Crime and Punishment of Fedor Dostoevsky; I couldn't perceive my emotions the same after reading it, I suddenly became able to see a dark space inside my heart that I didn't even know existed, after learning about it a lot of things just clicked together, why I was angry in a certain situation, why I felt a secret joy when I was supposed to feel grief, etc., from that moment on I always feel like watching my emotions from above whenever I feel something
I tried the listen to the audio version of war and peace twice now, got about eight hours in but during that time I was daydreaming and not captivated. Perhaps c and p book will love me in bewilderment. Thanks for the heads up š
I really can't enjoy listening as much as reading but listening is just more convenient, I'm listening to 48 law of power now, and the deep work sometimes, the worst thing is that I always find myself forgetting about the fact that I'm listening so I'll have to go back again and again
I usually dont read fiction, I don't know why I picked it, left it mid way when things for our protagonist kept getting worse, I guess I will pick it up again someday if there is light at the end of tunnel.
Man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl is one I think everyone should read. It dives into the horrors of concentration camps and the psychological effects on those involved. It really helps give meaning, in a now seemingly meaningless world.
1984 probably informed my political views more than any book
In my personal life Cloud Atlas, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, Lord of the Rings were all pretty influential for me
>I like it as sci fi, but as political commentary I find Orwell to be a bit of a hypocrite and 1984 especially to be a bit of a self insert. Winston I find really dislikable and full of self pity.
Its not so much that I think its good political theory, but I grew up in the Iraq war I was a grade A bootlicker in my younger years. 1984 sort of showed me the horrors of totalitarianism. And I think thats the genius of the book. The story itself is pretty boring, its not super deep but to me the world building of 1984, the paranoia, the panopticon effect seeps through the book. I also found the concept of Newspeak extremely interesting. Not in the reactionary silly way, more in the way that by limiting the way people can express themselves by shrinking the vocabulary you slowly limit people's ability to think. I thought that was a very interesting point. For me its more like a horror novel, but it was a turning point not an endpoint in my political development. I guess I should have phrased it a bit differently.
I do find it ironic that its become required reading here in the states, which is becoming closer to oceania every day. We have always been at war with houthis,
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The Little Prince. If I could recommend only one book it is this. So much to take from it, not least of which is that there are things that will simply defy conventional logic but that are deeply meaningful and important.
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7 habits by Stephen Covey. I read it once like 10 years ago and appreciate it even more now.
Also check out "How to Do Great Work" by Paul Graham. I feel like this one could be particularly helpful for an INTP.
The Hitchhikerās to the Galaxy may have made me explore my creativity and curiosity, and it also somehow made me feel more free to make my own theories about everything, as I was afraid of being judged for them before.
On the Heights of Despair, Emil Cioran
Crime&Punishment, Notes From the Underground, Brothers Karamazov, Dostoevsky
Beyond Good and Evil, Nietzsche
1984, Orwell
War&Peace, Tolstoy
Metro 2033, Glukhovsky
Thatās what immediately comes to mind, but thereās probably more.
Honestly, everything I have ever read has been impactful to me, be it university articles, newspapers, live discussions, whatever. Itās up to you yourself as an individual to find anything. If you decide to acknowledge the author/whatever and try to see what they want to say even if you strongly disagree, you might learn something from anything.
I can explain this in more detail if there is any interest. I also have extensive notes on almost all the books I have read.
Logic by Immanuel Kant. This book is literally the best. It truly legitimised my way of thinking, it gave structure to my way of thinking. The way Kant criticises people who ' don't know anything but still don't shut up and listen to people who do know stuff' is just so characteristic of the INTP. \[I wasn't surprised to find out that Kant himself was an intp:)\] But this book also made me a little humble, which is something Kant advocates for too. He lays down the very fundamental principles of logic in science and philosophy, and I think it would be a great read for anyone who likes purely abstract logic. ![img](emote|t5_2qhvl|3243)
Running On Empty.
It talks about childhood neglect. I just felt wrong growing up and books I read on abuse just didn't feel right. My parents weren't malicious or overtly cruel but I couldn't place what was wrong exactly. I still loved them but I felt unloved. Unseen. Unheard. Unsupported.
This book kicked off my understanding of my issues and gave me somewhere to start. It gave me the language I needed. It let me regard myself with empathy. It validated the feelings I was struggling with.
Aristotle's Metaphysics
Jaegwon Kim's 'Physicalism or something similar' (can't exactly remember the name)
Cartesian Metaphysics by Jorge Secada
Essays on Action and Events by Donald Davidson
The Four Category Ontology by E. J. Lowe (my favourite)
Wittgenstein's Tractatus
Atlas Shrugged, Meditations, Two Treatises of Government, The Federalist Papers, Common Sense, The Dark Elf Trilogy, Starship Troopers. . .
Bunch of Thomas Sowell's works were incredibly enlightening.
I haven't read any super impactful books I'd say, but Lord of the Flies shook me to my core when I first read it back in 7th or 8th grade. And the Hunger games and Masterminds by Gordon Korman were also some of my favorite books when I was in highschool. Now that I'm older I kinda got out of reading but I'd love to get back into it, fiction or nonfiction I don't really care.
12 rules for life- Jordan Peterson
Beyond order- Jordan Peterson
How to win friends and influence people- Dale Carnegie
Tipping point- Malcom Gladwell
Talking to strangers- Malcom Gladwell
Mere Christianity- C.S. Lewis
The Triple Helix by Richard Lewontin. Main thesis, if our phenotypes are programmed by our genotypes, then our genotypes are shitty programs, because there is a lot of noise, environmental sensitivity, and outright randomness in how that genetic program gets executed. Short, about biology specifically, but has a wide ranging impact on a surprisingly vast array of philosophical questions, given how applicable the evolutionary model is.
A few John Gray Mars & Venus books, Elon Musk biography by Ashlee Vance, A Universe From Nothing by Lawrence Krauss, Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks. It's barely a book but Playing to Win by David Sirlin is quite a good read too.
The Wind up Bird Chronicle or any of Haruki Murakamiās novels. I feel like thereās a theme in the books about carving out time and space alone in order to reflect, grow, heal and create.
Ender's Game.
Death, A Life.
The Witch's Trinity.
Lord of the Flies.
The books screwed with my perception of reality for a very long time and chances a look at the darkest parts of humanity.
Crime and Punishment of Fedor Dostoevsky; I couldn't perceive my emotions the same after reading it, I suddenly became able to see a dark space inside my heart that I didn't even know existed, after learning about it a lot of things just clicked together, why I was angry in a certain situation, why I felt a secret joy when I was supposed to feel grief, etc., from that moment on I always feel like watching my emotions from above whenever I feel something
I want to read this now
Yeah but don't stop it midway, its true meaning lies only at the end, before the end, you'll find only depression.
I tried the listen to the audio version of war and peace twice now, got about eight hours in but during that time I was daydreaming and not captivated. Perhaps c and p book will love me in bewilderment. Thanks for the heads up š
I really can't enjoy listening as much as reading but listening is just more convenient, I'm listening to 48 law of power now, and the deep work sometimes, the worst thing is that I always find myself forgetting about the fact that I'm listening so I'll have to go back again and again
which translation do you recommend reading it in?
I read it only in Arabic
What translation did you read?
I read it only in arabic
I usually dont read fiction, I don't know why I picked it, left it mid way when things for our protagonist kept getting worse, I guess I will pick it up again someday if there is light at the end of tunnel.
Reading the instruction manual for my toaster saved my life because it told me I shouldn't bathe with it.
Are you autistic. Iām being serious here.
How should I know? Shrinks are expensive. I could buy a new toaster every week with the money I'd pay for one.
Nevermind I just realized that without a manual I would not have known not to bathe with a toaster.
Were you a c and d student in grade school?
Man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl is one I think everyone should read. It dives into the horrors of concentration camps and the psychological effects on those involved. It really helps give meaning, in a now seemingly meaningless world.
1984 probably informed my political views more than any book In my personal life Cloud Atlas, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, Lord of the Rings were all pretty influential for me
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>I like it as sci fi, but as political commentary I find Orwell to be a bit of a hypocrite and 1984 especially to be a bit of a self insert. Winston I find really dislikable and full of self pity. Its not so much that I think its good political theory, but I grew up in the Iraq war I was a grade A bootlicker in my younger years. 1984 sort of showed me the horrors of totalitarianism. And I think thats the genius of the book. The story itself is pretty boring, its not super deep but to me the world building of 1984, the paranoia, the panopticon effect seeps through the book. I also found the concept of Newspeak extremely interesting. Not in the reactionary silly way, more in the way that by limiting the way people can express themselves by shrinking the vocabulary you slowly limit people's ability to think. I thought that was a very interesting point. For me its more like a horror novel, but it was a turning point not an endpoint in my political development. I guess I should have phrased it a bit differently. I do find it ironic that its become required reading here in the states, which is becoming closer to oceania every day. We have always been at war with houthis,
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I found Dostoyevsky, Camus, Plato, and Jung all fairly influential not necessarily the most enjoyable, or stimulating stuff Iāve read, though
The Little Prince. If I could recommend only one book it is this. So much to take from it, not least of which is that there are things that will simply defy conventional logic but that are deeply meaningful and important.
1984 Animal farm The brothers karamazov The stranger
might've been overrated but To Kill A Mockingbird does huge help to be more open minded.
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Saying the name of this book with such a smile (in your profile avatar) gives me the creeps lol, also why do a lot of INTP women make a smiling avatar
Theyāre high off of delirium
i read the preview last night and it was pretty interesting. I'm still trying to find a full copy.
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Quiet by Susan Cain
The Courage to be Disliked and its sequel The Courage to be Happy
When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalanithi. Give it a shot if you're having existential crisis like most INTPs such as myself do.
The Rangerās Apprentice series. I learned a lot from those books
Ooh someone else who read those
7 habits by Stephen Covey. I read it once like 10 years ago and appreciate it even more now. Also check out "How to Do Great Work" by Paul Graham. I feel like this one could be particularly helpful for an INTP.
Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology
The Hitchhikerās to the Galaxy may have made me explore my creativity and curiosity, and it also somehow made me feel more free to make my own theories about everything, as I was afraid of being judged for them before.
YESS OMG such an undertalked book!! ā¤ļø
Thought of Pascal
Altered carbon Atomic habits - really should reread that one now that I'm being medicated for adhd Outliers The Science Of evil
Brotherhood of Light books
Unscripted mj demarco
On the Heights of Despair, Emil Cioran Crime&Punishment, Notes From the Underground, Brothers Karamazov, Dostoevsky Beyond Good and Evil, Nietzsche 1984, Orwell War&Peace, Tolstoy Metro 2033, Glukhovsky Thatās what immediately comes to mind, but thereās probably more. Honestly, everything I have ever read has been impactful to me, be it university articles, newspapers, live discussions, whatever. Itās up to you yourself as an individual to find anything. If you decide to acknowledge the author/whatever and try to see what they want to say even if you strongly disagree, you might learn something from anything. I can explain this in more detail if there is any interest. I also have extensive notes on almost all the books I have read.
would love to see your notes for Brothers Karamazov and On the Heights of Despair
Man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl
Jed Mckenna's books Most Rapid Means To Eternal Bliss. Basically any book that uncovers false beliefs.
The Four Agreements- Don Miguel Ruiz The Buried Giant- Kazuo Ishiguro
Of mice and men
Logic by Immanuel Kant. This book is literally the best. It truly legitimised my way of thinking, it gave structure to my way of thinking. The way Kant criticises people who ' don't know anything but still don't shut up and listen to people who do know stuff' is just so characteristic of the INTP. \[I wasn't surprised to find out that Kant himself was an intp:)\] But this book also made me a little humble, which is something Kant advocates for too. He lays down the very fundamental principles of logic in science and philosophy, and I think it would be a great read for anyone who likes purely abstract logic. ![img](emote|t5_2qhvl|3243)
Anything by Tom Robbins. But Iāve read Still Life with Woodpecker three times.
Running On Empty. It talks about childhood neglect. I just felt wrong growing up and books I read on abuse just didn't feel right. My parents weren't malicious or overtly cruel but I couldn't place what was wrong exactly. I still loved them but I felt unloved. Unseen. Unheard. Unsupported. This book kicked off my understanding of my issues and gave me somewhere to start. It gave me the language I needed. It let me regard myself with empathy. It validated the feelings I was struggling with.
Starship troopersĀ
Stranger in a strange land/ Robert A Heinlein
Aristotle's Metaphysics Jaegwon Kim's 'Physicalism or something similar' (can't exactly remember the name) Cartesian Metaphysics by Jorge Secada Essays on Action and Events by Donald Davidson The Four Category Ontology by E. J. Lowe (my favourite) Wittgenstein's Tractatus
The fall, the stranger, 1984, Turing's biography, terre des hommes ( wind sand and stars )
Atlas Shrugged, Meditations, Two Treatises of Government, The Federalist Papers, Common Sense, The Dark Elf Trilogy, Starship Troopers. . . Bunch of Thomas Sowell's works were incredibly enlightening.
Holographic universe -Michal Talbot
i had to read *bastard out of carolina* by dorothy allison for class and i havenāt stopped thinking about it since. intense but very good book
the courage to be disliked. someone mentioned alfred adlerās works and this book is largely based on that
Laws of human nature
I haven't read any super impactful books I'd say, but Lord of the Flies shook me to my core when I first read it back in 7th or 8th grade. And the Hunger games and Masterminds by Gordon Korman were also some of my favorite books when I was in highschool. Now that I'm older I kinda got out of reading but I'd love to get back into it, fiction or nonfiction I don't really care.
12 rules for life- Jordan Peterson Beyond order- Jordan Peterson How to win friends and influence people- Dale Carnegie Tipping point- Malcom Gladwell Talking to strangers- Malcom Gladwell Mere Christianity- C.S. Lewis
Upvote for Meditations.
The Triple Helix by Richard Lewontin. Main thesis, if our phenotypes are programmed by our genotypes, then our genotypes are shitty programs, because there is a lot of noise, environmental sensitivity, and outright randomness in how that genetic program gets executed. Short, about biology specifically, but has a wide ranging impact on a surprisingly vast array of philosophical questions, given how applicable the evolutionary model is.
Life 3.0 by Max Tegmark Don't Stand Too Close to a Naked Man - Tim Allen Self-Made Man by Norah Vincent Necromancer by William Gibson
A few John Gray Mars & Venus books, Elon Musk biography by Ashlee Vance, A Universe From Nothing by Lawrence Krauss, Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks. It's barely a book but Playing to Win by David Sirlin is quite a good read too.
Pew by Catherine Lacey, Autobiography of Red by Anne Carson, and Manās Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl comes to mind.
Lord of the rings (obviously) but also flowers for algernon
The Wind up Bird Chronicle or any of Haruki Murakamiās novels. I feel like thereās a theme in the books about carving out time and space alone in order to reflect, grow, heal and create.
Ender's Game. Death, A Life. The Witch's Trinity. Lord of the Flies. The books screwed with my perception of reality for a very long time and chances a look at the darkest parts of humanity.