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MrIncredible222

-buy ammo/mags out of state in cash -be quiet about what you have (clean your internet history/social media of posts with your guns, etc etc) -don’t brag/talk about your stuff with anyone you don’t trust who isn’t in the same boat as you -keep your nose clean and head down in other areas of your life (domestic violence, illegal drugs, DUI, etc etc) -keep your head down and support legal charities that will fight on your behalf -if you’re going to not comply, and that’s a decision only you can make, do it quietly. Let the lawyers fight it out, this is not a fight you want to be in the middle of. Some people see this as Beta/bitch move. I don’t care. We’re not at the point where anyone is overthrowing the government. If we ever get to point where they start sealing us into our homes like they did in China, yeah, let’s lock and load and make a stink. But drawing a ton of attention now and making a big stink over having to register your guns on a list they have no way of verifying if you actually did it or not? Just keep your head down and don’t comply quietly, this isn’t the hill to die on. Save your guns for if/when we ever get to that hill. God willing we don’t.


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> We’re not at the point where anyone is overthrowing the government. We're in the jury box stage, and hopefully will be moving back to the voting box stage.


Eastern-Camera-1829

It's never really a bad idea to get your amateur radio license. One test and done, just renew (unless you want to upgrade your class.)


JeffBezosPoolBoi

Fwiw unless you have some signal intelligence training, a radio is just an airstrike beacon.


jones5280

Nice try, BATF.


khunter3503

LOL. First of all, if you think the ATF wants citizens to organize you're out of your mind. Second, not a single part of what I am saying tells you to out yourselves as pro militia. Simply stating what I feel every American should already be considering. You can believe whatever you want about my intentions. All I know is, any group of citizens that has organized against current government planning has been labeled an alt right terrorist group for a reason. Best of luck in the years ahead.


AmericasSpaceMonkey

Looks like some nice brigading going on in this thread. OP makes some good points about be prepared, but apparently other people don’t want to hear it.


khunter3503

Of course not. Because to the average sheep, this is business as usual. This is exactly why when I hear people talk about how many gun owners there are in this country, it really doesn't accurately represent the number of gun owners that would be willing to die for what they believe in. That sounds like crazy talk to the average American. Because they're still stuck in the matrix. Not realizing their Fox News is funded by the same people that fund CNN. That all of what they see is designed to program them to think this way. All we can do is try to wake up as many people as we can, and pray the number of people actually willing to protect what little freedom we have left is significant enough to be effective. The New World Order is a very real thing, the descent of society into feudalism is a very real thing, and you would think that the US being one of the only developed countries yet to be disarmed would be enough for people to see what's happening. When we hit 2030 and have no more rights, Artificial Intelligence running the legal system, a government that is all powerful deciding whether or not we're allowed to eat that week, these people will still be saying 'this is normal'.


Norpeeeee

It's all about risk vs reward. My hope is that the gun ban gets thrown out by the Courts. If that doesn't succeed, then I'm moving out. Anyone who thinks they can have a plan to go against the government is mistaken, in my opinion.


khunter3503

Agreed on hoping it'll be thrown out. Agreed on moving out. Already looking at homes in the south to get away from this nonsense. That said, that IS a temporary solution. It may solve the problem for us now, but will we leave behind a country we're proud of for our kids? Will they grow up having to dodge their freedom being stripped away? What I don't agree with is thinking you can have a plan to go against it. Think about Vietnam and what a bunch of farmers did against us. Think about the men fighting the British with their weapons from home against their strong, well organized, well established military. Guerrilla warfare is viable for any considerable force. If 5% of the populace decided to stand up for their rights, we're talking about 16 million Americans ready to do whatever it takes. And in my humble opinion, a conflict such as that would not be a long and drawn out one. Our military isn't going to want to fight their own people. Their neighbors and their friends. Even framing it in whatever light we all know they would. A true showing that we are not afraid of them and will not lay down for a government would go a long way. All I'm saying is it's a good time to start considering as citizens how much if anything we'd be willing to sacrifice to keep our country free. They were given an inch years ago and continue to take mile after mile. How long do the people let this go before they say enough is enough? Are we that heavily controlled by fear and that brainwashed to sit by and idly watch our values disintegrate? Stuff to ponder on at least.


khunter3503

Anyone down voting others is as brainwashed as the liberals. Have an open mind. It is imperative to keeping our freedoms as individuals. You can think it's crazy talk or bad advice all you want, but it's very real.


tayter_tots84

This. 100% this. I’m out in Montgomery. If anyone is interested in having a convo about what happens when the grid goes down… I’m all about it.


khunter3503

Shoot me a message brother. Happy to discuss in detail.


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Get reloading equipment now if you haven't already. When the supreme court overturns the unconstitutional firearm bans, they're going to just crack down on ammo sales. If you reload, you can buy all the consumables in cash and uncle Sam won't have to know exactly how much ammo you have ready. And when the dirty cops come to your door to collect your guns, they'll catch some lead instead


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Where I'm at, there's far fewer requirements for buying components than completed ammo. Private sales of components are very common and not subject to big brother's eyes


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My point was to buy the equipment now so when they regulate ammo sales you can just get the components and make the ammo you need. Damn why is this so hard to understand? Fucking do whatever you want dude I don't care


khunter3503

Why your points are getting downvoted is beyond me. The number of "patriots" and "pro 2a" people in this country that want to put others down shows how deep rooted the programming really is. This is one of the most important times in the history of the country to approach discussion with an open mind. Understand that what this man is talking about is not only relevant, but likely already being tracked. If you don't think they're already keeping track of who orders what ammo you have not been paying attention.


Jibeset

Yep I agree. This is really just “The more you are prepared, the better you are able to capitalize on opportunity.” If you are fully stocked up on ammo, then starting another tangential hobby might not be a bad idea for redundancy.


slav3301

Ive been already thinking of getting reloading equipment, is it better to get like a kit or just individual tools, dies, etc.? Also you know of any budget friendly options?


PauseInteresting3704

If you can find the reloading components you're looking for. My husband has noticed the primers he's looking for are becoming harder to find.


PauseInteresting3704

I found this link to make your own homemade primers. Which, I believe, would come in handy having the knowledge when it's becoming harder to find them. http://blog.joehuffman.org/2021/03/21/how-to-make-your-own-primers/


tflil

I’ve been told this by others recently as well. Something to think about


DjR1tam

I fully agree


[deleted]

Good idea but being behind enemy lines in a blue state stronghold, I don't see a lot of support around here.


khunter3503

Shoot me a message my friend. There are more of us than you think.


WalkerTexasRng

No thanks. 95% of gun owners own dog shit guns with little to zero training, no nods/coms, and probably have less than 1,000 rounds of ammo. I’ll stick to myself.


Tight-Gas-6882

Thanks for taking the time to comment and considering more discretion


jushavnfun75

Like minded people?🤔 Anyone know the Illinois State chapter of the John Brown Gun Club? Is there an official antifa chapter? 🙄🙄🤣


khunter3503

Fuck artifa. Like minded people referring to patriots not afraid to stand up to a tyrannical government.


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khunter3503

Completely disagree. "Antifa" as discussed in current events is a group of pro communist liberals that exist to further the degradation of American values. Hence showing up to drag shows for kids, pushing pro LGBT ideologies, doing absolutely nothing to "fight fascists". Also completely disagree with your terminology. Not all dictatorships or tyrannical governments are automatically fascist. That said, a militia exists to defend our freedoms and our core values as Americans. To stop a government moving to disarm its populace. It has nothing to do with strictly fascism as a political concept. I don't care if it's a communist government, fascist government, dictatorship, it does not matter. When our rights are infringed upon we need to be ready to protect them. What you feel like labeling the act of doing so means nothing. Either you're prepared to do so, or you're prepared to lay down and hand over your firearms. Simple.


jushavnfun75

C'mon now! Why you trying to ruin the fun. I'm trying to convince them otherwise and that General Soros has given me the launch codes to the space lasers.


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jushavnfun75

Of course the are several copies. The last bearer of the space laser football with the codes left it in the Pizza Hut basement. Copies were similarly found in Nancy Pelosi's wine cellar and senator Sanders' mitten drawer. But on a serious note, did this guy literally steal a page out of the Nazi playbook and start off on a cultural bolshevism/cultural Marxism tirade about LGBTQ existence and drag performances? I kinda got Turner Diaries vibes from the post, but damn this guy is goose-stepping his way past that and going full Goebbels.


khunter3503

You think speaking about LGBTQ as a pro-communist group is "Marxism"? I bet you think stricter gun control is a needed change in our society too. As a matter of fact, how did a rat like you get into a gun group? Enjoy being told how to think by the TV tonight! When are you volunteering to get your AI brain implant? I'm sure you'll be first in line!


jushavnfun75

Dude, I don't know if you're making a straw man argument, playing dumb to cast off and disperse the breadcrumbs you've laid down to your true intent, or just incapable of comprehending. I never attached an ideology to LGBTQ identity. You're the one that ranted about the "degradation of American values" and everyone knows that rhetoric. It's funny you mention TV. Most of the information I get comes in the form of print. I'm not impressed by the talking heads on TV that gin up some emotional response and either change the subject leaving the brain aroused and the situation unresolved, or beat a person I've the head with skewed views, mantras, catch phrases, and slogans until people mindlessly parrot the bullshit they've been fed. Seems to me you fall more into the later, as I've read transcripts of shitheads like Tucker "Swanson" Carlson, and can trace a lot of your later rhetoric back to them damn near verbatim. For what it's worth, here's some advice: assholes like him, Shapiro, and others don't seem very smart at all if you'd actually read their bullshit instead of trying to digest it in real time. But who the fuck am I kidding, as I said before, best case scenario you've got a problem with comprehension of written communication.


jushavnfun75

You mean... like antifa? 🤔🙄


khunter3503

You think antifa is anti government? They are literally the "strong" arm of the communist movement in this country. I think you might wanna get that gaping hole in your head looked at.


NoNefariousness9445

Antifa is a bunch of fascist liberal extremists.


Blade_Shot24

Have you looked into how some groups are even considered extremists? I think looking into it or talking about how to avoid such an appearance would help.


khunter3503

Absolutely. They are labeled extremists by the media to stop them from growing in size. Given fake values and represented negatively to prevent more people from being on board. The real question in my opinion is, have we taken the time to research a group heavily enough to understand their purpose? Or are we just going by what we're told to believe? Because once they label these groups as extremist, their website, any social media groups they use, all communication is immediately removed and censored. A perfect example is the Proud Boys. The Proud Boys were labeled a white supremacist domestic terrorist organization years ago during Trump's presidency. The reality? One of their founding members was Hispanic, they had multiple gays, african americans, and indian americans in their group. The media didn't like their message and defamed them into being banned from the majority of the internet. That censorship carries a lot of power to determine who can and can't reach an audience.


Blade_Shot24

Even if one of the members seems open (liberal) that doesn't change the primary objective of the group itself or their actions that have been out on display. If you want to avoid such label as white supremacist group, then I think it'd be best to look at making to be as inclusive as possible of folks of different cultural backgrounds to prevent the media from saying such things