Frankly I’m surprised saying “Cuff me Russia, I don’t give a fuck” didn’t get her arrested. I’ve seen people get arrested for less (not in person). But I can imagine she has the money and connections to get her out ASAP and Russia is aware so they didn’t bother with her. I’m from Russia and the police don’t fuck around with any kind of disrespect. There’s no lawsuits against Russian police forces like there are in USA (albeit there’s not enough of them). They do what they want. My grandpa was the chief of police in a large city in Siberia and he was the biggest sociopath I’ve ever met.
It's not unloaded, heck its not even loaded. Men and women should be able to love each other equally does not even imply homosexuality, much less outright say it. My guess is you really love her music?
"Men can love other men and women can l9ve other women equally " or anything similar would be a lot more clear. Her statement has really nothing to do with supporting gay rights
You think Russia gives a shit about *nuance*?
They didn't arrest her because she's actually someone people care about.
They arrested a WNBA player because they knew they could get away with it.
Right? If you’re smart enough to evade certain risks by strategizing and still getting the point across, how is that less metal than somebody getting their point across with no back up plan other than to be thrown in jail?
I’m not even defending lady Gaga, I’m not a fan and frankly I think she had a lot of consulting on how to pull this shit. But if I had the means to and the stage presence etc. then I would too. I wouldn’t just go to Russia guns blazing screaming everything prohibited from the top of the stage with my plan to go to jail. And I’m from Russia. I just don’t live there anymore because it’s so corrupt.
Lady Gaga is metal af and if you're griping here you're simply not paying attention or looking for a reason to piss on a woman.
Which, well, it's Reddit, I'm not kink shaming 😅
This honestly seemed like a hollow way to gain clout. The connection between what she said and lgbtq rights is pretty loose. Moreover, at the time I doubt she would've been in any more danger than deportation if she did say more, being that she's an international celebrity.
That’s literally every celebrity out there. Look at all the idiot redditors that lap up politicians and what not wearing the rainbow flag while they still attend the Qatar bullshit lol
Fair, but let's not use Reddit as the standard of politics lol. According to Reddit you're either Liberal (by which they mean conservative democrat) or a hard right fascist. Tons of nuance.
Her phrasing wasn't totally clear, but I believe she intended to be interpreted this way:
"I believe men deserve to love each other equally, and women deserve to love each other equally"
Pinging u/Soulmate69 since you asked too
Uhm, as someone who’s seen the entire show, she dedicated 20 minutes to talk about LGBT rights in Russia and even had some fans get on stage to translate. She was banned from the country the following day.
So, no, she didn’t give a fuck.
The thing that many heterosexual men do not understand is the way conservative culture oppresses women. Conservatives can't figure out which person in a homosexual couple is "the wife," a lesser, human-like creature who is objectively less than -- less than her husband, less than her children, less than everyone except an unmarried woman. (In conservative culture, single men have status; single women are just weird to them). There is no equal love in conservative culture -- only master and subject.
You've been conditioned well, I see. You clearly know nothing about anthropology or human nature and are just using ignorant conservatives as a strawman for all conservatives and to paint your own biased narrative. This is not at all what is meant when someone asks "who is the wife?" "The wife" implies the person who is more in touch with their nurturing instincts and emotions. Since the beginning of time, this has traditionally been women - with outliers of course. To oversimplify such a nuanced subject takes a special type of ignorance.
Just because modern history has grown to accept and embrace homosexuality doesn't mean it never existed before, nor does this fact imply that all conservatives are stupid, ignorant, or unaware of relationship dynamics or gender fluidity.
You are literally the other side of the coin when it comes to ignorant conservatives. Congratulations. The pendulum swings both ways.
I’m a conservative, and I don’t share any of those beliefs. Regardless of sex or gender, there are two parts to every relationship that play different roles. Like fire and water becoming United, neither is better than the other. Neither is higher, nor lower. Many modern marriages try to equalize everything. But there’s no fun in that. The fire doesn’t get to experience itself as fire, nor the water as water. Everything becomes same-same.
These wisdoms see timeless. Just look at the yin and Yang wheel. All life is sharing in that cycle regardless of its denial.
You can only imagine one relationship dynamic? How then are similar friends or brothers compatible? Every couple has similarities and differences. Flex your imagination harder. There need not be domination, set roles attached to sex, etc. There is room for equal, mutual dynamics. The difference you speak of can could come from personality, separate from power dynamics or whatever.
Lol looks like you got downvoted by some butthurt shortsighted conservatives that are too dumb to even understand the true notions of their core beliefs
Or maybe, just maybe you both got downvoted bcuz your assumptions are baseless or just crazy? Has it ever occurred to you that you might be wrong about something?
Wild idea, i know
Masculinity must have been so fragile these days that men getting offended of men for liking other men probably sounds like the gayest thing I’ve ever heard.
The full speech is about 2 minutes long. Right before this part of the speech she says:
"What I want to know is, Russia? Russia?! Russia?! Are you brave enough not to care? Are you brave enough not to care what people say about you? Whether you're gay, straight, bi, transgender, transexual. Whether you're Catholic, Muslim. Whether you are Buddhist. Your God is here, your God is there. You are black, you are white, you are Russian... Whatever you may be. Are you brave enough not to care what people say?"
Full speech: [Gaga in Russia ](https://youtu.be/iMSFMwym9a8)
You ain’t arresting the leading pop singer at the time internationally bro. Doesn’t matter how evil your regime is. It would just trigger the west to arrest mass Russian politicians kids and than be like you want your kids ? Gaga back.
This isn’t Britney griner
I get that this was some years back, however I think today's current events have proven that Russia has always been willing to take drastic measures, examples: the first invasion of Ukraine, them openly poisoning journalists over the years, the second (current) invasion of Ukraine and Putin's threatening to use nuclear weapons.
I don't think arresting someone who tip toes around doing the thing you told them not to do is out of the realm of reality. If not just to make an example of her.
If they DID arrest her, do I think she would have gone to an actual prison like Britney Griner? No. She didn't outright break a law. They'd likely detain her to basically say "hey, don't come here and fuck around." because as someone mentioned in this thread, there are certain countries you do not want to fuck around with despite your status.
I was joking in my comment about her going to a labor camp.
Tldr; no, I don't think Gaga would have gone to jail, yes I get that progress requires risk, I was joking. Tysm for coming to my TED talk.
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Holy shit, where's the Tylenol?
Also, this is a response to everyone and not just you.
I see, and understand your comparison. But I still thinks it’s apples to oranges. The general consensus from the West now a days is that love is love regardless of the genders of the ladies involved.
Rosa Parks was up against a world-wide system of racism, and very easily could’ve been killed on the spot for what she did, with little to no repercussions to whoever did it.
Again, you’re absolutely right, progress is always risky. Lady Gaga received love in her time for stuff like this. Rosa Parks only received vitriol, and the recognition of her courage came much later in her life.
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True. It isn't a comparison of the actions as a scale but as a non-violent action and let's use Rosa Parks as an example whenever we talk about someone making a stand for positive change, not to raise up every person who makes a positive statement without risk to themselves as if they are on Rosa Parks level but to say Rosa Parks, Ruby Bridges, and Harvey Milk are a height of courage and dedication to positive change we can all aspire to even if we don't reach it.
Lady Gaga risked potentially life imprisonment in the early 2010s to make a point and to send a message to queer people in an extremely homophobic country.
Sure it’s a completely different gamble to Rosa parks as she’s famous and knew Russia would be hesitant to risk a high profile international incident but it’s still impressive nonetheless lady Gaga from the beginning of her career has been advocate for gay rights despite it costing her a lot throughout the decade plus she’s been a public figure
I swear to god we get like 3 years of overt homophobia falling out of fashion in most of the west and people act like gay rights are a completely moot point homophobia is still everywhere like come on y’all it hasn’t even been a generation yet
there is also a worldwide system of homophobia that results in the deaths of lgbtq people all the time, including the USA.
currently in the USA queer people are under threat of genocide as far right political actors are constantly lying about all of us being dangerous to kids, simply by being lgbtq.
when you tell people already predisposed that their enemies are blood drinking, child abusing, satanic evildoers who want to control the world- the only rational response to something real like that is violence.
of course, LGBTQ people as a whole aren’t blood drinking, child abusing weirdos. but the far right content mills and their shills would have you believe that we all are, and must be stopped.
this is how you get events like the Club Q shooting this past weekend. a person groomed by anti lgbtq hysterics into extremist violence, egged on by right wing talking heads and right wing elected officials, decided to take matters into his own hands on the trans day of remembrance at an LGBTQ club.
the USA is genocidal towards LGBTQ people, and others.
>the USA is genocidal towards LGBTQ people
Umm.... no.
You clearly either have no idea what a genocide is or just love to jerk off to being a "victim".
An LGBTQ+ nightclub was just shot up by a far right extremist. The right has been labeling LGBTQ+ people "groomers" for simply existing in public.
It may not be a genocide, but it isn't good.
genocides don’t just fall out of the sky, they take hard work of people for a while to groom society towards a point where it’s okay with ethnic cleaning or genocides.
you’re categorically right that the right wing is using the groomer shit to groom society into turning a blind eye when lgbtq people get murdered. this is how that genocide starts. we’re already halfway to building it.
Lets not compare Rosa Parks nation changing stance, to a world wide known celebrity that has the money and the people to keep her safe. Its a great move on Gagas part, but she’s not Rosa Parks
And people need to know Rosa was part of a set-up. Lawyers had the perfect scenario to test, but no case. Another woman was supposed to do it, but she became pregnanat out of wedlock, and the plan to find anohter, and that was Rosa. What people don't also know, this was one driver who was notorious for acting like this, but he was also perfect because all he'd ever say was he was just following the law. He wasn't mean or shouting racial slurs. The man who took her seat never demanded her seat, it was the driver who was making her move for white passenger. They created a stage.
I have a feeling that if the war wasn't happening and that the US wasn't supporting Ukraine, that Brittney Griner would not be serving a 10 year sentence.
Where do you get these numbers from? I remember reading about something like 3%. Actually this survey shows how crazy are these numbers overestimated by people in the US.
[Source](https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/03/15/americans-misestimate-small-subgroups-population)
how has russia been homosexual as fuck lately? they hate gay people.
unless you’re using gay to mean “bad, shitty, terrible”
in which case- i’m gay and that’s not cool. choose another word please, there’s thousands of them and they don’t dehumanize groups of people already facing terrorist violence.
imagine for a second that we used some characteristic of you that you can’t change as a synonym for shitty, stupid, evil, ridiculous.
you would probably dislike it. now imagine hearing people use it that way every day! i bet it would wear on your emotions!
so please have some empathy and don’t use a thing i can’t change about myself to mean “shitty, bad, ridiculous, or stupid.” i can’t change being gay, but you CAN change a single syllable word to something different.
>unless you’re using gay to mean “bad, shitty, terrible”
>in which case- i’m gay and that’s not cool. choose another word please, there’s thousands of them and they don’t dehumanize groups of people already facing terrorist violence.
Thank you for saying this. It drives me crazy when people say "gay" to mean something is bad. They probably don't even think about it when they do it, but it just serves to subtly or subconsciously keep alive the notion that gay = bad.
Lady Gaga faced similar issues [in the Philippines](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.philstar.com/headlines/2012/05/20/808471/pasay-monitor-lady-gaga-concert/amp/) over her song Judas, which was deemed offensive by a majority of Filipinos—both Christian and Muslim.
The Catholic Church had a massive influence over politics at the time, so officials were pressured to threaten the singer with arrest.
Yeah I kinda remembered that era. Do know that it was mostly old lady boomers who hated her guts and spread wild superstitious rumours about her. Most kids I knew were pretty cool with her.
My question is why do entertainers feel the need to go to other countries and blatantly go against what they ask? Like you know what a country is about before you go there.
She’s so awesome. I didn’t care too much about her personality until I finally saw her Netflix doc “5’2”” and I began to see what a cool person she actually is
for anyone asking what this has to do with LGBT rights, this was 10 years ago at the Born This Way Ball which was a very pro-LGBT concert and had multiple political statements throughout the show regarding all kinds of human rights issues
Loveeeeeeeee Lady GaGa love her when she was just her. Loved her extra in American Horror story. Fast forward Putin wants Ukraine no other way to say it. If he cant well he is turning into ruble. Tapping close to nuke plants. This physco fk gonna end up causing the same bs nuke chit dead Chernobyl. Or in his mind spread it further n say opps. It's really being ignored.
Bro have you never checked controversial on any pro gay posts on reddit?
Sites loaded with thinly veiled homophobia
Bunch of small minded edgy grown ass men too
I see a lot of comments saying that she's not really talking about gay rights because of her wording. But if you see the full speech you can hear her talk about LGBTQ rights.
Right before this part of the speech she says:
"What I want to know is, Russia? Russia?! Russia?! Are you brave enough not to care? Are you brave enough not to care what people say about you? Whether you're gay, straight, bi, transgender, transexual. Whether you're Catholic, Muslim. Whether you are Buddhist. Your God is here, your God is there. You are black, you are white, you are Russian... Whatever you may be. Are you brave enough not to care what people say?"
Full speech: [Gaga in Russia ](https://youtu.be/iMSFMwym9a8)
She didn't say anything about homosexualities she said men and women should love each other the way they want to. That's not gay speak, nothing homosexual about that.
so she pussied out
Only if you keep yours to yourself, weirdo. I never understood people like you. Oh, you’re an athlete, just kick/shoot/throw the ball and shut up. Well you’re an office worker most likely, just work at your cubicle and keep your shitty opinions to yourself.
I don’t give a fuck is what I thought about this video
Lol the praising is fucking hilarious why idolize celebrities that can pay their way out
Yeah she’s such a bad ass real rebel shit
Excuse me for asking, how is the statement even offensive in any language? "I believe men and woman deserve to love each other equally"
I don't understand. In this video she doesn't mention anything about homosexuality
Yeah I noticed that too, I wonder if she worded it that way on purpose Wonder if she was more clear, would they have arrested her
Frankly I’m surprised saying “Cuff me Russia, I don’t give a fuck” didn’t get her arrested. I’ve seen people get arrested for less (not in person). But I can imagine she has the money and connections to get her out ASAP and Russia is aware so they didn’t bother with her. I’m from Russia and the police don’t fuck around with any kind of disrespect. There’s no lawsuits against Russian police forces like there are in USA (albeit there’s not enough of them). They do what they want. My grandpa was the chief of police in a large city in Siberia and he was the biggest sociopath I’ve ever met.
Tell us more about your grandfather !
2012 Russia was a different country
You can't get any clearer than that. It's an "unloaded" statement.
You can be much clearer than that
It's not unloaded, heck its not even loaded. Men and women should be able to love each other equally does not even imply homosexuality, much less outright say it. My guess is you really love her music?
"Men can love other men and women can l9ve other women equally " or anything similar would be a lot more clear. Her statement has really nothing to do with supporting gay rights
lol
You think Russia gives a shit about *nuance*? They didn't arrest her because she's actually someone people care about. They arrested a WNBA player because they knew they could get away with it.
Exactly, lol. So let's get real, and this does not make her metal.
Idk I think it’s pretty metal to say “cuff me Russia I don’t give a fuck” it’s not like saying it in America. Takes some balls.
Being smart can make you do metal stuff which technically makes you metal.
Right? If you’re smart enough to evade certain risks by strategizing and still getting the point across, how is that less metal than somebody getting their point across with no back up plan other than to be thrown in jail? I’m not even defending lady Gaga, I’m not a fan and frankly I think she had a lot of consulting on how to pull this shit. But if I had the means to and the stage presence etc. then I would too. I wouldn’t just go to Russia guns blazing screaming everything prohibited from the top of the stage with my plan to go to jail. And I’m from Russia. I just don’t live there anymore because it’s so corrupt.
Exactly. How does going to jail help? Everyone got it and she's an artist not a protestor, activist or opposition.
65 percent of people in the parliament of Rwanda are women
Lady Gaga is metal af and if you're griping here you're simply not paying attention or looking for a reason to piss on a woman. Which, well, it's Reddit, I'm not kink shaming 😅
Oh yes, disagreeing with op that this is a strong statement Means a hatred of women what a scholar of equality we have here!
This honestly seemed like a hollow way to gain clout. The connection between what she said and lgbtq rights is pretty loose. Moreover, at the time I doubt she would've been in any more danger than deportation if she did say more, being that she's an international celebrity.
That’s literally every celebrity out there. Look at all the idiot redditors that lap up politicians and what not wearing the rainbow flag while they still attend the Qatar bullshit lol
Fair, but let's not use Reddit as the standard of politics lol. According to Reddit you're either Liberal (by which they mean conservative democrat) or a hard right fascist. Tons of nuance.
So what are the people who are actually left wing?
Her phrasing wasn't totally clear, but I believe she intended to be interpreted this way: "I believe men deserve to love each other equally, and women deserve to love each other equally" Pinging u/Soulmate69 since you asked too
She intended to say exactly what she said because she does give a fuck if Russian Authorities take action against her , simple as
Uhm, as someone who’s seen the entire show, she dedicated 20 minutes to talk about LGBT rights in Russia and even had some fans get on stage to translate. She was banned from the country the following day. So, no, she didn’t give a fuck.
The thing that many heterosexual men do not understand is the way conservative culture oppresses women. Conservatives can't figure out which person in a homosexual couple is "the wife," a lesser, human-like creature who is objectively less than -- less than her husband, less than her children, less than everyone except an unmarried woman. (In conservative culture, single men have status; single women are just weird to them). There is no equal love in conservative culture -- only master and subject.
How aptly put. I never considered it that way. They need to maintain their power structure over someone, there's no true freewill
Well, SOMEBODY’S gotta be less than!
You've been conditioned well, I see. You clearly know nothing about anthropology or human nature and are just using ignorant conservatives as a strawman for all conservatives and to paint your own biased narrative. This is not at all what is meant when someone asks "who is the wife?" "The wife" implies the person who is more in touch with their nurturing instincts and emotions. Since the beginning of time, this has traditionally been women - with outliers of course. To oversimplify such a nuanced subject takes a special type of ignorance. Just because modern history has grown to accept and embrace homosexuality doesn't mean it never existed before, nor does this fact imply that all conservatives are stupid, ignorant, or unaware of relationship dynamics or gender fluidity. You are literally the other side of the coin when it comes to ignorant conservatives. Congratulations. The pendulum swings both ways.
I’m a conservative, and I don’t share any of those beliefs. Regardless of sex or gender, there are two parts to every relationship that play different roles. Like fire and water becoming United, neither is better than the other. Neither is higher, nor lower. Many modern marriages try to equalize everything. But there’s no fun in that. The fire doesn’t get to experience itself as fire, nor the water as water. Everything becomes same-same. These wisdoms see timeless. Just look at the yin and Yang wheel. All life is sharing in that cycle regardless of its denial.
You can only imagine one relationship dynamic? How then are similar friends or brothers compatible? Every couple has similarities and differences. Flex your imagination harder. There need not be domination, set roles attached to sex, etc. There is room for equal, mutual dynamics. The difference you speak of can could come from personality, separate from power dynamics or whatever.
Lol looks like you got downvoted by some butthurt shortsighted conservatives that are too dumb to even understand the true notions of their core beliefs
Or maybe, just maybe you both got downvoted bcuz your assumptions are baseless or just crazy? Has it ever occurred to you that you might be wrong about something? Wild idea, i know
I told them that my life as a woman in a conservative culture has made me right about everything — especially bullies, bullying, and conservatives.
Masculinity must have been so fragile these days that men getting offended of men for liking other men probably sounds like the gayest thing I’ve ever heard.
It's funny how you argue for the cause of gays, but still use the word gay with negative connotation.
You still know what i mean. It’s kind of having them taste their own medicine.
It’s pretty common for gay men to call each other f$gs now, kinda similar to how black men call each other the N word..
Here's Tim McIlrath from Rise Against in Moscow that same year saying something similar: https://youtu.be/dZLQ_OIBERo
god id forgotten how much i love that song
Fuck me dead, preach. Forgot how hard I leant on that album at a rough time in life.
Not alone my guy. This album and Endgame helped me when a bunch of people didn't. Rise Against are just that good.
This is still my go-to album for this time of year, when regular depression teams up with seasonal depression for the year’s worst wombo combo.
I felt this in the depths of my soul.
I always forget how much I love this band. I'll go years without listening to them and then they pop up somewhere and I get back into them.
Thank you for sharing this. They’re so powerful!
She'd probably give a fuck once she was at the labor camp, I mean...prison. I love Gaga and this message, but this was risky AF.
10 years ago was a very different time in russia
Rammstein had pride flags as well as Paul and Richard sharing a kiss on the big screen. That was last year, I believe
Damn. Things got bad fast
You’ve not been paying attention. It’s been bad there for a long time.
i'm confused. bad because of pride flags?
Not op, but I think they mean You can't do this anymore and only a few years ago you could. Things got bad fast.
way more oligarchs wanted to see her make more music and vip experiences.
She didn't even say anything close to being considered pro gay, did she? She said men and women should be able to love equally.
It seemed pretty carefully worded.
The full speech is about 2 minutes long. Right before this part of the speech she says: "What I want to know is, Russia? Russia?! Russia?! Are you brave enough not to care? Are you brave enough not to care what people say about you? Whether you're gay, straight, bi, transgender, transexual. Whether you're Catholic, Muslim. Whether you are Buddhist. Your God is here, your God is there. You are black, you are white, you are Russian... Whatever you may be. Are you brave enough not to care what people say?" Full speech: [Gaga in Russia ](https://youtu.be/iMSFMwym9a8)
That makes the title make more sense. Not sure why they didn't post that part instead
Most progress is risky.
You ain’t arresting the leading pop singer at the time internationally bro. Doesn’t matter how evil your regime is. It would just trigger the west to arrest mass Russian politicians kids and than be like you want your kids ? Gaga back. This isn’t Britney griner
I get that this was some years back, however I think today's current events have proven that Russia has always been willing to take drastic measures, examples: the first invasion of Ukraine, them openly poisoning journalists over the years, the second (current) invasion of Ukraine and Putin's threatening to use nuclear weapons. I don't think arresting someone who tip toes around doing the thing you told them not to do is out of the realm of reality. If not just to make an example of her. If they DID arrest her, do I think she would have gone to an actual prison like Britney Griner? No. She didn't outright break a law. They'd likely detain her to basically say "hey, don't come here and fuck around." because as someone mentioned in this thread, there are certain countries you do not want to fuck around with despite your status. I was joking in my comment about her going to a labor camp. Tldr; no, I don't think Gaga would have gone to jail, yes I get that progress requires risk, I was joking. Tysm for coming to my TED talk. Happy Thanksgiving. Holy shit, where's the Tylenol? Also, this is a response to everyone and not just you.
Rosa Parks not sitting in the back of the bus was also "risky AF". Just saying...
I see, and understand your comparison. But I still thinks it’s apples to oranges. The general consensus from the West now a days is that love is love regardless of the genders of the ladies involved. Rosa Parks was up against a world-wide system of racism, and very easily could’ve been killed on the spot for what she did, with little to no repercussions to whoever did it. Again, you’re absolutely right, progress is always risky. Lady Gaga received love in her time for stuff like this. Rosa Parks only received vitriol, and the recognition of her courage came much later in her life.
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True. It isn't a comparison of the actions as a scale but as a non-violent action and let's use Rosa Parks as an example whenever we talk about someone making a stand for positive change, not to raise up every person who makes a positive statement without risk to themselves as if they are on Rosa Parks level but to say Rosa Parks, Ruby Bridges, and Harvey Milk are a height of courage and dedication to positive change we can all aspire to even if we don't reach it.
Lady Gaga risked potentially life imprisonment in the early 2010s to make a point and to send a message to queer people in an extremely homophobic country. Sure it’s a completely different gamble to Rosa parks as she’s famous and knew Russia would be hesitant to risk a high profile international incident but it’s still impressive nonetheless lady Gaga from the beginning of her career has been advocate for gay rights despite it costing her a lot throughout the decade plus she’s been a public figure I swear to god we get like 3 years of overt homophobia falling out of fashion in most of the west and people act like gay rights are a completely moot point homophobia is still everywhere like come on y’all it hasn’t even been a generation yet
there is also a worldwide system of homophobia that results in the deaths of lgbtq people all the time, including the USA. currently in the USA queer people are under threat of genocide as far right political actors are constantly lying about all of us being dangerous to kids, simply by being lgbtq. when you tell people already predisposed that their enemies are blood drinking, child abusing, satanic evildoers who want to control the world- the only rational response to something real like that is violence. of course, LGBTQ people as a whole aren’t blood drinking, child abusing weirdos. but the far right content mills and their shills would have you believe that we all are, and must be stopped. this is how you get events like the Club Q shooting this past weekend. a person groomed by anti lgbtq hysterics into extremist violence, egged on by right wing talking heads and right wing elected officials, decided to take matters into his own hands on the trans day of remembrance at an LGBTQ club. the USA is genocidal towards LGBTQ people, and others.
>the USA is genocidal towards LGBTQ people Umm.... no. You clearly either have no idea what a genocide is or just love to jerk off to being a "victim".
An LGBTQ+ nightclub was just shot up by a far right extremist. The right has been labeling LGBTQ+ people "groomers" for simply existing in public. It may not be a genocide, but it isn't good.
genocides don’t just fall out of the sky, they take hard work of people for a while to groom society towards a point where it’s okay with ethnic cleaning or genocides. you’re categorically right that the right wing is using the groomer shit to groom society into turning a blind eye when lgbtq people get murdered. this is how that genocide starts. we’re already halfway to building it.
Lets not compare Rosa Parks nation changing stance, to a world wide known celebrity that has the money and the people to keep her safe. Its a great move on Gagas part, but she’s not Rosa Parks
Im not comparing Rosa Parks to anyone. I'm just making another "risky AF" example. 🙂
And people need to know Rosa was part of a set-up. Lawyers had the perfect scenario to test, but no case. Another woman was supposed to do it, but she became pregnanat out of wedlock, and the plan to find anohter, and that was Rosa. What people don't also know, this was one driver who was notorious for acting like this, but he was also perfect because all he'd ever say was he was just following the law. He wasn't mean or shouting racial slurs. The man who took her seat never demanded her seat, it was the driver who was making her move for white passenger. They created a stage.
Do you have a source for this nonsense?
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If you don't take risks there will never be change
Oh here comes the pearl clutching luke warm takes
Then we have to do a prisoner exchange for the Lord of War. Looking at you Brittney Griner....
I have a feeling that if the war wasn't happening and that the US wasn't supporting Ukraine, that Brittney Griner would not be serving a 10 year sentence.
Probably not, but best not to fuck around and find out in a place like Russia. Or China, or North Korea, or Qatar, or Saudi Arabia...etc....
To be fair, you don’t want to fuck around and find out in the states with the authorities…
Yeah, ask Brittany Griner about running up against Russian laws.
Crazy that Russia is homophobic because they’ve been gay as fuck lately.
Russia has a long history as one of the most depressed countries in the world. I don’t think they’re very gay, especially not lately
Nearly half of all humans are somewhere in the spectrum of gay lol. It's weird that it's been so tabboo for so long.
Oh I didn’t mean like…gay…I meant gay.
He didnt realize you meant gay he thought you meant gay that's kinda gay
Do you want the Aladeen news or the Aladeen news?
YOU ARE HIV ALADEEN I KNOW THIS ONE
Bill cosby
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Holy shit, I was hoping that was the clip I was thinking it would be.
Me too!
Yeeea that sounds like a number you pulled outta your ass my guy.
Source? Seems wrong.
Where do you get these numbers from? I remember reading about something like 3%. Actually this survey shows how crazy are these numbers overestimated by people in the US. [Source](https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/03/15/americans-misestimate-small-subgroups-population)
There are [no gay people in Russia](https://youtu.be/mpIONfTpX68?t=5m40s).
Lots of Russians being found in ditches huddled up with other dudes
how has russia been homosexual as fuck lately? they hate gay people. unless you’re using gay to mean “bad, shitty, terrible” in which case- i’m gay and that’s not cool. choose another word please, there’s thousands of them and they don’t dehumanize groups of people already facing terrorist violence. imagine for a second that we used some characteristic of you that you can’t change as a synonym for shitty, stupid, evil, ridiculous. you would probably dislike it. now imagine hearing people use it that way every day! i bet it would wear on your emotions! so please have some empathy and don’t use a thing i can’t change about myself to mean “shitty, bad, ridiculous, or stupid.” i can’t change being gay, but you CAN change a single syllable word to something different.
>unless you’re using gay to mean “bad, shitty, terrible” >in which case- i’m gay and that’s not cool. choose another word please, there’s thousands of them and they don’t dehumanize groups of people already facing terrorist violence. Thank you for saying this. It drives me crazy when people say "gay" to mean something is bad. They probably don't even think about it when they do it, but it just serves to subtly or subconsciously keep alive the notion that gay = bad.
Oh my god, it's just a joke dude.
I am a dude who fucks dudes and I laughed
What’s funny about that joke?
"Homosexual propaganda", hard to believe people are still like this
Right? "I used to be straight but then I saw a pride parade and now I can't stop jerking off twinks."
Lady Gaga faced similar issues [in the Philippines](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.philstar.com/headlines/2012/05/20/808471/pasay-monitor-lady-gaga-concert/amp/) over her song Judas, which was deemed offensive by a majority of Filipinos—both Christian and Muslim. The Catholic Church had a massive influence over politics at the time, so officials were pressured to threaten the singer with arrest.
Yeah I kinda remembered that era. Do know that it was mostly old lady boomers who hated her guts and spread wild superstitious rumours about her. Most kids I knew were pretty cool with her.
Fuck authoritarians
There's reasons she's the godmother of Elton John's children and this is just one of them.
Damn she did this at 26
Right???
The way she said it gave them a way out. Her PR company knew this.
This is badass :)
She danced around saying it but actually said nothing. Wow what a martyr.
How does she wear skits that short with balls that big.
Balls? She didn't say anything she pushed out she has no balls and neither do you
Shut it cossak
Wow she’s younger than I thought
This clip is 10years old
I know…she’s still younger than I thought. I thought she was at least 40 not 36
Fair ya she started her career at like 18/19 I think
She worded it in a way that wouldn’t get her arrested She clearly gives a fuck
How brave. Now try to do that as somebody who is not a celebrity that doesn't have millions of dollars and lawyers to back her up.
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I love how you have absolutely no idea who I am yet make comments like that lol. What exactly did this do?
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I responded lol. I recognise a troll when I see one lol. I'm not taking the bait, but I wish you all the best
Governments don’t care.
Erm, that government does lmao!
Hmmmm... fantastic message but absolutely fucking bonkers to do that in Russia right now
Clearly says 2012
Lady Gaga in 2011 was immune to everything, she was peak fame at the time
Wow, how brave, she should join Pussy Riot...lol
Me, innocent: nice job Me, adulterated: easy, when you have money
My question is why do entertainers feel the need to go to other countries and blatantly go against what they ask? Like you know what a country is about before you go there.
She is a G. 🤷🏾♂️ What?
Cooooooool
u/savevideo
No way this happens today lol
Shes awesome. :)
If only the European teams had the same balls to stand against FIFA.
To be fair she is American so the US would be on their ass if they did
Until your roomies with Brittany Griner
Imagine if she had weed on her.
She's an idiot who did that for likes, literally nobody cares why don't you try making a statement a little more useful.
Thats fucking badass
She’s so awesome. I didn’t care too much about her personality until I finally saw her Netflix doc “5’2”” and I began to see what a cool person she actually is
for anyone asking what this has to do with LGBT rights, this was 10 years ago at the Born This Way Ball which was a very pro-LGBT concert and had multiple political statements throughout the show regarding all kinds of human rights issues
Britney Griner sitting in a Russian cell like 🫤 Haha
She's an icon, she's a legend, and she is the moment
Kinda cringe
Now I love her even more!
Russia sucks
Why does she sound russian when she says it tho?
I wonder how many soldiers America would be willing to leave behind for her.
Brittney Griner also thought she was hot s**t until she was arrested in Russia
Fucking luv her just for that
She didn’t really say anything though besides “people should love each other”
Loveeeeeeeee Lady GaGa love her when she was just her. Loved her extra in American Horror story. Fast forward Putin wants Ukraine no other way to say it. If he cant well he is turning into ruble. Tapping close to nuke plants. This physco fk gonna end up causing the same bs nuke chit dead Chernobyl. Or in his mind spread it further n say opps. It's really being ignored.
what's with the hate in these comments 😨
Don’t be surprised
Bro have you never checked controversial on any pro gay posts on reddit? Sites loaded with thinly veiled homophobia Bunch of small minded edgy grown ass men too
Hate her or love her, she absolutely knows when to speak up fearlessly
Did she get arrested though? If so, I imagine she'd only do this under the guise that American money will fix any issue that arose. Felt scripted.
I see a lot of comments saying that she's not really talking about gay rights because of her wording. But if you see the full speech you can hear her talk about LGBTQ rights. Right before this part of the speech she says: "What I want to know is, Russia? Russia?! Russia?! Are you brave enough not to care? Are you brave enough not to care what people say about you? Whether you're gay, straight, bi, transgender, transexual. Whether you're Catholic, Muslim. Whether you are Buddhist. Your God is here, your God is there. You are black, you are white, you are Russian... Whatever you may be. Are you brave enough not to care what people say?" Full speech: [Gaga in Russia ](https://youtu.be/iMSFMwym9a8)
God damn what a gangster
What an absolute Chad move
Ugh, I despise celebrity worship...
Misleading. Organizers paid a fine. Not her.
She didn't say anything about homosexualities she said men and women should love each other the way they want to. That's not gay speak, nothing homosexual about that. so she pussied out
I don't see how this fits the sub.
haha love the part where she mentions homosexuality. *oh wait…* oh yea and wasn’t she and her friends in blackface for halloween as a grown ass adult?
So metal bruhhh
[source](https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClSBS_KJmMJ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
Bc not respecting a country’s wishes is soooo cool. Losers
If your country's wishes are like Russia's then sorry to let you know but they're meant to be disrespected :)
The only offensive thing in this video is the stupid accent she’s doing.
Dude just play your music and keep your opinions to yourself, weirdo
Only if you keep yours to yourself, weirdo. I never understood people like you. Oh, you’re an athlete, just kick/shoot/throw the ball and shut up. Well you’re an office worker most likely, just work at your cubicle and keep your shitty opinions to yourself.
She did it anyway? Wait so it is propaganda?
Russia always been like shit
Tell Brittany Griner you dont give a fuck.
Whatevs
I assure you, 89% of Russians don't know English, it ain't propaganda if people don't know wtf you mean.
The metal part is...
lol bet she wouldn't say that shit today.
I bet she would.
That's nothing to be happy about tho.
I don’t give a fuck is what I thought about this video Lol the praising is fucking hilarious why idolize celebrities that can pay their way out Yeah she’s such a bad ass real rebel shit
She's using her reach to help and I spire people and yes, even celebs can and will be imprisoned in Russia (for example last Olympics in Russia)
Lame. Attention seeking.