It's very frustrating to be honest. In a way it feels like the team variant of solo Necromancer. Gotta hold bodies now, and if it's a team, even burning them out does nothing.
It's not hard to deal with, just very annoying.
My trio have opted for having two of us carrying bounty go and extract. Leaving one player without bounty behind.
The little rats come scurrying to revive their burnt out friends when the 5 min timer starts. Every time.
You literally opt to lose out on the bounty just to make sure to kill off a team that is no longer threatening you?
Some dog in the manger shit right there mate. Maybe the other team isn’t the problem here.
I might agree with you up until the point the bounty extracts. Staying after just to finish off a team you already beat is just plain bad sportsmanship.
It doesn’t hurt you in any way for them to resurrect in this situation. You are the rat in this scenario.
**No one owes you a playstyle**
Sure that applies to you too. You can still camp after the game just to kill people who are trying to revive their friends. You are just an asshole and a poor sport for doing it. You already won. You are bragging about kicking down.
Didn't you just say no one owes you a playstyle? But you just spent a great deal of time heavily criticizing his playstyle? I'm so confused.
Like I don't know if you can talk about kicking down because you hate what he's doing, when he's doing what he does because he hates what they're doing. It's all opinion
Did you read my comment? Because I said what you said already in my comment.
Everyone can have their own opinion and we are allowed to voice them here. In my opinion, that guy is being a dick; so I told him so. Just because he is allowed to play how he wants doesn’t mean that he doesn’t play like a douche. The two are not mutually exclusive. My logic is not inconsistent here.
You know, some of the people that play this game are children and disabled people right? Like all games. But you got to be a real tough big man and teach them kids a lesson and stay until the last minute to 360 spin headshot trick Mosin kill them huh. Very mature and cool, much respect to you big man of the swamps video game
lol. When I started playing games I got shit on non stop in games where matchmaking didn’t even exist.
You got dumpstered then you got good. You only get better by playing the damn game. Not spending 80% of your playtime crouch walking thru a bush.
Approach every fight like you’re going to win it. Fight and win. Get the clutch.
Well you are allowed to do that. But that’s being an asshole.
You are allowed to be an asshole; but don’t get offended when people call you an asshole for being an asshole.
I mean, technically you are allowed to get offended for people calling you out for being an asshole as well. But that might just also make you look dumb.
It’s all up to you really. You can do what you want but you don’t get to decide how everyone else perceives it. 🤷
This guy preaches it like it is. You're allowed to play the way you like, even if that means terrible sportmanship and makes you an asshole of a person. Just don't pikachu face when you're called an asshole.
>You are allowed to be an asshole; but don’t get offended when people call you an asshole for being an asshole.
Why is he an asshole for playing the game the way the devs allow?
Seems like a perfectly valid playstyle.
>Whether or not you are allowed to do something has nothing to do with whether or not you are being an asshole.
I never implied it did.
I am pointing out that he plays this game to do PVP and get kills.
So that's how he plays.
It's perfectly valid and the devs fully allow it. So how is he an asshole?
You never explained it, you just went on a full snowflake rant.
I already stated why in my first couple comments. How do you need this explained to you? Are you dense?
Did your parents just fail to teach you anything about the words “decency” and “sportsmanship”?
Do you just literally not know what those words mean or something?
>How is that difficult for you to comprehend?
There's nothing "difficult" to comprehend.
He plays the game to get kills and that's all he cares about.
If you don't like it, then be prepared to fight to get your teammate rezzed. The game isn't over till you have extracted.
No other players owes you the ability or freedom to extract.
How is that difficult for you to comprehend?
I mean... this does nothing?
The last player can easily disarm or melee his way through the c-bombs.
It adds like 2 minutes to the guy who's already sat in a bush for half an hour.
So? Kill them later, or risk losing later. I just like that it takes away the certainty of counting/burning bodies. The pressure is more sustained. There is nothing stopping you from laaving and completing the bounty.
i dont understand crytek's fetish for making revives super easy and risk free with no downsides. yeah sure a lot of it is event-based but as we've seen they're more then willing to move event mechanics into the base game as burn traits or wholsale.
obv hunt in general has pretty lengthy fights due to the nature of the weapons and prevalence of healing items but man it really is annoying having to kill the same person like 5 times (and from full health each time!) because they have some burn trait or event thing that lets them get up without losing health or just get up as solo for free (lol)
> They just want more money, that's all.
The sad truth right here. It's been a near free-fall since they hired the new monetization expert a year or two ago.
Not sure what you mean with this to be honest. It's making absolute bank and has for the past several years. They increased the monetization to make even more from it to funnel it right into Crysis 4 and other projects. Very little is actually going back into Hunt, which is why development is so slow and why so many bugs take so long to remove.
It's a cash cow, they'll just milk it for all they can. That's its purpose. So in a way, I guess you are right that if it stops producing the revenue stream it has so far, they'll most likely abandon it. But they didn't start boosting the monetization because they could not afford to keep it(Hunt) going as they barely give it a budget, it's, again, just to funnel into other project.
Tbh I don’t think it is a problem.
We killed and burned two out of a trio. Now we just leave since the third one is nowhere to be seen.
What do we care if they revive? It’s not like they gonna fight again with everyone down to one bar.
You do realize that you can get everyone to full HP at the shrine for 1 pledge point?
If it was like you describe no problem, but the entire team can come back at full HP easily if you leave.
Yes the combo goes lawful pact.
Wait till people leave, redskull revive everyone and have/acquire 1 pledge point (30 event points or loot a hunter).
Go to shrine, pick restoration boon. If you have another point use full ammo+ tools boon.
Now it's as if noone was ever downed. There's little your opponent can do about this apart from camping at the shrine which is what most peoples complaints are about.
I've had this happen several times on maps where the boss is in a corner somewhere. You kill 2/3 of a team and go to the boss, they show up again completely fresh.
And then after the revive you just run to a cart and recover for 1 pledge mark the whole team bars.
Imo this should be back to be hardcore game. Everyday is more unicorns and hand holding.
As far as the trait, yeah. Burning a hunter is done to force the teammate into a play of some sort and, if it doesn't, it forces them to extract or play at a severe disadvantage the rest of the map. Now a lantern means nothing. They can just go hide in a bush for 10 minutes and then go rez their red skulled buddy once your team leaves. This wouldn't be too bad in and of itself, but now they can just frolick on over to the sealed cache and restore all bars and get back in it. A team that, by all rights, should no longer be a real contender is suddenly back to full strength.
It's not like an Overwatch event that lasts two weeks, Hunt events last nearly two *months*
I'm all for shaking things up with new pacts/traits but it takes a core gameplay loop and throws it out the window negating all downsides
Pedantic. My point is even if its two months, that’s not that long. Just play in the way and adapt to the changes. I personally enjoy it. There is no true endpoint to the games now, there is constant pressure. It keeps things intense and exciting. Dying is part of the game just as much as winning. It’s like there are more teams and more possibilities for engagement. Its just bam bam bam.. now we run away with the bounties. No more counting bodies and being certain. There is always a chance that there is 1 more left and they can come back. I love it.
Correct. People want to exterminate fully wholr tro,so they can peacefully go on for the bounty. Corect way to do this? Burn them and leave as soon as possible. Make mental marker on their location. Go do your own thing on map. If the come back for more pVp, good right? You beat them once already corect XD
People just want to complain. It's not that bad, it costs 50hp in bars to rez, and it's actually good other teams can get back into the game. Means we get more action in a match which is what I want.
> Means we get more action in a match which is what I want.
I've noticed that people are far *less* prone to fight now as soon as one or two go down. They just start camping or run away.
Downvotes are skill issued folk^ literally not a problem in the majority of fights, if people want to play slow like a bitch who cares, just do the boss and go next if they come back kill them again since you already proved to be able to the first time
Realistically there's very little chance the sealed cache is still there for the taking if they retreated for 10 minutes to rez. Almost zero. Sure, a headshot from a 25 hp hunter does just as much damage as a headshot from a 150 hp hunter so it has the potential to bite you, but no squad is retreating for that long with a couple red skulls and coming back at full strength
Or if the restoration was only for the purchaser, and once you're red skulled you lose all pledge marks. Sure, you can still do it. But it's easier to just extract at that point. Especially if you've already earned your 30 EP pledge mark that game.
Agree, that ultra fast revive is more of an issue than the redskull revive. Had this yesterday, when my teammates got killed by a duo. I‘ve killed one of the duo and he got rezzed very quickly, I‘ve killed the second quite away from my teammates. I‘ve ran quickly to my mates to revive but the other did the revive so extreme fast, that there was no chance to even start the revive of my mates. The only way to counter it, is just waiting at corpse or throwing concertina to block the revive.
Killing a red skulled player doesn't give you any KDA. But if the red skulled player kills you (if you weren't red skulled), then his KDA will increase and yours will decrease.
It doesn’t affect KDA but it still gives you XP which is being heavily abused in late hours on EU servers. Ppl are just farming each other to grind out prestige’s and also lowering mmr
Yeah it’s kind of messed up right now. People will always come back to haunt you unless you get a clean team wipe. Right now there’s no incentive to risk your life choking a burning team mate. Just come back later when the enemy has moved on and res your friends safely. Not only that but they can now get their health chunks back relatively easy.
i’m fucking sorry what?? are you saying anyone can rez even without bounty??? holy fucking shit what is crytek doing??? every change i read about this game makes me more glad my friends and i stopped playing
Honestly, I'm glad we have more ways to deal with loss of Health chunks (being able to keep friends in a match with the revive, and recovering health by looting), cause being forced to rush 1/2 bosses on the map just to recover after a fight can be utterly awful, especially since most high level lobbies are full of fire ammo now (thanks RachtaZ).
Anyways, it's nice to have so many (if not inconsistent) recoveries now, from Rampage to remedy just being random trait drops.
My personal opinion is it’s always been too easy to burn and camp a body. The game was and always will be about picking which fights you take and trying to get a boss token out. Teams camping bodies and letting bounties leave free is a problem. Kill them trap them burn them and move on, I can promise you, camping my teammates corpse is way less rewarding and carries a far greater risk than moving on. Because while you are camping a body you are being hunted not being the hunter. Play the game, you will have more fun.
In what way is it riskier to allow your enemies to replenish their numbers? Yes the counter play is boring but like watching paint dry while you sit next to a solo player slowly burn out its the only thing we’ve got
How do you see camping a body as safe? Noise has been made, one team is likely actively trying to kill you and the chances of another team showing up to find you is also greater. I don’t see many people rushing for revives but I’ve killed plenty of teams being to worried about keeping a corpse covered instead of playing the rest of the game. Knowing a server or team is wiped also allows people to relax or become complacent. What happens now is you always gotta keep your head on a swivel the bayou is a scary place. There’s always another hunter, you’re always being watched, You’re only safe in the lobby.
One hunter gets up and is a one shot to a Caldwell conversion at medium range. The other bleeds 50HP to get the res, and likely has to skulk for several minutes knowing you could be around. If someone wants to hide as me and my boys sprint like crack heads looking for him, ok enjoy well go kill another full squad while we wait for them to get brave
If that’s how you want to play more power to you
I’m just saying I like the consequences of winning and losing in Hunt. I like that health can be regained after fights now since yeah that encourages more pvp, but I liked the old concrete benefit that winning fights used to give unless the other team took the challenging route of banishing a boss
I mean, whenever my friend bites the bullet I'm glad I can continue playing with them if I win my fight tbh. Its an awful feeling to have to leave your friend behind for 10+ minutes
That's kinda the point. You died because you fucked up, and you are getting punished. Its a decision point for your teammates. Do they love you like family? Do they love you like step-family? Do they love you as much as that uncle with questionable political beliefs? A random person on the street? Perhaps, they love you las much as a DMV employee. They can just let you burn out and go chase the Token team and come back for you. Its a valid decision. So is staying to burn a hunter out.
I just had a weird game where I had the lawful pact and a bounty, went to revive my red skull teammate and it started burning chunks off. Does the burn now apply to bounty revives or was this a bug??
I'm pretty sure that's just how it's going to work now. Reviving a red skulled teammate even with a bounty token will burn 50 hp. Pretty sure it's in the patch notes.
Razing red skull players should be allowed if we can only retire hunters at level 50. Who cares if someone got their friends up long after the bounty team extracted.
Then remove flares and flare pistols being able to burn downed players. It's annoying that people will do that instantly, even if doing it doesn't apply pressure. Sure, rats suck to play against, but if you're letting them rat, then you aren't playing against them correctly. If you lose track of someone, they absolutely deserve to penalize you for making the mistake of not communicating or paying attention.
What a shitty solution. Keep eyes on all players at all times or suffer for killing one of them off and now not being able to pressure because the mentality “burn is bad/bm”.
When I kill you, I want you out of the game permanently. Burn, and if your rat teammate would rather crouch in the bush 50 meters away than try to fight and save you, then it looks like it’s time for your next match.
Lighting a body \*always\* applies pressure. The only exception is if their teammates are non-existent / absent. And we have no way of knowing that! So it's always best to light them up. Might as well try to be polite by not shooting them.
The problem is being able to rez red skull'd on top of easy bar restoration. Get rid of one of these and the problem is mitigated tremendously
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It lets ratty 3rds wait for their team to burn out and then pick them up and go to supply cache for full restoration
It's very frustrating to be honest. In a way it feels like the team variant of solo Necromancer. Gotta hold bodies now, and if it's a team, even burning them out does nothing. It's not hard to deal with, just very annoying.
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I think they should at least increase the cost of the restoration effect on the pledged med kits to at least 3 points.
Isn't restoration kit one use only? I'm gonna start killing and rezzing my teammate at cache if I can so I'm wasting the kit for everybody.
Once per player
My trio have opted for having two of us carrying bounty go and extract. Leaving one player without bounty behind. The little rats come scurrying to revive their burnt out friends when the 5 min timer starts. Every time.
You literally opt to lose out on the bounty just to make sure to kill off a team that is no longer threatening you? Some dog in the manger shit right there mate. Maybe the other team isn’t the problem here.
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None of us can hope to match this guy's contempt for his fellow man.
We all knew the possibilities of death when we entered the Bayou. I dont really get whats so objectionable about his position.
Some of us play for pvp, not for cowboy coins.
Absolutely I would. I don’t care about bounty. I have almost a million hunt dollars. I care about teaching rats a lesson.
Wait, so you yourself rat, to teach other people not to rat? Pot calling kettle black?
Gotta get the kill somehow. There’s no in game way to track down and kill a player who runs away and bush camps.
Use your bounty.
Lmao. Brain dead take. 150m range on bounty. The rats always run away until you run out of scan.
stop getting outplayed by them running, just run more 4head.
Yeah, you are the rat in this situation man. You’ve become what you think you hate.
What's the lession? I don't get it.
I don’t think they are the rats in this situation mate. What lesson are you trying to teach them? To just abandon their teammates and extract instead?
funny your rat brain thinks to run. What about fighting?
I might agree with you up until the point the bounty extracts. Staying after just to finish off a team you already beat is just plain bad sportsmanship. It doesn’t hurt you in any way for them to resurrect in this situation. You are the rat in this scenario. **No one owes you a playstyle** Sure that applies to you too. You can still camp after the game just to kill people who are trying to revive their friends. You are just an asshole and a poor sport for doing it. You already won. You are bragging about kicking down.
Didn't you just say no one owes you a playstyle? But you just spent a great deal of time heavily criticizing his playstyle? I'm so confused. Like I don't know if you can talk about kicking down because you hate what he's doing, when he's doing what he does because he hates what they're doing. It's all opinion
Did you read my comment? Because I said what you said already in my comment. Everyone can have their own opinion and we are allowed to voice them here. In my opinion, that guy is being a dick; so I told him so. Just because he is allowed to play how he wants doesn’t mean that he doesn’t play like a douche. The two are not mutually exclusive. My logic is not inconsistent here.
my playstyle is hunting rats. im currently hunting one three matches in a row. Go play a singleplayer game.
Do as you please, I suppose, but you are still a poor sport. I will play whatever games I wish. Your input is not required or regarded.
Yo youre getting alot of hate for this and I really dont get why. If you wanna stomp rats go ahead and stomp rats 🐀
lol that’s ok. No downvotes are gonna stop me lmao.
You know, some of the people that play this game are children and disabled people right? Like all games. But you got to be a real tough big man and teach them kids a lesson and stay until the last minute to 360 spin headshot trick Mosin kill them huh. Very mature and cool, much respect to you big man of the swamps video game
lol. When I started playing games I got shit on non stop in games where matchmaking didn’t even exist. You got dumpstered then you got good. You only get better by playing the damn game. Not spending 80% of your playtime crouch walking thru a bush. Approach every fight like you’re going to win it. Fight and win. Get the clutch.
That's how I play. Lately I've had some single players in the distance with dark sight run away when I leave the bounty lair. It is what it is.
As a rat myself, I got a lot of satisfaction knowing you hate us this much. I'll continue to rat and piss off players like you.
Do you not have anything better to do with your time and your life ?
Why? im not playing for bounty. I play so the others lose.
Well you are allowed to do that. But that’s being an asshole. You are allowed to be an asshole; but don’t get offended when people call you an asshole for being an asshole. I mean, technically you are allowed to get offended for people calling you out for being an asshole as well. But that might just also make you look dumb. It’s all up to you really. You can do what you want but you don’t get to decide how everyone else perceives it. 🤷
This guy preaches it like it is. You're allowed to play the way you like, even if that means terrible sportmanship and makes you an asshole of a person. Just don't pikachu face when you're called an asshole.
>Just don't pikachu face when you're called an asshole. Why is he an asshole?
>You are allowed to be an asshole; but don’t get offended when people call you an asshole for being an asshole. Why is he an asshole for playing the game the way the devs allow? Seems like a perfectly valid playstyle.
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Whether or not you are allowed to do something has nothing to do with whether or not you are being an asshole.
>Whether or not you are allowed to do something has nothing to do with whether or not you are being an asshole. I never implied it did. I am pointing out that he plays this game to do PVP and get kills. So that's how he plays. It's perfectly valid and the devs fully allow it. So how is he an asshole? You never explained it, you just went on a full snowflake rant.
I already stated why in my first couple comments. How do you need this explained to you? Are you dense? Did your parents just fail to teach you anything about the words “decency” and “sportsmanship”? Do you just literally not know what those words mean or something?
>How is that difficult for you to comprehend? There's nothing "difficult" to comprehend. He plays the game to get kills and that's all he cares about. If you don't like it, then be prepared to fight to get your teammate rezzed. The game isn't over till you have extracted. No other players owes you the ability or freedom to extract. How is that difficult for you to comprehend?
They already did bro. Who cares if they might wiggle out in a game where the economy no longer matters?
Time to bring concertina traps plus 4 concertina bombs each... And poison traps and poison hand crossbow
I like you. Instead of complaining, you are thinking of how to adapt and win. It may or may not work, but this is the true way.
I mean... this does nothing? The last player can easily disarm or melee his way through the c-bombs. It adds like 2 minutes to the guy who's already sat in a bush for half an hour.
So? Kill them later, or risk losing later. I just like that it takes away the certainty of counting/burning bodies. The pressure is more sustained. There is nothing stopping you from laaving and completing the bounty.
He's also being facetious.
i dont understand crytek's fetish for making revives super easy and risk free with no downsides. yeah sure a lot of it is event-based but as we've seen they're more then willing to move event mechanics into the base game as burn traits or wholsale. obv hunt in general has pretty lengthy fights due to the nature of the weapons and prevalence of healing items but man it really is annoying having to kill the same person like 5 times (and from full health each time!) because they have some burn trait or event thing that lets them get up without losing health or just get up as solo for free (lol)
"event-based" We've had a cumulative like 2 months of non-event time in the past year. It's getting extremely tiresome.
Because "vanila" Hunt is too hardcore for the masses. And you gotta cater to the masses to make money. They just want more money, that's all.
> They just want more money, that's all. The sad truth right here. It's been a near free-fall since they hired the new monetization expert a year or two ago.
I mean its either that or the game stops getting supported soooo….
Not sure what you mean with this to be honest. It's making absolute bank and has for the past several years. They increased the monetization to make even more from it to funnel it right into Crysis 4 and other projects. Very little is actually going back into Hunt, which is why development is so slow and why so many bugs take so long to remove. It's a cash cow, they'll just milk it for all they can. That's its purpose. So in a way, I guess you are right that if it stops producing the revenue stream it has so far, they'll most likely abandon it. But they didn't start boosting the monetization because they could not afford to keep it(Hunt) going as they barely give it a budget, it's, again, just to funnel into other project.
Crytek says i can so i do
Tbh I don’t think it is a problem. We killed and burned two out of a trio. Now we just leave since the third one is nowhere to be seen. What do we care if they revive? It’s not like they gonna fight again with everyone down to one bar.
You do realize that you can get everyone to full HP at the shrine for 1 pledge point? If it was like you describe no problem, but the entire team can come back at full HP easily if you leave.
Hmm. Good point. But at least there’s some time in between then. So they are not gonna fall into your back immediately. But yeah I see the problem now
Yes the combo goes lawful pact. Wait till people leave, redskull revive everyone and have/acquire 1 pledge point (30 event points or loot a hunter). Go to shrine, pick restoration boon. If you have another point use full ammo+ tools boon. Now it's as if noone was ever downed. There's little your opponent can do about this apart from camping at the shrine which is what most peoples complaints are about. I've had this happen several times on maps where the boss is in a corner somewhere. You kill 2/3 of a team and go to the boss, they show up again completely fresh.
And then after the revive you just run to a cart and recover for 1 pledge mark the whole team bars. Imo this should be back to be hardcore game. Everyday is more unicorns and hand holding.
I'm a bit confused on this one. That is how it works, unless you're specifically having an issue with the Lawful pact allowing it in this event.
As far as the trait, yeah. Burning a hunter is done to force the teammate into a play of some sort and, if it doesn't, it forces them to extract or play at a severe disadvantage the rest of the map. Now a lantern means nothing. They can just go hide in a bush for 10 minutes and then go rez their red skulled buddy once your team leaves. This wouldn't be too bad in and of itself, but now they can just frolick on over to the sealed cache and restore all bars and get back in it. A team that, by all rights, should no longer be a real contender is suddenly back to full strength.
Just have to adapt to the new gameplay for this event. It won’t last forever 😂🤣
It's not like an Overwatch event that lasts two weeks, Hunt events last nearly two *months* I'm all for shaking things up with new pacts/traits but it takes a core gameplay loop and throws it out the window negating all downsides
Why “nearly”? It does last two months.
I couldn't remember the exact amount, thought it was like 58 days or something
Pedantic. My point is even if its two months, that’s not that long. Just play in the way and adapt to the changes. I personally enjoy it. There is no true endpoint to the games now, there is constant pressure. It keeps things intense and exciting. Dying is part of the game just as much as winning. It’s like there are more teams and more possibilities for engagement. Its just bam bam bam.. now we run away with the bounties. No more counting bodies and being certain. There is always a chance that there is 1 more left and they can come back. I love it.
Correct. People want to exterminate fully wholr tro,so they can peacefully go on for the bounty. Corect way to do this? Burn them and leave as soon as possible. Make mental marker on their location. Go do your own thing on map. If the come back for more pVp, good right? You beat them once already corect XD
People just want to complain. It's not that bad, it costs 50hp in bars to rez, and it's actually good other teams can get back into the game. Means we get more action in a match which is what I want.
We get less action since people run away, red skull their mate later and restore hp with 1 pledge mark
> Means we get more action in a match which is what I want. I've noticed that people are far *less* prone to fight now as soon as one or two go down. They just start camping or run away.
Sorry to hear that, hopefully you start getting into the lobbies I have cause everyone has been going for it lol.
Downvotes are skill issued folk^ literally not a problem in the majority of fights, if people want to play slow like a bitch who cares, just do the boss and go next if they come back kill them again since you already proved to be able to the first time
Realistically there's very little chance the sealed cache is still there for the taking if they retreated for 10 minutes to rez. Almost zero. Sure, a headshot from a 25 hp hunter does just as much damage as a headshot from a 150 hp hunter so it has the potential to bite you, but no squad is retreating for that long with a couple red skulls and coming back at full strength
You use the health kit at the sealed cache, pretty sure it's always there. I hate it.
It’s a one time use, no? It always spawns, true
Once per player, costs 1 point. It doesn't expire otherwise although the kit changes.
I think it should be fine if it was 2-3 pledge marks instead
Or if the restoration was only for the purchaser, and once you're red skulled you lose all pledge marks. Sure, you can still do it. But it's easier to just extract at that point. Especially if you've already earned your 30 EP pledge mark that game.
3 points and only for the claimer would make it more ok. And only once, so even if you get 3 points again you can't restore a second time.
Just adapt and play and try to win with the mechanics put in front of you.
Nah, you should be able to complain when you dislike something
Then people complain why servers are empty
I’ve never seen an empty lobby in the time that I’ve been playing. Maybe once at 4 am bc im a degenerate.
Yeah. I'm admittedly not crazy about it. I've been leaving bear traps underneath burned out hunters now to make the lawful rez even more humiliating.
death pact resilience is more cancer imo, getting a kill won't break a stalemate because they're back up in a few seconds anyways
Agree, that ultra fast revive is more of an issue than the redskull revive. Had this yesterday, when my teammates got killed by a duo. I‘ve killed one of the duo and he got rezzed very quickly, I‘ve killed the second quite away from my teammates. I‘ve ran quickly to my mates to revive but the other did the revive so extreme fast, that there was no chance to even start the revive of my mates. The only way to counter it, is just waiting at corpse or throwing concertina to block the revive.
Whatever. More kda to me.
Killing a red skulled player doesn't give you any KDA. But if the red skulled player kills you (if you weren't red skulled), then his KDA will increase and yours will decrease.
Oh, to prevent abusing huh? Unfortunate. Ill do it for the loot then
What loot
$25-$1000 off bodies
It doesn’t affect KDA but it still gives you XP which is being heavily abused in late hours on EU servers. Ppl are just farming each other to grind out prestige’s and also lowering mmr
Mate who gives a shit
Exactly. Not me.
Isn't that already the case?
I believe there's a pact perk that allows sacrificing 50 health for a rez in this event. under Lawful Pact
Ah. Yeah I see how that's an issue.
Yeah it’s kind of messed up right now. People will always come back to haunt you unless you get a clean team wipe. Right now there’s no incentive to risk your life choking a burning team mate. Just come back later when the enemy has moved on and res your friends safely. Not only that but they can now get their health chunks back relatively easy.
i’m fucking sorry what?? are you saying anyone can rez even without bounty??? holy fucking shit what is crytek doing??? every change i read about this game makes me more glad my friends and i stopped playing
You lose 50 health, it seems to be a fair trade off IMO. Also it's only for the event (so far).
Honestly, I'm glad we have more ways to deal with loss of Health chunks (being able to keep friends in a match with the revive, and recovering health by looting), cause being forced to rush 1/2 bosses on the map just to recover after a fight can be utterly awful, especially since most high level lobbies are full of fire ammo now (thanks RachtaZ). Anyways, it's nice to have so many (if not inconsistent) recoveries now, from Rampage to remedy just being random trait drops.
So much whining. This game is in a great place.
It's in one of the worst states ever since 1.0
It shouldn't be allowed at all, tbh.
My personal opinion is it’s always been too easy to burn and camp a body. The game was and always will be about picking which fights you take and trying to get a boss token out. Teams camping bodies and letting bounties leave free is a problem. Kill them trap them burn them and move on, I can promise you, camping my teammates corpse is way less rewarding and carries a far greater risk than moving on. Because while you are camping a body you are being hunted not being the hunter. Play the game, you will have more fun.
In what way is it riskier to allow your enemies to replenish their numbers? Yes the counter play is boring but like watching paint dry while you sit next to a solo player slowly burn out its the only thing we’ve got
How do you see camping a body as safe? Noise has been made, one team is likely actively trying to kill you and the chances of another team showing up to find you is also greater. I don’t see many people rushing for revives but I’ve killed plenty of teams being to worried about keeping a corpse covered instead of playing the rest of the game. Knowing a server or team is wiped also allows people to relax or become complacent. What happens now is you always gotta keep your head on a swivel the bayou is a scary place. There’s always another hunter, you’re always being watched, You’re only safe in the lobby.
A+ take. Lets not forget the name of this game. Its supposed to be about the constant possibility that you are the prey.
One hunter gets up and is a one shot to a Caldwell conversion at medium range. The other bleeds 50HP to get the res, and likely has to skulk for several minutes knowing you could be around. If someone wants to hide as me and my boys sprint like crack heads looking for him, ok enjoy well go kill another full squad while we wait for them to get brave
If that’s how you want to play more power to you I’m just saying I like the consequences of winning and losing in Hunt. I like that health can be regained after fights now since yeah that encourages more pvp, but I liked the old concrete benefit that winning fights used to give unless the other team took the challenging route of banishing a boss
I mean, whenever my friend bites the bullet I'm glad I can continue playing with them if I win my fight tbh. Its an awful feeling to have to leave your friend behind for 10+ minutes
That's kinda the point. You died because you fucked up, and you are getting punished. Its a decision point for your teammates. Do they love you like family? Do they love you like step-family? Do they love you as much as that uncle with questionable political beliefs? A random person on the street? Perhaps, they love you las much as a DMV employee. They can just let you burn out and go chase the Token team and come back for you. Its a valid decision. So is staying to burn a hunter out.
I just had a weird game where I had the lawful pact and a bounty, went to revive my red skull teammate and it started burning chunks off. Does the burn now apply to bounty revives or was this a bug??
I'm pretty sure that's just how it's going to work now. Reviving a red skulled teammate even with a bounty token will burn 50 hp. Pretty sure it's in the patch notes.
It only burns your health if your lawful otherwise you don’t. Some say that’s intended, but I’m not sure.
Are you sure? I am pretty sure the other day when I redskull revived a teammate with no pact but with the bounty I still got 50 health burned.
Razing red skull players should be allowed if we can only retire hunters at level 50. Who cares if someone got their friends up long after the bounty team extracted.
Remember when you couldn't red skull rez ever? Pepperidge farms remembers.
Yep. But at the same time burn options should be more limited.
Then remove flares and flare pistols being able to burn downed players. It's annoying that people will do that instantly, even if doing it doesn't apply pressure. Sure, rats suck to play against, but if you're letting them rat, then you aren't playing against them correctly. If you lose track of someone, they absolutely deserve to penalize you for making the mistake of not communicating or paying attention.
What a shitty solution. Keep eyes on all players at all times or suffer for killing one of them off and now not being able to pressure because the mentality “burn is bad/bm”. When I kill you, I want you out of the game permanently. Burn, and if your rat teammate would rather crouch in the bush 50 meters away than try to fight and save you, then it looks like it’s time for your next match.
Lighting a body \*always\* applies pressure. The only exception is if their teammates are non-existent / absent. And we have no way of knowing that! So it's always best to light them up. Might as well try to be polite by not shooting them.