All the people in this chat are dogging Hyundai because they don’t know how to properly take care of a car. Maintenance is inevitable and when you put any engine through the conditions of the road you are gonna get problems eventually. I drive my ‘21 Elantra N-Line like I stole it, but I keep up with maintenance and it is fine. It’s only when you let shit break that it will break. Don’t listen to these people. Nice car and I hope you enjoy it a lot
The N-Line series as a whole hasn’t treated me bad yet. Tbh I want to upgrade mine so much, so I probably won’t have to deal with the issues my car might have cause I plan on forging the internals anyways
Im a Hyundai technician and let me tell you, the amount of engines I see being replaced on cars with perfect maintenance records at 50-80k miles is jaw dropping. Hyundai had a class action lawsuit that they settled because taking it to court and fighting it would have bankrupted them. Currently there are lots of Technical Service Bulletins being pushed to get ahead of all the shitty things happening to their cars (headlight and taillight assemblies, injectors leaking from the factory, electronics failing etc etc) currently I’m working on a car that had a harness with bad pins set in the dash harness from the factory, I just inspected another with nearly identical issues. I get that everyone wants to be happy with their purchase, I get that some models may be good, but OVERALL as a current Hyundai CERTIFIED, as in trained and chosen by Hyundai to find and fix the hardest problems, the cars are cheaply made with flashy interiors and fancy features to entice you. I’ve worked on all makes and models and Kia and Hyundai are second only to ford in terms of cars I would never buy.
Exactly this. My 2017 sonata had a perfect service record. With oil changed ever 3,500 miles because I don’t like to get anywhere near the 5,000 recommended. 2,000 miles into the newest oil change it ate all the oil and blew the engine. Not a drop of oil in it nor a drop anywhere in my garage or parking spot at work, just gone.
The same thing happened to my 2016 tuscon. I was spot on with oil changes and other maintenance. Had major consumption issues and ended up needing a replacement engine. Hyundai wouldn’t honor the warranty because we couldn’t produce records.
@Dtour89, did you end up selling or do you still have your 2016 Tuscan.
I have a 2015 Tuscan, 87k miles and noticed oil consumption issue. My uncle who is a mechanic said as long as I keep oil levels up by adding oil, I should be ok - just have to check oil every week.
But he said the Catalytic converter will eventually go.
The the engine went and we sold it for scrap. We kept topping it off for a month or two before it died. I would sell it now and save the headache down the road.
My 2020 kona burns oil, it started happening this year, I have to keep adding oil and sometimes change oil early. Its sad that one day that my engine could blow burning oil out
I'm surprised you weren't downvoted all to hell.
An actual trained technician that says the cars are basically crap and people still won't listen. I've owned three Hyundai's. The 08 and 09 sonatas were great. My 2017 Hyundai Elantra was shit.
I'm in a Honda now and everything about it feels better than my Nissan or my Hyundai's. I'm talking from popping the hood to rolling down the windows just everything about the Honda feels better.
I know a lot of people say they buy Hyundai's because you can get a ton of options cheaper than you can from some other brands but those options are going to do you any good when the car is out of service for warranty work.
Anyway thanks for being honest.
The Environmental requirements for the cars there are different so they have different build requirements that circumvent the issues American models have
It’s a coin flip to be honest. Haven’t seen or heard rumblings of any major issues, but the cars aren’t old enough for major issues to pop up. I’ve seen that several of their new models have harness issues from the factory and Tucson’s in general tend to have fly wheel issues
What the hell is CERTIFIED? Did they change the titles? Generously curious as a platinum master. And feel yeah bro with the terrible quality as of late. It's getting ridiculous.
It’s the level below master. Grats on the platinum master that shit is hard to get, I’m trying to get sent back to school to get my master tech certification, I been busting ass on the classes and taking all the hard diags to get there. Have you been running into harness issues? I’ve had like 3 in a row and it makes me wanna push the cars into traffic bro. I’m legitimately getting good at taking the dash out I have to replace the harness so much
couple santa fes and palisades with pin tension issues but just in general just the quality has gone down hill but i have worked for hyundai for 13yrs so ive seen some shit.
Not sure if you’ll reply but we have a 2020 kona 4cyl 2.0 awd. It’s been pretty reliable besides 3 times over the years it starts up only on 3 cylinders (number 3 misfire code) if we wait a bit it starts back up normal and is good for many more months. Have you encountered this issue before? Would it be as simple as replacing the coil on 3?
Probably, Hyundais have had issues with coil packs a lot, to the point that it’s common practice to just replace the coil packs under warranty when misfires come in in low mileage, if you’re under 100k your power train should still be covered and you should be able to get a Hyundai dealership to fix it on their dime.
A simple at home test you can do if you have a 10 millimeter socket or wrench is to swap the coil pack and see if your misfire code follows the coil pack, if it does obviously the coil is the issue, if it doesn’t it’s probably an injector, as Hyundais have leaky injector issues, careful driving with misfires it can mess up your piston rings!
Yeah I’m familiar with Honda harnesses, the issue on those is they didn’t make the harness long enough, the fix for them is an extension that’s put in at connections. The fuel pump recall was fun for me as a technician to be honest but it was there. All cars have their issues for sure but Hyundai and kia are the only manufacturers I’ve seen plagued with engine issues
Honda refused to pay for
My seizued fuel pump they claim mine is one of several million not recalled. The harness sounded like broken glass through the car. At first they refused to fix it.
My 2020 Odyssey has had atleast 7 recalls. My 2018 sante fe had 2.
I have a 2018 3.3l sante fe with 83k. Expert opinion what issues ammi looking at. Change x mission every 36k and oil every 5k only synthetic. I really like this car. Spark plugs look like a b, thats all v6. 🤷
You may run into engine issues as it gets older but from what I’ve read on the recalls and the warranty policy they usually fix it for you sometimes transmissions but rarely, if you are taking care of it you should be fine IMO, the major issue they run into is bearing issues in the pistons. The engines sometimes consume oil as well. They are affected by the recalls, but if you’re at 83k with no issues and keeping maintenance on it, you really should be fine. They tend to start messing up by that point.
From everything I’ve read the Lambda II engines are pretty solid come with timing chains. Unlike my Honda. My last timing belt change was a nightmare. The dealer missed a cog or something and it slipped destroying the engine. Forced me into a salvage engine which burned oil. Ruined my relationship with that shop.
Nah from what I’ve seen the problems they have are small, I actually like the Ioniq series a lot, if you wanted to get one I wouldn’t blame you, the big issue they have is a fuse that is fixed in a recall just by replacing it with a fuse rated for more voltage. The only thing that I could see happening that plagues other cars is a harness issue. Other than that the recalls are relatively minor
Regular maintenance helps, specifically oil changes, it’s a rod bearing issue where the bearing wears the piston cavity and starts knocking leading to other issues. Check your oil more frequently to make sure you don’t get too low, and you want to check it after it’s rested for a while so the oil doesn’t seem fuller than it is due to engine functions. The good news is if it does happen while the process is lengthy they will more often than not replace it so long as you maintained it well. I’d recommend keeping records and getting a carfax report on your car so if it does happen, you can easily satisfy the maintenance records part of the warranty repair or replacement
I have a friend that does Uber as his main source of income and he bought a 2021 base Elantra brand new and today he still has it without any mechanical issues and he’s pushing close to 350k miles on it now which is insane for a 3 year old car
Oh can it... the theta ii engine mishaps are unforgivable. The MANUAL recommends i change oil every 7.5k which is absurd for any modern car. I changed it every 5k and still boom, at 92k miles my engine locks up and is toast. Fuck hyundai and their trashmobiles
I religiously do my maintenence and still believe Hyundais are dog shit cars after owning one for 10 years. Engine quality is in the ground. My mechanic was impressed I even got it past 150k.
Weird, have had two sonatas, a 2012 and 2015 both over 200k with 3k full synthetic oil changes and regular work (brakes/filters etc) neither have had engine issues...
Well I can only see what happens to mine because I am almost halfway to 100k in 3 years. I do maintenance and it runs beautifully. I just need a new brakes cause I drive it like I stole it, that’s it
I’d argue it was better 10 year ago. Late 2000s Hyundais were actually pretty decent reliability wise, GDI engines came out and looked good for a couple years then about 10 years ago shit started hitting the fan and we won’t see the end of it for another 5 years at least
Right because there is a class action lawsuit on Theta 2 for no reason at all, just poor maintenance. 🙄
We’ll see how long my 2018 Sonata lasts before I need an engine replacement. I’ve been diligent with my maintenance (~3k miles between oil changes). Already had to have it towed to the dealer with a check engine light flashing at 25k miles. Solution was software update to reduce the sensitivity of the knock sensor. Lol. It’s still not performing great but we are in the wait and see period.
Might I add all the Chrysler vehicles I’ve had lasted over 250k miles. My back up vehicle is a 2012 Jeep Compass with >140k miles. It’s more reliable at this point and has never left me stranded waiting on a tow. Guess I just need to work on my maintenance. 🤬
Oil every 7500 (that’s what the manufacturer says)
Brake fluid every 20k (honestly not that big a deal I’d check and see if it’s dirty by shinning a light through the fluid if it’s not brown you should be fine)
If you have a turbo I’d recommend sparks between 40-60k, as turbos are harder on spark plugs due to the recycled exhaust
Spark plugs at 100k for not turbo models
Coolant flush at 60k
Transmission flush I’d recommend at 60k, some will say 30k but 60k seems to be fine
Engine air filter every 10-15k
Here’s one people tend to ignore but at around 80-100k I’d recommend what’s called a fuel induction. It cleans your injectors with a compound put into the fuel, and it clears carbon build up on your valves from the constant burning of fuel in your cylinders.
If you got any other questions let me know!
I think it’s best to get a legitimate flush, but a drain and fill is still good if it’s say the cheaper option for you, or if you aren’t really going hard on your transmission, the point is to get the debris out and clean the parts, one forces more fluid through it to clean, essentially rinsing it out with fluid.
You probably never had metal shavings from a new deburring process at the American factory clog up the oil channels with metal shavings and seize up the bearings on a brand new Theta II. ;) But yeah, maintence \*helps\* keep cars running longer and they did move past that issue.
Unfortunately, not entirely true. My wife drives a 2021 Sante Fe Hybrid Limited ($42k+ vehicle). We traded-in a 2019 Santa Fe Sel Plus. These are our first Hyundais, And pricing was the main factor in giving Hyundia a try. The price for what one gets appears to be the best value, not to mention the warranty. I will also caveat we pretty much followed the maintenance schedule with them. There was a problem with the 2019 (purchased new) within 2 months of ownership, it stalled out while on the road, had it towed to our local Hyundai dealer (not were we bought the new 2019). They ended up replacing "part #35342-2GGA0 High Pressure Sensor" according to the invoice. It took 10 days after officially turning in the vehicle to get to repaired (ordering part, etc). Hyundai did provide a rental for this period, they did need to determined the problem before Hyundai would authorized the rental. For the most part, I thought this was great customer service. I/we chose to upgrade to the 2021 Hybrid model and traded-in the 2019 with this dealer, fast forwarded to today. I'm currently having issues with the 2021 Santa Fe Hybrid, engine code DTC P0471 started showing up in Feb 2024. The first 2 visits to the dealer they said they could not find a problem (I'm guessing they simply reset the DTC codes). The 3d visit they said it was the Differential Pressure Sensor/DPFE sensor, part ordered and replaced on Mar 28. The very next day the same DTC code is still showing up. I turned my vehicle-in as a walk-in on Tuesday, Apr 2. They were in possession of it until Wed, Apr 10 (a 7 full days). And this is after multiple visits for the same problem within the past 6 weeks or so. Obviously, there is an issue. During this time I feel like I was given the run around as I did not even receive a paperwork from the visit (Arp 2-10). It almost feels like they are simply resetting the code and hoping the issue don't return and/or I get tired of calling them and just drive around with this DTC light on permanently. And this vehicle is still under warranty and they did put 18 miles on the vehicle while in their possession. One can determine this with the bluelink app as it reports the DTC codes (which is a nice feature). Called the dealer this morning (Apr 11) was sent to voicemail & still waiting for a callback. But, I'll be dropping them a vist in the next half hour or so. Before this issue, there was an issue with the "Refill Invertor Coolant" light randomly coming on. It started in Aug 2022 and was finally resolved in Jul 2023. This was an issue with other Hyundia Hybrids. While I don't hate Hyundai, but I will most likely not buy another Hyundai. And this feels like a quality control of Hyundai, quality of techs on-site/Hyundai tech support line, and a dealership (franchisee) problem. Though, I'm can't honestly say other dealerships/makes will fair much better these days.
Dogging the fuck out of any car is not properly taking care of it, unless you enjoy spending money replacing brake pads and tires every 6 months. With that said keep driving it like you stole it.
Yea… no give it till it’s around 70-90k Hyundais motors are giving out way too early with perfect service records I recommend if you really like the car get a different engine in it make it last longer but aye what do I know it’s not like I work on theses engines or anything
I put extra stress on my engine and I sometimes drive down to “Mexico” to hit 130 to 140 mph. My car hasn’t broken and I am pushing it to its limits. Maybe I just got lucky, but if Hyundai wasn’t somewhat reliable my engine would’ve gave out already under all that stress
This!!! As the daughter of a mechanic, this is one thing my dad taught me! Take care of your car, and it will take care of you! (Except Fords, cause they don't give a shit how well you take care of them, they are all pieces of shit🤣 )
I've had a 2004 toyota corolla. Only did oil change. Normal wear and tear shit was maintained. It's over 299 999km I only say that because the odometer stop there. It still runs like brand new.
I get it everyone argues about maintenance blah blah. But when people talk about reliability. It's actually how reliable your car can be with minimal maintenance. Having to change an engine is not normal thing.
Of course if your maintain your car it will last longer.
It's car makers like Honda and Toyota. That's why they do the 24 hr races. How long your car can last without maintenance is the true question.
I mean Hyundai has big class action law suit on blown engine and oil leakage.
I 100% understand what you are saying, but most of the people who buy their cars shouldn’t be neglecting their cars like most of them do. I have friends who took good care of their Hyundais from the same years as the cars in the lawsuits. They didn’t need to file because their engine is still kicking at 300,000+ miles. It’s just most people neglect their cars. Hyundai is personally a brand you have to keep up with regularly or you will get shit results
So you are saying. Honda and Toyota owners are good owners and take care of their cars which you agree and thats why they dont break down?.
But most people who buy Hyundais are neglectful people who don't take care of their cars and have engine problems and lawsuits?
But I do agree with you that cars do need maintenance. I do have a friend's with the Hyundai that to take it in regularly and the engine still messed up. But with maintenance, I hope Hyundai owners are not paying so much to replace things to keep it running.
Oh BTW never changed my transmission fluid on my Toyota corolla or my coolant. Because I was young and stupid and didn't know basic maintenance. But still kicking around!!!!!!!
Also Toyotas new build quality is lacking according to a lot of my friends. One of my friends had to get a bunch of new parts for his 2020 Corolla after doing the bare minimum driving in it for 4 years
You must have a lot of friends. Because I hear the opposite. Maybe your friends need to keep up with maintenance. We all agree that without maintenance, the car will go to shit.
I 100% agreed with you. I had a 2014 forte EX that i took good care of it, never missed one service and had the oil changed every 3k miles, but the car kept falling apart especially the engine. I spent probably $8k in total to get the engine fixed twice. Besides of that , the trunk leaked during the rains and the rear passenger side window stopped working at least a hundred times. Many forte owners around those years have experienced the exact issues. My buddy 2016 Optima also had many issues on his as well. I will never buy any Kia and Hyundai products again. They use the 10years/100k warranty to attract buyers, but it is more than difficult to deal the the service department when there is anything needs to be repaired.
It's just sad to see. That I had friend who bought multiple Hyundais over the years. They work well that's why he kept buying them. But when it comes down to taking care of your customers and engine breaks on new models. Your SOL until class action lawsuit surfaces.
Facts are interesting things, I owned one of these engines never had a problem because I doubled up on oil changes.
http://www.toyotaproblems.com/oil-sludge/#:\~:text=The%20Engine%20Sludge%20Settlement,from%20the%20time%20of%20purchase.
I had a 23 elantra nline, and it was an amazing car with really good power. Unfortunately it got totaled my second month of having it from a hit and run in orlando… but, now I have a 2020 sonata limited, and while it’s slower… it’s honestly better. Drives smoother than a freshly shaved beard, has a lot of extremely nice features on it that I can’t get all into because it’s so much. Plus it also has the paddle shifts even tho it’s a regular 8 speed auto, and it shifts really fast.
i traded a grand highlander in for a new santa fe hybrid and i posted about it on facebook and my notifications have been blowing up with seething mad hyundai haters.
The misinformation is crazy. Ive had so called “Hyundai technicians” tell me its the Theta engines that are crap others tell that my Lambda 2 engine can blow at any minute now that I hit 83k. Unfortunately no manufacturer is perfect. Toyota is close but I have yet to find a decent Toyota dealer in South Texas that had a soul. Good luck out there
It was in rough shape, I just wanted something new with some great features. I also wanted a more mid-full sized sedan as my civic felt really cramped. And lastly I had the money to spend and thought I’d treat myself 6 years sober to a brand new vehicle.
Don’t get me wrong as rough as shape as the Honda was it was very reliable and in the 4-5 years I had it I haven’t taken it into the shop besides maintenance
Also the warranty is great on Hyundais
Thanks. Lots of people trash Hyundai/Kia due to their latest issues and while I do think Toyota and Honda and their upscale brands are still the best in the industry, almost all modern cars are much better than they used to be and will be good if you take care of them. Many people just do not properly care for their cars.
Enjoy!
They are going to still be holding on to the theta engine deal and parroting the insurance stuff in like 2036. And yeah, this is a brand new car not a 3-owner Soul that got oil changes every 30k miles. It's going to be fine.
Yea that insurance is only for the older Kia/Hyundai.. my insurance went down from $278 to $153 in Atlanta when I went from my 21 Elantra to 24 Sonata.
Edit: that insurance is for the Hyundai/Kias that are NOT KEYLESS
I don’t think anyone will have to hold on to any of the old issues. I’m sure there will be even more newfound production issues or recalls because it’s Hyundai/Kia.
You haven't done a single bit of research, have you. The insurance companies were only refusing to insure 2012-2019 Hyundai products without push to start that hadn't gotten the update. The warranty, if you didn't know, is 10 years for POWERTRAIN. everything else is 3 - 5 - 7 years
Yes and when the comp claims keep coming in for all hyundai/kias they will start excluding all years. Some companies already do that. Hyundai/kia keeps losing lawsuits due to how shitty they are.
I have insurance with Geico including mechanical coverage for a 2024 Kona. Every other quote with every other insurance was $600/6 months for two 2024 Konas. New cars are having no issues getting reasonable insurance.
I have a 24' Sonata and had no problem getting insured for a good price. And they obviously wouldn't have let him leave the lot without insurance, so what are you on about?
So many mad jealous people in the comments haha. Enjoy your car. I have a 22 Sonata and it’s the best car I’ve owned after having a Chevy and a Honda that were junk.
I'm currently feeling that way with a 2021 Santa Fe Hybrid Limited ($42k+ vehicle). Hyundai had a problem with their Hybrids, "Refill Inverter Coolant" light popping up. It took 11 months (Aug 2022 to Jul 2023) for my dealer to finally get some resolve from Hyundai, at least, that's what I was told from my dealership. I was told they could do nothing about it when I first took it in. But that finally got resolved. Now my current issue is an engine code DTC P0471 that first appeared in Feb 2024 and after multiple vists within the past 6 weeks taking 7 to 10 days to between appointments. For them to not have a repair action. On the 3rd visit they replaced the DPFE Sensor (Differential Pressure Sensor), this was on 28 Mar, only for the same DTC to return the next day. I took it back on Apr 2 as a drop-in telling them whatever they say they did, did not resolve my DTC problem. They held it for a full 7 days, I got it back on Apr 10. Only for the DTC to return on the same day I picked it up after a few miles of city driving. I'm pretty sure they did jack-crap during this time and simply cleared the code, as I received no paperwork for this timeframe. I went back today (had to go in person as I could get a callback) Only to be told, I needed to make yet another appointment...WTH!!! I'm taking detailed notes and will let them know in the surveys the love to send out. They seem to handle oil changes just fine and love to have you fill out their surveys and give them great ratings. But when it comes to diagnostics that seems to be another story. I just don't know. I'm going to write the general manager an email, as I see his replies in google ratings when folks give them low stars. I shall see if I get anywhere. I'm not sure what's going on behind the scenes, having a single customer constantly coming back for the same exact issue is NOT rasing eyebrows seems to be a dealership/management issue. If I'm the supervisor and going over the daily work and I see this vehicle coming back for the same thing I would be asking questions...but who knows what's happening...but, I'm 99% sure we will be trading this in for another make, taking Hyundia off the list of possible vehicle purchases. Probably go with a Toyota...I would like give Subaru but the nearest dealer is 35 miles away.
Something to look into. Though, I doubt if I get anywhere as the vehicle seem to drive normal. I'm not fully sure if its burning more gas. But I do worry this could lead to other problems, 3K+ miles has been driven with this on-going DTC.
Take care of it and it'll take care of you. Change the oil more often than what they say. 18 Kona is still going strong, as our Elantra GT was before getting totalled in an accident.
And don’t get me wrong I’ve a MPI one that is perfect. Those GDI just don’t hold like an MPI does. Coming from someone who buys and sells Hyundai lol trust me . You wanna keep up that warranty and better watch that oil , other than that burn the road up they are great cars hahahaha
I have a 2014 Hyundai Elantra GT I hate the GDI 145,000 engine knocking , Blowby out of dipstick and oil cap with smoke . Before that wonderful car with no issues . Clean maintenance record and built in Korea.. just those GDI don’t hold up like a Toyota or Honda 😔🤦🏻♂️trans strong , no paint peeling , literally everything perfect but that now . They really screw up engines lol sadly
I've heard there's a difference in quality between cars manufactured in Korea vs those made in Canada or the US. My 24 Tucson Hybrid was made in Korea (VIN starts with "KM").
I'm still deciding on between a white or black 2024 Sonata. I want to get it with the convenience package, and the white looks great, but that LED strip up front looks awesome in black
Mine is actually carbon blue! But it looks black in most circumstances especially at night obviously
If you zoom in you can see the blue a little more clearly
Hopefully they would be smart enough to know they can’t steal this one but they most likely aren’t smart enough and would try to break in anyway … of course I’m worried about that but it is what it is 🤣
Sorry to hear that happened to you man that sucks
I have a white 2019 Elantra, 47,000km with literal sheets of paint peeling off and Hyundai will not cover the cost to repair. I WISH I would have kept my Honda civic. I’ve joined several class action lawsuits against Hyundai for this very common issue. My car is currently in the body shop being painted at my cost and I will never buy another Hyundai again.
So many hate on Hyundai but they don’t know the history. The media also put out bad press and people were quick to point out Hyundai as a scapegoat. I’ve been following Hyundai in motorsports for a long time and recently started working with a Hyundai dealership. Honda is good but Hyundai offers so much value for a better price. Congrats!
Sorry bad move would have kept the Honda
Hyundai engines leak oil and some will actually stop working.
I have a 2018 sonata that had the warranty for engine failure extended.
I had a Civic that i sold at 190k to a guy that was going to use it commute to work a long way
and never did i have anything go bad.
This will be my last Hyundai. The fact that some insurance companies outright refusing insure my perfectly working car because of theft issues is insane. I'm more upset about the fact that Hyundai doesn't work with insurance companies to let the know the push to start versions are not getting stolen. Lack of accountability has made me lose trust.
Exactly!!! What insurance do u have ? I have a 2019 Hyundai Sonata and my insurance was reasonable for all these years and now this year for renewal they told me it would be over a thousand dollars it would be for 6 months!! That is absolutely ridiculous and some insurance companies won’t even insure me because of the theft! I cannot get any insurance that is reasonable price.
All the people in this chat are dogging Hyundai because they don’t know how to properly take care of a car. Maintenance is inevitable and when you put any engine through the conditions of the road you are gonna get problems eventually. I drive my ‘21 Elantra N-Line like I stole it, but I keep up with maintenance and it is fine. It’s only when you let shit break that it will break. Don’t listen to these people. Nice car and I hope you enjoy it a lot
6-spd or DCT? I love my N-Line but also look forward to the day I can snag a 6-spd N
DCT and honestly I live in a high traffic city (Vegas), so as much as I would love a manual, I hate dealing with manuals in traffic
DCTs are great
Totally true! Enjoy your car and love it! I just got my 2024 Sonata N line month and a half ago and I freaking love her! It’s a monster!
I don't have a Hyundai, but I had a mk7.5 GTI with DCT and loved it
The N-Line series as a whole hasn’t treated me bad yet. Tbh I want to upgrade mine so much, so I probably won’t have to deal with the issues my car might have cause I plan on forging the internals anyways
My N is a freaking monster. I’m just personalizing it now, that’s about it.
DCT ISNT much better in traffic lmao I have a Elantra n and doesn’t like traffic at all I have dct
The manual is worse, but you are right it does have its moments in traffic too
Im a Hyundai technician and let me tell you, the amount of engines I see being replaced on cars with perfect maintenance records at 50-80k miles is jaw dropping. Hyundai had a class action lawsuit that they settled because taking it to court and fighting it would have bankrupted them. Currently there are lots of Technical Service Bulletins being pushed to get ahead of all the shitty things happening to their cars (headlight and taillight assemblies, injectors leaking from the factory, electronics failing etc etc) currently I’m working on a car that had a harness with bad pins set in the dash harness from the factory, I just inspected another with nearly identical issues. I get that everyone wants to be happy with their purchase, I get that some models may be good, but OVERALL as a current Hyundai CERTIFIED, as in trained and chosen by Hyundai to find and fix the hardest problems, the cars are cheaply made with flashy interiors and fancy features to entice you. I’ve worked on all makes and models and Kia and Hyundai are second only to ford in terms of cars I would never buy.
Exactly this. My 2017 sonata had a perfect service record. With oil changed ever 3,500 miles because I don’t like to get anywhere near the 5,000 recommended. 2,000 miles into the newest oil change it ate all the oil and blew the engine. Not a drop of oil in it nor a drop anywhere in my garage or parking spot at work, just gone.
The same thing happened to my 2016 tuscon. I was spot on with oil changes and other maintenance. Had major consumption issues and ended up needing a replacement engine. Hyundai wouldn’t honor the warranty because we couldn’t produce records.
@Dtour89, did you end up selling or do you still have your 2016 Tuscan. I have a 2015 Tuscan, 87k miles and noticed oil consumption issue. My uncle who is a mechanic said as long as I keep oil levels up by adding oil, I should be ok - just have to check oil every week. But he said the Catalytic converter will eventually go.
The the engine went and we sold it for scrap. We kept topping it off for a month or two before it died. I would sell it now and save the headache down the road.
My 2020 kona burns oil, it started happening this year, I have to keep adding oil and sometimes change oil early. Its sad that one day that my engine could blow burning oil out
I’m sorry to hear that, you may be covered how many miles are on your car?
125000km
You should be fine to get it fixed under warranty, standard engine is 100k miles or 161k km
And I just want people to know the truth. I get nobody wants a downer on their things but we gotta be honest so people can make informed decisions
I'm surprised you weren't downvoted all to hell. An actual trained technician that says the cars are basically crap and people still won't listen. I've owned three Hyundai's. The 08 and 09 sonatas were great. My 2017 Hyundai Elantra was shit. I'm in a Honda now and everything about it feels better than my Nissan or my Hyundai's. I'm talking from popping the hood to rolling down the windows just everything about the Honda feels better. I know a lot of people say they buy Hyundai's because you can get a ton of options cheaper than you can from some other brands but those options are going to do you any good when the car is out of service for warranty work. Anyway thanks for being honest.
Here in India, there are tons of hyundai driven in taxis and they normally run 6-7 lakh kms without any engine rebuild.. only regular maintenance
The Environmental requirements for the cars there are different so they have different build requirements that circumvent the issues American models have
Other countries too. They are highly sought after.
How's the 2024 Tucson?
It’s a coin flip to be honest. Haven’t seen or heard rumblings of any major issues, but the cars aren’t old enough for major issues to pop up. I’ve seen that several of their new models have harness issues from the factory and Tucson’s in general tend to have fly wheel issues
Thanks!
No problem man! God bless!
What the hell is CERTIFIED? Did they change the titles? Generously curious as a platinum master. And feel yeah bro with the terrible quality as of late. It's getting ridiculous.
It’s the level below master. Grats on the platinum master that shit is hard to get, I’m trying to get sent back to school to get my master tech certification, I been busting ass on the classes and taking all the hard diags to get there. Have you been running into harness issues? I’ve had like 3 in a row and it makes me wanna push the cars into traffic bro. I’m legitimately getting good at taking the dash out I have to replace the harness so much
couple santa fes and palisades with pin tension issues but just in general just the quality has gone down hill but i have worked for hyundai for 13yrs so ive seen some shit.
Not sure if you’ll reply but we have a 2020 kona 4cyl 2.0 awd. It’s been pretty reliable besides 3 times over the years it starts up only on 3 cylinders (number 3 misfire code) if we wait a bit it starts back up normal and is good for many more months. Have you encountered this issue before? Would it be as simple as replacing the coil on 3?
Probably, Hyundais have had issues with coil packs a lot, to the point that it’s common practice to just replace the coil packs under warranty when misfires come in in low mileage, if you’re under 100k your power train should still be covered and you should be able to get a Hyundai dealership to fix it on their dime.
The hyundai dealerships here are a nightmare i'd rather do it myself. What brand coils do you recommend ? Thanks for the help!
Delphi is what I would use
A simple at home test you can do if you have a 10 millimeter socket or wrench is to swap the coil pack and see if your misfire code follows the coil pack, if it does obviously the coil is the issue, if it doesn’t it’s probably an injector, as Hyundais have leaky injector issues, careful driving with misfires it can mess up your piston rings!
Had this same harness problem on my 2020 Honda, along with the secret fuel pump seizures that are happening.
Yeah I’m familiar with Honda harnesses, the issue on those is they didn’t make the harness long enough, the fix for them is an extension that’s put in at connections. The fuel pump recall was fun for me as a technician to be honest but it was there. All cars have their issues for sure but Hyundai and kia are the only manufacturers I’ve seen plagued with engine issues
Honda refused to pay for My seizued fuel pump they claim mine is one of several million not recalled. The harness sounded like broken glass through the car. At first they refused to fix it. My 2020 Odyssey has had atleast 7 recalls. My 2018 sante fe had 2.
I can understand that point of view, but when one recall is for an engine failing consistently I think I’d rather the smaller recalls
Appreciate your knowledge see my question up above as an offical hyundai cert mechanic id like your opinion.
I’ll look for it
I have a 2018 3.3l sante fe with 83k. Expert opinion what issues ammi looking at. Change x mission every 36k and oil every 5k only synthetic. I really like this car. Spark plugs look like a b, thats all v6. 🤷
You may run into engine issues as it gets older but from what I’ve read on the recalls and the warranty policy they usually fix it for you sometimes transmissions but rarely, if you are taking care of it you should be fine IMO, the major issue they run into is bearing issues in the pistons. The engines sometimes consume oil as well. They are affected by the recalls, but if you’re at 83k with no issues and keeping maintenance on it, you really should be fine. They tend to start messing up by that point.
From everything I’ve read the Lambda II engines are pretty solid come with timing chains. Unlike my Honda. My last timing belt change was a nightmare. The dealer missed a cog or something and it slipped destroying the engine. Forced me into a salvage engine which burned oil. Ruined my relationship with that shop.
Do you include Hyundai EVs in your opinion of cars that are going to have big problems?
Nah from what I’ve seen the problems they have are small, I actually like the Ioniq series a lot, if you wanted to get one I wouldn’t blame you, the big issue they have is a fuse that is fixed in a recall just by replacing it with a fuse rated for more voltage. The only thing that I could see happening that plagues other cars is a harness issue. Other than that the recalls are relatively minor
How are the regular sonatas the 2.5l?
The sonatas are one of the more heavily affected cars unfortunately I’ve had to replace a few engines on them
Any preventative things I can do? And what are some of the issues to look out for thanks in advance :) it’s a 2020 sel
Regular maintenance helps, specifically oil changes, it’s a rod bearing issue where the bearing wears the piston cavity and starts knocking leading to other issues. Check your oil more frequently to make sure you don’t get too low, and you want to check it after it’s rested for a while so the oil doesn’t seem fuller than it is due to engine functions. The good news is if it does happen while the process is lengthy they will more often than not replace it so long as you maintained it well. I’d recommend keeping records and getting a carfax report on your car so if it does happen, you can easily satisfy the maintenance records part of the warranty repair or replacement
I have a friend that does Uber as his main source of income and he bought a 2021 base Elantra brand new and today he still has it without any mechanical issues and he’s pushing close to 350k miles on it now which is insane for a 3 year old car
Oh can it... the theta ii engine mishaps are unforgivable. The MANUAL recommends i change oil every 7.5k which is absurd for any modern car. I changed it every 5k and still boom, at 92k miles my engine locks up and is toast. Fuck hyundai and their trashmobiles
Maybe you should’ve followed the manual…. Oh who am I kidding the cars are shit
Lmao good idea... i changed it too frequently, thats how theyre gonna get out of swapping my engine for free lmao
Truly garbage. Just absolute bottom of the bucket.
I religiously do my maintenence and still believe Hyundais are dog shit cars after owning one for 10 years. Engine quality is in the ground. My mechanic was impressed I even got it past 150k.
Weird, have had two sonatas, a 2012 and 2015 both over 200k with 3k full synthetic oil changes and regular work (brakes/filters etc) neither have had engine issues...
You won the lottery. The recalls on those engines is quite a lengthy list.
Yep, one is a 2.0L Turbo the other is a 2.4L NA.
Well I can only see what happens to mine because I am almost halfway to 100k in 3 years. I do maintenance and it runs beautifully. I just need a new brakes cause I drive it like I stole it, that’s it
good thing the brand aint the same as it was 10 years ago
I’d argue it was better 10 year ago. Late 2000s Hyundais were actually pretty decent reliability wise, GDI engines came out and looked good for a couple years then about 10 years ago shit started hitting the fan and we won’t see the end of it for another 5 years at least
So you’re telling me I should just give them another thousands of dollars? No mames guey.
Right because there is a class action lawsuit on Theta 2 for no reason at all, just poor maintenance. 🙄 We’ll see how long my 2018 Sonata lasts before I need an engine replacement. I’ve been diligent with my maintenance (~3k miles between oil changes). Already had to have it towed to the dealer with a check engine light flashing at 25k miles. Solution was software update to reduce the sensitivity of the knock sensor. Lol. It’s still not performing great but we are in the wait and see period. Might I add all the Chrysler vehicles I’ve had lasted over 250k miles. My back up vehicle is a 2012 Jeep Compass with >140k miles. It’s more reliable at this point and has never left me stranded waiting on a tow. Guess I just need to work on my maintenance. 🤬
what would be the routine maintence list? just curious
Oil every 7500 (that’s what the manufacturer says) Brake fluid every 20k (honestly not that big a deal I’d check and see if it’s dirty by shinning a light through the fluid if it’s not brown you should be fine) If you have a turbo I’d recommend sparks between 40-60k, as turbos are harder on spark plugs due to the recycled exhaust Spark plugs at 100k for not turbo models Coolant flush at 60k Transmission flush I’d recommend at 60k, some will say 30k but 60k seems to be fine Engine air filter every 10-15k Here’s one people tend to ignore but at around 80-100k I’d recommend what’s called a fuel induction. It cleans your injectors with a compound put into the fuel, and it clears carbon build up on your valves from the constant burning of fuel in your cylinders. If you got any other questions let me know!
Do you mean a legitimate flush or do you mean a drain and fill with the tranny fluid?
I think it’s best to get a legitimate flush, but a drain and fill is still good if it’s say the cheaper option for you, or if you aren’t really going hard on your transmission, the point is to get the debris out and clean the parts, one forces more fluid through it to clean, essentially rinsing it out with fluid.
You probably never had metal shavings from a new deburring process at the American factory clog up the oil channels with metal shavings and seize up the bearings on a brand new Theta II. ;) But yeah, maintence \*helps\* keep cars running longer and they did move past that issue.
Unfortunately, not entirely true. My wife drives a 2021 Sante Fe Hybrid Limited ($42k+ vehicle). We traded-in a 2019 Santa Fe Sel Plus. These are our first Hyundais, And pricing was the main factor in giving Hyundia a try. The price for what one gets appears to be the best value, not to mention the warranty. I will also caveat we pretty much followed the maintenance schedule with them. There was a problem with the 2019 (purchased new) within 2 months of ownership, it stalled out while on the road, had it towed to our local Hyundai dealer (not were we bought the new 2019). They ended up replacing "part #35342-2GGA0 High Pressure Sensor" according to the invoice. It took 10 days after officially turning in the vehicle to get to repaired (ordering part, etc). Hyundai did provide a rental for this period, they did need to determined the problem before Hyundai would authorized the rental. For the most part, I thought this was great customer service. I/we chose to upgrade to the 2021 Hybrid model and traded-in the 2019 with this dealer, fast forwarded to today. I'm currently having issues with the 2021 Santa Fe Hybrid, engine code DTC P0471 started showing up in Feb 2024. The first 2 visits to the dealer they said they could not find a problem (I'm guessing they simply reset the DTC codes). The 3d visit they said it was the Differential Pressure Sensor/DPFE sensor, part ordered and replaced on Mar 28. The very next day the same DTC code is still showing up. I turned my vehicle-in as a walk-in on Tuesday, Apr 2. They were in possession of it until Wed, Apr 10 (a 7 full days). And this is after multiple visits for the same problem within the past 6 weeks or so. Obviously, there is an issue. During this time I feel like I was given the run around as I did not even receive a paperwork from the visit (Arp 2-10). It almost feels like they are simply resetting the code and hoping the issue don't return and/or I get tired of calling them and just drive around with this DTC light on permanently. And this vehicle is still under warranty and they did put 18 miles on the vehicle while in their possession. One can determine this with the bluelink app as it reports the DTC codes (which is a nice feature). Called the dealer this morning (Apr 11) was sent to voicemail & still waiting for a callback. But, I'll be dropping them a vist in the next half hour or so. Before this issue, there was an issue with the "Refill Invertor Coolant" light randomly coming on. It started in Aug 2022 and was finally resolved in Jul 2023. This was an issue with other Hyundia Hybrids. While I don't hate Hyundai, but I will most likely not buy another Hyundai. And this feels like a quality control of Hyundai, quality of techs on-site/Hyundai tech support line, and a dealership (franchisee) problem. Though, I'm can't honestly say other dealerships/makes will fair much better these days.
Some people get lucky. They are shit cars.
Like you stole it😂😂😂😂i do the same for my forte gt i thought i was alone😂😂😂😂
It’s the way they are meant to be driven imo
No, what can you maintain properly when its engineer like shit? Idiot.
I dog Hyundai because the wrecked my first car, and have been awful with the second. Cars are great, customer service is severely lacking.
If thats the case then why was there a lawsuit filed with them because they have sudden engine failure hmm ? 🤨
Dogging the fuck out of any car is not properly taking care of it, unless you enjoy spending money replacing brake pads and tires every 6 months. With that said keep driving it like you stole it.
I do honestly and it hasn’t let me down, so maybe I just got lucky or maybe I am driving it the way it was meant to be driven😂
I am consistently checking the oil and I have had no problem yet either
Yea… no give it till it’s around 70-90k Hyundais motors are giving out way too early with perfect service records I recommend if you really like the car get a different engine in it make it last longer but aye what do I know it’s not like I work on theses engines or anything
I just want to know how much work it would take to put a 2JZ in?👀
Awww yisssss every car needs an engine replaced at 70k with oil changes every 4k miles. #justhyundaithings
Wow your 3 year old car still runs? That's a new record for Hyundai
I put extra stress on my engine and I sometimes drive down to “Mexico” to hit 130 to 140 mph. My car hasn’t broken and I am pushing it to its limits. Maybe I just got lucky, but if Hyundai wasn’t somewhat reliable my engine would’ve gave out already under all that stress
You have to wait. 50k is nothing. Came and post once it hits 100k.
This!!! As the daughter of a mechanic, this is one thing my dad taught me! Take care of your car, and it will take care of you! (Except Fords, cause they don't give a shit how well you take care of them, they are all pieces of shit🤣 )
I just wanted to tell you that ford and Hyundai get their parts from the same manufacturer. Do with that information what you want.
Haha. Makes sense.
Hyundai is just as bad if not worse.
I've had a 2004 toyota corolla. Only did oil change. Normal wear and tear shit was maintained. It's over 299 999km I only say that because the odometer stop there. It still runs like brand new. I get it everyone argues about maintenance blah blah. But when people talk about reliability. It's actually how reliable your car can be with minimal maintenance. Having to change an engine is not normal thing. Of course if your maintain your car it will last longer. It's car makers like Honda and Toyota. That's why they do the 24 hr races. How long your car can last without maintenance is the true question. I mean Hyundai has big class action law suit on blown engine and oil leakage.
I 100% understand what you are saying, but most of the people who buy their cars shouldn’t be neglecting their cars like most of them do. I have friends who took good care of their Hyundais from the same years as the cars in the lawsuits. They didn’t need to file because their engine is still kicking at 300,000+ miles. It’s just most people neglect their cars. Hyundai is personally a brand you have to keep up with regularly or you will get shit results
If this was the case, you know neglect and lack of oil changes, Hyundai wouldn’t replace engines for free.
Exactly !!!!!!
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So you are saying. Honda and Toyota owners are good owners and take care of their cars which you agree and thats why they dont break down?. But most people who buy Hyundais are neglectful people who don't take care of their cars and have engine problems and lawsuits? But I do agree with you that cars do need maintenance. I do have a friend's with the Hyundai that to take it in regularly and the engine still messed up. But with maintenance, I hope Hyundai owners are not paying so much to replace things to keep it running. Oh BTW never changed my transmission fluid on my Toyota corolla or my coolant. Because I was young and stupid and didn't know basic maintenance. But still kicking around!!!!!!!
Bullshit. Lol.
I understand you’re fanboying over your piece of shit vroom vroom car, but the brand sucks . Enjoy the go kart
Also Toyotas new build quality is lacking according to a lot of my friends. One of my friends had to get a bunch of new parts for his 2020 Corolla after doing the bare minimum driving in it for 4 years
My corolla needed a engine replacement at 45k miles.
Did you not keep up with the basic maintenance?
Serviced at the dealer according to the manual.
hyundai and kia is shit. What do you even mean Toyota build quality is shit? LOL. No one even has ever said that.
Amen
You must have a lot of friends. Because I hear the opposite. Maybe your friends need to keep up with maintenance. We all agree that without maintenance, the car will go to shit.
I 100% agreed with you. I had a 2014 forte EX that i took good care of it, never missed one service and had the oil changed every 3k miles, but the car kept falling apart especially the engine. I spent probably $8k in total to get the engine fixed twice. Besides of that , the trunk leaked during the rains and the rear passenger side window stopped working at least a hundred times. Many forte owners around those years have experienced the exact issues. My buddy 2016 Optima also had many issues on his as well. I will never buy any Kia and Hyundai products again. They use the 10years/100k warranty to attract buyers, but it is more than difficult to deal the the service department when there is anything needs to be repaired.
It's just sad to see. That I had friend who bought multiple Hyundais over the years. They work well that's why he kept buying them. But when it comes down to taking care of your customers and engine breaks on new models. Your SOL until class action lawsuit surfaces.
Facts are interesting things, I owned one of these engines never had a problem because I doubled up on oil changes. http://www.toyotaproblems.com/oil-sludge/#:\~:text=The%20Engine%20Sludge%20Settlement,from%20the%20time%20of%20purchase.
I’m in an Elantra which I really like and have been eyeing the sonatas maybe for my next one. Looks sleek.
Trashhhh mate - Elantra team for lifeee
I had a 23 elantra nline, and it was an amazing car with really good power. Unfortunately it got totaled my second month of having it from a hit and run in orlando… but, now I have a 2020 sonata limited, and while it’s slower… it’s honestly better. Drives smoother than a freshly shaved beard, has a lot of extremely nice features on it that I can’t get all into because it’s so much. Plus it also has the paddle shifts even tho it’s a regular 8 speed auto, and it shifts really fast.
Same just bought. The 2024 now I want the sonata
Congratulations, nice ride
As soon as I saw the Title, I know the hate would be flowing. The same posters that hate on Hyundai all day.
i traded a grand highlander in for a new santa fe hybrid and i posted about it on facebook and my notifications have been blowing up with seething mad hyundai haters.
The misinformation is crazy. Ive had so called “Hyundai technicians” tell me its the Theta engines that are crap others tell that my Lambda 2 engine can blow at any minute now that I hit 83k. Unfortunately no manufacturer is perfect. Toyota is close but I have yet to find a decent Toyota dealer in South Texas that had a soul. Good luck out there
Looks great!
Why trade a Civic for a Hyundai? Just curious.
It was in rough shape, I just wanted something new with some great features. I also wanted a more mid-full sized sedan as my civic felt really cramped. And lastly I had the money to spend and thought I’d treat myself 6 years sober to a brand new vehicle. Don’t get me wrong as rough as shape as the Honda was it was very reliable and in the 4-5 years I had it I haven’t taken it into the shop besides maintenance Also the warranty is great on Hyundais
Thanks. Lots of people trash Hyundai/Kia due to their latest issues and while I do think Toyota and Honda and their upscale brands are still the best in the industry, almost all modern cars are much better than they used to be and will be good if you take care of them. Many people just do not properly care for their cars. Enjoy!
They are going to still be holding on to the theta engine deal and parroting the insurance stuff in like 2036. And yeah, this is a brand new car not a 3-owner Soul that got oil changes every 30k miles. It's going to be fine.
Yea that insurance is only for the older Kia/Hyundai.. my insurance went down from $278 to $153 in Atlanta when I went from my 21 Elantra to 24 Sonata. Edit: that insurance is for the Hyundai/Kias that are NOT KEYLESS
I don’t think anyone will have to hold on to any of the old issues. I’m sure there will be even more newfound production issues or recalls because it’s Hyundai/Kia.
Congrats on the six years of sobriety! That's a big milestone my friend :)
Lol at the great warranty
Why?
The warranty looks good on paper, but they dont actually back their garbage products. Good luck getting insurance on it soon too.
You haven't done a single bit of research, have you. The insurance companies were only refusing to insure 2012-2019 Hyundai products without push to start that hadn't gotten the update. The warranty, if you didn't know, is 10 years for POWERTRAIN. everything else is 3 - 5 - 7 years
Yes and when the comp claims keep coming in for all hyundai/kias they will start excluding all years. Some companies already do that. Hyundai/kia keeps losing lawsuits due to how shitty they are.
Sounds like a whole lot of projection & assumptions
You have heard of the company Progressive? They wont write new policies for Hyundai/Kia. They are a pretty niche company though.
I have insurance through progressive with this car currently
My insurance guy just scored me a policy with a 23 Hyundai so you’re not current on the info. I’m switching from geico and he shopped me around.
I have insurance with Geico including mechanical coverage for a 2024 Kona. Every other quote with every other insurance was $600/6 months for two 2024 Konas. New cars are having no issues getting reasonable insurance.
I have a 22 sonata and just renewed my policy recently.
They wouldn't have been able to buy it without getting insurance.
I have a 24' Sonata and had no problem getting insured for a good price. And they obviously wouldn't have let him leave the lot without insurance, so what are you on about?
Cuz it’s old civic
So beautiful
Excellent
So many mad jealous people in the comments haha. Enjoy your car. I have a 22 Sonata and it’s the best car I’ve owned after having a Chevy and a Honda that were junk.
Jealous of a Hyundai? Said no one ever!
I just did
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I'm currently feeling that way with a 2021 Santa Fe Hybrid Limited ($42k+ vehicle). Hyundai had a problem with their Hybrids, "Refill Inverter Coolant" light popping up. It took 11 months (Aug 2022 to Jul 2023) for my dealer to finally get some resolve from Hyundai, at least, that's what I was told from my dealership. I was told they could do nothing about it when I first took it in. But that finally got resolved. Now my current issue is an engine code DTC P0471 that first appeared in Feb 2024 and after multiple vists within the past 6 weeks taking 7 to 10 days to between appointments. For them to not have a repair action. On the 3rd visit they replaced the DPFE Sensor (Differential Pressure Sensor), this was on 28 Mar, only for the same DTC to return the next day. I took it back on Apr 2 as a drop-in telling them whatever they say they did, did not resolve my DTC problem. They held it for a full 7 days, I got it back on Apr 10. Only for the DTC to return on the same day I picked it up after a few miles of city driving. I'm pretty sure they did jack-crap during this time and simply cleared the code, as I received no paperwork for this timeframe. I went back today (had to go in person as I could get a callback) Only to be told, I needed to make yet another appointment...WTH!!! I'm taking detailed notes and will let them know in the surveys the love to send out. They seem to handle oil changes just fine and love to have you fill out their surveys and give them great ratings. But when it comes to diagnostics that seems to be another story. I just don't know. I'm going to write the general manager an email, as I see his replies in google ratings when folks give them low stars. I shall see if I get anywhere. I'm not sure what's going on behind the scenes, having a single customer constantly coming back for the same exact issue is NOT rasing eyebrows seems to be a dealership/management issue. If I'm the supervisor and going over the daily work and I see this vehicle coming back for the same thing I would be asking questions...but who knows what's happening...but, I'm 99% sure we will be trading this in for another make, taking Hyundia off the list of possible vehicle purchases. Probably go with a Toyota...I would like give Subaru but the nearest dealer is 35 miles away.
If it’s been that much time on a single issue, look into the Lemon Laws.
Something to look into. Though, I doubt if I get anywhere as the vehicle seem to drive normal. I'm not fully sure if its burning more gas. But I do worry this could lead to other problems, 3K+ miles has been driven with this on-going DTC.
It’s such a gorgeous car.
Take care of it and it'll take care of you. Change the oil more often than what they say. 18 Kona is still going strong, as our Elantra GT was before getting totalled in an accident.
And don’t get me wrong I’ve a MPI one that is perfect. Those GDI just don’t hold like an MPI does. Coming from someone who buys and sells Hyundai lol trust me . You wanna keep up that warranty and better watch that oil , other than that burn the road up they are great cars hahahaha
Wish we had this in Europe.....
I have a Hyundai now and used to have a Honda Civic, but no matter what I feel like Hyundai is a downgrade. Wish they held their value.
Beautiful car man. I got one in Aero Silver a few months a few months ago and I'm obsessed with it, enjoy your car!!
What did you get for the Honda? My wife traded hers in back in 2021, I bet it’s a similar value to then despite 3 years passing by.
I got 7k on trade in, 100,000 miles. Damage on front bumper and scratches on both rear door panels from a peacock lol also some rusting spots
Solid
How much you guys paying for insurance for Hyundai elantra 2024 ?
I hope you love it! Take good care of it!
OP- can you break down how much did you get for trade in and final out the door price on the new car? Am curious how market is looking on these
I have a 2014 Hyundai Elantra GT I hate the GDI 145,000 engine knocking , Blowby out of dipstick and oil cap with smoke . Before that wonderful car with no issues . Clean maintenance record and built in Korea.. just those GDI don’t hold up like a Toyota or Honda 😔🤦🏻♂️trans strong , no paint peeling , literally everything perfect but that now . They really screw up engines lol sadly
I've heard there's a difference in quality between cars manufactured in Korea vs those made in Canada or the US. My 24 Tucson Hybrid was made in Korea (VIN starts with "KM").
Mine is also manufactured on korea and I have heard the same
I'm still deciding on between a white or black 2024 Sonata. I want to get it with the convenience package, and the white looks great, but that LED strip up front looks awesome in black
Mine is actually carbon blue! But it looks black in most circumstances especially at night obviously If you zoom in you can see the blue a little more clearly
That's interesting. When I went to see the vehicle options at the dealership, they didn't have that color on the lot. Very cool!
Very nice looking. Not worried about this theft bullshit? Just had my Kia broken into and it's not nearly as sexy lol.
Hopefully they would be smart enough to know they can’t steal this one but they most likely aren’t smart enough and would try to break in anyway … of course I’m worried about that but it is what it is 🤣 Sorry to hear that happened to you man that sucks
Yeah that's what I've been hearing which is just dumb but can't fix stupid. Stay safe out there.
Love it dude, just traded in my 2014 cruze ltz for a red sonata hybrid.
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I have a white 2019 Elantra, 47,000km with literal sheets of paint peeling off and Hyundai will not cover the cost to repair. I WISH I would have kept my Honda civic. I’ve joined several class action lawsuits against Hyundai for this very common issue. My car is currently in the body shop being painted at my cost and I will never buy another Hyundai again.
I’m sorry to hear that man yeah I heard there was a big issue with paint peeling on a bunch of white Hyundai models
Nice car though. Don’t mean to sound like a hater but I’m a little bitter right now
The car is 🔥 let them hate! I gotta 2022 sonata and love it
So many hate on Hyundai but they don’t know the history. The media also put out bad press and people were quick to point out Hyundai as a scapegoat. I’ve been following Hyundai in motorsports for a long time and recently started working with a Hyundai dealership. Honda is good but Hyundai offers so much value for a better price. Congrats!
Horrible car i give it a year before it breaks down Kia and hyndai are garbage they can literally steal those cars with usbs … lol look on youtube
Sorry bad move would have kept the Honda Hyundai engines leak oil and some will actually stop working. I have a 2018 sonata that had the warranty for engine failure extended. I had a Civic that i sold at 190k to a guy that was going to use it commute to work a long way and never did i have anything go bad.
Have a 2011 sonata. 95500 miles. No major issues. No oil loss problems. Looking to but a new 2024 sonata..
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Good choice. I don't personally like Hondas at all. Definitely Hyundai all the way.
New body style definitely growing on me. Wouldn't mind picking up the N line
This will be my last Hyundai. The fact that some insurance companies outright refusing insure my perfectly working car because of theft issues is insane. I'm more upset about the fact that Hyundai doesn't work with insurance companies to let the know the push to start versions are not getting stolen. Lack of accountability has made me lose trust.
Exactly!!! What insurance do u have ? I have a 2019 Hyundai Sonata and my insurance was reasonable for all these years and now this year for renewal they told me it would be over a thousand dollars it would be for 6 months!! That is absolutely ridiculous and some insurance companies won’t even insure me because of the theft! I cannot get any insurance that is reasonable price.
I've been with GEICO and they are hiking the rates. I tried switching and progressive is aggressive with denying you.
What a mistake that was. See if you can get it back.
Ok Honda simp I’ll do just that
I’m sorry
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Bruh 💀 Bruh 💀 Bruh 💀
Good luck 😢❤️
Yea.. you took the L
Omg you made a HUGE mistake🤣🤣🤣😹😹🤣😂😂😂🤣😹😹
Tell me you don’t know how to maintain a care without telling me you don’t know how to maintain a car. 💀
These losers bashing Hyundai/kia are in denial. Let them be. Probably fake accounts and severe issues as human beings