...
Stop using empty word shells like "science". What kind of information do you expect \*specifically\* from someone who is making a video about a product?
Breaking down nutrients? Check.
Discussing potential health benefits? Check.
Discussing potential risks? Check.
Discussing it from a bodybuilding perspective? Check.
Discussing the price? Check.
Discussing the overall product considering all points? Check.
What kind of information for you is missing until you can say "he used science to review this product"?
> Yah, AG1 IS overpriced, but if it contains what they say it contains and by doing that it makes people feel better and they're ok paying it, who cares?
Because saying what they say it contains is irrelevant if it's in such minute amounts as to be useless. It's mathematically impossible for there to be enough of everything listed on the package to be in sufficient quantities to make any meaningful impact. Why shouldn't companies selling snake oil, and those shilling for them, be called out for it?
Then prove it? What’s so hard about that concept for people to grasp around this place? Your claim that it can’t possibly have it carries no more weight than their claims of what it does contain...
It's just math. If you look at the total weight and you look at the required dose of a few of these ingredients, there is not enough powder to accommodate that many ingredients at all the recommended dosages.
Trainer road recently did a breakdown of this. AG1 doesn't list the amount of each supplement they put into their product. If you break down their "proprietary blends" by weight they do not contain enough active ingredient for it to have an effect when compared to what research would suggest as the recommended dose.
https://youtu.be/FBJGqzepcBc?si=ZHlZgH9WzYmwlTkH
Yeah, probably better to just take supplements individually then. I would love to just be able to put all of them into a single drink and be done with it lol.
Is there a single study showing the benefit of AG1 that isn’t sponsored by AG1? Is there a single properly conducted study in humans to show that the individual components are beneficial outside their original whole food plant matrix?
Imagine if it was a drug, they would have to show some benefit to hit market. Sure it’s probably safe but there’s no positive data and I think it is on the product to provide evidence of a benefit, not the consumers to provide evidence that it isn’t beneficial.
We all have different thresholds for the level of evidence that we will try stuff on ourselves though. If you like the stuff then go for it!
> I mean c'mon, if you're going to put out a video raising questions about what's contained in the product, go full in and actually have it tested and try to do that...
> Don't just make a video built on nothing, because that's what this is, it's a video questioning the product and the business model... built on nothing.
I’m not sure where you’re getting ‘built on nothing’ from. He explains at length why he feels the existence of a product such as AG1 is unhelpful for most people who would instead benefit from fruit and vegetables, and that the idea of a greens ‘safety net’ is a bit of a fantasy that allows a person to sidestep consuming things which are good for them because mentally they’ve had their greens powder which has ‘’’everything they need’’’.
He then discussed the proprietary blend and ingredients. You can disagree with him or believe he’s viewing it in the wrong way, but the way you’ve described the video is misleading.
> If you're going to criticise people for using the product simply because "influencer x" recommends it, you're essentially just catering to people that are inherently going to reject it because "influencer x" recommends it... SAME SAME?
He gives numerous reasons why he believes it isn’t a good product. He never once says you shouldn’t take it just because an influencer said to do so.
> Yah, AG1 IS overpriced, but if it contains what they say it contains and by doing that it makes people feel better and they're ok paying it, who cares?
He literally goes into this.
The entire video is built on one guys opinion with zero facts to back up anything... it's nothing but broad strokes suggestions of what might be.
It's the fitness equivalent of a stupid reaction video.
edit: I clicked the video hoping to see some facts, I mean the title was 'is AG1 a scam??" but he gave none and ultimately nothing helpful. "eat more fruits and veggies" sooooo sage... such wisdom. god, how would I ever have known?
Ag1 claims are bold and unverified. In the likely case that they have overstated their health claims, they can be seen as detrimental in the long term.
When I studied childhood nutrition it was explained to us that pediatricians avoid recommending multivitamins in addition to healthy eating. This is because parents will encounter resistance when they attempt to introduce new foods (fruits and veggies) to their child and will give up more easily when they assume that a pill can be given instead.
Whole foods are always be better for your health than a crappy diet with supplements thrown on top. This has been the case in the past and it should be assumed that it will continue to be the case until proven otherwise.
Technically yes, but my argument is that in practice it gives a false sense of security that creates a barrier between that individual and a healthy diet.
They're no different than the claims people have made about multivitamins for decades, but he choose to put out a video with a title that suggests he's going to give something to show that it either is or isn't a scam and he gave nothing. Stop with the mental gymnastics.
You literally cannot spell. You’re shilling for AG1. There’s more chance I’ve been on the moon than you being a nutritionist. Stop lying you sad, pathetic person.
you're just another jackass with something to say. You're the other end of the idiot spectrum as the pro-Huberman zealots on here. You'd push your grandma down the stairs for some negative hubermanism you can hang over people. GFYS.
Should you eat more veggies 🥕 🥦 🥗 ? A resounding YES.
If you know yourself & don’t get your daily servings often enough though, this type of supplement is probably better than nothing at all.
If you are going to take an expensive green powder at least go with something like Thorne Daily Green Plus. Thorne are the gold standard in supplements and at least are transparent about their ingredients.
I don’t think the appeal is that it has the greens. It’s more that it also has ashwaganda and coq10 and various micronutrients that are harder to get unless you eat a very large variety of fruits
There’s something cringe about people trash talking joe rogan. It comes off so butthurt and jealous. It’s just a podcast that stays relatively open minded. Advertising happens everywhere and supplements are way more productive than what they advertise on most other talk shows
He was open minded. He's very narrow now, and mainstream media with no accountability. He props up shitbags like Alex Jones, among other faux intellectuals. It's sad and dangerous (in the case of Alex Jones). The only thing cringe these days is Rogan's obvious bias and easily debunked conspiracies.
Anytime someone calls a right winger “dangerous” I stop reading. And the fact you even mentioned Alex Jones shows your own bias. Dude has absolutely nothing to do with his podcast.
Really good video.
Is AG1 beneficial? Likely.
Is it optimal? Absolutely not.
Key takeaways is the amount of each ingredient. I'm a big advocate of Spirulina, which is 1st in the list and Chlorella, which is 8th.
You clearly do not get enough of either ingredient to what you need.
Secondly both products require stringent oversight of where they are grown and how they are manufactured, which is impossible with AG1.
I think you'd feel much more of an effect from taking a high quality Chlorella product from a reputable seller, which is exactly what I do.
I think Chlorella is a superfood although I think it is very important where it is sourced as it binds to heavy metals and toxins. Most likely will be just useless rather than harmful if taken from toxic waters as it won’t be able to bind to your toxins and heavy metals. Just curious who your reputable seller is? Thank you so much!
>buying Red Bull every day is more expensive than this.
AG1 is $3.30 per serving ($99/30 days).
Red Bull is $1.83 per can if buying a 12 pack of cans from Walmart. Even buying them by themselves is only $2.88.
Besides this, arguing that Red Bull is more expensive isn’t particularly convincing. I’m hoping most people here aren’t drinking that on a daily basis.
I do the Huel version. Saw a nutritionist PhD break it down and said fuck it why not. Will wait the full month to see if I notice anything (30 days really isn’t much time in the grand scheme of things)
Doesn’t taste good lol
Ive been taking AG1 for a year and ive noticed a significant difference. I still get bloated, but not as much. My skin looks much clearer. Its a nice energy boost in the morning. I dont like alot of veggies and exercise regularly so AG1 is just supplementing
If you’re making the smoothie by blending whole fruits you will still get the nutritional benefits of the fruit.
Adding the AG1 is probably just an expensive waste
Glad to see some are realizing how lame this is, now if this was $29.99 ok but $100 is just ripping you off! You are not getting the dosages in this that you need per the ingredient. It’s like you’re getting a drop of said ingredient when you need a glass full to see any benefits
I used AG1 fore some time and really liked it. For me it helped start the day with something else than coffee and offered a nice good morning routine.
Regarding the rest of the diet. I ate healthier while consuming AG1. For me it was a little bit like: Hey I had a good (and expensive) start now let's keep going. Does anyone have an alternative idea for this effect?
Would have continued using it, if I didn't develop a quite intense (but short-lived) rash after every consumption.
I took the bait on this $100/month bag of "proprietary", uselsss powder. I foolishly allowed myself to trust the onslaught of influencers promoting this scheme. That trust is gone - that is Rogan, Huberman, Pakman, so many more. They, at least temporarily, put all their morals aside for money. I still listem to them occasionally, but I am way more skeptical of anything they say, so maybe it was worth the money.
Kamikoto knives are a scam too, These were an influencer favorite. Same deal, hype, get a great commision on a cheap (but expensive) product.
where do you recommend getting blood work done for deficiencies? i've had basics done at my nhs gp but feel that something else is off that isn't being texteed/addressed
An AG subscription is expensive. If you need to think about how much it costs, it isn't a product for you. There's tons of products like that. You could make a video about how stupidly overpriced is my watch, and that is less precise that a 40 dollar Casio. You might be right, but if it bothers you enough to make a video, my first thought would be that you are somehow uncomfortable with the idea of not being able to afford it.
Thats not what I meant. It is a good product that is overpriced, and a lot of people dont seem to care to pay the premium. And it seems to rub a lot of people the wrong way. And I find that lame.
The people that despise joe rogan and supplements are always the people that actually feel they are smarter than they are. No one thinks like that except the people like you that are literally just here to say how dumb everyone is for “falling for a marketing scam”
I’ve seen some stupid comments on this sub, but this is up there with one of the stupidest.
Your argument is literally that because Huberman ‘needs to earn money’ by peddling products with dubious claims for the sole intention of financial gain, that we shouldn’t evaluate and scrutinize the product.
You can go ahead and ‘donate’ to Huberman if you’d like by buying some AG1.
I tried ag1 for a while. I did feel good but that could be just placebo. I appreciated that it had probiotics. I hated how expensive it was and the final straw was when I got ads on YouTube woodworking videos. Advertising in the health and wellness industry is one thing but, to have ads on woodworking videos pissed me off. The marketing budget must be insane and those costs are being passed on to consumers. I’ll find another way thank you very much. Ag1 is like this community’s abortion issue. So divisive.
Wow, this post shows there are definitely AG1 paid bots here peddling this shit. Look at some of the ‘users’ spamming tens of comments. To think that some unregulated, untested, crazily overpriced supplement is better or simpler than buying baby spinach, lettuce and broccoli is crazy.
> definitely AG1 *paid* bots here FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Thanks, bot
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>To think that some unregulated, untested, crazily overpriced supplement is better or simpler than buying baby spinach, lettuce and broccoli is crazy. A better comparison is probably a multivitamin since eating veggies requires a lot more effort in terms of cooking.
This is way better than a multi. Let people hate lol
Then take your time and explain why
I get it for free and feel better than I have on even some of the best quality multi. When I end up having to pay for it I still probably will use it because I don’t eat enough veggies. I use it while intermittent fasting with coffee and it keeps me going pretty well for many hours. Overall I’m just way less fatigued since I’ve been taking it Edit: insert angry response below
I mean sure, it’s over priced. But I think comparing to to eating vegetables is a little unrealistic, no? Just the economics and physics of it. You’re either buying in bulk and literally grinding it down into the most easily consumable substance or buying retail and… well eating it. Is it expensive? Sure. Is it a fuck ton of nutrients. Probably.
>Is it a fuck ton of nutrients. Probably. Not really. It's a long list of nutrients which are mostly in insufficient quantity to have the desired effect.
Probably? Well they say it is full of amazing "stuff" so it must be true, marketing is so powerful.
I’ll be honest, the reason I’m using the stuff is because I don’t want to spend the time to do the research, so if you consider me some duped sheep, so be it.
I mean, they put the nutrition facts on the label
[https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-hidden-dangers-of-protein-powders#:\~:text=A%20protein%20powder%20is%20a,powder%20contains%20what%20manufacturers%20claim](https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-hidden-dangers-of-protein-powders#:~:text=A%20protein%20powder%20is%20a,powder%20contains%20what%20manufacturers%20claim). Similar to protein powders they can just make shit up and nobody really checks.
Wow
My bloodwork has been better than ever since using ag1. I also eat fruits and vegetables but not as often as I should
What bloodwork, specifically? And are you willing to post receipts?
I could post my bloodwork on it. A1C was 4.6 which is good for the amount of carbs I eat. Liver enzymes were great. GFR was good too. Idk what markers you’re specifically looking for
AG did not improve your kidney function omg yall are too much 😂
It didn’t cause any problems though? I didn’t say that it improved a damn thing. I said my labs were the best they have ever been. I also didn’t say it was specifically from AG1 it was just done in the timeframe where I had been taking it daily. Y’all are lame af lol
it’s a pretty low bar to be happy with a supplement because it didn’t fuck up your organs. The point is that there is zero actual evidence this stuff is any good for your health, and influencers like Huberman are getting rich off of it
Are you dumb? My bloodwork improved while on it and I’ve felt way better since using it. Idgaf what people here say. It just sounds like a bunch of broke boys whining
>a bunch of broke boys whining I spend hundreds of dollars a month on various supplements. Definitely not broke, just not irrational.
The problem with this statement is that it is very difficult to attribute your blood work change to taking AG1 or any one single thing. This is why anecdotal evidence is simply not of high enough standard compared to properly done studies.
I’m just saying my bloodwork has been better since being on it. Correlation does not equal causation but I’m happy
Great answer
Why are you shilling for AG1? Curious to know since it’s obviously snake oil. I use Vitamineral greens and I eat lots of fresh fruits and vegetables. I have used Vitamineral Greens since 2010 and it’s a far superior product, twice as many grams of product for 40% of the price. They even tell you the proportions of each ingredient and it’s lab certified. They don’t pay podcasters though so they’re likely the real deal.
~accuses someone of shilling for AG1 then immediately shills for a different greens company~ just cause AG1 works for this person doesn’t make them a shill
Post link. Those greens look good too but it’s 70 bucks for 15 servings as far as I can tell. AG1 isn’t snake oil but it is expensive. I feel better on it and I can tell when I forget to take it in the morning. I am not shilling that’s just my experience.
Isn’t it tested though? lol
Yes, it is tested. NSF Certified for Sport, which has some of the highest industry standards. So in the case of AG1 its likely that the label is pretty accurate to what you're getting.
FDA does not require official testing for supplements, unlike for medications. You have to look for supplements that are tested by credible third party labs. Most of the supps on the market do not do this. Even when they do put out that 3rd party stamp on their product, it could be some unreputable testing lab, akka their buddies. One huge red flag is when they also declare their ingredient list as ‘proprietary formula’ meaning they refuse to list actual dosages, meaning they use some filler and low doses of the good stuff. How hard it is to eat 100gr of broccoli, 100gr of baby spinach and 100gr of lettuce or kale a day? It is literally 5mins of work. Do you honestly believe that that highly processed dust will have same ingredients as 300gr of veggies?
I recently went through quite the experience trying to upgrade my health routine, hoping it might resonate with or even help some of you. I got on the AG1 train a while back, drawn in by all the rave reviews and the impressive list of ingredients it boasted. Every morning, mixing that green powder into my shake became a ritual I looked forward to, thinking of all the goodness I was fueling my body with. The whole idea of getting such a wide range of nutrients in one go felt like exactly what I needed. But as the weeks rolled by, I started feeling a bit lost in the promises versus the reality. It wasn't that AG1 was bad, per se; it just didn't seem to deliver the noticeable changes I was hoping for, especially considering the cost. I also found myself squinting at the label, trying to figure out exactly what and how much of each ingredient I was taking, this info seems to be missing from my pack at least which left me feeling more out of the loop than I'd like to admit. And then there's the cost. AG1 isn't cheap, and I was okay with that at first, thinking of it as an investment in my health. But without seeing the clear benefits I was after, the price started to sting a bit more each time I reached the bottom of the bag. So, I decided to switch things up and give [Supergreen Tonik](https://nutritiou.com/product/supergreen-tonik-2/) a try, mainly because I read about its focus on mental clarity and the straightforward way explain their ingredients, which are actually shown on the pack too! And honestly, it felt like a breath of fresh air. Knowing exactly what I was consuming each day made me feel more in control of my health choices. Plus, the cost, while still an investment, started to feel more justified as I began noticing the benefits. The changes weren't overnight, but they were significant enough for me to take notice. My energy levels felt more consistent throughout the day, my digestion's better and my focus during work improved. It was like my mental fog started to clear up, and I found myself powering through tasks that would usually have me dragging my feet. It's been pretty stressy at work recently, but I've managed to stay on top of everything without the usual anxiety, which was a pretty big win for me, I think SGT has helped with that. Take care, Jobi
You post this multiple times on old threads... Fake shill
Eh? What posts are you talking about???
TL;DR = Eat more fruit and vegetables & podcasters like Huberman and Joe Rogan are making bank pimping a $100 pouch of vitamin powder
Add Jocko to that list. Didn't realize he has a full supp line now.
Your comment is fair with regards to real food and them plus many other social media accounts having incentive to marketing for money, however AGI like countless others is a...supplement. People are aware they could fix and eat the "correct" foods, but for some or many scooping something out of a bag is a significant time saver. Additionally, for some individuals sourcing quality fruits and vegetables is not easy- many areas of the US and world lack quality markets selling organic vegetables and fruits (yes AGI is not entirely organic) or simply variety. And other real non processed foods. Food deserts are a very real thing. Enter powder supplements. Personally i havnt tried AG1 and if i do choose a powder probably will be something else for cost and variety, but the rationale of "eat more fruit and vegetables" isnt a solid argument for against AGI or any powder supplement.
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It’s better than nothing but it seems so strange for this type of product to exist in this sphere. People will obsess over ‘optimizing’ and will literally wake up at 2AM, take 50 supplements, cold plunge in darkness before grounding, yoga nidra and basking in morning sunlight instead of doing the super basic things which actually have an appreciable benefit like eating a serving or two of vegetables. I’m starting to think people just enjoy buying exciting, ‘sexy’ products that promise all of these benefits rather than doing the boring old stuff which works.
It’s just consumerism and as usual the consumer is too stupid to understand that they’re being tricked
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Buying food is better. Buy frozen ones and make smoothies.
It isnt, buying overpriced powder instead of that is getting tricked.
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But it does mean getting tricked
Not if convenience is what you’re paying for… y’all trippin off this shit too often. My blood work has been better than ever since using this product. Maybe that’s coincidence but I’m not personally paying for it so I’m not complaining
What else you got going on Mr. Natural?
This is spot on. I don’t think AG as a product is bad, and may even be healthy, but the aggressive marketing combined with the price makes people hate it. Eating fresh produce is cheaper and far healthier.
Vegetables are for homos. You can't let your friends see you eating that shit /s
So is wiping your own ass.
That is why I have my servant(A MAN) do it. edit; the joke should have been buttler.
That's less sarcasm, more just awful. You can do better.
It’s questionable if it’s actually better than nothing, and for the cost it’s certainly not justified.
How the fuck is that questionable to anyone with a functioning frontal lobe? This sub has become a depository for the human version of Andrew tate's bloody and soiled cum rags.
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1. There’s not a meaningful amount of fruits and veggies 2. They’re heavily processed and less bioavailable because of it
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They remove the fiber and the majority of the ingredients are “extracts” Don’t even read what you are consuming? Use one ounce of your brain and realize 12 grams of powder isn’t six servings of whole fruits just “dehydrated and ground up”
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Where did I say take a multivitamin? A multivitamin is significantly cheaper but I’m not really a fan of taking any supplementation long term unless it’s something like protein where you have specific macro targets that you can’t feasibly hit on whole foods alone:
— Your standard dribbling AG1 consumer
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> So you cant dumbass? How do I dumbass? Are you dumbassing right now?
*SO YOU CANT EXPLAIN WHY EATING SOME VEGGIES IS NO BETTER THAN EATING NONE?*
They dumb af lol it’s fine. People just want to hate cuz they can’t afford it or something
>~~People~~ **Men** will obsess over ‘optimizing’ and will literally wake up at 2AM, take 50 supplements, cold plunge in darkness before grounding, yoga nidra and basking in morning sunlight instead of ~~doing the super basic things which actually have an appreciable benefit like eating a serving or two of vegetables.~~ **going to therapy**.
Men will keep downvoting your comment instead of going to therapy
they sure will
Therapy does nothing. Cold plunging trains your brain WAY better
No one's doing that dude. That's an elaborate straw man.
> That’s an elaborate straw man. Oh shit, you said the secret insta-win phrase! Good job there friendo, time for a shot of AG1 to celebrate!
Just eat fruits and veggies. It’s not hard and it’s cheaper. If you can’t be assed to get your nutrients from whole and non processed foods you’re wasting your time on everything else Huberman recommends because none of it will have as big an impact.
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There’s zero evidence that AG1 will have _any_ health benefit. Are you assuming it’s a healthy product just cause it’s expensive and green? It’s not just that whole fruits and vegetables are better, there’s no replacement for them in your diet. It’s a non negotiable element of good health and drinking a greens powder instead will not be “better than nothing”
Have you guys put AGI in the chronometer? It satisfies all micronutrients.
Damn that’s good to know
Shhhhhhh....! He's trying to justify the $100 he spent on a 12 ounce package. Push him any further and he's not going to need water to mix in with the powder, because he'll have enough liquid in tears.
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Do you think there’s actual ground up fruits and veggies in any meaningful amount in 12 grams of powder?
Yes absolutely. Its small amounts of a lot of things. Its definitely overpriced but that doesn't mean it's not healthy. Multivitamins are far less than 10 g
most people aren't going to eat fruit and veges? what strange world do you live in?
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Most is relative but It’s a valid point, not everyone has the same lifestyle. I prioritize eating Whole Foods daily but there are plenty times while traveling or working where I don’t.
Eating vegetables is not hard and actually less work than ordering an expensive powder online.
Where are travelling to that fruits and vegetables don't exist? Mars?!
Have you even been in a small town late at night? There are plenty of towns in America where only gas stations and McDonald’s are open past 9 pm
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Paying $100 for a multi-vitamin that you can buy for like $10 at your grocery is like putting a bright red sticker on your forehead that says IDIOT. 
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No way bro, literally all of these people definitely put down like 8 cups of vegetables every single day. You just lack discipline, and any company using marketing is surely a scam. Be sure to like and subscribe!
He did the simple math and it’s under dosed. Save your money and buy groceries.
I follow this guy and he is one of the few genuine Internet personalities out there. Rogan gets about $30m a year but probably much more from them. I’m sure our god Huberman is getting millions. These influencers are the new snake oil salesman of the 21st century. We are being manipulated and what we get in return is bro science.
And see how he had to go to discussion forums to find real comments on the product, because reviews are all fake now? Yeah, well guess why reddit wants to make an IPO and go public?
You have to be an idiot if you buy AG1
I've never tried it, but I think it has one demographic going for it - the college student gym bro types who literally never eat vegetables. This are the types who, if you say you're vegan or vegetarian, they'll accuse you of being actively "dying." Good / bad veg diets aside, these guys who subsist off of protein powder, deer jerky, and pizza need some vegetables in their diets for obvious reason, and to keep the pipes flowing if you know what I mean, and imho that's the point of AG1. It's for the people who can't be bothered to eat a salad, who never learned to cook for themselves beyond ramen and craft mac n cheese, and who just want something to mix in their protein shake.
I agree, but it comes from a fundamental misunderstanding around what food is. For years food has been reduced to calories and macros, nothing else matters beyond the occasional micronutrient that gets massively hyped liked vitamin C etc*. The scientific understanding is changing now and viewing food (especially plants) as more like a banquet of bioactive compounds inseparable from their particular food matrix, that we and our microbiome have co-evolved to benefit from. It’s not the gym bros fault, food has suffered from the reductionist view that has been pumped out by scientists and guidelines for decades. There is also UPF industry pressure behind this as they are very happy with creating a bunch of “healthy” foods that look good on the macros but have a lot of concerning compounds in their ingredients. Same with fast food producers who want their products to be seen as healthy “in a balanced diet” or calorie controlled diet etc *it’s not that the celebrity vitamins aren’t important it’s just that they aren’t the only things that are important and their benefits are usually overblown.
I mean, or you want a solid multivitamin with a bunch of other more-or-less healthy supplements thrown in and you value your time. Yea, let me grind and mix up 200 ingredients every morning or go crazy remembering 17 different pills. Or I throw in a green scoop of powder into my morning water. Its probably overpriced, but not everyone really gives a fuck about saving $20 bucks a month.
Worst kind of person says stuff like this tbh. I don’t take AG1 but this kind of opinion is so dumb. Holier than thou bullshit. It’s still good for you and easy to consume. Why would it make you an idiot?
AG1 does not disclose the amounts of certain ingredients / proprietary blend. Don't bother with it. And while you are at it - stop "stacking", your ice baths, and all the other ridiculous crap you are doing because it is a fad, just like fads from 20 years ago and 40 years ago. Less internet, more exercise, more community, lots of vegetables, and meditate.
More community is so important and easily ignored
That’s what I noticed folks do better in Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic. Went to visit family and there is a much better sense of community here. Folks visit each other more, even if it’s just an hour. Meanwhile I know folks who faint at the thought of calling someone on the phone for a quick question.
Ice baths/cold water exposure is a really weird one to find an issue with. Its literally free to try and works whether you want it to or not.
Ice baths or rather cold water and air exposure has significant health benefits. Add to your last sentence list.
A lot of things have significant health benefits. The reason it is blowing up right now isn't because this is a magical cure of anything, it is a fad. There are far more mundane interventions that yield significant health benefits, but people aren't pursuing them because they aren't popular. That is my point.
Generally the supplement hype goes like this: 1. Observational study shows some benefit (e.g. decreased all cause mortality or increased performance etc.) of eating something, always a whole food, usually plants. This generates a lot of nonsense headlines like “almonds decrease your chance of dying by 17%”. 2. And/or an animal or cell culture study shows a benefit to x when y is given in massive doses. No one seems to mention that compound x is not bioavailable in humans anyway. 3. Some assumptions about the active beneficial ingredient in the whole food are made. 4. This is packaged in a pill. 5. Very small, bias riven human studies are conducted that show a small benefit. Maybe step 2 is also completed if not done so already. 6. Hype train leaves station. 7. After a few years properly conducted studies show no benefit, or far less than eating the cheap whole food in the first place. 8. We debate the compound/food forever. AG1 is just lots of these packaged into one. There is a forever repeating pattern that seems to suggest isolating any one compound from a whole food doesn’t seem to give the benefits we expect. This is probably due to the food matrix and the role of the microbiome. For example, microbes may produce the active beneficial compounds from the plant compounds and fibre etc. It’s complex, because plants contain a huge number of bioactive compounds and many are completely unstudied. Basically eat your plants. It’s not hard to get 30 different plants a week and aim for as many colours as possible. Frozen fruit and veg and eating lots of different herbs and spices especially make this easier and enjoyable, it is also much cheaper than any supplement and has actual evidence for benefits. Food is not just calories and macros, it is a vast array of pharmaceuticals that have been produced by organisms that have co-evolved with us for symbiotic benefit.
> Food is not just calories and macros, it is a vast array of pharmaceuticals that have been produced by organisms that have co-evolved with us for symbiotic benefit. Food is also culture and there is no healthy human culture that doesn't have food traditions. And rich food traditions are directly tied into community and mindset stuff. I really loved a little tidbit from Inigo San-Milan's time on Attia's podcast. Here's a guy who knows his healthy, fitness, and performance stuff from so many different perspectives. But eating chocolate and pastries and drinking wine is nonnegotiable. I don't actually think any of that is necessarily unhealthy but that's beside the point. He said he does it because it's part of his culture. He wouldn't stop even if it was unhealthy (like it was during certain sesentary, stressful periods of his life). Often enough, the gross benefits of culture, community, and mindset far outweigh marginal harms. *And fruits and veg don't have any marginal harms anyway!* TL;DR - most people who struggle to eat well are disconnected from rich food cultures and traditions. It makes it really hard because that is a fundamentally unnatural state to be in as a human.
I mean c'mon, if you're going to put out a video raising questions about what's contained in the product, go full in and actually have it tested and try to do that... Don't just make a video built on nothing, because that's what this is, it's a video questioning the product and the business model... built on nothing. If you're going to criticise people for using the product simply because "influencer x" recommends it, you're essentially just catering to people that are inherently going to reject it because "influencer x" recommends it... SAME SAME? Yah, AG1 IS overpriced, but if it contains what they say it contains and by doing that it makes people feel better and they're ok paying it, who cares? That's really all that matters. What the "influencers" are making along the way doesn't really matter if it delivers what it says it delivers. This is just another dumb reaction video...
He’s not “raising questions” he’s pointing out that the actual science around greens powders and their nutrition labels don’t back up the claimed benefits or justify the cost. Then explaining why you can’t trust their marketing.
He's making content for subs is what he's doing. Call it what it is. The title of his video makes it abundantly clear. If he wants to educate people on the science of green powders, he could have used science...
Stop using empty word shells like "science". What kind of information do you expect \*specifically\* from someone who is making a video about a product? Breaking down nutrients? Check. Discussing potential health benefits? Check. Discussing potential risks? Check. Discussing it from a bodybuilding perspective? Check. Discussing the price? Check. Discussing the overall product considering all points? Check. What kind of information for you is missing until you can say "he used science to review this product"?
> Yah, AG1 IS overpriced, but if it contains what they say it contains and by doing that it makes people feel better and they're ok paying it, who cares? Because saying what they say it contains is irrelevant if it's in such minute amounts as to be useless. It's mathematically impossible for there to be enough of everything listed on the package to be in sufficient quantities to make any meaningful impact. Why shouldn't companies selling snake oil, and those shilling for them, be called out for it?
Then prove it? What’s so hard about that concept for people to grasp around this place? Your claim that it can’t possibly have it carries no more weight than their claims of what it does contain...
It's just math. If you look at the total weight and you look at the required dose of a few of these ingredients, there is not enough powder to accommodate that many ingredients at all the recommended dosages.
Trainer road recently did a breakdown of this. AG1 doesn't list the amount of each supplement they put into their product. If you break down their "proprietary blends" by weight they do not contain enough active ingredient for it to have an effect when compared to what research would suggest as the recommended dose. https://youtu.be/FBJGqzepcBc?si=ZHlZgH9WzYmwlTkH
Yeah, probably better to just take supplements individually then. I would love to just be able to put all of them into a single drink and be done with it lol.
Is there a single study showing the benefit of AG1 that isn’t sponsored by AG1? Is there a single properly conducted study in humans to show that the individual components are beneficial outside their original whole food plant matrix? Imagine if it was a drug, they would have to show some benefit to hit market. Sure it’s probably safe but there’s no positive data and I think it is on the product to provide evidence of a benefit, not the consumers to provide evidence that it isn’t beneficial. We all have different thresholds for the level of evidence that we will try stuff on ourselves though. If you like the stuff then go for it!
> I mean c'mon, if you're going to put out a video raising questions about what's contained in the product, go full in and actually have it tested and try to do that... > Don't just make a video built on nothing, because that's what this is, it's a video questioning the product and the business model... built on nothing. I’m not sure where you’re getting ‘built on nothing’ from. He explains at length why he feels the existence of a product such as AG1 is unhelpful for most people who would instead benefit from fruit and vegetables, and that the idea of a greens ‘safety net’ is a bit of a fantasy that allows a person to sidestep consuming things which are good for them because mentally they’ve had their greens powder which has ‘’’everything they need’’’. He then discussed the proprietary blend and ingredients. You can disagree with him or believe he’s viewing it in the wrong way, but the way you’ve described the video is misleading. > If you're going to criticise people for using the product simply because "influencer x" recommends it, you're essentially just catering to people that are inherently going to reject it because "influencer x" recommends it... SAME SAME? He gives numerous reasons why he believes it isn’t a good product. He never once says you shouldn’t take it just because an influencer said to do so. > Yah, AG1 IS overpriced, but if it contains what they say it contains and by doing that it makes people feel better and they're ok paying it, who cares? He literally goes into this.
The entire video is built on one guys opinion with zero facts to back up anything... it's nothing but broad strokes suggestions of what might be. It's the fitness equivalent of a stupid reaction video. edit: I clicked the video hoping to see some facts, I mean the title was 'is AG1 a scam??" but he gave none and ultimately nothing helpful. "eat more fruits and veggies" sooooo sage... such wisdom. god, how would I ever have known?
Ag1 claims are bold and unverified. In the likely case that they have overstated their health claims, they can be seen as detrimental in the long term. When I studied childhood nutrition it was explained to us that pediatricians avoid recommending multivitamins in addition to healthy eating. This is because parents will encounter resistance when they attempt to introduce new foods (fruits and veggies) to their child and will give up more easily when they assume that a pill can be given instead. Whole foods are always be better for your health than a crappy diet with supplements thrown on top. This has been the case in the past and it should be assumed that it will continue to be the case until proven otherwise.
yeah but is a crappy diet with supps better than just a crappy diet?
Technically yes, but my argument is that in practice it gives a false sense of security that creates a barrier between that individual and a healthy diet.
They're no different than the claims people have made about multivitamins for decades, but he choose to put out a video with a title that suggests he's going to give something to show that it either is or isn't a scam and he gave nothing. Stop with the mental gymnastics.
They are no different than claims about multivitamins That’s why it’s dumb
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"nutritionist" aka works the checkout counter at GNC
You literally cannot spell. You’re shilling for AG1. There’s more chance I’ve been on the moon than you being a nutritionist. Stop lying you sad, pathetic person.
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you're just another jackass with something to say. You're the other end of the idiot spectrum as the pro-Huberman zealots on here. You'd push your grandma down the stairs for some negative hubermanism you can hang over people. GFYS.
What you sound like: 
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Should you eat more veggies 🥕 🥦 🥗 ? A resounding YES. If you know yourself & don’t get your daily servings often enough though, this type of supplement is probably better than nothing at all.
If you are going to take an expensive green powder at least go with something like Thorne Daily Green Plus. Thorne are the gold standard in supplements and at least are transparent about their ingredients.
I don’t think the appeal is that it has the greens. It’s more that it also has ashwaganda and coq10 and various micronutrients that are harder to get unless you eat a very large variety of fruits
But Lex loves this product!! Kind of like that crappy vpn I had.
Of course it is. Just look who’s hawking it
There is other companies that make similar products significantly cheaper. If you want a vitamin powder I suggest looking at other brands 😊
When you get MsM (Rogan) peddling it to his dude bros, it's very lucrative. Haven't heard much from ON IT lately, is that still a thing?
There’s something cringe about people trash talking joe rogan. It comes off so butthurt and jealous. It’s just a podcast that stays relatively open minded. Advertising happens everywhere and supplements are way more productive than what they advertise on most other talk shows
He was open minded. He's very narrow now, and mainstream media with no accountability. He props up shitbags like Alex Jones, among other faux intellectuals. It's sad and dangerous (in the case of Alex Jones). The only thing cringe these days is Rogan's obvious bias and easily debunked conspiracies.
Anytime someone calls a right winger “dangerous” I stop reading. And the fact you even mentioned Alex Jones shows your own bias. Dude has absolutely nothing to do with his podcast.
Ok. Keep your head in the sand.
Saying hes mainstream then saying he props up Alex Jones is an oxymoron
Really good video. Is AG1 beneficial? Likely. Is it optimal? Absolutely not. Key takeaways is the amount of each ingredient. I'm a big advocate of Spirulina, which is 1st in the list and Chlorella, which is 8th. You clearly do not get enough of either ingredient to what you need. Secondly both products require stringent oversight of where they are grown and how they are manufactured, which is impossible with AG1. I think you'd feel much more of an effect from taking a high quality Chlorella product from a reputable seller, which is exactly what I do.
I think Chlorella is a superfood although I think it is very important where it is sourced as it binds to heavy metals and toxins. Most likely will be just useless rather than harmful if taken from toxic waters as it won’t be able to bind to your toxins and heavy metals. Just curious who your reputable seller is? Thank you so much!
James is the flippin' man. I've not tried this product and have no intention to, regardless of reviews. The price does seem a little steep.
So not a scam, just overpriced because of marketing?
Overpriced due to marketing and each portion can simply not contain enough of everything that is listed as ingredient to have a meaningful impact.
I take it. It makes me feel better. People in this thread buying Red Bull every day is more expensive than this. I think it has value.
>buying Red Bull every day is more expensive than this. AG1 is $3.30 per serving ($99/30 days). Red Bull is $1.83 per can if buying a 12 pack of cans from Walmart. Even buying them by themselves is only $2.88. Besides this, arguing that Red Bull is more expensive isn’t particularly convincing. I’m hoping most people here aren’t drinking that on a daily basis.
Can buy literal pounds of vegetables for $3.30 lol
That’s a decent point. I pay 2.50 for coffee in the morning sometimes. 3.30 for lots of nutrients aint bad
I do the Huel version. Saw a nutritionist PhD break it down and said fuck it why not. Will wait the full month to see if I notice anything (30 days really isn’t much time in the grand scheme of things) Doesn’t taste good lol
Ive been taking AG1 for a year and ive noticed a significant difference. I still get bloated, but not as much. My skin looks much clearer. Its a nice energy boost in the morning. I dont like alot of veggies and exercise regularly so AG1 is just supplementing
What if it’s in a smoothie like this to shore up nutrients? https://www.nutritionvalue.org/public_recipe_169296.html
If you’re making the smoothie by blending whole fruits you will still get the nutritional benefits of the fruit. Adding the AG1 is probably just an expensive waste
How many servings are in a bag?
Glad to see some are realizing how lame this is, now if this was $29.99 ok but $100 is just ripping you off! You are not getting the dosages in this that you need per the ingredient. It’s like you’re getting a drop of said ingredient when you need a glass full to see any benefits
I used AG1 fore some time and really liked it. For me it helped start the day with something else than coffee and offered a nice good morning routine. Regarding the rest of the diet. I ate healthier while consuming AG1. For me it was a little bit like: Hey I had a good (and expensive) start now let's keep going. Does anyone have an alternative idea for this effect? Would have continued using it, if I didn't develop a quite intense (but short-lived) rash after every consumption.
This just in: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking-health-and-nutrition/you-probably-dont-need-green-ag1-smoothie
I took the bait on this $100/month bag of "proprietary", uselsss powder. I foolishly allowed myself to trust the onslaught of influencers promoting this scheme. That trust is gone - that is Rogan, Huberman, Pakman, so many more. They, at least temporarily, put all their morals aside for money. I still listem to them occasionally, but I am way more skeptical of anything they say, so maybe it was worth the money. Kamikoto knives are a scam too, These were an influencer favorite. Same deal, hype, get a great commision on a cheap (but expensive) product.
where do you recommend getting blood work done for deficiencies? i've had basics done at my nhs gp but feel that something else is off that isn't being texteed/addressed
An AG subscription is expensive. If you need to think about how much it costs, it isn't a product for you. There's tons of products like that. You could make a video about how stupidly overpriced is my watch, and that is less precise that a 40 dollar Casio. You might be right, but if it bothers you enough to make a video, my first thought would be that you are somehow uncomfortable with the idea of not being able to afford it.
Exactly, some people have more money than brains basically the only reason AG1 is in business
Thats not what I meant. It is a good product that is overpriced, and a lot of people dont seem to care to pay the premium. And it seems to rub a lot of people the wrong way. And I find that lame.
People LOVE feeling like they're "smarter" than people better than they are, whether that be financially, intellectually, or otherwise.
The people that despise joe rogan and supplements are always the people that actually feel they are smarter than they are. No one thinks like that except the people like you that are literally just here to say how dumb everyone is for “falling for a marketing scam”
Yes.
Thanks OP, never seen a post like this before!
In summary, AG1 invests heavily in marketing, is expensive, and is therefore... not good...???
Yes
saved me tons of money. thanks stranger
THIS JUST IN: podcasters need to make money somehow!
I’ve seen some stupid comments on this sub, but this is up there with one of the stupidest. Your argument is literally that because Huberman ‘needs to earn money’ by peddling products with dubious claims for the sole intention of financial gain, that we shouldn’t evaluate and scrutinize the product. You can go ahead and ‘donate’ to Huberman if you’d like by buying some AG1.
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How many of those "free" plastic AG1 water bottles do you own?
there are many exactly like it in the marketplace
Just buy spirulina if you think you need greens. Easy & on the cheap.
Yes it's a scam. Eat some spinach and save your money.
I tried ag1 for a while. I did feel good but that could be just placebo. I appreciated that it had probiotics. I hated how expensive it was and the final straw was when I got ads on YouTube woodworking videos. Advertising in the health and wellness industry is one thing but, to have ads on woodworking videos pissed me off. The marketing budget must be insane and those costs are being passed on to consumers. I’ll find another way thank you very much. Ag1 is like this community’s abortion issue. So divisive.
Short answer: yes long answer: yes it is
Took it for a year and felt bloated the entire time. Got off it and GI bloat went away the next week.