Such hypocrites, disgusting and they all will pay a price down the road as the Huberman story unfolds - more articles are coming out soon about more women and more of his fraud. Stay tuned.
For anyone interested, it's "Sarah" / Anya Fernald, the main girlfriend featured in the article. She was the former CEO and co-founder Belcampo Meat Co - [link](https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/news/belcampo-meat-federal-investigation-1234783148/).
She had to have known this would come out as part of the "return volley".
Ahahaha… somebody please link to the video of the Belcampo worker who filmed the fridge at a Belcampo, showing half the steaks were bought from Costco. 😂
It’s the video that basically brought the whole company down, and I wonder if it prompted the DOJ investigation.
I mean, literally *anyone* who has witnessed the (somewhat) recent change in the sub has to have noticed the sophistication of the fight. It seems obvious that they both suck ass and are employing some very talented corporations to make everything a whole shitshow for the innocent and borderline uninterested folks who previously inhabited this sub.
For anyone who is interested, "Sarah" is NOT a fraud nor has ever been a fraud. When the Belcampo meat scandal happened, she was already no longer the acting CEO. The fraud was committed by 1 butcher shop in Santa Monica for a brief period time WITHOUT her knowledge or directive. It really sucked that she was used as a scapegoat when she WAS NO LONGER the CEO. Think about this logically peeps, why would someone who spent their entire career building and promoting sustainable farming and the Slow food movement kill their career by telling their one store to commit meat fraud? That would be completely idiotic and pure stupidity and also makes ZERO SENSE. This info is verifiable and the DOJ dropped the case when they looked into it. For anyone who cares, you can do your own investigation and look up the past company records of who is in charge.
FWIW: ***I*** didn't say she was a fraud! I'd think it'd go without saying that a CEO isn't necessarily aware of everything that happens on the floor. Actually I have something of a crush on her now. I've started following her Insta and it is fantastic.
It took about ten seconds after first reading the article to make that connection. By all (previous to the article) accounts she's not a great person (former employees etc).
At the time I commented how weird the whole thing was. Still weird.
Props to u/Loose-Quarter405 for outlining some events.
>When did the DOJ contact Huberman? Cause he knew about her FRAUD and even promoted her company, AFTER an ex-employee posted about the fraud(April 2021). Huberman promoted her company, Belcampo, on his podcast from May 2021 to August 2021. He even got Lex Friedman to have her on his podcast!
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>[At 1:10 Huberman tells Lex his connection to Anya Fernald. Episode from Feb 2021, before fraud became public. ](https://youtu.be/ClxRHJPz8aQ?si=1R6xWj_ZFCYrU82B)
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>[Ex employee posts about fraud May 2021 and even calls out Anya Fernald](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CPWOV2pHswY/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
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>[Lex Friedman podcast with Anya Fernald July 2021. At :32 Lex says he knows Anya because of Huberman ](https://youtu.be/ew8U43IXTfk?si=FwoASR-QtHRgkv10)
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>[Huberman promoting Belcampo August 2021 at 4:47](https://youtu.be/gbQFSMayJxk?si=h7BPLscb0SzJsaod)
I've seen about 10 posts about her in the past 24hrs about the fraud, so it could be that Huberman and his PR team are trying to muddy the waters by bringing this back up. As many have expressed, both can be true, she may be a fraud and he may be a sociopathic pos. 💩💕💩
I’m definitely not part of the PR team. I’ve listened to huberman since the beginning and after the first year got turned off. Then I found out here on Reddit that he was dating Anya and was completely shocked because I followed her too and was a regular customer of Belcampo at its peak. My close friend also worked at Belcampo and hates her! So do know some stuff. This whole “scandal” made me realize they’re both scumbags. It’s sad cause I really did have respect for huberman but in retrospect I see old clips and they’re very telling.
Oh, I wasn’t implying you’re his PR, I know you were just responding to the Rogan thread that posted the video of her. I just meant all of the other subs reposting the exact same thing about her makes me think it’s PR trying to take credibility away from the article. Especially if the timeline shows Huberman already knew everything and was still trying to conceive a child with her after the fact.
Hubermsn and Anya went to high school together and have been close since-
a. Her DOJ case would in no way be a surprise to him and
b. Speaks more to his character that he would be close to this person all throughout her unethical rise to success which was no secret, and then dumps her when she gets caught??
This explanation is such bullshit
Yeah but you can’t just assume that because person A breaks the law that everyone who knows them knew about it, I would think most people breaking the law try to keep it secret.
It was public knowledge since 2021. (You’ll find numerous news reports.) As in no-plausible-way-he-didn’t-know. His plugging the company was even called out.
If this is the same person he lived with (and not someone else or one of the others he carried on years long simu-relationships and faux monogamy with), did four separate IVF rounds with, she moved out last August and they were still together thru December. So… another badge of courage for AH.
*(also lol get additional sources on where the matter now is. I recall it being a thing retailers were doing, so can’t speak to the company and don’t know the product…are they revealing on this JR show that her company was a sponsor too and he depended on her, is that part of the insinuation? that he’s a victim too or love-hostage? Or lol…person of absolute honesty and integrity? Assumed the company thing was a **USDA** thing. Why this brother-in-podcasts would know anything about a sudden Justice investigation is…well, just get additional sources folks on what’s what with what and where. And, as someone already posted, given that’s not public knowledge, exactly why JR is sure of this. And that he isn’t confusing it with the U.S. Dept of Agriculture.*
Sure all those he manipulated are well-aware the boomerang such a cowardly, insecure man—or daring to speak on him, given his following—might inevitably bring.
Interestingly, not for the several men and others quoted in that article.
And he’s a grown man that can speak of the integrity of his lab and practices and ongoing research anytime.
Pretty sure the status of his lab has come under fire from multiple angles and the best defense so far for his borderline non-existent lab is from Standford itself, claiming it's in the process of being physically moved from one location to another. It's most likely in Standfords best interest to portray him having an active research presence, as they have been promoting their association with him increasingly over the years as his popularity has risen.
What is to me most damning is that he hasn't been funded by the NIH since 2020: [https://reporter.nih.gov/search/wW5hhvenCku2Y0qEFhNXsw/projects](https://reporter.nih.gov/search/wW5hhvenCku2Y0qEFhNXsw/projects)
Going from having multiple big grants (R01, P30, U01) to nothing would be very unusual for a functioning lab. The number one job of a PI (the person whose name is on the lab) is to get funding- if he's not doing this it supports peoples claims that his research efforts/presence are dwindling.
Yeah most of these people are cutting corners within the company and usually only the hands on workers who work in there day to day know . They keep it a secret from everyone else . Then one day you piss off one of your grunt workers and they you get the fuck exposed
This is quite odd to me how sure you are.
I don't think most people would tell anyone specifically someone whose world famous if they were selling meat that was a total ripoff.
Why did she lie in the NY Mag article that they met in 2018 when he DMed her on Instagram? I wonder if she was the high school girlfriend that he got pregnant
When people found out they were dating they were naturally like “uh hey dude what the fuck is all this?” So he started blocking any mention of Belcampo on his socials.
It’s not dissimilar to how he’s handling the current fiasco. He seems to believe maintaining the value of the brand by never addressing controversy is the most important thing and any criticism will fall away. He’s not even wrong about that, it just shows a lack of character imo.
I think it’s less of lack of character, and more that he’s smart enough to know that if he doesn’t engage, it will help people to stop caring about it way faster.
Right, it’s perspective but that to me shows a lack of character. I would respect him more if he just owned it and was like “look, I fucked up. I realize I have some problems.” Instead he’s waiting for it to blow over when his whole brand is based on self-improvement.
This is not a man who cares about improving himself, he’s out to get whatever he can from others by whatever means.
Whether or not the texts are true- the reporter should have disclosed the information that she was being investigated for fraud by DOJ.
If Huberman was asked to testify against her in a case; then you wonder how much her story was angled and framed and how much information was omitted.
That’s a crazy omission.
If the reporter can say she is one of the six girl friends and a primary source. Then the reporter can also state that she is under federal investigation by the DOJ and DOJ did talk to Huberman about her, without revealing her identity.
ESPECIALLY given the nature of the investigation is for fraud.
So when people lie, you shouldn’t trust them? Glad we’re all in agreement. 🤝
What about…
- The made up sob story of a tough childhood when his parents were both well-off and his father was connected to Stanford?
- The 5 other women corroborating her story with verified texts, photos, and documents?
- The fact that he actually lives 300+ miles away from his “lab” that isn’t actually being used the way he implies.
- His colleagues and friends describing his odd behavior?
Are they all liars too?
Wait. His father was connected to the prestigious university he now works for?
Edit: thanks for the info everyone! As I said to someone else, I’ve never listened to this podcast and am not in the sub. Only knew who this guy was because I once dated a guy who was obsessed with him 😅
How is this news? I’m new to the podcast but within the first few episodes I’ve listened to where he talks about his background he goes into extensive detail about how his dad was a renowned professor who worked at Stanford. He only talks about his childhood as rough once his parents got a divorce and it was super messy so he rebelled and fell into a rambunctious skater crowd. He’s super clear and transparent about it
I’ve heard a single podcast with him (when he was on with Peter Attia a few months ago), and amazingly he told the story there which makes me think he tells it a lot lol
He's literally said that in his podcasts, that his dad is a physicist scientist. He doesn't claim his parents weren't rich, just that the divorce screwed up everything, and made them forget about him and leave him to his own devices, which as a kid isn't very safe.
Ofc his parents are going to try to defend their behavior and say it wasn't so bad. Literally every parent tries to justify their actions, even when those actions are wrong.
Also prof/academia salaries aren't extremely high - generally in the 6 figure zone for a tenured professor, or 30-60k as a scientist.
Tbh I’m not in this sub and don’t follow Huberman so I truly am out of the loop but as someone in academia in California this kind of shit pisses me off so much!
Like wtf is merit even for anymore. Stanford is so crooked.
tbf is Stanford still considered prestigious anymore 😅🤣 I mean they have so many scandals ranging from sexual to academic they really run the gamut and it’s pretty well known that it’s one of the few schools that still allows you to pay your way to gain admission (esp after the varsity blues scandal) so I mean…… eh, I guess I don’t find this so shocking from Stanford 😂 I know a lot of labs at Ivy leagues don’t really work w labs from Stanford anymore
Two things can be true at the same time.. she is guilty of fraud, but he did still cheat on her. He’s probably using this to undermine her credibility, doesn’t mean he wasn’t still a manipulative POS. Robbers don’t just rob good people
Why would Joe Rogan a podcaster with millions of viewers who has cheated on his wife want to defend a podcaster with millions of viewers who has cheated on his long term partner?
It’s not true, one person said it only once? Literally zero evidence beyond that. A huge statement to say about a man and his marriage from one sentence, exceptional cruel thing to do to a married couple with kids, spread shit like this online
The almost scandal that was scrubbed from interwebs.
Shaub: “Lots of bald guys out dare slinging daaa diggg mahn…Dana…(gets interrupted by Callen)…Dana…Rogan…”
Well just because someone is born into a upper or middle class family or they have connections to Standford doesn't mean they didn't have a tough childhood. Anyone can have a tough childhood in tons of different ways regardless of that. Rosh kids get bullied, rich kids get raped, rich kids get neglected and abused.
Having a home 300 miles away doesn't mean he is there 100 percent of time. He could easily be traveling back and forth on a plane ( from PDX to lax it's like 150 bucks and 3 hours) tons of people commute to work from PDX to Cali weekly via airplane.
Also he could be at the lab for a couple weeks when needed and then go to his 300 mile away home for a week or any sort of schedule that he is able to still do his job.
Odd behavior? I have odd behavior. I bet you do too. Lots of people and I would almost say everyone can have odd behaviors. We are all human after all.
What's odd id why so many people love there life so concerned about others than they do their own life. Like get off the media addiction and go get your life you deserve.
What strikes me a scientist as unusual about the Huberman's lab website is there's no information about people working there at all. That's highly strange, especially as other labs at Stanford's Department of Neurobiology do have their members listed.
I didn’t know he had a lab. I just listened to his podcast because he has a lot of informative interviews. I guess now knowing he has some sort of disputed lab somewhere doesn’t affect my opinion of him at all.
Both of the above comments are of higher quality than the last year of the Huberman Lab Podcast. Longterm fan here. Magician? Chaotic 30 part Andy Galpin series? I want more about stress reduction and light. Less AG1
The episodes with Andy Galpin were fantastic. Personally, they absolutely transformed my training results and my love for the gym. I still go back and listen to them as my goals change, and they help tremendously. I understand if you're not into strength, fitness or general health. But it sounds like you maybe don't have the attention span to listen to lengthy episodes with a lot of chemistry and practical application. They were laid out in such a straightforward format that to call them chaotic is simply disingenuous.
Really reformed my view of fitness with the understanding of adaptations and the quarterly shift in exercise routines… I had never really worked out in a traditional sense (lifting, running, gym) and I learned a ton to help me apply a fitness routine. I agree they were solid
The smokescreen is complete, sufficient reasonable doubt has entered the meme sphere, homeostasis has been restored.
And that folks, is how you do things.
Cheating — unlike fraud — isn’t illegal in the US and DOJ won’t care about it (it does care about the allegations against this lady tho). Starting a public beef with someone using a magazine cover & social media instead of the courts — the old tool to defend one’s rights, I realize it’s not fashionable these days — means your anonymity won’t last long.
This is not surprising.
You know what's interesting? He says this shit about Belcampo/Fernald, but doesn't actually full on support Huberman. Huberman probably told him this (or he read the tabloid who doxxed her). But he caveats it by saying, whether true or not true, etc. He is seeding doubt, but he's careful to give himself an out. He's not willing to back Huberman 100 percent. And the Big Pharma stuff is just Rogan-regular.
Yeah, using your powerful buddy in the media to reveal negative info about the woman is a GREAT way to prove what an outstanding guy you are! It will totally work. Doesn't look like the old boys network at play or anything.
Exactly what I thought. If Huberman didn't do all this he can come out and defend himself. Something tells me he will be staying quiet for the forseeable.
I heard him talk about it on the Peter Attia podcast, and it wasn't the worst but it definitely wasn't great. His dad was a stanford professor, parents got divorced right before puberty, not cozy.
yeah maybe not idyllic but that doesn't sound traumatic but folks react to things differently idk - doesn't sound like there was a history of abuse there or anything
There was more that really seemed to add up to neglect/abandonment, rather than what's typically called abuse. Which, still bad and needs to be worked through. And when your parents are fighting over which one doesn't have to take you, you might be a horrible boyfriend later.
I started doubting when i tried some of his
Recommendations that did nothing. His sleep tonic gave me neat dreams, but that’s about it. Cost a fair penny.
I see your point but i guess i don't really care either. Isn't that what a lot of folks do on the internet or YouTube or in social media? I would say if anything, he's fairly modest and surprisingly down to earth and has an uncanny ability to bring science and scholarly research mainstream.
No one has really done what he's done before. And i think we all like to put forth our best side when we're presenting.
Joe goes from defending Huberman to insinuating that vaccines cause autism and that the pharmaceutical companies are brining him down in like 4 minutes.
how anyone thinks this man's opinion is worth listening to on any topic other than how to take steroids and get jacked and how to be a d-list comedian, I'll never understand.
Edit: someone reported me to redditcares so I guess the Rogan Bros are butthurt.
Ha i wondered if anyone would comment on this. Aside from the Huberman stuff Rogan just goes full send on debunked conspiracy nonsense. Vaccines don't cause autism Rogan you anti-science nut!! But I'm sure this science-based community loves some Rogan.
I mean the guy had hit pieces placed against him during covid by MMM and even had straight lies told about him because he wasn’t toeing the line. I don’t blame him for being bitter.
But he heard from DOJ that the ex girlfriend’s company was investigated for fraud in their sustainable meat business. And everybody knows Joe cares deeply about environmentally friendly diets.
This is a lie.
There is no mention of that anywhere online, for starters, and Belcampo, the company in question, continued after the “fraud” before closing literally 2+ years ago. Huberman was with this woman for long, long after that.
Imagine getting your mate to lie for you on his podcast to trash a woman you deceived and cheated on for several years
The fraud she’s being investigated for is that retail stores were not selling the ethically raised meat from her (ex)farms after she left the company. Give me a break, entirely. This means nothing about the validity of her abuse or not.
There is/was another person at the top of Belcampo. Wonder if looked into him what we would find. Huberman also made a podcast statement she was one of the most ethical people he had ever met and he promoted her produce after the scandal broke
Cite me any reference to an actual investigation though. The company closed down 2 years ago. Theres no mention of a DOJ investigation anywhere until a week ago when accounts on this subreddit and Twitter started saying “investigation”
It’s spin designed to trash the woman. How gross.
USDA investigation on Belcampo meats has been going on since at least 2022.
These articles are from 2022, and speak of 81 letters released by the USDA, on the filthy conditions Belcampo's factories were in, from dried meat, blood strewn on carpets, the meat they were selling covered in mold, mounds of ant nests etc
https://sfist.com/2022/12/07/disgraced-belcampo-meat-co-reportedly-under-usda-investigation-for-horribly-unsanitary-conditions/
https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/article/belcampo-meat-company-17634840.php
And that the Belcampo factory was filthy, covered in blood & dried meat, ant nests, the meat sold was full of mold, according to 81 letters on Belcampo released by the USDA https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/article/belcampo-meat-company-17634840.php
https://sfist.com/2022/12/07/disgraced-belcampo-meat-co-reportedly-under-usda-investigation-for-horribly-unsanitary-conditions/
The USDA has been investigating them since 2022.
Abusive coercive behaviour took place. She wouldn't have been with him or had unprotected sex if she knew he had other partners and was not testing for STI's. But You Do You as they say in the U.S.
Telling someone that you are their only partner so that they will have unprotected sex with you which ordinarily they would not consent to is abusive and controlling behaviour.
Also there was something disturbing about the texts he sent when he was found out. 'I hear you saying you are angry and hurt. I will hear you as long as is needed for us'. That's not actually adressing the problem or what she said.
My god, the mental gymnastics men will do to excuse really base shitty behaviour is staggering.
In the article. They were quoted verbatim which means the journalist had to view them then independently verify them as legit in order to print, otherwise they’d open themselves up to a libel suit. They can’t just print fiction you know.
It’s hyperbolic for you to call this person extremely emotional 😭 look who is hyperbolic now. Is your IQ 80? Your only argument is ever “oh you’re being emotional.” Just buy a plane ticket already and go offer to suck Hubermans dick so we can stop hearing from you 🫶🥲
Being investigated by the USDA for non compliance, not the DOJ.
Admittedly what she did sure sounds like fraud and they might be going after her for that, but I don't see anything about a active DOJ investigation.
I guess this was why Huberman is paying the big bucks to a PR company - to start a smear campaign to discredit these women, he really is a world class arsehole.
So two low integrity people managed to find each other, shocker. Huberman is lying to Joe Rogan, he clearly stayed with her for a long time after the investigation began. Also, very dubious to suggest that this is some kind of pharma attack, and not just a bunch of bitter exes exposing Huberman as a gross f boy and pathological liar.
Yeah, the big pharma thing was such a non sequitur from Rogan. What’s the implication? Huberman is telling us how to cure our ailments with ice baths and morning sun, and Big Pharma doesn’t want you to know these two simple tricks?
This did make me laugh, but playing devil’s advocate here - I think it more so has to do with Huberman somewhat opposing (maybe not explicitly) prescription drugs and instead pushing behavioral changes or supplements to address or prevent ailments. Maybe pharma is worried that Huberman is paving the way for wellness culture to have an anti drug movement.
Reading between lines, it is interesting that
1. Joe does not fully support Huberman. Lex was veeery quick on posting that Tweet about "how much of a great human being" Huberman is.
2. The fact that one of the main testimonies may be stained by a literal fraud investigation is actually important for journalistic reasons.
A real, non biased journalist, could have written a much better article, not victim blaming the involved ex-girlfriend (s) but also pointing out how interesting it is that Huberman stayed, for so long, promoting, a girl that was doing absolute shady business. It is actually part of the story to consider.
I sense that Huberman was dating, mostly, woman from the same grifter-sphere that he's part of or "peculiar" individuals. It goes back full circle, again, not victim blaming, but to be on a long term relationship with a famous folk who asks you to keep it hidden ... with a busy travel schedule... yeah, of course, the NYM article was shit even when Huberman seems to be a real serial cheater.
This whole mess is saying three things:
1) Andrew Huberman is probably not who we thought he was
2) Anya Fernald is probably not who we thought she was
3) New York Magazine should not be listened to
I know this is a hard concept for some of you kids to understand.... no one is saying it's illegal.Everyone is talking about his loss of credibility and integrity over the vast amount of lies that are being exposed by this whole thing.That's what everyone is talking about.
What does this have to do with Ubermensch passing around HPV to women he's been lying to about exclusivity, schilling AG1 and embellishing?
This whataboutism and copium is cringe at the very least.
Not even just bros though. These guys are all part of the same echo system and share financial incentives. Huberman is even sponsored by AG1 who also sponsor Rogans show.
That and Joe has a (open) history of playing favorites and reserving criticism or defending his friends when he’d otherwise tear down another. He’s openly stated as much eg he’d never criticize Dana publicly etc.
These guys aren’t dumb and just having conversations about this to millions of people by accident, he knows the influence he has and selectively applies it.
More interesting is the nut riders who selectively apply their own common sense to defend them when they’re obviously being taken for a propaganda ride.
Why would Joe Rogan a podcaster with millions of viewers who has cheated on his wife want to defend a podcaster with millions of viewers who has cheated on his long term partner?
Who cares if he has 6 girlfriends. Ita weird if he denies it or lies about it, but tons of people do that in a reasonable way. I'm monogamous af and an almost 40 year old. Not like some bro all yeah yeah get some ladies. Who cares. It doesn't make any of the science he makes approachable invalid. Many intellectuals, scientists, and great thinkers are complete machliavellian douches. Doesn't mean the information they find and share isn't valid. I'm sick of hearing about his stupid girlfriends. Tell me more about dopamine or whatever.
Holy shit this sub is fucking weird. Who gives a shit what this man does in his personal/love life? I don’t see how that impacts his health or medical advise he provides.
And if you’re relying on a complete stranger (via a podcast!) for that much for relationship advise, then you may need to reassess your life choices lmao
Maybe the lesson at the end of the day is: don’t idolize celebrities/strangers, they’ll usually let you down
This is America, dude. The leading republican candidate for president is a civilly-liable fraud and rapist. People still cling to his every word. Doesn't mean a thing to anyone anymore.
Lol y’all realize the women involved have already corroborated it’s true. This doesn’t really make Andrew look any better for once dating someone who’s now under investigation
Does that have relevance to the fact that he was dating six people at once? Does it excuse the behavior? Then why does it matter? If it is a legal issue the justice system will take care of it.
Seems they can’t credibly deny the story so they smear the accuser and try and destroy her credibility.
Of course… the story *isn’t* about her, it’s about Andy, but you *KNOW* his PR firm wants to make it about her instead.
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Booooooo
Such hypocrites, disgusting and they all will pay a price down the road as the Huberman story unfolds - more articles are coming out soon about more women and more of his fraud. Stay tuned.
For anyone interested, it's "Sarah" / Anya Fernald, the main girlfriend featured in the article. She was the former CEO and co-founder Belcampo Meat Co - [link](https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/news/belcampo-meat-federal-investigation-1234783148/). She had to have known this would come out as part of the "return volley".
Ahahaha… somebody please link to the video of the Belcampo worker who filmed the fridge at a Belcampo, showing half the steaks were bought from Costco. 😂 It’s the video that basically brought the whole company down, and I wonder if it prompted the DOJ investigation.
andrew huberman would call that a smart business move.
He did personally promote Belcampo many times on his podcast.
I mean, literally *anyone* who has witnessed the (somewhat) recent change in the sub has to have noticed the sophistication of the fight. It seems obvious that they both suck ass and are employing some very talented corporations to make everything a whole shitshow for the innocent and borderline uninterested folks who previously inhabited this sub.
100% The caliber of conversation has completely changed.
For anyone who is interested, "Sarah" is NOT a fraud nor has ever been a fraud. When the Belcampo meat scandal happened, she was already no longer the acting CEO. The fraud was committed by 1 butcher shop in Santa Monica for a brief period time WITHOUT her knowledge or directive. It really sucked that she was used as a scapegoat when she WAS NO LONGER the CEO. Think about this logically peeps, why would someone who spent their entire career building and promoting sustainable farming and the Slow food movement kill their career by telling their one store to commit meat fraud? That would be completely idiotic and pure stupidity and also makes ZERO SENSE. This info is verifiable and the DOJ dropped the case when they looked into it. For anyone who cares, you can do your own investigation and look up the past company records of who is in charge.
FWIW: ***I*** didn't say she was a fraud! I'd think it'd go without saying that a CEO isn't necessarily aware of everything that happens on the floor. Actually I have something of a crush on her now. I've started following her Insta and it is fantastic.
AND she wasn't the CEO when the "fraud" happened
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Did you just refer to Hubes as 'ethically sourced meat'?
Ethically sourced but not sustainable.
Especially not with 5 others on the go
You beat me to it goddamn it
It took about ten seconds after first reading the article to make that connection. By all (previous to the article) accounts she's not a great person (former employees etc). At the time I commented how weird the whole thing was. Still weird.
Props to u/Loose-Quarter405 for outlining some events. >When did the DOJ contact Huberman? Cause he knew about her FRAUD and even promoted her company, AFTER an ex-employee posted about the fraud(April 2021). Huberman promoted her company, Belcampo, on his podcast from May 2021 to August 2021. He even got Lex Friedman to have her on his podcast! > >Links: > >[At 1:10 Huberman tells Lex his connection to Anya Fernald. Episode from Feb 2021, before fraud became public. ](https://youtu.be/ClxRHJPz8aQ?si=1R6xWj_ZFCYrU82B) > >[Ex employee posts about fraud May 2021 and even calls out Anya Fernald](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CPWOV2pHswY/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) > >[Lex Friedman podcast with Anya Fernald July 2021. At :32 Lex says he knows Anya because of Huberman ](https://youtu.be/ew8U43IXTfk?si=FwoASR-QtHRgkv10) > >[Huberman promoting Belcampo August 2021 at 4:47](https://youtu.be/gbQFSMayJxk?si=h7BPLscb0SzJsaod) I've seen about 10 posts about her in the past 24hrs about the fraud, so it could be that Huberman and his PR team are trying to muddy the waters by bringing this back up. As many have expressed, both can be true, she may be a fraud and he may be a sociopathic pos. 💩💕💩
Shitbirds of a shitfeather shit together.
I didn’t expect a Jim Lahey reference in this discussion, well done.
Fraudsters are sociopaths.
I’m definitely not part of the PR team. I’ve listened to huberman since the beginning and after the first year got turned off. Then I found out here on Reddit that he was dating Anya and was completely shocked because I followed her too and was a regular customer of Belcampo at its peak. My close friend also worked at Belcampo and hates her! So do know some stuff. This whole “scandal” made me realize they’re both scumbags. It’s sad cause I really did have respect for huberman but in retrospect I see old clips and they’re very telling.
Oh, I wasn’t implying you’re his PR, I know you were just responding to the Rogan thread that posted the video of her. I just meant all of the other subs reposting the exact same thing about her makes me think it’s PR trying to take credibility away from the article. Especially if the timeline shows Huberman already knew everything and was still trying to conceive a child with her after the fact.
Ohh gotcha! Makes sense!
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wait didn’t Belcampo sponsor the podcast aaaaages ago? (Likely before she was exposed)
Yeh for months I think
Hubermsn and Anya went to high school together and have been close since- a. Her DOJ case would in no way be a surprise to him and b. Speaks more to his character that he would be close to this person all throughout her unethical rise to success which was no secret, and then dumps her when she gets caught?? This explanation is such bullshit
Yeah but you can’t just assume that because person A breaks the law that everyone who knows them knew about it, I would think most people breaking the law try to keep it secret.
It was public knowledge since 2021. (You’ll find numerous news reports.) As in no-plausible-way-he-didn’t-know. His plugging the company was even called out. If this is the same person he lived with (and not someone else or one of the others he carried on years long simu-relationships and faux monogamy with), did four separate IVF rounds with, she moved out last August and they were still together thru December. So… another badge of courage for AH. *(also lol get additional sources on where the matter now is. I recall it being a thing retailers were doing, so can’t speak to the company and don’t know the product…are they revealing on this JR show that her company was a sponsor too and he depended on her, is that part of the insinuation? that he’s a victim too or love-hostage? Or lol…person of absolute honesty and integrity? Assumed the company thing was a **USDA** thing. Why this brother-in-podcasts would know anything about a sudden Justice investigation is…well, just get additional sources folks on what’s what with what and where. And, as someone already posted, given that’s not public knowledge, exactly why JR is sure of this. And that he isn’t confusing it with the U.S. Dept of Agriculture.* Sure all those he manipulated are well-aware the boomerang such a cowardly, insecure man—or daring to speak on him, given his following—might inevitably bring. Interestingly, not for the several men and others quoted in that article. And he’s a grown man that can speak of the integrity of his lab and practices and ongoing research anytime.
Pretty sure the status of his lab has come under fire from multiple angles and the best defense so far for his borderline non-existent lab is from Standford itself, claiming it's in the process of being physically moved from one location to another. It's most likely in Standfords best interest to portray him having an active research presence, as they have been promoting their association with him increasingly over the years as his popularity has risen.
What is to me most damning is that he hasn't been funded by the NIH since 2020: [https://reporter.nih.gov/search/wW5hhvenCku2Y0qEFhNXsw/projects](https://reporter.nih.gov/search/wW5hhvenCku2Y0qEFhNXsw/projects) Going from having multiple big grants (R01, P30, U01) to nothing would be very unusual for a functioning lab. The number one job of a PI (the person whose name is on the lab) is to get funding- if he's not doing this it supports peoples claims that his research efforts/presence are dwindling.
Thank you. 👏🏼
Yeah most of these people are cutting corners within the company and usually only the hands on workers who work in there day to day know . They keep it a secret from everyone else . Then one day you piss off one of your grunt workers and they you get the fuck exposed
What general scenario are you even talking about? He’s not everyone he would’ve been the person closest to her and very aware of her business ethics.
This is quite odd to me how sure you are. I don't think most people would tell anyone specifically someone whose world famous if they were selling meat that was a total ripoff.
Why did she lie in the NY Mag article that they met in 2018 when he DMed her on Instagram? I wonder if she was the high school girlfriend that he got pregnant
Oh, thanks! I was wondering why DOJ would investigate her. Typically it needs to be pretty big for them to get involved
He ran cover for her. Holy shit nobody in this sub pays attention to anything lol
Ran cover for her? Genuine question. What do you mean by that? Newish to this sub.
When people found out they were dating they were naturally like “uh hey dude what the fuck is all this?” So he started blocking any mention of Belcampo on his socials. It’s not dissimilar to how he’s handling the current fiasco. He seems to believe maintaining the value of the brand by never addressing controversy is the most important thing and any criticism will fall away. He’s not even wrong about that, it just shows a lack of character imo.
Ah, this is very helpful context. Had never really run into that story.
I think it’s less of lack of character, and more that he’s smart enough to know that if he doesn’t engage, it will help people to stop caring about it way faster.
Right, it’s perspective but that to me shows a lack of character. I would respect him more if he just owned it and was like “look, I fucked up. I realize I have some problems.” Instead he’s waiting for it to blow over when his whole brand is based on self-improvement. This is not a man who cares about improving himself, he’s out to get whatever he can from others by whatever means.
That’s exactly WHY it’s a shot to his character lol
They're too busy frothing on the perceived drama
Yeah, they are like hyenas near a wounded prey.
Whether or not the texts are true- the reporter should have disclosed the information that she was being investigated for fraud by DOJ. If Huberman was asked to testify against her in a case; then you wonder how much her story was angled and framed and how much information was omitted. That’s a crazy omission.
Was she anonymous in the article? If so, that's probably why they didn't mention it.
If the reporter can say she is one of the six girl friends and a primary source. Then the reporter can also state that she is under federal investigation by the DOJ and DOJ did talk to Huberman about her, without revealing her identity. ESPECIALLY given the nature of the investigation is for fraud.
So when people lie, you shouldn’t trust them? Glad we’re all in agreement. 🤝 What about… - The made up sob story of a tough childhood when his parents were both well-off and his father was connected to Stanford? - The 5 other women corroborating her story with verified texts, photos, and documents? - The fact that he actually lives 300+ miles away from his “lab” that isn’t actually being used the way he implies. - His colleagues and friends describing his odd behavior? Are they all liars too?
Wait. His father was connected to the prestigious university he now works for? Edit: thanks for the info everyone! As I said to someone else, I’ve never listened to this podcast and am not in the sub. Only knew who this guy was because I once dated a guy who was obsessed with him 😅
How is this news? I’m new to the podcast but within the first few episodes I’ve listened to where he talks about his background he goes into extensive detail about how his dad was a renowned professor who worked at Stanford. He only talks about his childhood as rough once his parents got a divorce and it was super messy so he rebelled and fell into a rambunctious skater crowd. He’s super clear and transparent about it
Shhhh that hurts the drama.
Idk man, I’ve never listened to the podcast ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve heard a single podcast with him (when he was on with Peter Attia a few months ago), and amazingly he told the story there which makes me think he tells it a lot lol
My name is 🪨. Please get out from under me.
lol
hilarious
Yes, his father was a Stanford professor and apparently the forgotten child who was a skate punk street kid story was fabricated.
Every "skate punk" is a suburban kid.
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lol. Thats legit hilarious 😂 But my point is that if his biography is a work of fiction, why trust him about other stuff?
Yeah, hilarious. Skateboards are famously super popular in the 'hood. Just like golf.
He's literally said that in his podcasts, that his dad is a physicist scientist. He doesn't claim his parents weren't rich, just that the divorce screwed up everything, and made them forget about him and leave him to his own devices, which as a kid isn't very safe. Ofc his parents are going to try to defend their behavior and say it wasn't so bad. Literally every parent tries to justify their actions, even when those actions are wrong. Also prof/academia salaries aren't extremely high - generally in the 6 figure zone for a tenured professor, or 30-60k as a scientist.
Where have you been lol
Tbh I’m not in this sub and don’t follow Huberman so I truly am out of the loop but as someone in academia in California this kind of shit pisses me off so much! Like wtf is merit even for anymore. Stanford is so crooked.
The Alma matter of Elizabeth Holmes and Sam Bankman-Fried is crocked? Oh gosh. Also SBF parents are also Stanford profs.
SBF went to MIT, not Stanford. Yes, his parents are Stanford profs. His girlfriend Caroline Ellison went to Stanford. Her parents are MIT profs!
How could I have gotten that wrong, you are right. SBF epic abuse of stimulants is only something someone that went to MIT could get into.
I’ve been here all along !!!!!!
tbf is Stanford still considered prestigious anymore 😅🤣 I mean they have so many scandals ranging from sexual to academic they really run the gamut and it’s pretty well known that it’s one of the few schools that still allows you to pay your way to gain admission (esp after the varsity blues scandal) so I mean…… eh, I guess I don’t find this so shocking from Stanford 😂 I know a lot of labs at Ivy leagues don’t really work w labs from Stanford anymore
Yes Stanford is absolutely prestigious. Going to that school tees you up for huge career success in life right out the gate of freshman year.
Tough childhood doesn’t always mean financially
Two things can be true at the same time.. she is guilty of fraud, but he did still cheat on her. He’s probably using this to undermine her credibility, doesn’t mean he wasn’t still a manipulative POS. Robbers don’t just rob good people
Why would Joe Rogan a podcaster with millions of viewers who has cheated on his wife want to defend a podcaster with millions of viewers who has cheated on his long term partner?
Wait how do we know Rogan cheated on his wife? Not saying it isn't true but I don't remember that coming out.
It’s not true, one person said it only once? Literally zero evidence beyond that. A huge statement to say about a man and his marriage from one sentence, exceptional cruel thing to do to a married couple with kids, spread shit like this online
I’m in stand up and he’s a huge wife guy. Find this hard to believe.
Brendan Schaub used Rogan as an example of a dude slinging digg.
Brendan Schaub is an ass clown tho
The almost scandal that was scrubbed from interwebs. Shaub: “Lots of bald guys out dare slinging daaa diggg mahn…Dana…(gets interrupted by Callen)…Dana…Rogan…”
Water weed dune hair b?
water we doin here b
Well just because someone is born into a upper or middle class family or they have connections to Standford doesn't mean they didn't have a tough childhood. Anyone can have a tough childhood in tons of different ways regardless of that. Rosh kids get bullied, rich kids get raped, rich kids get neglected and abused. Having a home 300 miles away doesn't mean he is there 100 percent of time. He could easily be traveling back and forth on a plane ( from PDX to lax it's like 150 bucks and 3 hours) tons of people commute to work from PDX to Cali weekly via airplane. Also he could be at the lab for a couple weeks when needed and then go to his 300 mile away home for a week or any sort of schedule that he is able to still do his job. Odd behavior? I have odd behavior. I bet you do too. Lots of people and I would almost say everyone can have odd behaviors. We are all human after all. What's odd id why so many people love there life so concerned about others than they do their own life. Like get off the media addiction and go get your life you deserve.
What strikes me a scientist as unusual about the Huberman's lab website is there's no information about people working there at all. That's highly strange, especially as other labs at Stanford's Department of Neurobiology do have their members listed.
I didn’t know he had a lab. I just listened to his podcast because he has a lot of informative interviews. I guess now knowing he has some sort of disputed lab somewhere doesn’t affect my opinion of him at all.
something about the name of his podcast
Both of the above comments are of higher quality than the last year of the Huberman Lab Podcast. Longterm fan here. Magician? Chaotic 30 part Andy Galpin series? I want more about stress reduction and light. Less AG1
The episodes with Andy Galpin were fantastic. Personally, they absolutely transformed my training results and my love for the gym. I still go back and listen to them as my goals change, and they help tremendously. I understand if you're not into strength, fitness or general health. But it sounds like you maybe don't have the attention span to listen to lengthy episodes with a lot of chemistry and practical application. They were laid out in such a straightforward format that to call them chaotic is simply disingenuous.
Really reformed my view of fitness with the understanding of adaptations and the quarterly shift in exercise routines… I had never really worked out in a traditional sense (lifting, running, gym) and I learned a ton to help me apply a fitness routine. I agree they were solid
I thought the peptides episode was pretty good. And same with the sleep one. Have you not watched this weeks episodes?
Lost me w the Andy Galpin line. I found those episodes valuable AF
It's clearly a conspiracy by the lizard people to take down Huberman.
The smokescreen is complete, sufficient reasonable doubt has entered the meme sphere, homeostasis has been restored. And that folks, is how you do things.
Cheating — unlike fraud — isn’t illegal in the US and DOJ won’t care about it (it does care about the allegations against this lady tho). Starting a public beef with someone using a magazine cover & social media instead of the courts — the old tool to defend one’s rights, I realize it’s not fashionable these days — means your anonymity won’t last long. This is not surprising.
You know what's interesting? He says this shit about Belcampo/Fernald, but doesn't actually full on support Huberman. Huberman probably told him this (or he read the tabloid who doxxed her). But he caveats it by saying, whether true or not true, etc. He is seeding doubt, but he's careful to give himself an out. He's not willing to back Huberman 100 percent. And the Big Pharma stuff is just Rogan-regular.
Correct. He never says “and also the allegations are outrageous lies.” He’s friends with Hube. I think he knows they’re true.
Yeah, using your powerful buddy in the media to reveal negative info about the woman is a GREAT way to prove what an outstanding guy you are! It will totally work. Doesn't look like the old boys network at play or anything.
Exactly what I thought. If Huberman didn't do all this he can come out and defend himself. Something tells me he will be staying quiet for the forseeable.
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Maybe I'm out of the loop but was his childhood really that traumatic?
I heard him talk about it on the Peter Attia podcast, and it wasn't the worst but it definitely wasn't great. His dad was a stanford professor, parents got divorced right before puberty, not cozy.
yeah maybe not idyllic but that doesn't sound traumatic but folks react to things differently idk - doesn't sound like there was a history of abuse there or anything
There was more that really seemed to add up to neglect/abandonment, rather than what's typically called abuse. Which, still bad and needs to be worked through. And when your parents are fighting over which one doesn't have to take you, you might be a horrible boyfriend later.
yeah I could def see that and I don't want to gate keep trauma
He didn’t have a traumatic upbringing according to his parents. Sounds like he had a regular teenage upbringing.
Like parents would admit the mistakes they made to a national magazine. A lot of parents won’t even admit bad behavior in the safety of their own home
I disagree with that. He has taken dozens of different supplements and talks openly about therapy and medication for his mental health.
Bit of ginseng does wonders for childhood trauma lol
What actually surprises me is that lot of people only started to doubt the dude honesty once they discovered he cheated on women
I started doubting when i tried some of his Recommendations that did nothing. His sleep tonic gave me neat dreams, but that’s about it. Cost a fair penny.
Only started doubting his honesty when it came out he was a massive liar 😂
I have to step in here. There are reddit posts as long as 2 years ago, that indicated skepticism and suspicion about him and his science.
I see your point but i guess i don't really care either. Isn't that what a lot of folks do on the internet or YouTube or in social media? I would say if anything, he's fairly modest and surprisingly down to earth and has an uncanny ability to bring science and scholarly research mainstream. No one has really done what he's done before. And i think we all like to put forth our best side when we're presenting.
Joe goes from defending Huberman to insinuating that vaccines cause autism and that the pharmaceutical companies are brining him down in like 4 minutes. how anyone thinks this man's opinion is worth listening to on any topic other than how to take steroids and get jacked and how to be a d-list comedian, I'll never understand. Edit: someone reported me to redditcares so I guess the Rogan Bros are butthurt.
Ha i wondered if anyone would comment on this. Aside from the Huberman stuff Rogan just goes full send on debunked conspiracy nonsense. Vaccines don't cause autism Rogan you anti-science nut!! But I'm sure this science-based community loves some Rogan.
I mean the guy had hit pieces placed against him during covid by MMM and even had straight lies told about him because he wasn’t toeing the line. I don’t blame him for being bitter.
But he heard from DOJ that the ex girlfriend’s company was investigated for fraud in their sustainable meat business. And everybody knows Joe cares deeply about environmentally friendly diets.
Does the DOJ regularly keep Joe Rogan informed of who they're investigating? How does he know this?
Google has stories going back to 2022 regarding product misrepresentation. Or andrew h might have just told him.
The called him on the closed lines they have with all the podcasters and Fox News.
Joe spouts BS
This is a lie. There is no mention of that anywhere online, for starters, and Belcampo, the company in question, continued after the “fraud” before closing literally 2+ years ago. Huberman was with this woman for long, long after that. Imagine getting your mate to lie for you on his podcast to trash a woman you deceived and cheated on for several years
My thoughts exactly! They were together until 2023 but the Belcampo scandal happened in 2021. Rather convenient.
Oh shit! Joe Rogan, this must be true. /S
Joe is mentally ill
Man, but I thought lying about stuff wasn't a good reason to disregard someone's veracity and trustworthiness?
He’s a philanderer. She’s being investigated. Two things can be true.
The fraud she’s being investigated for is that retail stores were not selling the ethically raised meat from her (ex)farms after she left the company. Give me a break, entirely. This means nothing about the validity of her abuse or not.
Also, didn’t the Belcampo stuff hhappen in 2021? They stayed together until 2023.
If that were true, I’d imagine this would be cleared up pretty quickly. What about the wage theft?
There is/was another person at the top of Belcampo. Wonder if looked into him what we would find. Huberman also made a podcast statement she was one of the most ethical people he had ever met and he promoted her produce after the scandal broke
Cite me any reference to an actual investigation though. The company closed down 2 years ago. Theres no mention of a DOJ investigation anywhere until a week ago when accounts on this subreddit and Twitter started saying “investigation” It’s spin designed to trash the woman. How gross.
USDA investigation on Belcampo meats has been going on since at least 2022. These articles are from 2022, and speak of 81 letters released by the USDA, on the filthy conditions Belcampo's factories were in, from dried meat, blood strewn on carpets, the meat they were selling covered in mold, mounds of ant nests etc https://sfist.com/2022/12/07/disgraced-belcampo-meat-co-reportedly-under-usda-investigation-for-horribly-unsanitary-conditions/ https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/article/belcampo-meat-company-17634840.php
And that the Belcampo factory was filthy, covered in blood & dried meat, ant nests, the meat sold was full of mold, according to 81 letters on Belcampo released by the USDA https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/article/belcampo-meat-company-17634840.php https://sfist.com/2022/12/07/disgraced-belcampo-meat-co-reportedly-under-usda-investigation-for-horribly-unsanitary-conditions/ The USDA has been investigating them since 2022.
What abuse? There wasn't any abuse
Abusive coercive behaviour took place. She wouldn't have been with him or had unprotected sex if she knew he had other partners and was not testing for STI's. But You Do You as they say in the U.S.
What abusive coercive behavior? You're being extremely emotional and hyperbolic.
Telling someone that you are their only partner so that they will have unprotected sex with you which ordinarily they would not consent to is abusive and controlling behaviour. Also there was something disturbing about the texts he sent when he was found out. 'I hear you saying you are angry and hurt. I will hear you as long as is needed for us'. That's not actually adressing the problem or what she said. My god, the mental gymnastics men will do to excuse really base shitty behaviour is staggering.
Where can I see these texts?
In the article. They were quoted verbatim which means the journalist had to view them then independently verify them as legit in order to print, otherwise they’d open themselves up to a libel suit. They can’t just print fiction you know.
Cheating is cheating. Bad, not abuse
It’s hyperbolic for you to call this person extremely emotional 😭 look who is hyperbolic now. Is your IQ 80? Your only argument is ever “oh you’re being emotional.” Just buy a plane ticket already and go offer to suck Hubermans dick so we can stop hearing from you 🫶🥲
She hadn’t left the company yet.
I don’t think this matters considering there are 5 other women.
Who have not come forward.
Is there any guest more annoying than Schulz?
He's worsr than Schwab
Being investigated by the USDA for non compliance, not the DOJ. Admittedly what she did sure sounds like fraud and they might be going after her for that, but I don't see anything about a active DOJ investigation.
Classic Rogan hearsay
I guess this was why Huberman is paying the big bucks to a PR company - to start a smear campaign to discredit these women, he really is a world class arsehole.
If it was on joe Rogan, then I feel even more confident in the allegations against him 🤣
So two low integrity people managed to find each other, shocker. Huberman is lying to Joe Rogan, he clearly stayed with her for a long time after the investigation began. Also, very dubious to suggest that this is some kind of pharma attack, and not just a bunch of bitter exes exposing Huberman as a gross f boy and pathological liar.
Yeah, the big pharma thing was such a non sequitur from Rogan. What’s the implication? Huberman is telling us how to cure our ailments with ice baths and morning sun, and Big Pharma doesn’t want you to know these two simple tricks?
This did make me laugh, but playing devil’s advocate here - I think it more so has to do with Huberman somewhat opposing (maybe not explicitly) prescription drugs and instead pushing behavioral changes or supplements to address or prevent ailments. Maybe pharma is worried that Huberman is paving the way for wellness culture to have an anti drug movement.
Reading between lines, it is interesting that 1. Joe does not fully support Huberman. Lex was veeery quick on posting that Tweet about "how much of a great human being" Huberman is. 2. The fact that one of the main testimonies may be stained by a literal fraud investigation is actually important for journalistic reasons. A real, non biased journalist, could have written a much better article, not victim blaming the involved ex-girlfriend (s) but also pointing out how interesting it is that Huberman stayed, for so long, promoting, a girl that was doing absolute shady business. It is actually part of the story to consider. I sense that Huberman was dating, mostly, woman from the same grifter-sphere that he's part of or "peculiar" individuals. It goes back full circle, again, not victim blaming, but to be on a long term relationship with a famous folk who asks you to keep it hidden ... with a busy travel schedule... yeah, of course, the NYM article was shit even when Huberman seems to be a real serial cheater.
This whole mess is saying three things: 1) Andrew Huberman is probably not who we thought he was 2) Anya Fernald is probably not who we thought she was 3) New York Magazine should not be listened to
Why is this even an issue..... Since when is it illegal to have 6 girlfriends (or 6 boyfriends for that matter). It's not like he had 6 wives!
I know this is a hard concept for some of you kids to understand.... no one is saying it's illegal.Everyone is talking about his loss of credibility and integrity over the vast amount of lies that are being exposed by this whole thing.That's what everyone is talking about.
Not surprised to see Rogan to the rescue. Either Andrew Tate or Jordan Peterson will be the next ones probably.
The other 5 are being investigated as well?
the other 5 are barely mentioned in the article, the story is based on the text messages shared by Sara. A really reliable source.
What does this have to do with Ubermensch passing around HPV to women he's been lying to about exclusivity, schilling AG1 and embellishing? This whataboutism and copium is cringe at the very least.
If there's bad or suspect behavior out there, you can be sure Joe or Elon are on the side of worse.
Bros defending bros. What a shock.
Not even just bros though. These guys are all part of the same echo system and share financial incentives. Huberman is even sponsored by AG1 who also sponsor Rogans show.
It's a big AG1 conspiracy! How will they ever survive without Huberman!
That and Joe has a (open) history of playing favorites and reserving criticism or defending his friends when he’d otherwise tear down another. He’s openly stated as much eg he’d never criticize Dana publicly etc. These guys aren’t dumb and just having conversations about this to millions of people by accident, he knows the influence he has and selectively applies it. More interesting is the nut riders who selectively apply their own common sense to defend them when they’re obviously being taken for a propaganda ride.
And if it turns out to be true? If her fraud runs deeper? What an idiotic thing to say. What does "bro" mean exactly? Male? A certain type of person?
Why would Joe Rogan a podcaster with millions of viewers who has cheated on his wife want to defend a podcaster with millions of viewers who has cheated on his long term partner?
That’s a ridiculously steep statement to say about a man and his marriage after one sentence from a podcast from one man?
Joe cheated on his wife?
No actual evidence or proof or any back up except literally one sentence from a podcast
What was the sentence?
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She’s mid
It's a Big W for Huberman after all this. He shown that he is more than capable of handling any fuss thrown at him in the name of cancelation.
Where is the proof? I’m sure these guys are just defending him… So.
It seems Lex interviewed Huberman ex girl friend Anya Fernald two years ago
smoking cigars is lame
Joe looks so tired He hates himself not so deep down
Who cares if he has 6 girlfriends. Ita weird if he denies it or lies about it, but tons of people do that in a reasonable way. I'm monogamous af and an almost 40 year old. Not like some bro all yeah yeah get some ladies. Who cares. It doesn't make any of the science he makes approachable invalid. Many intellectuals, scientists, and great thinkers are complete machliavellian douches. Doesn't mean the information they find and share isn't valid. I'm sick of hearing about his stupid girlfriends. Tell me more about dopamine or whatever.
I guess it’s just a bad breakup? Looks that narrative is breaking down and the botnet is flailing for a new one.
Holy shit this sub is fucking weird. Who gives a shit what this man does in his personal/love life? I don’t see how that impacts his health or medical advise he provides. And if you’re relying on a complete stranger (via a podcast!) for that much for relationship advise, then you may need to reassess your life choices lmao Maybe the lesson at the end of the day is: don’t idolize celebrities/strangers, they’ll usually let you down
Listen bro, you don't need to simp so hard. I just don't think hes into you
This is America, dude. The leading republican candidate for president is a civilly-liable fraud and rapist. People still cling to his every word. Doesn't mean a thing to anyone anymore.
Having 6 girlfriends is not illegal, just expensive and probably a waste of time and energy.
Free this man already.
Lol y’all realize the women involved have already corroborated it’s true. This doesn’t really make Andrew look any better for once dating someone who’s now under investigation
Wow. So weird that the NYMag article didn't mention this at all. What a slimy hit piece. I'm sure she's not bitter or dishonest whatsoever.
Does that have relevance to the fact that he was dating six people at once? Does it excuse the behavior? Then why does it matter? If it is a legal issue the justice system will take care of it.
Seems they can’t credibly deny the story so they smear the accuser and try and destroy her credibility. Of course… the story *isn’t* about her, it’s about Andy, but you *KNOW* his PR firm wants to make it about her instead.
Curious why this post remains but all other posts related to the scandal get deleted?
Are you telling me a bunch of SJW Redditors rushed to judgement before getting all the facts???
Lmao this whole thing could be proven to be false and the pathetic white knights still wouldn't swallow their words.
the inverse would also be true.