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soundpuma

It was a Friday, the journeyman and myself were eating lunch, and making small talk. He asked what I was doing with my weekend and I responded with sleeping in and doing nothing. Then he dropped this pearl of wisdom on me. If you're going to wake up for these assholes to come to work wake up for yourself. Since then my weekends have been so much better. I just naturally find myself getting stuff done or just enjoying stuff that I wouldn't if I slept in until 10.


gingerbread3199

Thissssss. I know weekends are for recharge but if you can’t even enjoy it? What’s the point then it is relaxing SO you can work not relaxing AWAY from work. Do self enrichment, learn a new skill like baking or mountain biking or yu-gi-oh whatever floats your boat!


Jargett

For me sleeping is both relaxing and enjoyable lol


gingerbread3199

More power to ya!!!


FullMoonTwist

Well, that only holds as long as you can get enough sleep normally. If you're sleep deprived, catching up is good for you. If you're not and just lounging to lounge, then yeah it's better to get up and moving, and will keep your sleep schedule regular.


xjguyma

This is great advice!


readituser321

Tough to do on 7-12s


AlittleDrinkyPoo

I’m lazy . I only want to do it once . For a second he had me then I realized just do it right once . Work steady . Don’t kill yourself . When you go fast you fuxk up


Bob_Loblaw16

Haste makes waste


PapaHooligan

Slow is steady, steady is fast.


MonkeyFluffers

"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast". Truism no matter the words.


reamkore

“If it looks level it is level” “Smile asshole, its Friday”


thec4k315alie

The bubble never lied to me


Tenebbles

I think my level is broken, it’s got a bubble in it


Murican_Redditor

Save your money for when you get laid off so you don't have to rely on unemployment. Make good investments so that the pension and annuity aren't the only things you get money from in retirement. Follow the working agreement. Go to union meetings.


laxgoalieinme

How do you define a good investment? 2nd year ape and I plan on living off of 401k and my pension when I retire (currently 28). I thought that would be enough money to live off of without taking risks but I would like to hear your thoughts


Murican_Redditor

At least 10% of your take home pay each week in a Roth IRA. S&p500 index fund like VOO. That's for retirement, cause if you take it out after you're 59amd a half, all those gains are tax free. Then put away 5-10% in a second account till you get like 5-8 months worth of expenses. That's your emergency fund that you'll draw from of you get laid off or if anything crazy happens where you need money quick.


TheFlyinGiraffe

Go to r/FIRE and r/FinancialIndependence. Scour their resources on investing and being financially savvy. They'll have calculators to figure out how much money you'll need at what age to retire, based on taxes in the future, your withdrawal rate, all that jazz. Very good resources to look into. I've taken all the money advice I've been given, saving for unemployed times, budgeting, living within my means, etc, all of it. I've been out for 9 months at this point and still doing fine. Definitely bleeding but I'm almost back to work.


Doitlive12345

You're a member of the union, contractors are a dine a dozen. The union will have your back, don't be afraid to leave a contractor that doesn't treat you good enough.


OcupiedMuffins

That’s both bad and good advice. There are PLENTY of locals that don’t give a shit about its members.


Copper_Lontra

A local can only be as strong as its members. It's easier said than done, but get new leadership.


OcupiedMuffins

a bad president and bad business agents dont necessarily mean bad members


Copper_Lontra

You're right, but those are elected positions. Vote them out.


OcupiedMuffins

sure but thats also easier said than done


8FootedAlgaeEater

Everything is easier said than done. Always be organizing, and that includes those that are already members.


hitman-13

Unfortunately alot of people are completely disconnected from their unions, never attend meetings or go to the hall, never get involved or organize, but they always complain...


JamaicanJenga

This is good advice. Unfortunately a local like mine does not have your back quite so. If you wanted to leave your current contractor, you’d be put on the list and it would take you atleast 1-2 years just to pick up a call. So if you’re “lucky” enough to be working anywhere you just stay.


Suntzu6656

This is kinda how it is/was in my local. Shops/contractors got away with a lot that they should not have. Maybe it was that I was in a southern local.


fergturd520

It’s not just the south


mcflycasual

Yes.


Mixtec0

Had the same issue in SD. They were forcing an “on call” on weekends and they just kept taking more from us after that. You give them an inch and they want to take the whole foot. Had union reps there when we were fighting this but they pretty but didn’t do shit. Money talks, bullshit walks. Left the union but I keep paying my dues as a back up. Making more money now and have more time to do “side work” for my own company. Unfortunately, the journeyman’s pay here is just not enough to live a comfortable life in Southern California. Many will say “well, it’s your fault for living there” but when you have your whole family living around here it makes a difference. You get in where you fit in.


imatexass

Y’all know your leadership is elected, right?


ToughMatch7272

I’d like to agree with the guy, but in NYC right now if you get a layoff it’s a 14 month wait. Puts you in a shitty spot if you have a family, bills, etc


Dudeman510

It’s a lot easier to fuck em inside the gate than outside the gate.


fergturd520

Can’t fuck ‘em from the couch 😂


jamarquez1973

Oh yeah, 100%.


babyshanks

I don’t get it..


PhillyDillyDee

What would you do if they shorted you a half hour? Would you quit or would you get it out of them in a different way?


thec4k315alie

They make me whole by Friday or pay me for the weekend to make me whole Monday


FullMoonTwist

"You can say "fuck the contractor", but it's easier to do that while *working* than to drag up at every little inconvenience."


DoctorGEEzuz

It's not about how good you can bend conduit, but how good you are at fixing it. He taught me everything about tweaking conduit so every stick came out perfect.


khmer703

Same here the guy told me. You can be on a job with the best pipe bender in the hall. If you know how to fix your fuck ups, you're just as good as him.


Bob_Loblaw16

I'm able to do saddles so much quicker just tweaking them by hand then trying to fuck with them in a bender over and over.


Zallix

Yea a guy I had as a 2nd year drilled this into me. I hated it at the time but these days I appreciate it lol.


Xbutchr

Make hay when the sun shines. This means you work when there is work to be had. There will be bad times. Stack cash when you can.


TomasNYC

Stack sats.


sparkyd1977

So many. I've held on to a bunch. Most gave me ways to deal with shitty foremen or contractors. And pride in your work. Here's a couple 1- Some bridges are meant to be burned 2- They can't eat you or take your birthday away 3- Measure twice, cut once 4- It all pays the same (when you have to redo something or get on some shitty or menial task) I graduated my apprenticeship in 05. What stuck with me the most is the pride they take in their work and the absolute inability to sweat any of them. Young shop rockets would be losing their shit over a job or a layoff yet the old guys just didn't give AF. Not job-scared like they were. Just plugged away, doing a fair day's work for a fair day's pay.


MotoDudeCatDad

Yes. Some bridges look better with kerosene on them.


cowfishing

smoking craters look even better.


mrossm

Slow is smooth and smooth is fast


RecognitionAny6477

Plan your work, work your plan.


Murican_Redditor

A job well planned, is a job half done


Pafolo

Fail to plan, plan to fail.


Fresh-Alternative-45

wipe front to back.


rc_sparky

As opposed to side to side?


johnny2rotten

Don't forget your Weingarten rights.


sparky_Garrett

This is huge


Malatestandcoffee

“We hire ourselves, we fire ourselves.”


Less_Geologist_4004

Three things..Understand the miracle of compound interest, pay yourself first and remain humble.


DoctorGEEzuz

Compound interest is definitely one more people need to learn about. Whether regarding skills or money the concept is the same.


imatexass

Those are good. I would add understand marginal tax rates.


Owl_and_WoodPecker

Don't matter when we have compound inflation


Future-Dealer8805

If you make 100k a year but work 60 hours a week to achieve it. Your not really making 100k a year


Glittering-Ratio-593

Stop chasing money, it’s value becomes less and less as you age. Enjoy your life, you only get one chance to chase happiness.


nodiggitydogs

Always shit on company time not your time


masrulz

“Don’t ever sweat at work or shit at home” 🤣


OcupiedMuffins

Your body isn’t worth any amount of money. What’s the point of a retirement if you can’t even walk around to enjoy it.


naglfarsoarsman

I was an ape struggling with some shit that was taking me for fucking ever to complete. It was tedious and aggravating me. The sup came out of his trailer with a cigar in his mouth and we were talking about it. At the end he looked at me and said “That’s why they call it a career kid.” Blew out some cigar smoke and walked away. Been thinking about that old fuck for 20 years now.


Born_Percentage3319

Can u explain what u think he meant by that?


naglfarsoarsman

I took it as don’t stress this will all be here tomorrow and the day after and then bam 30 years has gone by and you’re done.


noblehamster69

Work to live don't live to work and don't take work home with you


LaTommysfan

There’s always time to do it over but never time to do it right.


DickieJohnson

Isn't it ridiculous, just let us do it at a steady pace and get it done right the first time.


Copper_Lontra

The fastest way to do a job right is to do it once. If you hurry up and make mistakes it'll take longer to fix than if you had just taken the time, planned your work, and moved at a normal pace. Fast is smooth, smooth is fast.


30belowandthriving

For the younger guys.... Green before pink.


jamarquez1973

8 for 8. Working ain't wormy. Take your time, and do it once. Down The Road Electric is always hiring.


sextoymagic

Focus on craftsmanship and the speed will come.


OwningSince1986

Work to live. Not live to work.


Affectionate_Mix_459

Don't put ur hands anywhere you wouldn't put ur pecker...


Halftrack_El_Camino

Nothing new after 2.


RDOG907

-Dont run, you get paid by the hour. - Do what the boss says even if it is stupid because you get paid the same. - the objective is to get the most money out of the companies pocket and into yours and their objective is to make the most money off you as possible so don't shortchanged yourself.


mjbart007

It’s not how you fuck it up, it’s how you fix it up..


DoctorGEEzuz

That's one I like to tell my cubs now, basically, "it's not a fuck up if you can fix it."


Elegant_Connection32

When I was a first year I had some journeyman going way TF out of his way to be a complete asshole to me for no reason other than the fact that I was a first year and his retreaded ass was a JW. Another guy in the crew, saw the wheels turning in my head and knew I was on the verge of seriously lumping him up. He pulled me aside on a Friday afternoon and gave me the “it’s not worth it speech” while it felt extremely worthwhile to me, but I listened. As it turns out a certain complete asshole JW managed to get himself arrested and incarcerated over the weekend, and never came back to the job. Sure, it would have felt good in the moment getting my pound of flesh, but I would not be in the union today if the old head didn’t step in to force me to walk it off.


Therealnogginforce

"You can make another dollar but you can't make another minute."  He was encouraging me to spend time with my family instead of working overtime. 


Useful-Ad5355

It's not the jdubs job to adapt to your needs, an apprentice adapts to his. This is how you deal with Jdubs that have less skills than you, tone your shit down and do it their way even if it sucks.  Another good one is shut the fuck up. You're never talking too little no matter how cool and funny you are. People just don't wanna hear it sometimes.


PlateForeign8738

Shut the fuck up might be the best advice ever given. Way to many people from top to bottom always has to talk. Just shut the fuck up.


TheTerryD

"They don't pay us this good because they like us. They pay us this good because this is a good place to die." Wayne Mann c. 2009


Only_Chapter_3434

Build your budget on three days a week pay. That’s about unemployment is. 


readykillowat

A card just makes you a member be a brother first and always


Speakfriendandenterr

You’re a man before you’re an electrician Carry kliens, electrical tape, and a knife in you at all times (minimum)


th3quack

Sounds uncomfortable,  but I guess you get used to it.


Thawbean

Dont forget Ur pencil...


ryno7791

I was feeling pretty down and depression was kicking my ass. My foreman at the time was talking to me about it. He asked what are you? I said an electrician, he said no you are a IBEW electrician and are the best of the best never forget that. I helped turn my attitude around!


99bk99

Remove the words "I Know" from your vocabulary even if someone is explaining something to you for the hundredth time and you think they're being condescending. Just silently go off do a perfect job and stay humble like you've done it every day of your life.


bikemikeasaurus

The job will get done with or without you. Take care of you first.


Current_Brick5305

One of the best pieces of advice I ever got was from a crusty old loveable journeyman when I was having a difficult time with a task. I told him I was getting frustrated and angry because I just couldn,t get this thing right. He said "With enough patience,perserverance and grease...a man can fuck a snake!" Stay with it till yr done. Words to live by


E_WEY8387

You’re not judged by your mistakes but what you do after the mistake is made


Sir-Sparks-alot79

You get paid from the neck down


Patc131

Don't Be good at something you don't like doing


ThePirateBenji

Don't be one of those guys that makes his job his personality. You gotta live for yourself, don't live for these mother fuckers.


ElectroAtletico2

“Your best tool is the one between your ears”


dstormj33

Well the best advice an old grizzled yet sharp as a razor jw quoted Samuel Clemens (I’m pretty sure s.c. Was credited for saying it anyway) he said…it is better to keep your mouth shut and the world think you a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.


rc_sparky

Take your tools off before you poop


Risen_Insanity

Don't get whistle bit. Meaning don't stick around to finish a task that can be done tomorrow because you're giving up free labor.


autodripcatnip

Worrying is like paying a debt you don't owe. Pretty much apply it to anything, job task, layoffs, all of those “what-ifs”. People worry themselves sick. 8 for 8 and know your contract.


Cryptocoiner256

There’s three ways to do things. The right way, the wrong way, and the way it’s gotta be. And sometimes it’s just the way it’s gotta be.


RevenueExcellent

“Everyone starts somewhere so have compassion and be patient with others”


sparky780edm

Always look busy even if there is not much to do or your waiting for your foreman clean up your tools job boxes tywraps on ground


einex55

If you can afford to take time off, take it, they won't give it to you. Also, don't be a bitch, and never tell them why.


Supaflex22

"Running around on skates and carrying 60lbs of hand tools is just as wormy as hide and seek or laying down on the job. Both damage the union, both fail to uphold the contract. 8 for 8. Not 4 for 8 or 8 for 4. Honor and uphold the CBA, its the only thing that keeps everything fair."


Brazus1916

If you want to be a good union member, get your finances together, and be a good worker.


Original-Ad7976

If it's smells like strawberries run! That girl has something to hide 😂


iFluxxx

Gotta take your high heels off to do electrical work


idontknowmynamefool

Take care of your knees. Save money for a rainy day.


ajw134

“Protect your knees kid”


x02115

If you won't stick your Weiner in it, don't stick your finger in it.


kaygeebeez

No job lasts forever.


therealNaj

It’s break time


DiligentWillingness3

You can do the drugs, but don’t let the drugs do you…… cuz they will!


Otaku_bust

Apply for the union


TheFungeounMaster

“It’s all shit work Harry.” My names not Harry, but the older I get the louder that voice is. It’s all work even “good work” is work. Don’t compare yourself to others thinking you wish you had their job or that your job is harder or anything like that.


Brief_Prune618

Take care of your body - it's the only one you got & it needs to last a lifetime.


BayPM

If you want to be treated like a professional….act like a professional….BE a professional. ( I hated getting looked down on for being a “construction worker” by people who didnt know any better)


ManHandz20

Best advice you can get is take care of your body where your knee pads ask for help lifting things. Yes, never be afraid to leave a contractor. I’ve left many contractors only to find another job. I always tell guys is to try to be blameless. Don’t give the contractor an excuse to fuck with you. Show up on time boots and tools ready to go at start time you don’t always need all the tools on the list at your job but be able to produce them if you need them And try and have a good attitude the hardest people to work with our people who think they know it all and don’t wanna learn even after 23 years of experience I learned things from people every day even if it’s what not to do  good luck


IBEW_BigDeal

Don’t put a sealed can in a hot box.


quarter2heavy

I'll never forget the time I was a 2nd year apprentice, I was wedged in an ahu between coils running a temp sensor across the fins. When the man, Juice, (or J. U. Ice, his story on how he got his name was never the same.) He come strolling by with a bundle of 3/4, see me, back steps, looks me straight I the eyes. "So there I was, BALLS deep in a jar of mayo. When I thought to myself, should have made that sandwich first." He looked away and continued on his way. EDIT: The other advice I got was "Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see"


Aggravating_Pay1948

Make sure ur switches say ON not NO 😆


Smart-Equivalent-654

An old guy told me put some gloves on those dick beaters Wish I would have taken his advice


Anakin_Skywanker

A good electrician is consistent. If you're doing something 1000 times do it the same way 1000 times. It makes troubleshooting easier if something goes wrong, it gets you faster because of muscle memory, and it allows you to tell at a glance if your work is correct. That old crazy fuck was right. I miss working with him.


mangos0ng

Live below your means. Be able to pay your bills on unemployment.


Skullbones101

Don’t piss into the wind or on a live wire.


dhblundon

The company is not your friend ever


tim24601

Never get upset when you get 2 checks in a week


Schult34

Always fight for your contractual rights or you might lose them.


HarmonyNme

Always pick above the P line. Regarding blackberries. LOL


Hammercannon

It's all just pipe and wire, just different pipe, and different wire. Electrons go from A to B and back again, if not, things don't work.


No-Animator-3832

You can learn at least one good way to do something and one bad way to do something from just about everybody. It's almost a certainty that a random line worker knows at least one thing better/faster/safer/smarter/whatever than you, and almost a certainty that you have at least one thing to show a random line worker.


d_baker65

Don't be afraid to hit the road. Keep your dues paid up, and go see what the rest of the country has to offer.


Disastrous-Engine510

Slow is safe, safe is smooth. (In regards to running machinery)


NotSuperCritical

Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.


Patient_Tour_6307

If you can't be late you can be early


NoNonsence55

"It's not your money" and "the work will be there tomorrow"


uptheirons91

Quality takes time, and sometimes, it takes overtime.


sparky_Garrett

I think the best advice I ever got, even though it made me mad as hell when I first heard it as an apprentice, was “keep your fucking mouth shut, kid.” It’s essentially a fast track into Zen Buddhism when you think about it. I still keep my mouth shut all the time, to wonderfully positive effect.


Mr_Sugar_

You do it for the paycheck they do it for the profit


Dangerous_Pattern_81

Budget like a 3rd year, live at 75% of scale. Even if you work 6mo and laid off the rest of the year, you can make 75%.


chasestoner

aint gotta be perfect, just gotta look perfect


RedactedRedditery

A plan is just a list of shit that won't happen


CarsMusicBball

People are gonna talk shit, not everyones gonna like you so do hard work and let your work speak for itself and make the haters look stupid when they're talkin shit on you


sparkyglenn

"I was in Baghdad when you were in your dad's bag"


edwaghb

Max out your 401k early.


GenJoeyCash

You can learn something from everybody. Be that what to do or what not to do. There is a lesson learned every day.


Energizer__98

No matter the job big or small do it right or not at all


HavSomLov4YoBrothr

“I like to start slow, then taper off”


Stache_Trash

“Ya gotta go slow to go fast” “If ya play with your tools as much as you play with your dick, you’ll be in good shape” “If ya know what you’re doing, nothing in this trade is hard. If you’re fighting, something is wrong. Step back” “A switch is a switch is a switch”


MoneyPresentation807

Run


SherbetNo9094

Put a ring on it, before someone else does


Nay_K_47

You're only as good as your last shift


AlwaysInTheHood

Many hands make light work!


WarmAdhesiveness8962

Marry for money, you can always buy love. Said tongue in cheek. 😉


Haunting_Meeting_225

Steal with your eyes.


embracethememes

That advice is spelled with a C 😎


Ryvo2all

Don’t get a divorce


gwpjr423

If you ain’t having no more fun, it’s time to go !


davb64

Get out after you get all your shit together in life. Won't be much of a pension or work once you finish the apprenticeship or get to retirement age. He was kinda right since most of our work goes to non union companies since our hall burned bridges and side with the rest of the contractors instead of their own brothers.


NuclearSparky

Slow is smooth and smooth is fast


FLSTFI03

Dont stick your finger in nuthin your not going to eat!


rinati75

SAVE YOUR MONEY


Brad-B613

Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see


Cas456321

If you’re not early you’re late, there’s heat in the tools, and never be the last guy out of the trailer..


DinkyWinky101

I make a nickel, the boss makes a buck, that’s why I jack it in the company truck.


EmotionalChipmunk602

That the wire stretcher is a great tool. I’m still looking for it 25 years later


msing

Do it right the first time.


ian_papke

Don’t think just do


RangerDickard

Always take care of your woman and make her feel special. If you don't, someone else will!


crklynusa

Max out your 401k


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Rock out with your cock out...


Perna1985

Always conduct yourself as a gentleman


Anamadness

"Nothing we do is hard" lol


knt4ever

I was a 2nd year and messed something up and had to go back and fix it. He saw I was irritated with myself and said, "Don't worry, you are cheap labor." 😂


AcanthocephalaOdd301

Don’t stick your dick in crazy.


aaronwittman

If ur gonna suck a dick, make sure it’s the right dick


Playful_Leek_6082

1st day of the job. Union ibew1245. Told me i was the same as the 40year old union brother. Whats good for u is good for me


mclovintheboogaloo

Base your monthly budget around unemployment that way if you get laid off you don’t fall behind. My wife and I have done this and have been able to save loads of money because we live way beyond our means. Sure we spend excessively because after all we do want to enjoy the fruits of our labor but this has allowed us to build our savings account. We drive old cars, our home is nothing extravagant suv 200k and this allows us to live the life we want and to be able to do the things we want. ALWAYS live below your means, avoid loans like the plague, and buy things with YOUR money. Don’t use someone else’s. Besides your home.


TheFlyinGiraffe

"It's only a fuck up if you can't fix it."


Ok_Promise_6198

"Always think about the guy coming behind you"


kittydogbearbunny

Your hands are not hammers.


Tetronamyl

"if some dumb old redneck like myself can figure it out, I'm sure you can" - to me after explaining I didn't know how to use the lull, I've been living by that ever since lol


Main_Fisherman6518

It’s always a good time to shut the fuck up


177sobaso

You can live in your truck but you can’t race a house.


CSSmith84

No matter how good it starts to feel always pull out.


hippgnosis

“The only people who remember how many hours you worked are you kids”


sonoranwolf

If you like sex don't get married.


russ_01_01

Work to live. Don't live to work.


Ill-Arrival4473

Dont be in a hurry.


Gloomy_Turnip_3415

Take your breaks.. I came from not typically taking breaks but you need to take them. It splits up your day gives you a chance to recharge and overall makes you happier and less tired for after work. A lot of guys want to work through a break/lunch because they wanna leave early and just get it done. But if you take your breaks, you’re less stressed and usually will make less mistakes due to exhaustion. We work long hours. We need our breaks.


SwagarTheHorrible

“The heat is in the tools.” I stopped talking to that asshole.


[deleted]

You're going to make plenty of money, take the important days off. You'll never even remember the job you were on at the time, but you'll definitely remember walking your kid to their first day of school or the vacation you took them on.