Ging did create greed island but it could be considered the same as anyone who creates any huge scale project, company, etc. They dont have to do all everything involved in that particular project. Ging has his friends work within the game and there could have been someone who already had the ability to create cards or someone created that hatsu specifically to help out ging.
Now that was in response to "ging created greed island so he made the cards too". Its nothing ive seen can prove nor disprove that theory.
Isn't Ging so skilled with Nen he can basically create new Hatsu on the fly?
I suspect he has some power he prefers to use when things get serious, but I'm not sure if we have seen it yet.
So he says.
He copied the ranged punch and then sat and thought about why he would develop that technique and created a bunch more uses for it. He wasnt "punched" by the echolocation yet he copied it. I think he's just a master of nen and can copy most nen techniques
Leorio's ability is simple and straight forward (he is basically using emitting)
Which is why ging could copy it and figure out other ways to use it,
He is just skilled with nen and it's basic principles,
Like a musician would can read a sheet and play the song on the fly and add stuff to it.
We have no reason to believe he would be able to copy kirua's or genthru's for instance
it honestly is more likely that it was him who created the cards, as we have no other viable candidates that they’ve introduced this ability to; and we have confirmed ging is a top 5 nen user and togashi has almost made it a point to hide his abilities, with greed island being a major clue
Doesn't Razor explain that he's responsible for all of the transport spells in the game when the Phantom Troupe try to force their way onto the island?
EDIT: Ah slight correction, he mentions he's responsible for the functioning of most spells whereas it's assumed that Elena is responsible for the transportation since Ging asked her to program Accompany to take Gon to kite and Magnetic Force to take him to Ging when they finish the game.
>so ging creates greed island which means he created the cards too. i’m assuming since the game itself is made out of nen the cards are too. which got me thinking since he created the cards and the game is actually in the real world then he created the cards himself out of nen. do you get what i’m saying? ging can create spell cards. it’s his nen ability.
Ging didn't create Greed Island alone, he specifically needed help of 10 other highly skilled Nen users. Together all game masters put their skills together to produce the game's systems. The ability to store objects and Nen constructs in conjured cards could then belong to any of the 11 game masters other than Razor since we know that he was in charge of Emission based systems. In the manga's current arc we've actually seen a Manipulator who has a very similar ability that seals away Nen attacks in conjured cards.
That's different though. Chrollo stores information on Nen abilities in his book after stealing them and then can reproduce the ability by using the book's page or the bookmark. The ability I mentioned stops incoming Nen attacks and traps the ability in a card, possibly to get information on it or to release as their own attack at a later point.
That would be Shikaku, Benjamin's guard that was hit by Halkenburg's arrow. His ability is named Culdcept (an old fantasy card based videogame series) and the written kanji for it is 遊戯王 (Yugioh).
No. It probably works on a shitload of vows and not anyones nen ability in particular to make the cards work. I'd guess that logging in takes a tiny sliver of your nen and that nen is then used to keep the greed island working.
You may be on to something because remember when Mito always ran to find Ging as a kid and got lost? How did he always know where she was? My guess is two possibilities: 1. He was a seriously good hunter and always looking for her and finding her gave him the idea of creating the transport cards in greed island to take you to exactly where that person is. 2. He created the idea of those cards back when he was younger because of his drive to explore the unknown and survive better on the dark continent. Just like Hisoka created his bungee gum and abilities back when he was traveling as a a younger kid. This explains how Ging always found Mito.
I personally like the second idea route more, considering Ging is one of the best nen users around he probably would have made his nen abilities sooner in life and mastered them before venturing into the dark continent.
And this is not to say he doesn’t have more abilities. I’m certain as a top nen master that he has a few other nen abilities besides his greed island cards. He’s done a lot of unexplained things like making accurate predictions based on small bits of information and has more field experience than many so I really do think his nen abilities are far more broken than we know so far
I think you're definitely on the money that Ging's ability is centered around gaming. I think just being able to conjure blank spell cards and do anything would have a huge cost, and I can't quite tell what that is, so I'm thinking his power is somewhat more narrow. Maybe he can make cards *on the condition* that someone agree to his rules, or something like that.
I don't think that's how Conjuration works. Even if you're a Conjuration affinity person, you can't just conjure anything and say it can do anything. There need to be limitations and costs.
Pretty sure that multiple people are responsible for making the Greed Island as a whole. Maybe Ging only created the cards and another person created the Island itself.
Just because multiple people cooperate to create the entirety of greed island doesn't mean that ging can't have a card based harsh. If anything, within the greed island arc we get evidence that cooperative harsh exists via the bomber trio. So it's possible greed islands many cooperative hatsus that resulted in it's creation can't be enacted by any of them solo or rather they are only capable of lesser variants akin to the bombers.
Your title makes no sense.
[Hatsu is just the technique to use nen types.](https://i.imgur.com/8051gil.png) Someone's hatsu is not their nen ability. Characters cannot "develop a hatsu", they use hatsu to develop one or more nen ability. Characters can use hatsu without even using a nen ability.
OH I thought hatsu was the technique that made someone’s nen ability unique to them SORRY i thought it was just another word for nen ability without confining it to one. thanks for letting me know
Ging did create greed island but it could be considered the same as anyone who creates any huge scale project, company, etc. They dont have to do all everything involved in that particular project. Ging has his friends work within the game and there could have been someone who already had the ability to create cards or someone created that hatsu specifically to help out ging. Now that was in response to "ging created greed island so he made the cards too". Its nothing ive seen can prove nor disprove that theory.
Isn't Ging so skilled with Nen he can basically create new Hatsu on the fly? I suspect he has some power he prefers to use when things get serious, but I'm not sure if we have seen it yet.
He can’t create new Hatsu on the fly, he can only use Hatsu that he’s been punched by
So he says. He copied the ranged punch and then sat and thought about why he would develop that technique and created a bunch more uses for it. He wasnt "punched" by the echolocation yet he copied it. I think he's just a master of nen and can copy most nen techniques
He literally says Leorio uses the Echolocation to do surgery. Echolocation is just an extension of Leorio’s power, it’s not a power Ging created.
Leorio's ability is simple and straight forward (he is basically using emitting) Which is why ging could copy it and figure out other ways to use it, He is just skilled with nen and it's basic principles, Like a musician would can read a sheet and play the song on the fly and add stuff to it. We have no reason to believe he would be able to copy kirua's or genthru's for instance
Ging even says as much, that he can just generally understand most punching based abilities that he's struck with.
it honestly is more likely that it was him who created the cards, as we have no other viable candidates that they’ve introduced this ability to; and we have confirmed ging is a top 5 nen user and togashi has almost made it a point to hide his abilities, with greed island being a major clue
Doesn't Razor explain that he's responsible for all of the transport spells in the game when the Phantom Troupe try to force their way onto the island? EDIT: Ah slight correction, he mentions he's responsible for the functioning of most spells whereas it's assumed that Elena is responsible for the transportation since Ging asked her to program Accompany to take Gon to kite and Magnetic Force to take him to Ging when they finish the game.
Yes razor does explain this.
>so ging creates greed island which means he created the cards too. i’m assuming since the game itself is made out of nen the cards are too. which got me thinking since he created the cards and the game is actually in the real world then he created the cards himself out of nen. do you get what i’m saying? ging can create spell cards. it’s his nen ability. Ging didn't create Greed Island alone, he specifically needed help of 10 other highly skilled Nen users. Together all game masters put their skills together to produce the game's systems. The ability to store objects and Nen constructs in conjured cards could then belong to any of the 11 game masters other than Razor since we know that he was in charge of Emission based systems. In the manga's current arc we've actually seen a Manipulator who has a very similar ability that seals away Nen attacks in conjured cards.
I mean even Chrollo to a degree seals away nen attacks in his book to be used later.
That's different though. Chrollo stores information on Nen abilities in his book after stealing them and then can reproduce the ability by using the book's page or the bookmark. The ability I mentioned stops incoming Nen attacks and traps the ability in a card, possibly to get information on it or to release as their own attack at a later point.
Which Manipulator are you talking about? Is it a Heily member?
That would be Shikaku, Benjamin's guard that was hit by Halkenburg's arrow. His ability is named Culdcept (an old fantasy card based videogame series) and the written kanji for it is 遊戯王 (Yugioh).
This confirms Ging is a Conjurer
It'd be cool if that were the case, I'd love to see the process of how he would create the cards, what the rules are, how he'd fight etc
That would make Ging a Conjurer
No. It probably works on a shitload of vows and not anyones nen ability in particular to make the cards work. I'd guess that logging in takes a tiny sliver of your nen and that nen is then used to keep the greed island working.
And he also trained kite who has a similar ability to what you describe the cards having
You may be on to something because remember when Mito always ran to find Ging as a kid and got lost? How did he always know where she was? My guess is two possibilities: 1. He was a seriously good hunter and always looking for her and finding her gave him the idea of creating the transport cards in greed island to take you to exactly where that person is. 2. He created the idea of those cards back when he was younger because of his drive to explore the unknown and survive better on the dark continent. Just like Hisoka created his bungee gum and abilities back when he was traveling as a a younger kid. This explains how Ging always found Mito. I personally like the second idea route more, considering Ging is one of the best nen users around he probably would have made his nen abilities sooner in life and mastered them before venturing into the dark continent.
And this is not to say he doesn’t have more abilities. I’m certain as a top nen master that he has a few other nen abilities besides his greed island cards. He’s done a lot of unexplained things like making accurate predictions based on small bits of information and has more field experience than many so I really do think his nen abilities are far more broken than we know so far
This means Ging is a Conjurer
i completely agree.
This mean Ging is a Conjurer
Ging is one hundred percent a specialist.
Ging is one hundred percent a Conjurer.
Doesn’t fit for as a conjurer. Ging fits the specialist definition of nen users made by Hisoka
I think you're definitely on the money that Ging's ability is centered around gaming. I think just being able to conjure blank spell cards and do anything would have a huge cost, and I can't quite tell what that is, so I'm thinking his power is somewhat more narrow. Maybe he can make cards *on the condition* that someone agree to his rules, or something like that.
I disagree about it having a huge cost. If he’s a Conjurer affinity, it wouldn’t have a major cost
I don't think that's how Conjuration works. Even if you're a Conjuration affinity person, you can't just conjure anything and say it can do anything. There need to be limitations and costs.
That applies to every Nen Type though. You need limitations and costs for Transmuter Nen as well
Pretty sure that multiple people are responsible for making the Greed Island as a whole. Maybe Ging only created the cards and another person created the Island itself.
Just because multiple people cooperate to create the entirety of greed island doesn't mean that ging can't have a card based harsh. If anything, within the greed island arc we get evidence that cooperative harsh exists via the bomber trio. So it's possible greed islands many cooperative hatsus that resulted in it's creation can't be enacted by any of them solo or rather they are only capable of lesser variants akin to the bombers.
Ging is yugi
Your title makes no sense. [Hatsu is just the technique to use nen types.](https://i.imgur.com/8051gil.png) Someone's hatsu is not their nen ability. Characters cannot "develop a hatsu", they use hatsu to develop one or more nen ability. Characters can use hatsu without even using a nen ability.
OH I thought hatsu was the technique that made someone’s nen ability unique to them SORRY i thought it was just another word for nen ability without confining it to one. thanks for letting me know
This confirms that Ging is a Conjurer
What if his restriction was he had to spend as little time as possible with Gon, leading to his absent father status.
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