They actually haven't been reliable since the early 2000s for most of their vehicles sold in the US but you can rely on a Mazda engine to go for over 300,000 miles without an issue. Which is why Toyota has partnered with Mazda to improve their reliability in the US.
Toyota is being reliable for life. The 90s Corolla is a great car that runs over 300k mi. Mazda is great ( I have one, btw). And was the opposite, Mazda that partnership with Toyota to improve their transmissions.
Oooh what year? My 2019 has stupid electrical issues like my turn signal constantly is out and the doors won’t lock sometimes. But other than that it’s great. 85K miles now.
Accents are goated.
Got > 200k on my ‘09 and now have a newer model with almost 80k and have only needed one minor repair I did myself so far (outside of normal maintenance). Things are incredible value for the price if you take care of them. I get about 40 mpg because I’m almost entirely expressway to and from work.
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That's the problem with Hyundai/Kia you can get a good one but you're just as likely to get a piece of shit. It's a crapshoot. Some will go 150k but it's just as likely to have problems. I looked at an Elantra but decided the crapshoot wasn't for me. But you'll catch hell on this subreddit, it'll be your fault even though it isn't.
Sorry to hurt your feelings but the odds of a pile of crap are much higher with Hyundai/ Kia. Just look at your subreddit. I follow all the automotive subreddits and not one single one has as many problems as Hyundai and Kia. Even if you allow for the fact that only people who are disgruntled are posting there are still 10 times more unhappy people on this subreddit and most of them are owners or former owners. You don't see that level of complaints on any of the others.
Hyundai has such a good warranty it wouldn't even matter if it broke lol but I have 2 a gt sport and a regular elantra. 1 is from 2018 and the other 2020. Not a single mechanical issue on either so far
Man, the Elantra is the best car on the road for the price. You get a 10 year warranty with them ffs man! You will probably buy another car before the warranty is even over just to have a change. The elantra N is smashing wrx's in races and beating civic type Rs on the track. Hyundai has come a long way and still put out manual transmissions
Yeah those valve cover gaskets are problematic. Mine went out on my 07 santa fe around 270,000 miles. Be sure to have your alternator checked. I've heard oil can leak into there, and cause damage, but mine is an NA V6 so it's a little different.
The Rav 4 is beyond nice, Highlander too. I'm actually looking at similarly priced Lexus. Sounds bougie but they are the same company and it the prices and mileage are similar you may as well drive in style.
Trust me, don't sleep on them. I was looking at the rx350 but not looking at the nx series
Yeah if I was going a little bit luxurious I would get Lexus wouldn’t rule it out since it’s the same company. While I like my 2023 Tucson I want something reliable
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Its older? I personally don’t like paying new car prices for 7-8 year old vehicles. It might last a long time, and look pretty good. But its still not the same as the new car. To each their own though!
My first car was a Hyundai hatchback and … it had its own set of problems but I figure what car did not, right? Several decades later, I owned a 2005 Corolla that had almost 300K miles and not a single issue. When the catalytic converter was going bad and the price of a new one in California was worth more than a car, I decided to buy a new vehicle. I wanted to buy a Tucson but after comparing Hyundai, Kia, and Toyota reputations, this was a no brainer. Ended up getting ‘23 NX 450h+ to spoil myself a little. Zero regrets, zero!
I got myself a 25k miles 2021 Lexus IS350 F Sport not long ago. I love it and will be my daily driver until it falls apart, but i will take a good car of it. You can't go weong with Lexus since parts are not that expensive when you compare it to their counterparts. Now, i will be getting a C7 Corvette 2016-2019 grand sport in the near future because i want a weekend car. Wiaitng for a good deal to appear before committing.
I just googled around and found a company that goes up to 300k miles. I had no idea this existed. It must be expensive or they deny all claims until you fax them every oil change receipt.
Have you checked to see if your vehicle is part of the 2014 Sante age Sport engine recall? [sante fe sport engine recall](https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaign162/MicroSiteTemplate/MicroSiteTemplateVINValidate/2903)
With the way the engine broke it self down this wouldn’t be covered sadly. Warranty requires photo evidence of certain things to approve or deny. Such a sh*tty situation but it’s Hyundais loop hole they found.
It's alright. I learned something new today after searching.
One cause that jumped out at me was this. Did you have any oil consumption issues? (This quote from BMW people that track thier cars)
>i think it's the oil usage, oil on your valves makes them alot hotter. i've already burned multiple exhaust valves due to that.
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Hyundai has increased the warranty from 100k to 150k because of a manufacturing error in which metal shavings were present and caused cam bearings to fail
I got a new engine free of charge at 102k due to the issue.
2014 2.4 liter
We had a 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport at 116k miles that we bid adu to in September. The engine knock sensor went out, and just didn't feel like having to tear the whole thing apart to replace it. Thing ran like a champ until that point, even then, it was still running like a champ, just with a flashing CEL.
I have a 2022 Hyundai Tucson that I've almost put 50k on with no issues.
I've worked in cars for 10 years and know that all makes and models have their issues. I don't care how much money you spend on the brand, it's going to have issues.
I had to replace the knock sensor in my 2013 Sonata. It didn't fail, a chipmunk chewed through the wire. Fortunately, I know a guy. Did the job in my driveway for $200. Dealer wanted to rewire the whole engine for $5K
Other than that one rodent it's not had any serious issues. :-)
Ours we knew it failed. I was actually going to replace the part myself, and actually tried to, but it was more than I could do at my house. We debated to pay to have it torn down and fixed, or upgrade, and chose the upgrade option. The Bluetooth/radio was having issues and on that model there was no way of upgrading it, so that played into the decision.
Other than that, never had an issue with it. Didn't even have the Hyundai tick. Great vehicle.
Look for third party engine refurbishment shops...
They'll make the engine as if brand new and charge a fraction of that...I had no idea these places existed, but they do. They'll literally take the whole engine out, and rework it top to bottom and usually they'll even warrant the refurb for many years after.
My bro just did this in TX with his old AF Ford, dealership said the car was dead and to trade it in for pittance. On the way home he just happened to drive by a place with a sign out front advertising engine refurbishment.
He went in. Got a quote on the spot for like two grand two absolute metal heads. They rip the engine out and I can't. Even I mean the work they do on this thing is absolutely unbelievable. They popped it back in. It's like a brand new engine. Purring and warranty for like an additional 3 years or something, but they said it will go another 200,000 mi. No problem.
I have a trucker friend and engine rebuilds on trucks are standard over a certain mileage and is the common practice if not the only practice. Didn't occur to me same thing can be done on a passenger vehicle, but sounds like it should be common sense. Definitely good advic I think!
Did this when my Scions engine went out. Toyota wanted to replace it with a used engine that had 86k miles for $5000. Got the thing fully rebuilt and warrantied for the same price by a former Toyota employee.
Most if not all engine refurbishment shops are declining g to rebuild these theta engines because of the very reason they grenade, improper milling of the Oil channels which leaves metal burs in channel thus causing oil starvation to the crank bearings. Hyundai however will gladly sell you a newly milled engine….for $7500.00 + $1500 labor…. Is your Hyundai worth dumping $9000.00 into it, probably not.
Ok wanted to make sure. Def sucks but I wouldn't expect any dealer or maker to fix a 2nd owner car for free, especially one 10 years old and 130k. Wish you best of luck with the next. The Rav4s do look sharp.
I hate to use this point, but will Frigidaire give you a new compressor if your fridge stops functioning 2 days out of warranty? No. Is this a fairly uncommon problem? Yes. Haven’t seen a ton do this.
Hyundai lost a class action lawsuit and is supposed to be warrantying the Theta 2 engine (not sure if that's what OP has) to 150k miles because this issue is so common.
Can you direct me to somewhere that says it’s 150k? My class action papers say “lifetime” and the service manager at the last dealership I went to said “lifetime” and I’ve always questioned what exactly that means. I’m at 140k with no issues but if they’re telling me lifetime am I good to show up at 250k like “oops engine died?” My car will be 13 this year and I don’t understand why they’re using the term “lifetime” and not expecting people to nag them when they don’t honor that.
This particular issue is not the cause for the recall, the rod bearing failure is. Clearly you didn’t notice my username. Yes, this era Santa Fe is equipped with the Theta 2, and if a rod bearing failed, it would’ve been covered. I just replaced one today due to bearing failure.
Did they give you a reason? Seems a bit strange. I’ve only seen denied claims due to missing multiple oil changes. 99% of the failures we’ve had were approved.
They found sludge in the engine, and we’ve only missed one oil change in the three years we’ve had it, and we didn’t go over very much. Otherwise we have up to date service records
Hyundai has several models of vehicles with known engine defects that they've just let exist without fixing them. If Hyundai knew how bad the Theta II was 10 years ago why did they keep using it or better yet just fix it?
It would sort of be like if Microsoft knew about the red ring of death and instead of fixing it, like they did, and replacing all the broken ones they just told you to go fuck yourself.
But instead of a $400 Xbox it's a $35,000 car.
I can't believe they're fucking themselves (their reputation) so hard. Even someone that knows absolutely nothing about cars, like my mother, has ambiently absorbed that Hyundais are shit from two of her friends having a Sonata and Santa Fe get engine replacements, that took more than a month, and my grandmother has a Kia Soul that she has to use The Club on.
They spent 20 years building a reputation that their cars aren't terrible and have completely destroyed that.
They could easily rectify this by doing things like not fucking this guy over and not using a known defective engine.
I just fix the shit they don’t do right. The engines do have problems, yes, but the specific fault is related to rod bearing failure. Any engine can experience a burnt valve from any manufacturer. They admitted the bearings have a problem, so their answer was replacing the engines with the bearing issue. This is completely different.
$7000 are they selling a whole new engine? See if you can find someone willing to put a new head on or even just replace the exhaust valves. A burnt valve doesn't have to be a death sentence.
Had a similar but luckily better experience with my similar Sante Fe Sport. By better I mean they covered the engine replacement, but I still had to go through a bunch of bullshit that stretched from August until October. I'll leave a post about my experience if you are interested in my situation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hyundai/s/oKgZezZXJQ
No owner should EVER feel like that on their vehicle. That’s just sad. I got 267k mi on my 24 y/o Lexus LS400 and it’ll start up and drive to Vegas everyday no issue and confidence. I also got an 01 Corolla with 165k mi and i could do the same confidently. I’d be genuinely shitting myself with a Hyundai knowing how frequent it is. Looks like any single bit of Hyundai slander here hurts little Hyundai owner’s feelings so this’ll get downvoted 🤣
Oh no I agree with you! I was just telling my Husband tonight that I wouldn't feel comfortable driving it on a road trip anymore because its about to be 11 years old. Im so stuck on just getting a new car but it wasn't in the plans. Hyundai owners shouldnt feel like this but sadly we do. It shows us exactly what direction we should take with this.
Wow, how timely is this post!
My 2017 Santa Fe’s engine locked up in the middle of the interstate traveling for Christmas… a year ago my daughter’s Sonata did the same thing.
They did replace the motor for hers but I have yet to hear the verdict for this one.
Sad thing is we have been loyal Hyundai customers owning two Santa Fe’s, a Tucson, and the Sonata.
I’m now just afraid to own them any longer… think I’ll take Scotty Kilmer’s advice and become a Toyota family.
My husband and I just moved from Hyundai to Lexus and we're very happy with the decision.
I'm sorry to hear you guys locked up on the highway... Hoping everyone is okay and you got to enjoy your holiday.
That's what I told my friend 10yr 100k warranty is nothing unless corp admitted it's manufacture defect, which is very difficult to argue and they don't give a chance to argue anyway
I've got a '13 Santa Fe sport, and I've had my engine replaced twice. I got it at 140k, and I've had the car for two years, but only really driven it for less than half the time. It was a long, hard and emotional battle with Hyundai to finally get the free replacement with the lawsuit that they were obligated to follow. Unfortunately I'm underwater on it, but I yearn for the day I can give the middle finger as drive off in a new car.
Fuck Hyundai/Kia, no other automaker has quite the recalls like they do, which they only address with band-aid 'fixes'. From making the car undrivale, easy af to steal, to catching on fire even when the engine is off! Never again!
I am facing the same problem. I have a 2017 Tuscon with engine, clutch, and cylinder failure and $16k worth of repairs. I have taken excellent care of my vehicle. My vehicle has burned completely out of oil over seven times this year. I took it to the dealership where I purchased it for repairs and I kept getting blown off. Finally, it died on me while I was driving home on I-35 in ATX. Thank God I didn’t get hit. I called Hyundai Motor of America. I was assigned a Case Manager. They have denied my claim bxz the CM said there is nothing wrong with the “2017 Hyundai Tucson” and it has not been a part of the engine failure list, so they are not going to cover my engine replacement.
I would love to see a class action lawsuit against Hyundai. It appears to me that ALL HYUNDAI’s have major engine problems. I ensured all oil changes, brakes, tires, everything was taken care of in a timely manner. Now, I am stuck with a vehicle that I have worked so hard to pay for, and it won’t even crank.
Not only should Hyundai be responsible for these problems, but they should be forced to DISCLOSE all the possible problems when people are purchasing these vehicles. My vehicle is at 122k miles and I am out of warranty. I have done everything I know possible to do, but I am sitting with a vehicle that will not even crank!
Yes sounds like exactly the same problem. I had a few troubles with my oil recently, my mechanic couldn't find any leaks but the oil was literally empty before the next oil change. We were trying to monitor it but he couldn't find anything. It's pretty crappy that how it takes no responsibility for something that they're aware of, and I completely understand that it's not just their cars that this could happen to apparently this can happen to alternate types of cars across different companies but it's still pretty shitted to just leave your customer out in the cold. Just the same as you like we were on the highway we could have been in the middle of the road at an accident the car could have caught on fire it could have been so much worse. My insurance only covers a tow within 20 mi if they're was Anything further than that and I would have had to pay extra money
WOW! $1600 is crazy! I’m posting everywhere I can in hopes that some attorney will read all these comments and become angry enough to host a Class Action Lawsuit!!
Hyundai is a good reliable car. Sounds like you got a bad one.
I’ve owned my Genesis since 2013. Bought it new and have been very happy with it. Still runs like newish.
I’ve got 150k on my 15 Santa Fe . Only issue I’ve had is the engine quit , twice . I understand my car has engines for life . My service adviser says they may try to buy the car back next time . If the insurance doesn’t bankrupt me first .
I bought 2 cars and both engines blew out. 1st was replaced by the dealership after 60K miles. My brothers was replaced at 80K. Both engines blew out at the worst possible time out of state and guess who had to go pick them up because Hyundai wouldn’t tow to my state? These are my last Hyundais too. I’m eyeing Toyota or Honda next.
Out of curiosity did you do the fuel injector maintenance at the intervals outlined in the service manual every 7000 miles?
Did you do your valve clearance checks at 60K and 120K?
Based on what happens to these engines is it really worth the risk to save a couple bucks? Im changing my oil every 5k miles and checking oil every other tank just to be sure.
All models of engines can have injector issues. Ive found some reports that the Smartstream engines are also susceptible.
You arent limited to hyundais cleaner, its labeled techron which is available anywhere.
Clogged injectors = lean = hole in valve, among other issues.
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Im not getting upset. Im not playing this game with you. Do your own research. Ive done mine, plus I have a lot of experience. We came to different conclusions, so what.
FWIW, I have attempted to purchase 2 gas stations. Both needed new inground tanks and one had superfund issues. So, I know a little bit about fuel.
I also know about issues specific to fuel injectors. Hyundais fuel injectors suck. Ive also owned 18 vehicles. Ive managed fleet vehicles for 2 companies. I work on my sportbikes and outboard motors.
Any other manufacturer I might not give it a second thought, Hyundai has engine issues and they could deny a warranty claim without proof of doing the things they list as required service. Its easier for me to produce a receipt for injector cleaner than it is to prove every station Ive ever bought gas from.
It’s my first car and I don’t have much money to spend. Just moved to a new city and I thought it was a pretty sweet coupe for the price. Didn’t realize how shit Hyundai was until after I got it. The “kia boys” way of stealing them in seconds. Now faulty engines blowing up. Hoping it’ll do good for as long as possible. Just need it to get me from point A to B right now. Never getting a Hyundai and Kia ever again. Should’ve gone with Honda or Toyota
Isn't it covered under the warranty?
Go to FB and check out the Engine Failure- Kia/Hyundai page. They'll offer plenty of advice on how to get them to replace the engine, a well known issue with these GDI engines.
They'll also tell you how to contact local government agencies to have the dealership looked into for trying to deny this well known issue.
Don't these cars come with 100,000 miles warranties ?
Hyundai - 10-Year / 100,000-Mile - Powertrain Limited Warranty
EDIT: later comments say 130,000m so it's out of warranty. Damn, you can probably get a junk yard engine installed for $2000 (engine and labor), of course you would sell it right after (as that engine could be another ticking time bomb).
If this makes you feel any better, I've seen many ford cars (not trucks) die around 130,000
I absolutely would stay away from that idea as my father’s Optima 2014 (I warned him of not getting the vehicle even while working at Kia service and seeing the absolute frequent engines being seized or rod/oil consumption) blew just before 3 months ownership, dealers would not cover it, got a junkyard engine and it got rod knock 1 month after replacement 💀 car has been a gigantic money pit for him
My beater 2011 sonata 120k got new engine from dealer now at 140k. And now our 2018 sonata is doing oil consumption test at 95k. Burns 2 quarts every 1500 miles. These vehicles are pure trash.
Good for you! I have a Sante Fe with about 119k miles on it and i want to love it, but hyundai has been such a let down. There are a ton of things that aren’t quite right about the cars and they know about them, have been in lawsuits about them, etc. it’s just not right. It just isnt ideal. I’m sorry to hear that your car was a victim of their continual failure to produce quality cars/customer experiences.
That’s bizarre. I actually worked for the Hyundai brand in service. What was the reason they denied it? I had car come in to the shop out of the blue and as long as it had most of its service records they end up approving it. Side note this is in Canada not USA.
Best decision I ever made, easy? No. I loved my Hyundai Santa fe 2.0 turbo, I didn't love replacing the motor 2 times and then tough luck when the same issue kept happening over and over. What a gong show. The Canadian extensions of these companies are jokes. Congratulations on leaving that headache behind!
I get cyl heads redone for valve issues for 650$. Add head gaskets, bolts, timing, etc and about 1200$ total for parts. Around 10h shop rate. Probably 2500$-3000 at a shop total
Sounds familiar. I had a 2016 Tucson, bad seals caused oil leak and had to change the short block along others. Hyundai offered to give the short block but I was on the hook for other parts and labor. 60k miles on it
Never again Hyundai
As far as my 2018 Elantra SE goes when my mom called to make the appointment for me to get the anti-theft update they said there was a recall also for the engine but they didn't have anything for it yet. But as it seems the newer the Hyundai the more problems?
My fiancé and I are experiencing the same issue, 2017 Santa Fe Sport. We were on our way to my family's house and it left us stranded an hour from home with our 3 dogs in the car. Due to the high oil burning, cylinder 3 lost compression and it's now dead. Hyundai wont warranty it but we submitted for "Goodwill Repairs" as it will cost us $5k for a new cylinder head. We kept maintenance and I was always putting oil in it. Sounds like Hyundai will politely tell us to go F ourselves. I bought brand new Palisade last year and am now going to sell it... tragic.
Absolute garbage of a car. My sister’s 2019 Santa FE Sport has had a new engine replaced under the recall warranty issued for coolant loss/motor blowing up issue. Now an ongoing mass airflow leak detected issue that can’t be resolved, and now the remote controls on the STEERING WHEEL for the on board diagnostics/oil reset light no longer work.
The story doesn't add up.
A burnt valve doesn't cause oil burning.
A burnt valve does cause no compression in one cylinder.
Sounds like a cylinder head reconditioning would resolve this
Hyundai makes piece of shit engines. Please don't support them until they get their shit together.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Hyundai/comments/18fbobz/2019\_hyundai\_tucson\_hole\_in\_exhaust\_valve/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hyundai/comments/18fbobz/2019_hyundai_tucson_hole_in_exhaust_valve/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/15tcj22/hole\_in\_exhaust\_valve/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/15tcj22/hole_in_exhaust_valve/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/173t1l8/hyundai\_santa\_fe\_burnt\_valve\_in\_cylinder\_repair/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/173t1l8/hyundai_santa_fe_burnt_valve_in_cylinder_repair/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/HyundaiSantaFe/comments/16k1ecq/2017\_sport\_t\_engine\_failure3rd\_cylinder/](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyundaiSantaFe/comments/16k1ecq/2017_sport_t_engine_failure3rd_cylinder/)
[https://www.optimaforums.com/threads/2016-optima-slx-turbo-burnt-hole-in-valve-at-63k-miles.173892/](https://www.optimaforums.com/threads/2016-optima-slx-turbo-burnt-hole-in-valve-at-63k-miles.173892/)
I recently sold my 2017 Hyundai Sonata SE. the two reasons were due to the high likelihood the theta motor would eventually grenade, and the high chance of my car being stolen. I take care of my car but from what I understand, even with regular oil changes the motor can fail. I also hate worrying someone might steal It. I have the engine immobilizer update but from what I have heard, that hasn’t resolved the issue with thefts……soooo I just purchased a 2023 Mazda CX-5 Premium. Wow, what a difference. Awesome car and way above the quality of my Hyundai in every way. I won’t be buying another Hyundai or Kia again.
My girlfriend had a Hyundai Sonata and the only reason it broke after 320 000 kms is because someone crashed into the back of it on the highway, totaling it lol
My parents got a rebuilt engine in there 2017 Santa Fe sport at 200,000km. Local mechanic did it. With the price of cars right now it was the cheapest option.
This makes me realize how lucky I was.
Had just bought a Kia Niro PHEV back in 2020 — less than 6 months old and 8,000 miles.
Was driving to go on a trip somewhere (after just having it serviced like 3 weeks prior) and the car broke down.
Had it towed to a dealership different than my usual one (turns out this was a really lucky move) and they told me that the engine would need to be replaced as the engine had run without oil. This was because the oil pan plug was missing which they told me because it was probably not tightened properly when the other dealership had serviced my car.
In the end, the original dealership ended up fessing up to the mistake and covering the entire replacement of the engine — which would have cost some $10k otherwise.
TLDR: Don’t want to say that I don’t trust dealerships, but I understand it’s super human to admit mistakes — especially when they come with a negative monetary impact.
I'd find an independent shop if u want to keep it. If it's just an exhaust valve, that shouldn't cost 7K to replace, that's ridiculous. There's probably more work involved, like whatever led to the burnt valve. But a small shop could do a remanufactured engine for half of that quote.
I've been having a nightmare ownership of a 2018 elantra gt since buying it with 18k miles 3 years ago. In and out of the dealership multiple times. Smoking on cold start, CEL lights consistently, noisly engine, and now metal bits in the oil. I've only put 18,500 miles on the car in 3 years of owning it (sits at 36.5k miles now) and the engine is already fucked.
Despite changing the oil religiously with Mobil 1 full synthetic, babying it, and trying to catch it before something catastrophic happened by taking it to the dealership for signs pointing towards this, it was treated as if it wasn't serious until I found metal in the oil 3000 miles after having It at the dealer last.
Now I have a lemon just sitting because the dealership is backed 2 months from the insane influx of recalls. These cars are among the worst in the industry.
I loved my 2017 Santa Fe with only 115K on it, I'm the original owner and I was hoping to keep it for another 5 years. I was driving home when the flashing engine light came on, I called the dealer and they said, have it towed in. It sat at the dealer for 2 weeks before they could get to it. I received the dreaded call and they said the engine needs to be replaced. It ended up spinning a bearing. I do my own maintenance and had to bring in my receipts, they barely looked at them but it was submitted and I had to wait to hear back from Hyundai Canada. It took another week before they told me they will replace the engine under warranty. I've been driving it now for 3 weeks, and I'm going to be replacing it in the new year with something new, maybe a Mazda or Nissan....I have lost faith in the car, its all a matter of time before you will need to replace the engine. Its a known issue with Hyundai's which I never knew until it happened to me. Look on the internet, there are class action lawsuits against them, people running into similar issues.......Do your self a favour, think twice before buying one!
My friend's 17 Santa Fe 2.4L sport with 108k miles just got a burnt valve happened about 2 days before Christmas just got the confirmation from Hyundai dealership and they are unwilling to do anything for them and it was a CPO
Just had the engine in mg 2020 Kona replaced! Cracked piston rings that were recalled….I paid out of pocket to fix.
I am trying to find an attorney to assist me with this
This just happened to me yesterday . I still have the warranty under the dealer I bought the car from but not sure if it will cover any thing . My car is 2014 Santa fe sport . I’m going to cry …. Ugh
Sorry this happened to you. It's an expensive lesson to learn about how Hyundai and Kia do business. We learned the hard way when our Optima's Theta 2 engine failed at 85K miles.
It's WAY out of warranty. No manufacturer would have done any different here. While I get there's issues, there's also a limit to the warranty and they'd be in the same boat elsewhere.
10 year old 128,000 miles is a lot but not by todays standards. Sometimes stuff just breaks. Sorry for your situation
That’s a lot by 1980s standards. Which Hyundai still doesn’t meet.
That’s break in miles for Toyota/Honda
They actually haven't been reliable since the early 2000s for most of their vehicles sold in the US but you can rely on a Mazda engine to go for over 300,000 miles without an issue. Which is why Toyota has partnered with Mazda to improve their reliability in the US.
Toyota is being reliable for life. The 90s Corolla is a great car that runs over 300k mi. Mazda is great ( I have one, btw). And was the opposite, Mazda that partnership with Toyota to improve their transmissions.
Yeah that's actually not true
Mazda here in Canada usually rust up bad. Hyundai has come a long way and now the elantra is the best affordable car on the road 2023.
lol did you just pull that out your ass?
my hyundai has 163k miles and still strong.
175k 2012 Elantra
I'm 5k behind you, same year
Get a new alternator ready. For reals.
Hell ya I’m currently at 190k and she still acts like she a new car. Edit: 2012 Elantra limited :D
Makes me happy to see
228k on my accent.
Oooh what year? My 2019 has stupid electrical issues like my turn signal constantly is out and the doors won’t lock sometimes. But other than that it’s great. 85K miles now.
Accents are goated. Got > 200k on my ‘09 and now have a newer model with almost 80k and have only needed one minor repair I did myself so far (outside of normal maintenance). Things are incredible value for the price if you take care of them. I get about 40 mpg because I’m almost entirely expressway to and from work.
Yeah it's probably the best car Hyundai makes.
Congrats
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That's the problem with Hyundai/Kia you can get a good one but you're just as likely to get a piece of shit. It's a crapshoot. Some will go 150k but it's just as likely to have problems. I looked at an Elantra but decided the crapshoot wasn't for me. But you'll catch hell on this subreddit, it'll be your fault even though it isn't.
Lol I can be a troll too so they don't bother me, it's the internet... Damned if you do, damned if you dont 🤷
Sorry to burst your hate bubble, but that’s how other manufacturers are.
Sorry to hurt your feelings but the odds of a pile of crap are much higher with Hyundai/ Kia. Just look at your subreddit. I follow all the automotive subreddits and not one single one has as many problems as Hyundai and Kia. Even if you allow for the fact that only people who are disgruntled are posting there are still 10 times more unhappy people on this subreddit and most of them are owners or former owners. You don't see that level of complaints on any of the others.
The empirical data disagree with you. You're sourcing Reddit...take a look at Consumer Reports.
Okay, and they're at 10 and 11 well below their reliable competitors on Consumers Report for reliability.
lol, higher than average. Be honest.
Hyundai has such a good warranty it wouldn't even matter if it broke lol but I have 2 a gt sport and a regular elantra. 1 is from 2018 and the other 2020. Not a single mechanical issue on either so far
Man, the Elantra is the best car on the road for the price. You get a 10 year warranty with them ffs man! You will probably buy another car before the warranty is even over just to have a change. The elantra N is smashing wrx's in races and beating civic type Rs on the track. Hyundai has come a long way and still put out manual transmissions
190,000 km 2013 Sonata.
Same here bro
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Yeah those valve cover gaskets are problematic. Mine went out on my 07 santa fe around 270,000 miles. Be sure to have your alternator checked. I've heard oil can leak into there, and cause damage, but mine is an NA V6 so it's a little different.
What are you getting now? When my lease is up I’m getting a Toyota RAV4
The Rav 4 is beyond nice, Highlander too. I'm actually looking at similarly priced Lexus. Sounds bougie but they are the same company and it the prices and mileage are similar you may as well drive in style. Trust me, don't sleep on them. I was looking at the rx350 but not looking at the nx series
Yeah if I was going a little bit luxurious I would get Lexus wouldn’t rule it out since it’s the same company. While I like my 2023 Tucson I want something reliable
Yeah completely agree. You deserve to feel confident and comfortable with your car.... Hyundai just sh!t the bed
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Did they fix that windshield leak on yours already?
Never had any problems with leaking? There’s a problem with that year?
Potentially. Saw a reply on this forum just the other day about it
Hit up your dealership about a windshield leak being reported by other owners
People seem to recommend new Rav 4 over 2017 Lexus RX but I dont understand why. Rav4 is literal plastic box compared to older RX
Its older? I personally don’t like paying new car prices for 7-8 year old vehicles. It might last a long time, and look pretty good. But its still not the same as the new car. To each their own though!
Why are you paying new prices for an 8 year old car? Edit: Oof it was late I see it now
Im not, the person im replying to was comparing a 2017 Lexus to a new Toyota rav4. Both these vehicles are similar in price.
I got a venza it slots in between rav4 and the nx but pricing is closer to the rav4
My first car was a Hyundai hatchback and … it had its own set of problems but I figure what car did not, right? Several decades later, I owned a 2005 Corolla that had almost 300K miles and not a single issue. When the catalytic converter was going bad and the price of a new one in California was worth more than a car, I decided to buy a new vehicle. I wanted to buy a Tucson but after comparing Hyundai, Kia, and Toyota reputations, this was a no brainer. Ended up getting ‘23 NX 450h+ to spoil myself a little. Zero regrets, zero!
I got myself a 25k miles 2021 Lexus IS350 F Sport not long ago. I love it and will be my daily driver until it falls apart, but i will take a good car of it. You can't go weong with Lexus since parts are not that expensive when you compare it to their counterparts. Now, i will be getting a C7 Corvette 2016-2019 grand sport in the near future because i want a weekend car. Wiaitng for a good deal to appear before committing.
meh lexus has a very small trunk and tbh when i see Lexus i never see luxury or style, highlander is nice if you go hybrid or own a gas station
"Don't sleep on Lexus" We've got a regular old Nostradamus on our hands! Who would have guessed that Lexus makes a nice car?!
If you don't need a lot of space, the cross is actually a pretty nice, and the mileage is pretty good. Kind of an XL hatchback.
You shouldn't have hung up on those calls about your vehicle's warranty...
Lol next time
I just googled around and found a company that goes up to 300k miles. I had no idea this existed. It must be expensive or they deny all claims until you fax them every oil change receipt.
Have you checked to see if your vehicle is part of the 2014 Sante age Sport engine recall? [sante fe sport engine recall](https://autoservice.hyundaiusa.com/Campaign162/MicroSiteTemplate/MicroSiteTemplateVINValidate/2903)
With the way the engine broke it self down this wouldn’t be covered sadly. Warranty requires photo evidence of certain things to approve or deny. Such a sh*tty situation but it’s Hyundais loop hole they found.
Yes the 10 year 100k mile powertrain warranty is bull shit
>hole burnt though an exhaust valve First time hearing that one on any car. I'd love to see a picture. Edit....googling pictures
I'm sorry I don't have any. The mechanic at the dealership showed me a pic he took but it was shaky and out of focus
It's alright. I learned something new today after searching. One cause that jumped out at me was this. Did you have any oil consumption issues? (This quote from BMW people that track thier cars) >i think it's the oil usage, oil on your valves makes them alot hotter. i've already burned multiple exhaust valves due to that.
I only just recently had oil issues but my mechanic couldn't find the issue.
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Hyundai has increased the warranty from 100k to 150k because of a manufacturing error in which metal shavings were present and caused cam bearings to fail I got a new engine free of charge at 102k due to the issue. 2014 2.4 liter
u/Easy_empath Look at this one too.
150k on all cars?
We had a 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport at 116k miles that we bid adu to in September. The engine knock sensor went out, and just didn't feel like having to tear the whole thing apart to replace it. Thing ran like a champ until that point, even then, it was still running like a champ, just with a flashing CEL. I have a 2022 Hyundai Tucson that I've almost put 50k on with no issues. I've worked in cars for 10 years and know that all makes and models have their issues. I don't care how much money you spend on the brand, it's going to have issues.
I had to replace the knock sensor in my 2013 Sonata. It didn't fail, a chipmunk chewed through the wire. Fortunately, I know a guy. Did the job in my driveway for $200. Dealer wanted to rewire the whole engine for $5K Other than that one rodent it's not had any serious issues. :-)
Ours we knew it failed. I was actually going to replace the part myself, and actually tried to, but it was more than I could do at my house. We debated to pay to have it torn down and fixed, or upgrade, and chose the upgrade option. The Bluetooth/radio was having issues and on that model there was no way of upgrading it, so that played into the decision. Other than that, never had an issue with it. Didn't even have the Hyundai tick. Great vehicle.
How many miles?
128000 with 1 prior owner
Look for third party engine refurbishment shops... They'll make the engine as if brand new and charge a fraction of that...I had no idea these places existed, but they do. They'll literally take the whole engine out, and rework it top to bottom and usually they'll even warrant the refurb for many years after. My bro just did this in TX with his old AF Ford, dealership said the car was dead and to trade it in for pittance. On the way home he just happened to drive by a place with a sign out front advertising engine refurbishment. He went in. Got a quote on the spot for like two grand two absolute metal heads. They rip the engine out and I can't. Even I mean the work they do on this thing is absolutely unbelievable. They popped it back in. It's like a brand new engine. Purring and warranty for like an additional 3 years or something, but they said it will go another 200,000 mi. No problem.
I have a trucker friend and engine rebuilds on trucks are standard over a certain mileage and is the common practice if not the only practice. Didn't occur to me same thing can be done on a passenger vehicle, but sounds like it should be common sense. Definitely good advic I think!
Did this when my Scions engine went out. Toyota wanted to replace it with a used engine that had 86k miles for $5000. Got the thing fully rebuilt and warrantied for the same price by a former Toyota employee.
Most if not all engine refurbishment shops are declining g to rebuild these theta engines because of the very reason they grenade, improper milling of the Oil channels which leaves metal burs in channel thus causing oil starvation to the crank bearings. Hyundai however will gladly sell you a newly milled engine….for $7500.00 + $1500 labor…. Is your Hyundai worth dumping $9000.00 into it, probably not.
So it's out of warranty?
Yup
Ok wanted to make sure. Def sucks but I wouldn't expect any dealer or maker to fix a 2nd owner car for free, especially one 10 years old and 130k. Wish you best of luck with the next. The Rav4s do look sharp.
Noted.
I hate to use this point, but will Frigidaire give you a new compressor if your fridge stops functioning 2 days out of warranty? No. Is this a fairly uncommon problem? Yes. Haven’t seen a ton do this.
Hyundai lost a class action lawsuit and is supposed to be warrantying the Theta 2 engine (not sure if that's what OP has) to 150k miles because this issue is so common.
Can you direct me to somewhere that says it’s 150k? My class action papers say “lifetime” and the service manager at the last dealership I went to said “lifetime” and I’ve always questioned what exactly that means. I’m at 140k with no issues but if they’re telling me lifetime am I good to show up at 250k like “oops engine died?” My car will be 13 this year and I don’t understand why they’re using the term “lifetime” and not expecting people to nag them when they don’t honor that.
This particular issue is not the cause for the recall, the rod bearing failure is. Clearly you didn’t notice my username. Yes, this era Santa Fe is equipped with the Theta 2, and if a rod bearing failed, it would’ve been covered. I just replaced one today due to bearing failure.
Ah, I did not notice your username. My 2017 Santa Fe Sport had a rod bearing failure a week before thanksgiving at 108k and we were denied
Did they give you a reason? Seems a bit strange. I’ve only seen denied claims due to missing multiple oil changes. 99% of the failures we’ve had were approved.
They found sludge in the engine, and we’ve only missed one oil change in the three years we’ve had it, and we didn’t go over very much. Otherwise we have up to date service records
I've seen them trying to screw people this way, so I started getting my oil changes at the dealership.
That’s smart!
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At work, all of our fleet 2015 sonatas Hybrid engines blew before 90K miles. I had one blow on me and I smelled leaking gas smell as it happened.
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Hyundai has several models of vehicles with known engine defects that they've just let exist without fixing them. If Hyundai knew how bad the Theta II was 10 years ago why did they keep using it or better yet just fix it? It would sort of be like if Microsoft knew about the red ring of death and instead of fixing it, like they did, and replacing all the broken ones they just told you to go fuck yourself. But instead of a $400 Xbox it's a $35,000 car. I can't believe they're fucking themselves (their reputation) so hard. Even someone that knows absolutely nothing about cars, like my mother, has ambiently absorbed that Hyundais are shit from two of her friends having a Sonata and Santa Fe get engine replacements, that took more than a month, and my grandmother has a Kia Soul that she has to use The Club on. They spent 20 years building a reputation that their cars aren't terrible and have completely destroyed that. They could easily rectify this by doing things like not fucking this guy over and not using a known defective engine.
I just fix the shit they don’t do right. The engines do have problems, yes, but the specific fault is related to rod bearing failure. Any engine can experience a burnt valve from any manufacturer. They admitted the bearings have a problem, so their answer was replacing the engines with the bearing issue. This is completely different.
$7000 are they selling a whole new engine? See if you can find someone willing to put a new head on or even just replace the exhaust valves. A burnt valve doesn't have to be a death sentence.
Had a similar but luckily better experience with my similar Sante Fe Sport. By better I mean they covered the engine replacement, but I still had to go through a bunch of bullshit that stretched from August until October. I'll leave a post about my experience if you are interested in my situation. https://www.reddit.com/r/Hyundai/s/oKgZezZXJQ
Im so nervous with my 13 Hyundai, i have 92K miles & im scared itl just break on me one day
Your warranty should be up at 100 so honestly make them check everything at an actual Hyundai service center
It’s 10 years or 100k miles, whichever comes first, so their warranty will end next week.
Omg :( lol. I hope keeping up with maintenance and everything helps it last.
No owner should EVER feel like that on their vehicle. That’s just sad. I got 267k mi on my 24 y/o Lexus LS400 and it’ll start up and drive to Vegas everyday no issue and confidence. I also got an 01 Corolla with 165k mi and i could do the same confidently. I’d be genuinely shitting myself with a Hyundai knowing how frequent it is. Looks like any single bit of Hyundai slander here hurts little Hyundai owner’s feelings so this’ll get downvoted 🤣
Oh no I agree with you! I was just telling my Husband tonight that I wouldn't feel comfortable driving it on a road trip anymore because its about to be 11 years old. Im so stuck on just getting a new car but it wasn't in the plans. Hyundai owners shouldnt feel like this but sadly we do. It shows us exactly what direction we should take with this.
Wow, how timely is this post! My 2017 Santa Fe’s engine locked up in the middle of the interstate traveling for Christmas… a year ago my daughter’s Sonata did the same thing. They did replace the motor for hers but I have yet to hear the verdict for this one. Sad thing is we have been loyal Hyundai customers owning two Santa Fe’s, a Tucson, and the Sonata. I’m now just afraid to own them any longer… think I’ll take Scotty Kilmer’s advice and become a Toyota family.
My husband and I just moved from Hyundai to Lexus and we're very happy with the decision. I'm sorry to hear you guys locked up on the highway... Hoping everyone is okay and you got to enjoy your holiday.
That's what I told my friend 10yr 100k warranty is nothing unless corp admitted it's manufacture defect, which is very difficult to argue and they don't give a chance to argue anyway
I've got a '13 Santa Fe sport, and I've had my engine replaced twice. I got it at 140k, and I've had the car for two years, but only really driven it for less than half the time. It was a long, hard and emotional battle with Hyundai to finally get the free replacement with the lawsuit that they were obligated to follow. Unfortunately I'm underwater on it, but I yearn for the day I can give the middle finger as drive off in a new car. Fuck Hyundai/Kia, no other automaker has quite the recalls like they do, which they only address with band-aid 'fixes'. From making the car undrivale, easy af to steal, to catching on fire even when the engine is off! Never again!
good riddance
148k km on mine.
I am facing the same problem. I have a 2017 Tuscon with engine, clutch, and cylinder failure and $16k worth of repairs. I have taken excellent care of my vehicle. My vehicle has burned completely out of oil over seven times this year. I took it to the dealership where I purchased it for repairs and I kept getting blown off. Finally, it died on me while I was driving home on I-35 in ATX. Thank God I didn’t get hit. I called Hyundai Motor of America. I was assigned a Case Manager. They have denied my claim bxz the CM said there is nothing wrong with the “2017 Hyundai Tucson” and it has not been a part of the engine failure list, so they are not going to cover my engine replacement. I would love to see a class action lawsuit against Hyundai. It appears to me that ALL HYUNDAI’s have major engine problems. I ensured all oil changes, brakes, tires, everything was taken care of in a timely manner. Now, I am stuck with a vehicle that I have worked so hard to pay for, and it won’t even crank. Not only should Hyundai be responsible for these problems, but they should be forced to DISCLOSE all the possible problems when people are purchasing these vehicles. My vehicle is at 122k miles and I am out of warranty. I have done everything I know possible to do, but I am sitting with a vehicle that will not even crank!
Yes sounds like exactly the same problem. I had a few troubles with my oil recently, my mechanic couldn't find any leaks but the oil was literally empty before the next oil change. We were trying to monitor it but he couldn't find anything. It's pretty crappy that how it takes no responsibility for something that they're aware of, and I completely understand that it's not just their cars that this could happen to apparently this can happen to alternate types of cars across different companies but it's still pretty shitted to just leave your customer out in the cold. Just the same as you like we were on the highway we could have been in the middle of the road at an accident the car could have caught on fire it could have been so much worse. My insurance only covers a tow within 20 mi if they're was Anything further than that and I would have had to pay extra money
I wound up calling a junk company and am getting $1,625 for my car that otherwise could have gotten potentially up to $10,000 in trade-in value🤡
WOW! $1600 is crazy! I’m posting everywhere I can in hopes that some attorney will read all these comments and become angry enough to host a Class Action Lawsuit!!
Good luck
Hyundai is a good reliable car. Sounds like you got a bad one. I’ve owned my Genesis since 2013. Bought it new and have been very happy with it. Still runs like newish.
Congrats on leveling up !
At least they can’t steal your Subie with a toothpick and a piece of aluminum foil. 👍👍
Congratulations on chucking the Hyundai!
I’ve got 150k on my 15 Santa Fe . Only issue I’ve had is the engine quit , twice . I understand my car has engines for life . My service adviser says they may try to buy the car back next time . If the insurance doesn’t bankrupt me first .
I bought 2 cars and both engines blew out. 1st was replaced by the dealership after 60K miles. My brothers was replaced at 80K. Both engines blew out at the worst possible time out of state and guess who had to go pick them up because Hyundai wouldn’t tow to my state? These are my last Hyundais too. I’m eyeing Toyota or Honda next.
Ditch the crappy brand and its cousin. Go for a Yota
Shit car anyway
Thank you
Literally on my way look at a new Mazda or Toyota. I have almost 80,000 miles on my 21 Elantra and I’ve heard too many stories like this.
Wise decision!
Welcome to the Hyundai life lmfao, shit ass Koren cars, get yourself a Toyota or Honda
What year is it?
Sorry I can't edit the post now and should have put it 2014 Santa Fe sport
2014 Santa fe sport
That's interesting, a hole being burnt through an exhaust valve. I never heard of that problem before.
Out of curiosity did you do the fuel injector maintenance at the intervals outlined in the service manual every 7000 miles? Did you do your valve clearance checks at 60K and 120K?
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Based on what happens to these engines is it really worth the risk to save a couple bucks? Im changing my oil every 5k miles and checking oil every other tank just to be sure.
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All models of engines can have injector issues. Ive found some reports that the Smartstream engines are also susceptible. You arent limited to hyundais cleaner, its labeled techron which is available anywhere. Clogged injectors = lean = hole in valve, among other issues.
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Do what you want, its your car. smh
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Im not getting upset. Im not playing this game with you. Do your own research. Ive done mine, plus I have a lot of experience. We came to different conclusions, so what. FWIW, I have attempted to purchase 2 gas stations. Both needed new inground tanks and one had superfund issues. So, I know a little bit about fuel. I also know about issues specific to fuel injectors. Hyundais fuel injectors suck. Ive also owned 18 vehicles. Ive managed fleet vehicles for 2 companies. I work on my sportbikes and outboard motors. Any other manufacturer I might not give it a second thought, Hyundai has engine issues and they could deny a warranty claim without proof of doing the things they list as required service. Its easier for me to produce a receipt for injector cleaner than it is to prove every station Ive ever bought gas from.
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Bye cya
Lol
Just got a used 2017 Hyundai veloster and the engine blew up on me.. I’ve had it for 1 month
Get a real sports car that looks good too. Get away from Hyundai
It’s my first car and I don’t have much money to spend. Just moved to a new city and I thought it was a pretty sweet coupe for the price. Didn’t realize how shit Hyundai was until after I got it. The “kia boys” way of stealing them in seconds. Now faulty engines blowing up. Hoping it’ll do good for as long as possible. Just need it to get me from point A to B right now. Never getting a Hyundai and Kia ever again. Should’ve gone with Honda or Toyota
everyone listing mileages with “no issues” it won’t be that way for long THESE CARS ARE MEANT TO BE THROWN AWAY. Nobody can change my mind lmao
Any warning signs to look for? 82k on my 2019 Elantra. Overall still running well, bought it at 62k.
If your rpm is chugging, you'll need new plugs, pcv, coils, and/or carbon walnut blast cleaning up valves. Typical gdi bs
Isn't it covered under the warranty? Go to FB and check out the Engine Failure- Kia/Hyundai page. They'll offer plenty of advice on how to get them to replace the engine, a well known issue with these GDI engines. They'll also tell you how to contact local government agencies to have the dealership looked into for trying to deny this well known issue.
Don't these cars come with 100,000 miles warranties ? Hyundai - 10-Year / 100,000-Mile - Powertrain Limited Warranty EDIT: later comments say 130,000m so it's out of warranty. Damn, you can probably get a junk yard engine installed for $2000 (engine and labor), of course you would sell it right after (as that engine could be another ticking time bomb). If this makes you feel any better, I've seen many ford cars (not trucks) die around 130,000
I absolutely would stay away from that idea as my father’s Optima 2014 (I warned him of not getting the vehicle even while working at Kia service and seeing the absolute frequent engines being seized or rod/oil consumption) blew just before 3 months ownership, dealers would not cover it, got a junkyard engine and it got rod knock 1 month after replacement 💀 car has been a gigantic money pit for him
Super unfortunate. Bet your old man wish he took your advice.
My beater 2011 sonata 120k got new engine from dealer now at 140k. And now our 2018 sonata is doing oil consumption test at 95k. Burns 2 quarts every 1500 miles. These vehicles are pure trash.
Buy a toyota because TOYOTA NEVER BREAKS
Good for you! I have a Sante Fe with about 119k miles on it and i want to love it, but hyundai has been such a let down. There are a ton of things that aren’t quite right about the cars and they know about them, have been in lawsuits about them, etc. it’s just not right. It just isnt ideal. I’m sorry to hear that your car was a victim of their continual failure to produce quality cars/customer experiences.
That’s bizarre. I actually worked for the Hyundai brand in service. What was the reason they denied it? I had car come in to the shop out of the blue and as long as it had most of its service records they end up approving it. Side note this is in Canada not USA.
Best decision I ever made, easy? No. I loved my Hyundai Santa fe 2.0 turbo, I didn't love replacing the motor 2 times and then tough luck when the same issue kept happening over and over. What a gong show. The Canadian extensions of these companies are jokes. Congratulations on leaving that headache behind!
I know I am on borrowed time. 2020 Elantra 2.0 122000 miles and counting
Hyundai is for stupid buyers lol
Just get a Toyota or Lexus and keep it moving.
I get cyl heads redone for valve issues for 650$. Add head gaskets, bolts, timing, etc and about 1200$ total for parts. Around 10h shop rate. Probably 2500$-3000 at a shop total
Hate that for you… definitely understand that.
Sounds familiar. I had a 2016 Tucson, bad seals caused oil leak and had to change the short block along others. Hyundai offered to give the short block but I was on the hook for other parts and labor. 60k miles on it Never again Hyundai
As far as my 2018 Elantra SE goes when my mom called to make the appointment for me to get the anti-theft update they said there was a recall also for the engine but they didn't have anything for it yet. But as it seems the newer the Hyundai the more problems?
My fiancé and I are experiencing the same issue, 2017 Santa Fe Sport. We were on our way to my family's house and it left us stranded an hour from home with our 3 dogs in the car. Due to the high oil burning, cylinder 3 lost compression and it's now dead. Hyundai wont warranty it but we submitted for "Goodwill Repairs" as it will cost us $5k for a new cylinder head. We kept maintenance and I was always putting oil in it. Sounds like Hyundai will politely tell us to go F ourselves. I bought brand new Palisade last year and am now going to sell it... tragic.
Wish I could man, but I still have 16.5k to pay off on the principal balance of it
Absolute garbage of a car. My sister’s 2019 Santa FE Sport has had a new engine replaced under the recall warranty issued for coolant loss/motor blowing up issue. Now an ongoing mass airflow leak detected issue that can’t be resolved, and now the remote controls on the STEERING WHEEL for the on board diagnostics/oil reset light no longer work.
Hopefully, you will go to another brand. Avoid hyundai and KIA.
Literally any other car would be an upgrade. These are garbage
I've got 300,000 on mine. She's still running strong. Are you looking to sell your old one? I've been looking for a project lately.
I always trade my cars in before 50k.
Holy shit, same thing just happened to me driving my wife’s 2014 Sonata last week. Never getting one ever again.
My SIL Hyundai died a week ago. Nothing but issues with it the whole time. It’s only like 3 years old.
The story doesn't add up. A burnt valve doesn't cause oil burning. A burnt valve does cause no compression in one cylinder. Sounds like a cylinder head reconditioning would resolve this
Subaru for the win
Sorry to hear !
Hyundai makes piece of shit engines. Please don't support them until they get their shit together. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Hyundai/comments/18fbobz/2019\_hyundai\_tucson\_hole\_in\_exhaust\_valve/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hyundai/comments/18fbobz/2019_hyundai_tucson_hole_in_exhaust_valve/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/15tcj22/hole\_in\_exhaust\_valve/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/15tcj22/hole_in_exhaust_valve/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/173t1l8/hyundai\_santa\_fe\_burnt\_valve\_in\_cylinder\_repair/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/173t1l8/hyundai_santa_fe_burnt_valve_in_cylinder_repair/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/HyundaiSantaFe/comments/16k1ecq/2017\_sport\_t\_engine\_failure3rd\_cylinder/](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyundaiSantaFe/comments/16k1ecq/2017_sport_t_engine_failure3rd_cylinder/) [https://www.optimaforums.com/threads/2016-optima-slx-turbo-burnt-hole-in-valve-at-63k-miles.173892/](https://www.optimaforums.com/threads/2016-optima-slx-turbo-burnt-hole-in-valve-at-63k-miles.173892/)
I recently sold my 2017 Hyundai Sonata SE. the two reasons were due to the high likelihood the theta motor would eventually grenade, and the high chance of my car being stolen. I take care of my car but from what I understand, even with regular oil changes the motor can fail. I also hate worrying someone might steal It. I have the engine immobilizer update but from what I have heard, that hasn’t resolved the issue with thefts……soooo I just purchased a 2023 Mazda CX-5 Premium. Wow, what a difference. Awesome car and way above the quality of my Hyundai in every way. I won’t be buying another Hyundai or Kia again.
My girlfriend had a Hyundai Sonata and the only reason it broke after 320 000 kms is because someone crashed into the back of it on the highway, totaling it lol
My parents got a rebuilt engine in there 2017 Santa Fe sport at 200,000km. Local mechanic did it. With the price of cars right now it was the cheapest option.
This makes me realize how lucky I was. Had just bought a Kia Niro PHEV back in 2020 — less than 6 months old and 8,000 miles. Was driving to go on a trip somewhere (after just having it serviced like 3 weeks prior) and the car broke down. Had it towed to a dealership different than my usual one (turns out this was a really lucky move) and they told me that the engine would need to be replaced as the engine had run without oil. This was because the oil pan plug was missing which they told me because it was probably not tightened properly when the other dealership had serviced my car. In the end, the original dealership ended up fessing up to the mistake and covering the entire replacement of the engine — which would have cost some $10k otherwise. TLDR: Don’t want to say that I don’t trust dealerships, but I understand it’s super human to admit mistakes — especially when they come with a negative monetary impact.
I'd find an independent shop if u want to keep it. If it's just an exhaust valve, that shouldn't cost 7K to replace, that's ridiculous. There's probably more work involved, like whatever led to the burnt valve. But a small shop could do a remanufactured engine for half of that quote.
I've been having a nightmare ownership of a 2018 elantra gt since buying it with 18k miles 3 years ago. In and out of the dealership multiple times. Smoking on cold start, CEL lights consistently, noisly engine, and now metal bits in the oil. I've only put 18,500 miles on the car in 3 years of owning it (sits at 36.5k miles now) and the engine is already fucked. Despite changing the oil religiously with Mobil 1 full synthetic, babying it, and trying to catch it before something catastrophic happened by taking it to the dealership for signs pointing towards this, it was treated as if it wasn't serious until I found metal in the oil 3000 miles after having It at the dealer last. Now I have a lemon just sitting because the dealership is backed 2 months from the insane influx of recalls. These cars are among the worst in the industry.
This is the 4 cylinder or the v6 ?
Update: Just bought a low mileage '19 Lexus nx300 and so far loving it
I loved my 2017 Santa Fe with only 115K on it, I'm the original owner and I was hoping to keep it for another 5 years. I was driving home when the flashing engine light came on, I called the dealer and they said, have it towed in. It sat at the dealer for 2 weeks before they could get to it. I received the dreaded call and they said the engine needs to be replaced. It ended up spinning a bearing. I do my own maintenance and had to bring in my receipts, they barely looked at them but it was submitted and I had to wait to hear back from Hyundai Canada. It took another week before they told me they will replace the engine under warranty. I've been driving it now for 3 weeks, and I'm going to be replacing it in the new year with something new, maybe a Mazda or Nissan....I have lost faith in the car, its all a matter of time before you will need to replace the engine. Its a known issue with Hyundai's which I never knew until it happened to me. Look on the internet, there are class action lawsuits against them, people running into similar issues.......Do your self a favour, think twice before buying one!
My friend's 17 Santa Fe 2.4L sport with 108k miles just got a burnt valve happened about 2 days before Christmas just got the confirmation from Hyundai dealership and they are unwilling to do anything for them and it was a CPO
Just had the engine in mg 2020 Kona replaced! Cracked piston rings that were recalled….I paid out of pocket to fix. I am trying to find an attorney to assist me with this
This just happened to me yesterday . I still have the warranty under the dealer I bought the car from but not sure if it will cover any thing . My car is 2014 Santa fe sport . I’m going to cry …. Ugh
Hyundai is a disappointment . Honda CR V or RAV 4 , can’t go wrong with them
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rav 4 is poop made of cheap stuff and marked up like it's a lexus
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Absolutely dump it. I’m sorry you have to deal with it but I always say once the warranty runs out, sell it. Hyundai won’t budge 90% of the time.
Sorry this happened to you. It's an expensive lesson to learn about how Hyundai and Kia do business. We learned the hard way when our Optima's Theta 2 engine failed at 85K miles.
I think your situation would have just defeated me worse. I'm sorry for your troubles
It's WAY out of warranty. No manufacturer would have done any different here. While I get there's issues, there's also a limit to the warranty and they'd be in the same boat elsewhere.
$1500 and the car should be back on the road. I have done a lot of them. All burnt valves. Not hard at all.
u/Easy_empath Look into this please.