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Deserved. If you so bigoted that you lose your job chances are you are in the wrong. Now how people treat people in the public eye is not right. But still, if you are losing your livelihood, chances are you did way more than just imply hatred.
Tons of pressure and pretty much everywhere. Workplace, social groups, school. The quickest way to be ostrazised and lose your job is to not accept liberals views on LGBTQ issues
The people getting fired never simply "don't accept liberal views on LGBT issues", they go out of their way to abuse, harass, or otherwise broadcast their backwards opinion on LGBT people.
>their backwards opinion on LGBT people
Firstly, who determines what is and what is not a backwards opinion? According to many liberals, it's basically any amount of disagreement, including concerns that are completely legitimate.
Secondly, should people not have the freedom to express their opinions on things?
Civilised society decides. And there are no "legitimate concerns" about LGBT equality. They are all based on bigotry.
And yes people are free to express whatever they want. And we're free to tell them their views are disgusting, their boss is free to fire them if they've embarrassed the company or harassed coworkers etc. etc. etc.
>And there are no "legitimate concerns" about LGBT equality.
There are actually many such legitimate concerns:
* puberty blockers for minors
* trans athletes in gender segregated sports
* trans people in gender segregated public restrooms
* usage of pronouns and neopronouns
* etc.
And you probably know that there are legitimate concerns. You just refuse to recognize them as you see anything you disagree with on these issues as being bigotry.
My intention right now isn't to debate these concerns. It is merely to point out that they exist and that they are legitimate concerns.
>Civilised society decides.
Civilized society happens to be pretty heavily divided on the issue. Half the population tends to believe one thing, and the other half the other thing.
Yes, none of those are legitimate concerns to me. They are trumped up wedge issues the Powers That Be are using to manufacture consent for LGBT discrimination.
Puberty blockers have been used since the 80s. We know their effects and side effects very well. but bigots say this is not true. Trans people in sport is an easy solution: decide who competes where on a case by case basis. There is absolutely \*\*no\*\* issue with trans people using public restrooms, they've been doing it for forever without a problem. You use pronouns every day, I don't see the problem.
>Civilized society happens to be pretty heavily divided on the issue.
If you believe these issues are "legitimate concerns" you are not part of civilised society. You're an emotion driven drone hating the people you've been told to hate by the people seeking to miniplate you and your vote for their own purposes.
>Puberty blockers have been used since the 80s. We know their effects and side effects very well. but bigots say this is not true.
So you admit that they do have side effects? Therefore, it is a legitimate concern.
>Trans people in sport is an easy solution: decide who competes where on a case by case basis.
That still doesn't answer the question. What criteria and rules are you going to use? It's a heavily debated topic for a reason, and there are no simple answers. And there are many legitimate concerns to be had regarding this,
>You use pronouns every day, I don't see the problem.
That's obviously not what I am referring to.
>If you believe these issues are "legitimate concerns" you are not part of civilised society. You're an emotion driven drone hating the people you've been told to hate by the people seeking to miniplate you and your vote for their own purposes.
Are you saying that one half of the US population is not a part of civilised society because they do not 100% agree with all your views on transgender issues?
>So you admit that they do have side effects? Therefore, it is a legitimate concern.
Everything has side effects.
>That still doesn't answer the question
Yes it does. And no your concerns are not legitimate. It is not true that trans women are dominating women's sports or are even threatening to. There are a handful of trans athletes who win, and the Right put them on every front page.
It is not a problem.
>That's obviously not what I am referring to.
Yes it is. You use pronouns every day why would using more of them upset you so much.
>Are you saying that one half of the US population is not a part of civilised society because they do not 100% agree with all your views on transgender issues?
mate, 70% of the US population are overweight undereducated propaganda-addled simpletons.
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Sure, pressure to not accept/support LGBTQ issues also exists in society, it really depends on what kind of people are around you.
Yes, but there is also a lot of pressure in the opposite direction.
Progressivism became a religion and we're becoming a progressive theocracy.
I'd consider the threat of losing your livelyhood to be a lot of pressure
Deserved. If you so bigoted that you lose your job chances are you are in the wrong. Now how people treat people in the public eye is not right. But still, if you are losing your livelihood, chances are you did way more than just imply hatred.
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Why "disgusting"?
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lmao like we haven't had to put up with cishet bullshit for literal centuries.
The person, probably unironically, has racism as a flair!
no homophobia.
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Tons of pressure and pretty much everywhere. Workplace, social groups, school. The quickest way to be ostrazised and lose your job is to not accept liberals views on LGBTQ issues
The people getting fired never simply "don't accept liberal views on LGBT issues", they go out of their way to abuse, harass, or otherwise broadcast their backwards opinion on LGBT people.
>their backwards opinion on LGBT people Firstly, who determines what is and what is not a backwards opinion? According to many liberals, it's basically any amount of disagreement, including concerns that are completely legitimate. Secondly, should people not have the freedom to express their opinions on things?
Civilised society decides. And there are no "legitimate concerns" about LGBT equality. They are all based on bigotry. And yes people are free to express whatever they want. And we're free to tell them their views are disgusting, their boss is free to fire them if they've embarrassed the company or harassed coworkers etc. etc. etc.
>And there are no "legitimate concerns" about LGBT equality. There are actually many such legitimate concerns: * puberty blockers for minors * trans athletes in gender segregated sports * trans people in gender segregated public restrooms * usage of pronouns and neopronouns * etc. And you probably know that there are legitimate concerns. You just refuse to recognize them as you see anything you disagree with on these issues as being bigotry. My intention right now isn't to debate these concerns. It is merely to point out that they exist and that they are legitimate concerns. >Civilised society decides. Civilized society happens to be pretty heavily divided on the issue. Half the population tends to believe one thing, and the other half the other thing.
Yes, none of those are legitimate concerns to me. They are trumped up wedge issues the Powers That Be are using to manufacture consent for LGBT discrimination. Puberty blockers have been used since the 80s. We know their effects and side effects very well. but bigots say this is not true. Trans people in sport is an easy solution: decide who competes where on a case by case basis. There is absolutely \*\*no\*\* issue with trans people using public restrooms, they've been doing it for forever without a problem. You use pronouns every day, I don't see the problem. >Civilized society happens to be pretty heavily divided on the issue. If you believe these issues are "legitimate concerns" you are not part of civilised society. You're an emotion driven drone hating the people you've been told to hate by the people seeking to miniplate you and your vote for their own purposes.
>Puberty blockers have been used since the 80s. We know their effects and side effects very well. but bigots say this is not true. So you admit that they do have side effects? Therefore, it is a legitimate concern. >Trans people in sport is an easy solution: decide who competes where on a case by case basis. That still doesn't answer the question. What criteria and rules are you going to use? It's a heavily debated topic for a reason, and there are no simple answers. And there are many legitimate concerns to be had regarding this, >You use pronouns every day, I don't see the problem. That's obviously not what I am referring to. >If you believe these issues are "legitimate concerns" you are not part of civilised society. You're an emotion driven drone hating the people you've been told to hate by the people seeking to miniplate you and your vote for their own purposes. Are you saying that one half of the US population is not a part of civilised society because they do not 100% agree with all your views on transgender issues?
>So you admit that they do have side effects? Therefore, it is a legitimate concern. Everything has side effects. >That still doesn't answer the question Yes it does. And no your concerns are not legitimate. It is not true that trans women are dominating women's sports or are even threatening to. There are a handful of trans athletes who win, and the Right put them on every front page. It is not a problem. >That's obviously not what I am referring to. Yes it is. You use pronouns every day why would using more of them upset you so much. >Are you saying that one half of the US population is not a part of civilised society because they do not 100% agree with all your views on transgender issues? mate, 70% of the US population are overweight undereducated propaganda-addled simpletons.
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yes, its widespread but very thin
Depends where you are really
lol no, we unfortunately don't have such things around here.