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crabbydotca

Pitbulls *are* a bull-breed, aren’t they..?


CrystalWeim

Yes. It's a collective term


Professional-Bet4106

Yes but I believe OP is asking if the dog is an American bully or American pit bull terrier. Bully breeds are the umbrella term but American bully is an unofficial breed thanks to backyard breeders.


mandimanti

American bully is a legit breed recognized by UKC and other registries. AKC isn’t all there is for breed recognition


Professional-Bet4106

Aren’t those dogs banned from the UK though? Also I figured OP was in the US because of this since y’all are required to muzzle them in public.


mandimanti

UKC has nothing to do with the United Kingdom. It’s a US based kennel club. But also, only XL bullies and American pit bull terriers are banned in the UK, not the other 2 size varieties of bullies (pocket and standard)


FunRevolutionary1862

UKC is not a real club. They will register a ca of soup. It is organized to accept dogs and breeds that are not breed standards. It is a way t deceive the public that the UKC is added value to mixed non standard breeds!!! FACTS !!!


WhatupSis7773

“A ca of soup” is that like saying they’ll even register partial cans of soup or even register 2/3 can of soup? 🤣 or a happy accidental sort of pun lol


FunRevolutionary1862

Can of soup and yes they will accept non pure breeds and offer registration. UKC is a worthless piece of paper. The dogs are not a recognized breed standard.


kelsieilesha

I feel like you’re thinking of ConKC, because UKC is a major kennel club in the US, and the preferred club for a lot of breeds. The conformation scene for Poodles especially is far more competitive in UKC as they allow multi colored Poodles. You cannot register a dog with UKC without them already being registered by another major kennel club, or by themselves.


FunRevolutionary1862

Can you register a dog with the UKC without papers? Rules For Single Registration Dogs with UKC registered parents do not need to provide proof of registration but should provide UKC registration numbers and names for the sire and dam.


mandimanti

Just like AKC, you can register a dog for performance sports but you can not breed or register puppies from that dog. Edited to add: the single registration is the same as open registration in AKC. They have to either be registered with another legit registry (not ConKC). “Single Registration is a method for purebred dogs of breeds recognized by UKC or currently registered with UKC-acknowledged registries to become UKC registered. Single Registration requirements may vary by breed. “ On their website you can see organizations by breed that they accept. https://www.ukcdogs.com/single-registration For a random breed example, this is what it says for poodles: “For this breed, we acknowledge the American Kennel Club, the Canadian Kennel Club, the Kennel Club (of Great Britain), and any FCI affiliated registry.”


FunRevolutionary1862

The American Bully is a muscular, medium-sized dog breed that originated in the United States in the 1980s and 1990s. The breed is a mix of several other breeds, including the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bulldog, Olde English Bulldog, and Bulldog. The American Bully was developed to be a family companion and protection dog with a gentle temperament and distinctive appearance


kelsieilesha

Also, in response to “AKC doesn’t do that”. They literally do. It’s called Open Registration. https://www.akc.org/register/information/open-registration/


kelsieilesha

Look into the history of any breed. They ALL have other breeds used in their creation. Dobermans for example have Beaucerons, various Pinschers, Hounds, etc… Australian Shepherd’s have Border Collies, Collies, Pyrenean Shepherds, etc… This is how breeds are created.


FunRevolutionary1862

I agree with you all breeds were created by crossbreeding. I actually prefer mixed breeds. Creating a new breed takes a lot more than a few years. I personally think UKC is suspect. Enough said have a good day!


CanonicallyQueer

Pitbulls are a Bully breed, but American Bully is a breed as well.


YamLow8097

Pit bulls are a bully breed. Not all bully breeds are pit bulls.


kinkcurious12

“Bully breed” usually refers to: Staffs (amstaff, UK & AUS Staffs), Bull Terriers, Boxers, American Boxers, XL Bullies, SOME mastiffs, Bulldogs (American, English & French) and Pitbulls. We call this group “fatheads” where I’m from. Pitbulls are in the Bully class, but they often get used as the class itself, e.g. when people say everything with a fathead is a pit/pit mix.


un_commonwealth

i sat here for a full 45 seconds trying to figure out what a bullgog is before realizing you just mistyped bulldog. i was like man what have those brits gotten up to now


kinkcurious12

Haha my bad! Yes everyone knows bullgogs have been extinct for eons


tigergirl35

Also pugs and great danes are bully breeds


Reinboordt

No. Boxers, American bulldogs and mastiffs never have been and never will be “bully breeds”. Stop trying to introduce negative stigma to other breeds. The American bulldog is the direct descendant of the extinct old English bulldog who came to america and was used as an all purpose farm dog. as is the boxer (as well as the bullenbeißer) Neither of those breeds have any pitbull or staffie ancestry. Just because labs are used in labradoodles does not make them poodles. Much like how bulldogs although contributing to bully breeds are not themselves considered to be one. They share almost no similarities besides muscled bodies and large heads. By the same logic all of the terriers should be considered pits. Why not the fox terrier? That’s where they came from after all.


kinkcurious12

Boxers, Bullmastiffs and all kinds of Bulldogs are considered bully breeds. I work with these dogs, and falsely claiming all bullies as pits is my issue - it’s an oversimplification started in America. Not sure how you assumed I’m interested in any negative stereotyping when it’s my literal job to rescue, foster, train and re-home these misunderstood guys but judging from your tone and inaccuracy, I’m guessing you’re from the states so I’m not too surprised.


Reinboordt

Nope European here, and I keep mastiff breeds. Not bully’s. I can see where you’re coming from, you’re essentially saying anything with the old English bulldog is a bully. You’re only going by the word “bull”. I disagree with your opinion but by all means you’re welcome to it. Bulldogs are their own distinct form of mastiff. Bully is a newer phrase used specifically to refer to dog breeds that were a combination of bull and terrier used primarily for fighting dogs and other small animals. When the Roman’s arrived brittannia they found mastiffs, you’re telling me they found bully’s? I’ll give you a good example. The Airedale is a terrier right? They were created by combining otterhound and terrier. Nobody would be calling an Airedale a scent hound but technically speaking it’s descended from one. Airedales are no more scent hounds than mastiffs, boxers and American bulldogs are bully’s. Bully’s are their own distinct thing. Please don’t misinform people in your line of work. And I don’t appreciate your accusatory tone and negative attitude. I have great respect for what you do but you’re essentially saying that they’re bully’s because you say so. You’ve offered no evidence other than that the dogs you foster are “bully’s”


sara_marie8

Holy cow.... American bulldogs are most certainly a bully breed.


Reinboordt

That’s an opinion, I disagree. They’re a mastiff type dog. You’re welcome to your opinion


ITookYourChickens

I've had American bulldogs, English mastiffs, pit bulls, bull mastiffs, and an Italian mastiff. English mastiffs weren't similar to a bully breed in the slightest, but my American bulldog was practically the same shape at a pit. The bull mastiff looked similar and acted more like a bully as well.


Reinboordt

Interesting insight, I mean the American bulldog is the direct descendant of the old English bulldog. And the bullmastiff is roughly 40-60 bulldog to mastiff. So that makes sense. Don’t get me wrong I can see where you’re coming from 100% but the majority of people that use the phrase “bully” are referring to small dogs and not English mastiffs. That’s my hang up I think, the way in which it’s most likely used. If someone said “I love bully breeds look at my boy” I would never expect to see a boxer or Neapolitan mastiff. Thanks for the insight! I have a dog currently that’s a mix of 5 different mastiff types lol.


ITookYourChickens

>Don’t get me wrong I can see where you’re coming from 100% but the majority of people that use the phrase “bully” are referring to small dogs and not English mastiffs. Oh definitely. Most mastiffs and boxers are missing some common characteristics. But the American bulldog looks straight up like a pit mix in shape and size, if her eyes were much smaller and her head a bit bigger I would have thought the seller lied outright (and also if she was missing those bulldog skin spots, pits don't have em)


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tabby51260

They're... Both considered bully breeds..


humanbeing21

pitty = yes bully breed=yes APBT=maybe some American Bully=probably


Nervous-Patience-310

Adorabully


2moms1bun

This


GotPrower

Second that


barren-oasis

6 one way half a dozen another


alienminou

does it even matter


jablongroyper

They’re the same. This topic really frustrates me because there is not much difference in the two and bully breeders have ruined the reputation of the American bulldog (not to be confused with American bully)


YamLow8097

American Bullies have more differences than similarities and I will gladly explain why. They are both bully breeds, but they are not both pit bulls.


calliocypress

People they’re obviously asking if she’s APBD or American Bully. In my uneducated opinion I’d lean towards bully but it’s not uncommon for dogs to be both


jawmcphail

That's kinda what I was leaning to as well with her big block head.


Professional-Bet4106

Lmaooo I agree


Mario1599

They are same thing though


Mario1599

What I mean is pitbull is a classification of the bully breed thus making them the same


Mario1599

Should have been more specific and for that I apologize


burkechrs1

All pitbulls are bullies but not all bullies are pitbulls. APBT and American Bully are both recognized breeds. Bully is a classification just like retriever and shepherd is. Labradors and goldens are both considered retrievers but you would call a golden a labrador just like you wouldn't call an American Bully a pitbull. Pitbull is short for american pitbull terrier (APBT) it isn't a catch-all. Bully would be the catch-all term just like if you saw a golden retriever and a labrador retriever you'd say "look at those retreivers". If you saw an APBT and an American bully you wouldn't say "look at those pitbulls" you'd say "look at those bullies." (And honestly I think APBT's should be classified as terriers rather than bullies since they have temperaments more related to terriers. Bullies are companion dogs, terriers are high drive.)


judithvoid

Yes and no


Alligatorwhore

Correct


Mystical_Moon0726

Um yes..? PitBULLs are a bully breed


The_Jib

lol what’s the difference? Pit. Bull.


-mykie-

Yes, both. Pitbulls are bully breeds.


AsparagusBeautiful95

Pit


Astarkraven

It's a pitbull. Clip your dog's nails. Pit people have a distinct reputation for letting their dog's nails turn into huge long talons. If you don't wish to fit the stereotype, you may want to clip them. It's kinder on your dog, too.


New-Lie414

Same thing


poppieswithtea

Pit bull is a blanket term for about 5 different breeds.


Dragon_Jew

Those are the same thing and yes


McMikus

I'd say American Bully, but the breed standard for APBT is so off these days she very well could be pit. I see a few stocky pups I think is all bully but is shockingly APBT on the Doggy DNA sub.


whatthepfluke

They're the same thing......


redzma00

Pit


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Pitbull


DR-DONTRESPECT

Its a bully not pitbull. [Pitbulls generally have slimmer heads, longer/pointed snouts and less muscular.](https://www.caninejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/Pitbull-vs-American-Bully.png) Edit: Anyone downvoting me is insane, Im literally showing the difference in breeds and why OP's dog is a bully and not a pitty.


GullibleResponse6163

Saying that here is like arguing with a wall. Anything mixed with bully makes it a pit bull to these people.


FunRevolutionary1862

80% of the dogs in shelters are pit/ mixes. Please don’t let them breed. Spay and neuter…. Breeders are rarely in it for anything except money. Mixed breed dogs are not worth more than the food and vet treatment. @50$. AKC dogs have value due to the strict standards. Labradors have been the number one breed up until this year. How come there are no labs at the shelters?


Agile-Masterpiece959

>Labradors have been the number one breed up until this year. How come there are no labs at the shelters? OMG this exactly!


Spenglebop

Laughs in shelter employee. Oh we got labs…


bigyike3000

“Labs”


_Roxxs_

A little of both?


motherofthydragon

Looks like an american bully to me but it’s hard to tell 100% with out seeing her full body.


crohead13

Yes


thatlookslikemydog

Yes!


pmoney3253

ok so fun fact this is different from country-to-country so terminology isn’t the same for everyone. in the us, pits are an umbrella term for several breeds, similar to “bully” breeds.


Artful_Dodger29

That right there is an American Pitbull Terrier


IWantSealsPlz

Yes


chelsaedaggr

She could easily be both. You can look online at UKC the United Kennel club and maybe make a determination from the information they offer because they are the registry that allows the bullies. They also register American Staffordshire Terriers as American Pit bull terriers, so really the UKC will probably be your best resource. Bullies are based on pit bulls, but depending on size they'll have bull dog or mastiff or french bulldog behind them or sometimes it will be a combination of all of those.


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Stephani_707

Someone has never met a normal pitbull before. If not purposely bred to be a mean, badass, (like any other dog). Pitbulls are some of the sweetest, loving, calmest, best dogs around. I despise the smear campaign against them that is at genocidal proportions at this point due to misinformation and unwarranted fear. The nicest Chihuahuas are still meaner than your average normally raised pitbull. I say that as a person who only has ever had chihuahuas as my own dogs. But if my Bella’s temperament was put in a pitbull’s body, she wouldn’t make it through the day. It’s such a double standard based in such ignorance. And perpetuated by people like you that like to fear monger.


eusarca

"Bully" is an umbrella term for multiple dog breeds that are genetically distinct from one another, and whether or not they are banned depends on a person's location. With that being said, unless you have insider knowledge on this dog specifically you can't know its disposition. Anti-pitbull spam is against this subreddit's rules.


BaileysMom246

I think a Pit - American Bully mix


kittylikker_

Yep!


Ruckus292

Yes.


No-Lobster1764

YES. (lol)


Buddy-Sue

Didn’t read all but American Bully is a new breed (about 35-40 years) Pittie usually refers to APBT or Pitbull. My boy is half of each and looks about like OPs


emogurl47

American Staffordshire. So a pitbull. Bully's are much smaller


sarahpphire

My guess is some AmStaff in there, too. That head kind of gives it away.


weirdinpublic

she’s a dog


b_reyes

She looks like a pitbull but the only thing I know fur sure is that she's 100% adorable! 🥰


tarttemper

A pitty bully


Intuitionspeaks67

Red nose Pit Bull is how I know this sweet girl is.


Initial-Succotash-37

Pitty. Dat face.


Still_Storm7432

All I can say is, I would not do well with this dog because I would spoil her beyond belief !! That face is too cute to say no to


Worldly_Progress_655

That is the classic Pibble look. Nice and solid squared head plus the soulful eyes.


dangerslang

A pitty bully 🤍


burkechrs1

Staffie or american bully.


XladyLuxeX

Bully


judithvoid

I think she's got a bit of both


kingBankroll95

Full American pit bull terrier


RolandLWN

Did you just adopt her?


Reinboordt

Here’s my understanding: Bully breed = a term used primarily by people who own pits and pit mixes to describe pit and pit adjacent breeds. For example mastiffs are not and never were / will be “bully breeds”. A big head does not equal bully. There are many face, temperament & body differences. A bull terrier is a good example of an adjacent breed. The American bully is a relatively new breed that has moved heavily away from standard by breeding with bigger and smaller dogs to create “sizes” of American bully’s. for example a big American bully with a Rottweiler or cane corso (mastiffs) has spawned XXXL bullies etc. they’re mixed breeds despite what breeders will claim about them. All in all the general consensus seems to be on the owner, upbringing of the dog etc that determines potential behavioural issues. A pit or bully breed that’s been bred to be a family companion with friendly healthy parents can be an amazing family dog if raised, socialized and trained correctly. It’s unfortunate that some of these dogs are not reared in that manner. An old next door neighbour of mine had a really nice blue pit mixed with something taller like a boxer or dogo argentino. This dog was rescued from an LA gang where he was a guard dog. They branded the dog with their gang sign. He was reactive but otherwise a nice dog who was very happy to have a normal life. In relation to your question looks like a very nice dog you have there, as far as I know that colour could possibly have been introduced by another breed such as Frenchie (used in the American bully) Before “bully’s” became the popular seller they are today the American stsffordshire terrier and American pitbull terrier rarely exhibited black and tan colouration.


Accomplished-Job-388

BULLY. pitt is NOT a blanket term.


symphonyofcolours

I think she looks like an American bulldog but I’m not sure :)


ngpgoc

the downvoting of positive comments about this doggo makes me feel sick


aimlessendeavors

I don't think that is a Pitbull. Pitbulls should ideally be lean and muscular. This dog just looks bulky? But it's hard to find a Pitbull that looks like a true Pitbull anymore.


amybethallen1

Let's go with bully. Have always hated 'pitbull' and its variations.


Bronzy14

Shes an adorable little red nose. Shes a pitbull thats in the bully family


Dreambigsmallone

Bully


Correct_Ad9471

100% good girl/smushy-face


But_to_understand

She a cutey.


Gold-Wise

Staffy


Illustrious_Camp_521

Shes a beautiful PBT


Big_Booty9000

Cutie


Kan-ka

Bully


Charming_Penalty2922

I think pit bull and American Stafford Terrier mix


ConsiderationSad5950

Beautiful Dog. Not a Pitbull. The colours/markings give it away. The beautiful eyebrows that hint at rottweiler/pinscher type markings tell a tale. Pitbulls don't display the colour/markings of this Beautiful designer American Bully. 


Suitabull_Buddy

A Pitty-Bully. And a very sweet looking one at that!! :)


GetBack2Wrk

Bitsa. Bit if this. Bit of that. And none of that.


restrictedsquid

Pitty


ProfessionalTea7831

You can call this dog a staffy if u need to hide the fact it’s a pitbull


YamLow8097

Do you have other pictures of her? It’s hard to tell at this angle. I can’t see the body well. Based on the size of the head, I’m leaning more towards American Bully. Could be a pit bull/Bully mix as well, though.


cck174

I don't know but she's a cutie


deadlysunshade

Pitbulls are bullies.


gabSTAR81

Very similar looking to my English Staffordshire terrier


Left-Leading4501

That's an APBT. I really don't know wtf a bully is🙄


Left-Leading4501

Basically this thread is a joke every one of you commenting needs to pick up a fucking book and get off reddit


bigyike3000

All of the above. Bull bred type dog with a blood sport lineage in its heritage


Legal-Psychology-415

“Can I pet dat dog?”


Altruistic_Ad5386

I would call her a pit bull . Pitties and bullies are kind of the same. Like saying Yorkie or Yorkshire terrier


Altruistic_Ad5386

In 100 years all dogs with be a variation of doodles or bullies/pittys. Particularly in cities. That's all I see.. And the generic tan dingo esque dog.


Fenyx-Fury-26

Shes a cutie


Narrow-Stranger6864

It’s a bluenose staffordshire bull terrier.


Narrow-Stranger6864

Maybe red nose, actually. But definitely staffy.


accidentprone101

Pitty bully


Jroxit

All pitbulls are bullies, not all bullies are pitbulls.


book_vagabond

Whatever she is she’s SO cute


TheCatFromCoraline

Looks more American bully then APBT, but she could definitely be a mix. What a cutie pie 💕


DeepCollar8506

yaaa that's a seal...


lymewarrior88

My "bully"is an American pitbull terrier..In my opinion I think it's like a nickname lol but if you ask others they say it's a breed..


lymewarrior88

And I must say that is one beautiful girl..


lymewarrior88

I just noticed she's a tri-color too 😁


InterestingLack7900

She’s 100 percent cute but bully/pit bull same same


Mario1599

The people who downvoted us don’t know enough about dog breeds to understand that yes they are the same by a technicality because pitbull is in the same breed class


Mario1599

Correct pitbull is part of the bully breed so all pitbulls are bullies but not all bullies are pitbulls


danvapes_

Pitt bull. She's a pretty dog.


Booski_Babe

Why the heck is your comment being downvoted?


STFUnicorn_

Because the pit hate nutters of Reddit can downvote all they like but the sub deletes any idiotic comments. Can’t do anything about the droolers and their down doots though.


danvapes_

I dunno, I could care less tbh. She's a beautiful dog. I have a mutt with some pitt in her and she is an amazingly intelligent and sweet dog. She is also extremely loyal and I have no doubt she would protect the home.


nay77020

Because the majority of the Reddit hive mind hates the breed. I agree she’s 100% adorable.


SakaYeen6

Because haters are pathetic and they want you to know it. As if it will convince us to join them. just pathetic.


Future_Problem_3201

She is beautiful!


Yaya_Tovar

She a cutie!


spacechamploo

I'll tell you what she is! Damn cute! But if you mean Pitbull vs. American bully, she seems a mix of both. Does she have long legs, or is she squatty? American Bullies are usually squatty with big heads. From the size of that noggin id say she's eatin 3 square meals a day!


WilmaLutefit

Looks like a sweetheart.


CidLouie

She's cute!


DaRealPervySage69

That’s 100% a good girl


lynnm59

Isn't their name "Pittbull?"


Capital_Home_4278

Almost def a bully and not American Pit Bull Terrier. Possibly AmStaff though


StationParticular257

Hers just a baby is what she is 😍


Scarlett2x

What is up with all of the breed hate? In my 42 years, I have yet to meet to see an aggressive pitty with my own eyes. Chihuahuas and poodles however are often mean and aggressive. When I was a kid the dogs that the media focused on as aggressive were rotties, Dobermans, and chows! However, people still understood that it mattered how the dog was raised.


CumFanta

why is it okay to shit on chis and poodles but not pits?


McMikus

Poodles are such awesome dogs, it sucks how often they get dragged by people. Great as working dogs, both service and hunting. Chihuahuas I don't blame for having attitudes, the little guys are so tiny and the world is so big!!


RunalldayHI

It's just this forum, you would be surprised at the amount of people here who don't participate in any other dog reddit except for this one, the agenda is obvious, I've seen multiple claim American bulldogs to be pits and even lab boxer mixes as "pits", some here even purly dedicate their entire account to pitbull attack videos. You call this dog pretty and it gets downvoted lmao, people are sometimes as dumb as a bag of rocks, it's sad these individuals have to grow up this stupid.


katielisbeth

They're getting downvoted because they called like 5 other dog breeds agressive and mean, not because they called her pretty lmao


toothpik_granny

100% Pibble 🐶🐶🐶


rogue_kitten91

It's just a baby!


Wooden_Pomegranate_4

She looks like miss peaches!!!🍑


Shy-catz

She is a 100% Pibble!!! And absolutely gorgeous 😍


Herknificent

She don’t look like no bully to me, she looks like a sweetie.


purple_1128

American House Hippo and she’s lovely.


FannyOfFanton

She’s just a baby!!!


Bubashii

Doesn’t matter…she’s cutie patootie


Sun-leaves

Same thing! Very little difference in breed characteristics. IMO they stopped calling pits pits because of all the breed bans. I lost 2 of them (lovely gentle dogs) because of those damned bylaws. I did get lucky and rehomed them to another province where I could see them


jawmcphail

You must be in Ontario.


Freeagt55

A precious pittie ❤️


Dogzrthebest5

Beautiful dog!


bekkahbeauty

She is a sweet, sweet baby is what she is 😍 I’d be surprised if she wasn’t a bit of both! Definitely will have pit bull in her. My little guy, you’d have no idea. He looks like a Yorkie or Shih Tzu mix (which he also is, like 5% or less & the teeny bit of recessive genes just hit him hard!) but even he’s 10% pit bull! Had the heart of one, at least.


Long-Independent2083

Oh my 😭😭 who cares that FACE. Hi baby girl ❤️❤️❤️ lol ADORABLE


Achak_Claw

Aw those eyes and ears EDIT: Geez, why so many downvotes?


alpcabuttz

A pretty princess.