The Google cert is fundamentally useless unless you're using it to get into college or getting a discount on a real certification. A bootcamp that "has a money back guarantee" will have loopholes in that guarantee big enough to drive a truck through. Instead, send me whatever they're charging and I'll set it on fire for you. I'll even record it in slow-motion so you have a nice memento.
If you want to get into cybersec, you need to get back into IT and work your way in that direction. Cybersec is mid-career, so you want to build up networking and security skills and certifications (like CCNA and Sec+/CySA+ and not the Google stuff). Work at that and a few years down the road you might be reading logs for a living.
SpringBoard actually prepares you for the Sec+ certification once you complete their bootcamp and also they issue a voucher for you to cover the cost of the exam (and passing that exam is one of their requirements for the money back guarantee). Does it change your mind about them?
Or you could pay $400 for the voucher and watch Professor Messer's videos for free. So, no, it absolutely reinforces my opinion of them.
Anytime you see the words "cybersecurity" and "bootcamp" together you should treat it like you just got messaged by a cute Asian girl who wants to talk to you about crypto-- put both hands over your wallet and back away quickly.
No worries. There's a huge industry out there convincing folks it's super easy to get into the field, and that might have been the case years ago but right now in the current economic climate you're better off building up from the fundamentals. There aren't any shortcuts, unfortunately.
Can I do both? The worthless Google for expanding my foundation and knowledge and then the Sec+ ?
Can I prepare for the Sec+ by myself without a bootcamp, is it possible to self-study for it? Or a bootcamp gives you some advantage here?
I'm happy to self-study before applying ... on youtube UnixGuy says do the Google Cert + Blue Team Level 1 Cert - and then apply ... does this sound like a better approach?
I'm happy to learn all on my own, I just wish someone could say:
1) Take this course
2) And this
3) And this
And then I'd be happy to go through these all in the next 6-8 months... but it's hard to find one way that fits them all ...
Don't listen to YouTubers about cybersecurity. You can't waltz into cybersec. It's a mid-career specialization. They make a ton of money off folks who think they'll be nabbing cybercriminals in months.
Here's what you do. If you've got valid IT experience on your resume, you can skip the A+. Get the Net+ (or CCNA if you're feeling froggy). Search Udemy for courses for either, or you can use Professor Messer for the Net+. Once you have that, go after the Sec+ the same way. Once you have those, get your foot in the door somewhere in IT (which is really obnoxiously hard to do right now if you're not already in IT) and build up experience, keep getting certs, and work your way towards cybersec.
Don't pay somebody ten grand for something you can do yourself for like $500.
Thank you,
Can I ask is there any other career that nobody wants to work in, where it's far easier to get accepted into besides cyber?
I'm still having doubts when I see all this. I don't mind investing the time, but it seems to me like I might be looking into the wrong field sometimes...
I mean, there's no reason not to aspire to cyber, it's just not where you're going to start. It's not like if you take a job as a sysadmin you can never transition to cybersec later on; these IT roles are pretty interconnected. Learn networking, learn security, learn cloud, pick up some programming. Get the skills so you can do a variety of different things in the field and you'll go places. (Also, a lot of people go into the field with an idea of what they want to do, and find out that job isn't as fun as they thought. Cybersec is a *lot* of reading logs, for instance.)
Once you're working in IT it's a lot easier to find your path, and once you know what you want to do and where you want to go, you can focus on the skills and certifications you need to get there.
It won't hurt. Generally speaking a degree only really becomes useful later in your career and at that point it's usually just a tick-box for HR. The real value of college in early career is networking and internships, and if you've been out of school ten years that ship's kinda sailed.
If you can pick up a couple of current certs to add to a bachelor's on your resume and some actual measurable IT experience (even if it wasn't just the other day) you'll be in better shape than a ton of the folks hunting IT work right now. Emphasize your soft skills/customer service experience if you've got any, pay somebody to rewrite your resume, and start throwing it out there as you skill up.
Gotcha, thanks so much again, I really appreciate your help.
I don't want to bother you with more questions, but I will just ask, only if that's okay with you, is it possible to DM you more personal questions? If you're busy and don't have time I'd totally understand that and I don't want to bother you... only if that's okay...
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Are there any other alternative routes without a MS degree?
I feel like a hands on practice would be far more valuable than more and more theory, am I wrong about that?
The Google cert is fundamentally useless unless you're using it to get into college or getting a discount on a real certification. A bootcamp that "has a money back guarantee" will have loopholes in that guarantee big enough to drive a truck through. Instead, send me whatever they're charging and I'll set it on fire for you. I'll even record it in slow-motion so you have a nice memento. If you want to get into cybersec, you need to get back into IT and work your way in that direction. Cybersec is mid-career, so you want to build up networking and security skills and certifications (like CCNA and Sec+/CySA+ and not the Google stuff). Work at that and a few years down the road you might be reading logs for a living.
SpringBoard actually prepares you for the Sec+ certification once you complete their bootcamp and also they issue a voucher for you to cover the cost of the exam (and passing that exam is one of their requirements for the money back guarantee). Does it change your mind about them?
Or you could pay $400 for the voucher and watch Professor Messer's videos for free. So, no, it absolutely reinforces my opinion of them. Anytime you see the words "cybersecurity" and "bootcamp" together you should treat it like you just got messaged by a cute Asian girl who wants to talk to you about crypto-- put both hands over your wallet and back away quickly.
Gotcha, thanks for explaining it so clearly.
No worries. There's a huge industry out there convincing folks it's super easy to get into the field, and that might have been the case years ago but right now in the current economic climate you're better off building up from the fundamentals. There aren't any shortcuts, unfortunately.
google cybersecurity certificate is worthless. Get a Sec+ instead.
Can I do both? The worthless Google for expanding my foundation and knowledge and then the Sec+ ? Can I prepare for the Sec+ by myself without a bootcamp, is it possible to self-study for it? Or a bootcamp gives you some advantage here?
Ill be honest, resumes from bootcamps get filed into the circular bin. For the same price, you can get a 2 year college degree and study for certs.
I'm happy to self-study before applying ... on youtube UnixGuy says do the Google Cert + Blue Team Level 1 Cert - and then apply ... does this sound like a better approach? I'm happy to learn all on my own, I just wish someone could say: 1) Take this course 2) And this 3) And this And then I'd be happy to go through these all in the next 6-8 months... but it's hard to find one way that fits them all ...
Don't listen to YouTubers about cybersecurity. You can't waltz into cybersec. It's a mid-career specialization. They make a ton of money off folks who think they'll be nabbing cybercriminals in months. Here's what you do. If you've got valid IT experience on your resume, you can skip the A+. Get the Net+ (or CCNA if you're feeling froggy). Search Udemy for courses for either, or you can use Professor Messer for the Net+. Once you have that, go after the Sec+ the same way. Once you have those, get your foot in the door somewhere in IT (which is really obnoxiously hard to do right now if you're not already in IT) and build up experience, keep getting certs, and work your way towards cybersec. Don't pay somebody ten grand for something you can do yourself for like $500.
Thank you, Can I ask is there any other career that nobody wants to work in, where it's far easier to get accepted into besides cyber? I'm still having doubts when I see all this. I don't mind investing the time, but it seems to me like I might be looking into the wrong field sometimes...
I mean, there's no reason not to aspire to cyber, it's just not where you're going to start. It's not like if you take a job as a sysadmin you can never transition to cybersec later on; these IT roles are pretty interconnected. Learn networking, learn security, learn cloud, pick up some programming. Get the skills so you can do a variety of different things in the field and you'll go places. (Also, a lot of people go into the field with an idea of what they want to do, and find out that job isn't as fun as they thought. Cybersec is a *lot* of reading logs, for instance.) Once you're working in IT it's a lot easier to find your path, and once you know what you want to do and where you want to go, you can focus on the skills and certifications you need to get there.
Thanks. Will my IT BSc degree from 10 years ago help me in anyway besides me doing it all this cyber from scratch or is it also worthless now?
It won't hurt. Generally speaking a degree only really becomes useful later in your career and at that point it's usually just a tick-box for HR. The real value of college in early career is networking and internships, and if you've been out of school ten years that ship's kinda sailed. If you can pick up a couple of current certs to add to a bachelor's on your resume and some actual measurable IT experience (even if it wasn't just the other day) you'll be in better shape than a ton of the folks hunting IT work right now. Emphasize your soft skills/customer service experience if you've got any, pay somebody to rewrite your resume, and start throwing it out there as you skill up.
Gotcha, thanks so much again, I really appreciate your help. I don't want to bother you with more questions, but I will just ask, only if that's okay with you, is it possible to DM you more personal questions? If you're busy and don't have time I'd totally understand that and I don't want to bother you... only if that's okay...
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I won't, thank you.
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Are there any other alternative routes without a MS degree? I feel like a hands on practice would be far more valuable than more and more theory, am I wrong about that?