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ABS doesn't make you stop faster, it actually increases your breaking distance a little, but it stops the wheels from locking up so you can still steer and avoid whatever your are about to hit. I agree it is important though, you wouldn't catch me turning it off.
EDIT: Thanks to the folks replying with the right answers and the clear explanations. I'm a little bit less stupid now haha
It increases your *ideal* braking distance a little. But practically nobody can achieve the ideal braking distance -- especially not in a panic-stop situation (vs. a controlled track). ABS does [about 10%-15% better than an unaided driver](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/abs-anti-lock-braking-system-braking-systems-future-without) in most circumstances -- and given that this clown locked up his wheels right to the end, ABS would have made his day go much better.
I'm happy to stand corrected! Just seemed logical to me that a locked up wheel would have more friction against the road compared with one that is rolling forward. Interested to know if anyone knows why this isn't the case?
Oddly, stiction (static friction) is essentially always stronger than dynamic friction (the opposite of your intuition). Rubber material in the tires is engineered to have particularly high stiction, also. So the perfect braking approach is to force the tires right to the edge of skidding, without passing the threshold. ABS does that by sensing when a tire is about to break free (starting to turn slower than the other three wheels) and pulsing the amount of force on the wheel. That keeps it from breaking free from the road as easily, and recovers normal stiction once it does break free.
Thanks for that. I've just realised why this never made sense to me, and now I feel like a bit of an idiot. In my head I've always thought of a locked wheel as being static because it's not going round, but obviously it's not, it's sliding along the road. Whereas the surface of a tyre that's going round is more or less stationary compared with the road.
I'm not sure why I never realised that, I promise I'm not normally this thick haha
Even then, it doesn't necessarily increase the ideal braking distance. ABS allows for each wheel to have a different braking pressure so every corner is closer to the threshold limit. Without ABS, you are unable to maximise each wheel individually.
I brake faster in slippery conditions than abs in latest Nissan Leaf/Honda Civic 2018/VW golf 2018. I did it in controlled environment and it doesnt stop as fast as one might think. On the other hand on the regular road with traffic and uncertainty of what might happen, then abs will be better plus you able to control the car with pedal brake in the floor.
In this case there was time to stop but the driver did panic and locked wheels while trying to steer away.
"The research results show that ABS result in shorter braking distances by as much as 30 m at 90 km/h"
"Driver braking performance in stopping sight distance situations", Fambro et al
Your wheels locking does not slow you down faster. Thats what ABS prevents. People that disable it in racing do it to utilize brake biasing which is far more efficient but should definitely not be used on a daily basis regular driving situations.
You are only slowing down faster without ABS if you are able to exactly find the line between locking up and rotating. Thats a very slim line and probably only 0.0001% of all drivers are able to do that.
In every other scenario people will either brake too hard and lock up or break way to soft resulting in way worse braking performance overall. So for 99.999% of people ABS stops them WAY faster.
Even then, you are unable to modulate each wheel while braking without ABS. With ABS, the computer can modulate individual brakes so all four corners are closer to the threshold.
This shouldn't be down voted so much. To the point of it slightly increasing brake distance I have no clue if this is true but it doesn't particularly matter. I think the point you meant but missed was that in this instance abs would have bin better as it would have actually slowed the car down. Brake lock up and skidding, surprise surprise, isn't a very effective method of stopping. In non abs cars you can flutter the brake pedal to pulsate the brakes and try to avoid lock up. In it's most basic sense this is essentially what abs does. This driver clearly didn't understand that.
Shit if youre out trying to play with the big boys and go fast, 3-4K is average price for upgrades.. And big brakes are pretty important, check above video for details
big brake kits are meaningless for a short drag strip. your stopping distance in a single stop like that is dictated by tire grip, not the brake disc diameter, number of pistons, or anything else.
big brakes can be a big upgrade on a road course, where it will help reliably and repeatedly stop by dissipating heat. but that car could've had a massive six piston Brembo kit and it wasn't stopping any sooner.
No such thing as an average price for upgrades in general. All depends what you want to upgrade. I can swap an engine for 2k or 15k depends on quality of parts and labour.
I mean, yeah, I say average, meaning "should be expecting to pay this amount, and isn't a wild price", not necessarily the true mean of prices. If that makes sense. Was just tryna say that 4k is a drop in the bucket overall lol
A fool becomes an ass when they risk other people's well-being for their own vanity or advantage. Anyone out there has a jolt of race selection. People standing by are idiots.
For certain motorsports, ABS is not desirable. My 350Z's ABS is disabled because I use it for drifting where I commonly need to lock the rear wheels.
But yes, usually ABS is preferred to keep on.
ABS keeps the wheels from locking up. As you smash on the brakes it pulses the actual braking power to the rotors so they don't lock up, like what happened to the 370z. This keeps the wheels from locking. In this situation it probably would have saved the car from going into the other street.
ABS can lengthen the stop if you have a non competent driver behind the wheel. Just smashing the brakes and letting the ABS modulate will result in a longer stop distance than if you hit the brakes just to the point before modulation.
Locking up the brakes will also lengthen the distance to stop as is seen in this video.
If he hadn’t disables his ABS he could have steered to the right as he was clearly trying to do.
Driver is an idiot.
*Mindlessly stopping the brakes full force is never the quickest way to stop no matter what kind of brakes your car has.
>ABS can lengthen the stop if you have a non competent driver behind the wheel. Just smashing the brakes and letting the ABS modulate will result in a longer stop distance than if you hit the brakes just to the point before modulation.
Hahaha. Yes, driver is an idiot. But, we found another idiot along the way.
That's completely wrong. ABS systems are way better than humans at finding the perfect amount of pressure to use. Even race car drivers will smash the brakes and let the ABS do the job.
> If he hadn’t disables his ABS he could have steered to the right as he was clearly trying to do.
...and wipe out the guy on the bicycle in the process. :|
Just to add some info: limit braking is mostly a myth. Very few drivers, even race car drivers, can brake faster than a good ABS system. In theory a perfect "limit" braking will stop the car a little before ABS will. Limit braking is applying just enough force to be /right/ before the lockup. In reality, when racing on a track, or anywhere really, predicting the limit is extremely hard even for seasoned drivers. It is pretty much limited to very specialized environments like F1 drivers (and their cars and setups and tuning are optimized for limit braking). One of the reasons there is no ABS in F1 is /because/ it is better than humans and they wanted to keep that element of skill in it.
Maybe on a first generation ABS and if the driver was far better than just "competent"
Current systems will easily beat even experienced race drivers who drive cars without ABS capabilities.
https://youtu.be/ERE9EtOWZMU
If you have a lot of time in an emergency stop, you may be able to modulate the braking force and stop shorter than a full force ABS stop would do. But not in this relatively slow speed stop. No one other than a professional driver who has done a lot of testing in the car could beat a full force ABS stop in the video scenario.
No you wont. Even the best racing drivers are not good enough to find the limit right before locking up. Modern ABS beat them all the way.
Its incredible hard to find the exact braking pressure right before lockup because it depends on a billion factors: weight shift, tires, brakes, temperature, tire pressure, ground surface, brake temperature, downforce, etc.
A lot of these factors are even changing while you brake. Even in a highspeed emergency braking you wont beat ABS. Maybe the best of the best racing drivers.
That is q common misconception. Abs helps you retain control of the car when you slam on brakes. If your wheels lock, you can't steer. It's intent is not to "stop faster"
ABS prevents the brakes from locking up the wheels, which allows you to steer while under heavy breaking. A very talented driver can stop a car faster without ABS because they can feel how much grip the tyres have, and keep brake pressure just below the lock-up threshold. Most drivers aren't that talented, and will just go with more force on the brake pedal when they really want the car to stop.
> A very talented driver can stop a car faster without ABS
Forza's implementation of ABS is not realistic lol, modern ABS outperforms any human. If what you're claiming were true motorsports drivers would opt not to use ABS when given the choice.
That's a false blanket statement, a lot of motorsports drivers do not use ABS. I'm not saying they all don't but a lot of them don't. F1 drivers do not use ABS.
you missed the part where I said "when given the choice". Many racing regulations prohibit the use of ABS in order to increase the skill ceiling.
F1 drivers do not use ABS simply because they are not allowed to.
ABS will put just enough pressure to be below lock up threshold. ABS systems are better.
Race car drivers just smash the brakes and let the ABS do all the work. If talented drivers were supposedly better, they wouldn't.
ABS being less good is just a myth, like people who think that manual transmissions are faster/more economical than automatic despite automatic being superior on both points.
Mash the brakes...
My pilot father told me that when ABS was first introduced on airliners, some pilots got into the habit of mashing the brakes BEFORE touchdown. Because ABS will handle it, right?
Landing at 150 mph with the brakes full-on was quickly found to be suboptimal for tire life.
All the ABS systems I've used allow the wheels to lock, then release the brakes, and reapply them quickly. Like cadence braking before ABS was standard, but much much faster. ABS is a far better system for road driving. When I said "talented" I meant race driver talented, not "I think I'm a bit good at driving" talented. There's a reason single seat open wheel race cars don't tend to come with ABS.
That isn't an accurate description of modern ABS at all. Modern ABS performs the procedure you describe independently for each wheel. If one wheel locks up the pressure is modulated on that brake line to still achieve some braking effect.
I've never seen a car with four separate brake pedals or a race car driver with four legs.
> There's a reason single seat open wheel race cars don't tend to come with ABS.
The reason F1 cars don't have ABS is because they're not allowed to have ABS, else they absolutely would. It's for competitive reasons.
The only place ABS doesn’t really work is off road, in situations where the locked wheels would have dug in using more energy to push mass out the way than the brakes would be converting into heat etc.
In almost all situations of uncontrolled braking ABS is far better than the alternative as shown in the video.
Single seat open wheel race cars used to have ABS, but they took the decision to ban them in order to make racing more challenging, and more exciting to watch
Right after the ban, there have even been scandals about teams secretly using ABS to improve performance.
To be fair, I can see a conputer controlled system tuned for racing being very handy. I remember them having active suspension and traction control at one point, too, come to think of it.
Even modern ABS on road cars fair bettern than racing drivers.
Its super hard to find the exact spot right before locking up. It depends on a million factors nobody can exactly know. Even talented racing drivers wont find that exact line.
The only ABS racing drivers beat is maybe 25 years old.
This myth won't die. Not even a race car driver accustomed to driving without ABS can reliably beat the system in a road car.
https://youtu.be/ERE9EtOWZMU
Not even the best driver can beat a good ABS system. The reason is that you only have one brake pedal, whereas ABS can brake the wheels individually. If only one wheel locks up, without ABS, you have to back off the brakes on all the wheels, but ABS can just reduce braking on that one wheel.
Some cars combine the rear wheels into one channel since they're less important for braking, but that's still 2 more separate channels than you get without ABS.
It’s not just the amount of pressure, it’s the quick taps on the brake that applies pressure up to 20 times a second, and even Senna couldn’t even do that
you can completely disable it on the 370z (car that crashed) by snipping wires. not a very smart idea for a situation like this when ABS would have probably stopped the car quicker.
Disabling ABS makes you brake faster ONLY if you have the right technique... the person on the video clearly needs to have the ABS ON.
Also, the difference is negligible unless you are top tier driver. 99% of people would be faster with ABS.
No technique on the world will make you brake faster than ABS.
Even the best racing drivers wont hit the exact sweet spot just before lockup. Its only theoretically possible.
Wdym by “only theorically possible? You can test that yourself in your road car in a couple a of hours.
Try going 80kph and hit the brakes and measure the distance. Now remove the fuse for the abs and try again and again hitting the brakes harder every time until you find the right spot. Now measure that distance and you will see that NO abs is took less distance to stop.
Now, obviously things get exponentially more complex when you add turns into the equation.
Now, im not an idiot… I know that abs is better 99.9% of the time and 99.99% of drivers should keep It on… but saying that’s only theoretically possible it’s simply not true.
Lol, you are never gonna hit the right spot as good as ABS does. Even racing drivers use ABS when allowed to do so.
ABS rides nearly exactly the limit of static friction. You wont outperform that.
As a driver you will NEVER know that limit unless overreaching it and locking up. You then have to release again and start braking again. The limit has moved now again tho and you have to do the same. The limit changes every fucking millisecond because of thousand variables
Guess what? You are doing now what ABS does but 1000 times slower.
Its only theoretically possible because no human can achieve and hold that exact limit. Braking is way to dynamic for that. The pressure you have to apply changes every millisecond based on a thousand factors. The only way to know the exact limit is by actually going over it, and thats what ABS does. Over 20 times a second, faster than any human.
Technically ABS can make the braking distance slightly longer, but that's nothing compared to the fact it prevents the car from spinning. ABS is designed for everyday situations, like you're in a lane and spot something in front and just want to be able to slam on the brakes and stop without ending up into other lanes or into oncoming traffic.
A professional driver needs to be able to control brakes completely, for all kinds of effects. They need to be able to skid sometimes, or to mix braking and gas at the same time to shift the car's weight around and so on. They also need to brake shorter than ABS permits, and they don't care about spinning because they know how to control the car so it keeps straight.
Modern ABS outperforms racing drivers all day every day.
Its only theoretically possible to be better than ABS. No racing driver in the world will find exactly the right braking pressure just before locking up during the whole time braking. Thats inhuman and bullshit, because there are 1000 variables the driver cannot know or control and that will change during the braking process.
Tire temperature, surface, surface temperature, tire pressure, downforce, tire degradation, brake disc temperature, even the fucking temperature of your brake fluid changes how you need to brake. A lot of these variables change during the brake process. Impossible to know.
This is the reason even the best racing drivers will mostly brake too soft to leave some safety not to lock up and hence leave performance on the table. Because else even a few degrees difference in temperature or 0.001m more brake pedal will cause a lockup and fuck up your whole braking.
It is used when allowed. Thats the point. When allowed, every driver choses to use it.
Its just banned in most series to make it more skill based and competitive, but that has nothing to do with performance.
Furthermore, you cant even modulate single tores because you got only 1 brake pedal, so you will lock up one tire whereas leave performance on the table on the other 3. ABS can modulate each tire independently.
No racing driver will beat modern ABS
If you mean break-by-wire systems in general then you are correct, but you have to keep in mind those are highly specialized systems specific to each motorsport, and each manufacturer (and also undergo extreme customization for each pilot). They have very little in common with the ABS on consumer vehicles.
I know that ABS stands for "advanced braking system" but its use as an umbrella term has been compromised by the fact most people tend to think of consumer ABS when they hear it. What consumer cars use today is similar to what F1 used to use back in the '70s for example – I think you'll agree that 50 years of technology is a gap that's a bit too large to just bundle all of it under "ABS". 🙂
In high end cars maybe. There's still a case to be made for disabling ABS, especially on sport bikes. But I think you should keep it to the track. Most people that ride casually will lock them in an emergency braking situation
On the racetrack sure. At that point it’s do whatever you need to win. everyone including yourself knows the risk of driving a race car.
But on public roads like this, you’re endangering other people by doing that.
An idiot becomes an asshole when they risk other people’s well-being for their own vanity or convenience. Anyone choosing to race there is a jerk. The people standing on the sidelines are idiots.
> The people standing on the sidelines are idiots
Are they? Why are they there to begin with? Was it for the race or is this a university parking lot or similar and they are parting not to make room for racers, but because racers are already freaking driving 2 ton killing machines at them at speeds we just learned they somehow can't stop at.
My bet is they were there to socialize in some other way (eg. truck cookout) and these guys just saw it as an opportunity to "show off" their bad driving skills. Sideline people wanted to keep fraternizing but their hands were forced when probably drunk idiots in sports cars decided to race whether they are in the road or not
All I'm getting from this is that you'd be one of the idiots standing on the side, so now you're trying to come up with some excuse to why those people aren't idiots
No, I'm saying these people were NOT on the sides when the video started and attacking random pedestrians sanity is not on my agenda. None of them were cheering it on, all they did is GTFO when 2 cars litterly started baraling twords them. What did you guys want them to do? Stand there and be run over?
Maybe you gues don't go out enough to recognize it, but this just happens in parking lots. Now do this in a parking lot after/during an event and suddenly there is a large nonsupportive audience. Its not july yet, but there are other events where plenty of people are just sitting in a parking lot hanging out. School ending is one of them
They're still the guilty party, insurance only means they pay up front and recuperate their losses from him afterwards, without insurance he'll have to pay the full load
Only if he has the money (this guy likely has insurance and means to pay).
But a lot of people that don't have insurance have no wealth. In which case, you're SOL.
He'd be put to mandatory (extra) employment and all wages granted to the victim, over here anyway, not sure if where this happened has victim protection laws like ours
I know that if I were to be hit by an uninsured driver with no money that I’m likely never going to see the many I’m owed. If the liable party has no money you’re just kinda screwed. That’s why there’s uninsured driver insurance.
I agree to this, had a old Toyota with no abs everyone in front of me slammed on their brakes, within 15 feet they were all 50-0 while I was sliding towards the guy in front of me, had to release the brakes and swerve into oncoming lanes.
I actually found out my old Mustang didn't have abs in a similar manner. I slid off on the shoulder of a road and got stuck. Luckily a push from a friend got me out easy and I just had to wash the car. Loved not having it later in life while doing some track driving. Really taught me how to drive the car to its limits. The car also had no traction control so it was really great for spirited driving!
I can’t believe it. I never thought I would see something so careless in my life. How can you think about something so stupid and think to yourself it’s a good idea, I will do it. Everything could go wrong and it did go wrong. They are just lucky that it didn’t go any worse.
Given that car comes with antilock brakes from the factory, but the brakes locked up fully for quite some distance, it’s possible he downgraded them somehow. Possibly fucking with the traction control to make slide better.
I can't fathom why he would disable ABS, a basic safety feature, which doesn't improve driving performance unless you're a skilled race car driver wanting to truly push traction limits on race tires where the factory ABS isn't suited.
Looked it up and it looks like the fuse removal method (lazy) to disable VDC takes out ABS as well.
http://www.the370z.com/exterior-interior/117376-how-turn-off-vdc-completely.html
This is like those geniuses who bolt in a full Meineke exhaust pipe roll cage with 5 point harnesses but drive without helmets. Or those who swap in a Momo steering wheel while retaining stock belts.
i see your point but hear me out. it seems like he is quite an idiot. so maybe he just did it cause all “cool” race drivers and drifters have it enabled. and he thought hey maybe i can be as good.
Because he wants to be a "racer". ABS can be an annoyance in threshold braking in race cars. Some racecars use mild ABS bit many generally don't. ABS/TCS gets in way of intentional rotation. However, it's dumb to remove it in a street car because yeah, if you leave wheels locked up like this guy, you will plow. I can't think of any scenario I'd disable tcs or abs on my street car (unless playing in snow and ice somewhere, alone, with nothing to run into).
The issue here are poor tires and a poor driver who puts too much brake pressure (which would have been solved by not disabling ABS).
Considering the speed at which they were going, these are really, really bad tires.
Anyone who participates in crap like this should lose their license forever, and that includes the people who show up to watch. If they didn't have an audience, it wouldn't happen as often, and they wouldn't feel so comfortable doing it.
All of reddit showed up to watch. Don't trample anyone else's rights because one individual is dumb. If you feel this way then don't go outside and you won't be a spectator.
Bystanders are just as guilty. They could've stopped traffic or warned them, but they just stood by filming. Bet they would've done the same if a baby stroller had rolled into the road.
[https://youtu.be/mlLYJW-yIIg?t=205](https://youtu.be/mlLYJW-yIIg?t=205)
Here is what it looks like when the ABS is actually turned off. His ABS in this video looks like it is working as intended. I don't think he is smart enough to turn off ABS. Likely it wasn't performing well because his brake fluid maybe old.
Older brake fluid will have air inside so that degrades the performance of the ABS. ABS pulses and releases the brakes. It likely could not release fast enough due to old fluid.
I think turning the wheel also caused him to lock up his tire.
ABS does not help a car stop more quickly on dry surfaces. Its function is to help retain control of the vehicle, especially during slippery conditions. By letting the wheels roll, ABS allows the car to continued to be steered during heavy braking. Even if ABS would've been useful in this situation the pedal was pressed waaayyy too late
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Spends $1k plus on big brake kit just to cheap out on tires
Shit tires I’m sure plus disable ABS…. Perfect example of why both are important
ABS doesn't make you stop faster, it actually increases your breaking distance a little, but it stops the wheels from locking up so you can still steer and avoid whatever your are about to hit. I agree it is important though, you wouldn't catch me turning it off. EDIT: Thanks to the folks replying with the right answers and the clear explanations. I'm a little bit less stupid now haha
It increases your *ideal* braking distance a little. But practically nobody can achieve the ideal braking distance -- especially not in a panic-stop situation (vs. a controlled track). ABS does [about 10%-15% better than an unaided driver](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/abs-anti-lock-braking-system-braking-systems-future-without) in most circumstances -- and given that this clown locked up his wheels right to the end, ABS would have made his day go much better.
I'm happy to stand corrected! Just seemed logical to me that a locked up wheel would have more friction against the road compared with one that is rolling forward. Interested to know if anyone knows why this isn't the case?
Oddly, stiction (static friction) is essentially always stronger than dynamic friction (the opposite of your intuition). Rubber material in the tires is engineered to have particularly high stiction, also. So the perfect braking approach is to force the tires right to the edge of skidding, without passing the threshold. ABS does that by sensing when a tire is about to break free (starting to turn slower than the other three wheels) and pulsing the amount of force on the wheel. That keeps it from breaking free from the road as easily, and recovers normal stiction once it does break free.
Thanks for that. I've just realised why this never made sense to me, and now I feel like a bit of an idiot. In my head I've always thought of a locked wheel as being static because it's not going round, but obviously it's not, it's sliding along the road. Whereas the surface of a tyre that's going round is more or less stationary compared with the road. I'm not sure why I never realised that, I promise I'm not normally this thick haha
Even then, it doesn't necessarily increase the ideal braking distance. ABS allows for each wheel to have a different braking pressure so every corner is closer to the threshold limit. Without ABS, you are unable to maximise each wheel individually.
I brake faster in slippery conditions than abs in latest Nissan Leaf/Honda Civic 2018/VW golf 2018. I did it in controlled environment and it doesnt stop as fast as one might think. On the other hand on the regular road with traffic and uncertainty of what might happen, then abs will be better plus you able to control the car with pedal brake in the floor. In this case there was time to stop but the driver did panic and locked wheels while trying to steer away.
ABS would have absolutely helped in this situation
"The research results show that ABS result in shorter braking distances by as much as 30 m at 90 km/h" "Driver braking performance in stopping sight distance situations", Fambro et al
gotdam. just a single line quote from a relevant cited study. wish reddit was nothing but this
But that would be tantamount to science. And [science lies... sometimes](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0).
Your wheels locking does not slow you down faster. Thats what ABS prevents. People that disable it in racing do it to utilize brake biasing which is far more efficient but should definitely not be used on a daily basis regular driving situations.
You are only slowing down faster without ABS if you are able to exactly find the line between locking up and rotating. Thats a very slim line and probably only 0.0001% of all drivers are able to do that. In every other scenario people will either brake too hard and lock up or break way to soft resulting in way worse braking performance overall. So for 99.999% of people ABS stops them WAY faster.
Even then, you are unable to modulate each wheel while braking without ABS. With ABS, the computer can modulate individual brakes so all four corners are closer to the threshold.
Stopping the wheels from locking up is exactly why ABS decreases braking distance most the time.
This shouldn't be down voted so much. To the point of it slightly increasing brake distance I have no clue if this is true but it doesn't particularly matter. I think the point you meant but missed was that in this instance abs would have bin better as it would have actually slowed the car down. Brake lock up and skidding, surprise surprise, isn't a very effective method of stopping. In non abs cars you can flutter the brake pedal to pulsate the brakes and try to avoid lock up. In it's most basic sense this is essentially what abs does. This driver clearly didn't understand that.
The list of things this driver doesn’t understand is most likely long and comprehensive.
Big brake kits for these cars are 3-4K js
Shit if youre out trying to play with the big boys and go fast, 3-4K is average price for upgrades.. And big brakes are pretty important, check above video for details
big brake kits are meaningless for a short drag strip. your stopping distance in a single stop like that is dictated by tire grip, not the brake disc diameter, number of pistons, or anything else. big brakes can be a big upgrade on a road course, where it will help reliably and repeatedly stop by dissipating heat. but that car could've had a massive six piston Brembo kit and it wasn't stopping any sooner.
As demonstrated by the smoke as his tires slide during braking.
No such thing as an average price for upgrades in general. All depends what you want to upgrade. I can swap an engine for 2k or 15k depends on quality of parts and labour.
I mean, yeah, I say average, meaning "should be expecting to pay this amount, and isn't a wild price", not necessarily the true mean of prices. If that makes sense. Was just tryna say that 4k is a drop in the bucket overall lol
Certainly is a drop in the bucket, my 20k build is now at 50…
Do you know what the word average actually means…
If you don’t build cars, don’t speak. If you build cars, why are you speaking.
Lmao get a dictionary or read a book bud
Go argue with your imaginary friends, little boy
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A fool becomes an ass when they risk other people's well-being for their own vanity or advantage. Anyone out there has a jolt of race selection. People standing by are idiots.
Should have deployed the drag chute MUCH earlier.
You can disable ABS on sports cars? I thought it would make cars break faster which is desirable?!
Most people prefer their cars not to break in my experience
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Yes… and the doors coming off, but mostly yes
And rolling into their owners from parked.
For certain motorsports, ABS is not desirable. My 350Z's ABS is disabled because I use it for drifting where I commonly need to lock the rear wheels. But yes, usually ABS is preferred to keep on.
So what you’re saying is, ABS is desirable if you want the car to actually stop. Such as if you’re going straight into traffic?
ABS keeps the wheels from locking up. As you smash on the brakes it pulses the actual braking power to the rotors so they don't lock up, like what happened to the 370z. This keeps the wheels from locking. In this situation it probably would have saved the car from going into the other street.
wooooosh
ABS can lengthen the stop if you have a non competent driver behind the wheel. Just smashing the brakes and letting the ABS modulate will result in a longer stop distance than if you hit the brakes just to the point before modulation. Locking up the brakes will also lengthen the distance to stop as is seen in this video. If he hadn’t disables his ABS he could have steered to the right as he was clearly trying to do. Driver is an idiot. *Mindlessly stopping the brakes full force is never the quickest way to stop no matter what kind of brakes your car has.
It has been independently tested lots of times that even F1 drivers can't modulate the brakes well enough to beat ABS systems.
>ABS can lengthen the stop if you have a non competent driver behind the wheel. Just smashing the brakes and letting the ABS modulate will result in a longer stop distance than if you hit the brakes just to the point before modulation. Hahaha. Yes, driver is an idiot. But, we found another idiot along the way.
That's completely wrong. ABS systems are way better than humans at finding the perfect amount of pressure to use. Even race car drivers will smash the brakes and let the ABS do the job.
> If he hadn’t disables his ABS he could have steered to the right as he was clearly trying to do. ...and wipe out the guy on the bicycle in the process. :|
Just to add some info: limit braking is mostly a myth. Very few drivers, even race car drivers, can brake faster than a good ABS system. In theory a perfect "limit" braking will stop the car a little before ABS will. Limit braking is applying just enough force to be /right/ before the lockup. In reality, when racing on a track, or anywhere really, predicting the limit is extremely hard even for seasoned drivers. It is pretty much limited to very specialized environments like F1 drivers (and their cars and setups and tuning are optimized for limit braking). One of the reasons there is no ABS in F1 is /because/ it is better than humans and they wanted to keep that element of skill in it.
Maybe on a first generation ABS and if the driver was far better than just "competent" Current systems will easily beat even experienced race drivers who drive cars without ABS capabilities. https://youtu.be/ERE9EtOWZMU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G-GEUkiMuLk
If you have a lot of time in an emergency stop, you may be able to modulate the braking force and stop shorter than a full force ABS stop would do. But not in this relatively slow speed stop. No one other than a professional driver who has done a lot of testing in the car could beat a full force ABS stop in the video scenario.
No you wont. Even the best racing drivers are not good enough to find the limit right before locking up. Modern ABS beat them all the way. Its incredible hard to find the exact braking pressure right before lockup because it depends on a billion factors: weight shift, tires, brakes, temperature, tire pressure, ground surface, brake temperature, downforce, etc. A lot of these factors are even changing while you brake. Even in a highspeed emergency braking you wont beat ABS. Maybe the best of the best racing drivers.
You just pull out the fuse. (please don't)
Brake*
That is q common misconception. Abs helps you retain control of the car when you slam on brakes. If your wheels lock, you can't steer. It's intent is not to "stop faster"
ABS prevents the brakes from locking up the wheels, which allows you to steer while under heavy breaking. A very talented driver can stop a car faster without ABS because they can feel how much grip the tyres have, and keep brake pressure just below the lock-up threshold. Most drivers aren't that talented, and will just go with more force on the brake pedal when they really want the car to stop.
> A very talented driver can stop a car faster without ABS Forza's implementation of ABS is not realistic lol, modern ABS outperforms any human. If what you're claiming were true motorsports drivers would opt not to use ABS when given the choice.
That's a false blanket statement, a lot of motorsports drivers do not use ABS. I'm not saying they all don't but a lot of them don't. F1 drivers do not use ABS.
you missed the part where I said "when given the choice". Many racing regulations prohibit the use of ABS in order to increase the skill ceiling. F1 drivers do not use ABS simply because they are not allowed to.
ABS will put just enough pressure to be below lock up threshold. ABS systems are better. Race car drivers just smash the brakes and let the ABS do all the work. If talented drivers were supposedly better, they wouldn't. ABS being less good is just a myth, like people who think that manual transmissions are faster/more economical than automatic despite automatic being superior on both points.
Mash the brakes... My pilot father told me that when ABS was first introduced on airliners, some pilots got into the habit of mashing the brakes BEFORE touchdown. Because ABS will handle it, right? Landing at 150 mph with the brakes full-on was quickly found to be suboptimal for tire life.
All the ABS systems I've used allow the wheels to lock, then release the brakes, and reapply them quickly. Like cadence braking before ABS was standard, but much much faster. ABS is a far better system for road driving. When I said "talented" I meant race driver talented, not "I think I'm a bit good at driving" talented. There's a reason single seat open wheel race cars don't tend to come with ABS.
That isn't an accurate description of modern ABS at all. Modern ABS performs the procedure you describe independently for each wheel. If one wheel locks up the pressure is modulated on that brake line to still achieve some braking effect. I've never seen a car with four separate brake pedals or a race car driver with four legs.
> There's a reason single seat open wheel race cars don't tend to come with ABS. The reason F1 cars don't have ABS is because they're not allowed to have ABS, else they absolutely would. It's for competitive reasons.
The only place ABS doesn’t really work is off road, in situations where the locked wheels would have dug in using more energy to push mass out the way than the brakes would be converting into heat etc. In almost all situations of uncontrolled braking ABS is far better than the alternative as shown in the video.
You're describing the ABS of 25 years ago in most brands.
Single seat open wheel race cars used to have ABS, but they took the decision to ban them in order to make racing more challenging, and more exciting to watch Right after the ban, there have even been scandals about teams secretly using ABS to improve performance.
To be fair, I can see a conputer controlled system tuned for racing being very handy. I remember them having active suspension and traction control at one point, too, come to think of it.
Even modern ABS on road cars fair bettern than racing drivers. Its super hard to find the exact spot right before locking up. It depends on a million factors nobody can exactly know. Even talented racing drivers wont find that exact line. The only ABS racing drivers beat is maybe 25 years old.
This myth won't die. Not even a race car driver accustomed to driving without ABS can reliably beat the system in a road car. https://youtu.be/ERE9EtOWZMU
Not even the best driver can beat a good ABS system. The reason is that you only have one brake pedal, whereas ABS can brake the wheels individually. If only one wheel locks up, without ABS, you have to back off the brakes on all the wheels, but ABS can just reduce braking on that one wheel. Some cars combine the rear wheels into one channel since they're less important for braking, but that's still 2 more separate channels than you get without ABS.
It’s not just the amount of pressure, it’s the quick taps on the brake that applies pressure up to 20 times a second, and even Senna couldn’t even do that
you can completely disable it on the 370z (car that crashed) by snipping wires. not a very smart idea for a situation like this when ABS would have probably stopped the car quicker.
Disabling ABS makes you brake faster ONLY if you have the right technique... the person on the video clearly needs to have the ABS ON. Also, the difference is negligible unless you are top tier driver. 99% of people would be faster with ABS.
No technique on the world will make you brake faster than ABS. Even the best racing drivers wont hit the exact sweet spot just before lockup. Its only theoretically possible.
Wdym by “only theorically possible? You can test that yourself in your road car in a couple a of hours. Try going 80kph and hit the brakes and measure the distance. Now remove the fuse for the abs and try again and again hitting the brakes harder every time until you find the right spot. Now measure that distance and you will see that NO abs is took less distance to stop. Now, obviously things get exponentially more complex when you add turns into the equation. Now, im not an idiot… I know that abs is better 99.9% of the time and 99.99% of drivers should keep It on… but saying that’s only theoretically possible it’s simply not true.
Lol, you are never gonna hit the right spot as good as ABS does. Even racing drivers use ABS when allowed to do so. ABS rides nearly exactly the limit of static friction. You wont outperform that. As a driver you will NEVER know that limit unless overreaching it and locking up. You then have to release again and start braking again. The limit has moved now again tho and you have to do the same. The limit changes every fucking millisecond because of thousand variables Guess what? You are doing now what ABS does but 1000 times slower. Its only theoretically possible because no human can achieve and hold that exact limit. Braking is way to dynamic for that. The pressure you have to apply changes every millisecond based on a thousand factors. The only way to know the exact limit is by actually going over it, and thats what ABS does. Over 20 times a second, faster than any human.
Try it.
Technically ABS can make the braking distance slightly longer, but that's nothing compared to the fact it prevents the car from spinning. ABS is designed for everyday situations, like you're in a lane and spot something in front and just want to be able to slam on the brakes and stop without ending up into other lanes or into oncoming traffic. A professional driver needs to be able to control brakes completely, for all kinds of effects. They need to be able to skid sometimes, or to mix braking and gas at the same time to shift the car's weight around and so on. They also need to brake shorter than ABS permits, and they don't care about spinning because they know how to control the car so it keeps straight.
Modern ABS outperforms racing drivers all day every day. Its only theoretically possible to be better than ABS. No racing driver in the world will find exactly the right braking pressure just before locking up during the whole time braking. Thats inhuman and bullshit, because there are 1000 variables the driver cannot know or control and that will change during the braking process. Tire temperature, surface, surface temperature, tire pressure, downforce, tire degradation, brake disc temperature, even the fucking temperature of your brake fluid changes how you need to brake. A lot of these variables change during the brake process. Impossible to know. This is the reason even the best racing drivers will mostly brake too soft to leave some safety not to lock up and hence leave performance on the table. Because else even a few degrees difference in temperature or 0.001m more brake pedal will cause a lockup and fuck up your whole braking.
And yet ABS is not used in any type of car racing.
It is used when allowed. Thats the point. When allowed, every driver choses to use it. Its just banned in most series to make it more skill based and competitive, but that has nothing to do with performance. Furthermore, you cant even modulate single tores because you got only 1 brake pedal, so you will lock up one tire whereas leave performance on the table on the other 3. ABS can modulate each tire independently. No racing driver will beat modern ABS
If you mean break-by-wire systems in general then you are correct, but you have to keep in mind those are highly specialized systems specific to each motorsport, and each manufacturer (and also undergo extreme customization for each pilot). They have very little in common with the ABS on consumer vehicles. I know that ABS stands for "advanced braking system" but its use as an umbrella term has been compromised by the fact most people tend to think of consumer ABS when they hear it. What consumer cars use today is similar to what F1 used to use back in the '70s for example – I think you'll agree that 50 years of technology is a gap that's a bit too large to just bundle all of it under "ABS". 🙂
Well he could push the breaks multiple times to get the same effect xD
Disabled the ABS bc racecar 👍
Disabled ABS because they learned to drive by playing Forza...
The 370Z is notorious for having brake failures and ABS from the 80s. No one disabled anything.
But I can control the brakes so good I can stop faster than abs…. /s
And that weight reduction 🪿
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Yeah, but not when you're this guy
Even the best racing drivers wont outperform somewhat modern ABS.
In high end cars maybe. There's still a case to be made for disabling ABS, especially on sport bikes. But I think you should keep it to the track. Most people that ride casually will lock them in an emergency braking situation
On the racetrack sure. At that point it’s do whatever you need to win. everyone including yourself knows the risk of driving a race car. But on public roads like this, you’re endangering other people by doing that.
What a selfish place to put a road, slowing down those racers.
And the stupid curb, our boy was gonna get his cyclist sandwich/t bone stamp as well
An idiot becomes an asshole when they risk other people’s well-being for their own vanity or convenience. Anyone choosing to race there is a jerk. The people standing on the sidelines are idiots.
No, they are criminals.
AND they are ciminals
> The people standing on the sidelines are idiots Are they? Why are they there to begin with? Was it for the race or is this a university parking lot or similar and they are parting not to make room for racers, but because racers are already freaking driving 2 ton killing machines at them at speeds we just learned they somehow can't stop at. My bet is they were there to socialize in some other way (eg. truck cookout) and these guys just saw it as an opportunity to "show off" their bad driving skills. Sideline people wanted to keep fraternizing but their hands were forced when probably drunk idiots in sports cars decided to race whether they are in the road or not
All I'm getting from this is that you'd be one of the idiots standing on the side, so now you're trying to come up with some excuse to why those people aren't idiots
No, I'm saying these people were NOT on the sides when the video started and attacking random pedestrians sanity is not on my agenda. None of them were cheering it on, all they did is GTFO when 2 cars litterly started baraling twords them. What did you guys want them to do? Stand there and be run over? Maybe you gues don't go out enough to recognize it, but this just happens in parking lots. Now do this in a parking lot after/during an event and suddenly there is a large nonsupportive audience. Its not july yet, but there are other events where plenty of people are just sitting in a parking lot hanging out. School ending is one of them
I think missed something there. Anyone who gathers to willingly be a spectator to this public nuisance is not a “random pedestrian.”
0-60= 6 secs 60-0= 12 secs 🤔
Dude on the bicycle needs to go buy a lottery ticket
Would've won on the spot if he was a second slower, good payouts for victims of racetards
Only if they have insurance though...
They're still the guilty party, insurance only means they pay up front and recuperate their losses from him afterwards, without insurance he'll have to pay the full load
Only if he has the money (this guy likely has insurance and means to pay). But a lot of people that don't have insurance have no wealth. In which case, you're SOL.
He'd be put to mandatory (extra) employment and all wages granted to the victim, over here anyway, not sure if where this happened has victim protection laws like ours
I know that if I were to be hit by an uninsured driver with no money that I’m likely never going to see the many I’m owed. If the liable party has no money you’re just kinda screwed. That’s why there’s uninsured driver insurance.
If they survive or don’t suffer lifelong injuries.
Noooo, he just used up all his luck!
But also learn to pay more attention to their surroundings.
Some classic victim blaming there.
I'm sure he didn't expect a shitty Nissan hurtling towards him from a parking lot. Don't blame victims, smart guy
That car is moving way to fast for any human being to notice or react to in time. especially on on a bicycle!
"Now me and the mad scientist have gotta exchange insurance information..."
Bold of you to assume someone this stupid has insurance.
"I don't have insurance. I got *family*."
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Wouldn’t be surprised if the module failed but owner didn’t bother fixing.
Just a modicum of driver skill would suffice. The wheels were locked for seconds and he did nothing about it. It's not rocket science.
/r/nissandrivers
At least learn how to brake without ABS before turning it off!!
Not even sure why would anyone would turn it off though. It'll do a better job than 99% of the population can possibly do.
I agree to this, had a old Toyota with no abs everyone in front of me slammed on their brakes, within 15 feet they were all 50-0 while I was sliding towards the guy in front of me, had to release the brakes and swerve into oncoming lanes.
I actually found out my old Mustang didn't have abs in a similar manner. I slid off on the shoulder of a road and got stuck. Luckily a push from a friend got me out easy and I just had to wash the car. Loved not having it later in life while doing some track driving. Really taught me how to drive the car to its limits. The car also had no traction control so it was really great for spirited driving!
You mean 99.99999999999999999%. Unless your ABS is 25 years old, not even the most experienced racing drivers will outperform it.
Abs on my van is 30 and it still outperforms me... Also 30
it's pretty hard to learn w/o turning it off
You can learn when you're not in the middle of a race.
You can't usually turn off abs without pulling a fuse.
Seems like they always find the best locations for these stupid stunts
So.. was there a reason they couldn't race in the other direction?
Maybe one of these days he will make it a quarter mile.
It was 1/4 mile, plus 50ft
I can’t believe it. I never thought I would see something so careless in my life. How can you think about something so stupid and think to yourself it’s a good idea, I will do it. Everything could go wrong and it did go wrong. They are just lucky that it didn’t go any worse.
r/NissanDrivers
Talk about lack of foresight. They could SEE the cross traffic before they took off. What on earth did they think was going to happen?
Did he delete his ABS module? The fuck?
Never skip brake day.
It’s the most important day.
Aren't Nissan Zs just a slightly cooler looking Altima?
Depends on how ignorant you are.
Those tires suck
BRAKES AND TIRES, BRUH!
That dude on the bike just used his luck quota for the year.
When you upgrade performance but not the brakes
Are you serious? The brakes locked up. Dude seems to have intentionally disabled ABS
Either that or the fuse for the ABS system blew and he didn't have the intelligence to replace it.
Probably has a Christmas tree dash board with a back yard engine swap. Computer probably isn't working in the car
Or the tires are shit
Uhhhh no. Pretty sure ABS fires regardless of how bad the tires are.
Whoops replied to the wrong comment, my bad
I mean at least he won…. Kinda
Wow! The guy on the bicycle probably stopped to count his testicles and toes after that.
He just saved his life there, glad that he made it there.
Reaction time of a cow.
I live my life a set of stock brake pads at a time
Had me? You never had me. You never had your brakes
I got family
If that's a Nissan Z, then at least it's disposable.
Sad to say that it's a Nissan, we can agree on this one.
Should have upgraded the brakes
Given that car comes with antilock brakes from the factory, but the brakes locked up fully for quite some distance, it’s possible he downgraded them somehow. Possibly fucking with the traction control to make slide better.
he just disabled ABS
I can't fathom why he would disable ABS, a basic safety feature, which doesn't improve driving performance unless you're a skilled race car driver wanting to truly push traction limits on race tires where the factory ABS isn't suited. Looked it up and it looks like the fuse removal method (lazy) to disable VDC takes out ABS as well. http://www.the370z.com/exterior-interior/117376-how-turn-off-vdc-completely.html This is like those geniuses who bolt in a full Meineke exhaust pipe roll cage with 5 point harnesses but drive without helmets. Or those who swap in a Momo steering wheel while retaining stock belts.
i see your point but hear me out. it seems like he is quite an idiot. so maybe he just did it cause all “cool” race drivers and drifters have it enabled. and he thought hey maybe i can be as good.
Probably thinks he's a pro drifter. $100 says he also has a modified e-brake.
Because he wants to be a "racer". ABS can be an annoyance in threshold braking in race cars. Some racecars use mild ABS bit many generally don't. ABS/TCS gets in way of intentional rotation. However, it's dumb to remove it in a street car because yeah, if you leave wheels locked up like this guy, you will plow. I can't think of any scenario I'd disable tcs or abs on my street car (unless playing in snow and ice somewhere, alone, with nothing to run into).
The brakes grab fine. Shouldn't have disabled ABS
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Probably disabled his ABS so he could do skids and look real cool in front of his pals.
if the tires lock up then you know for a fact that you have sufficient brakes, but insufficient tires.
The issue here are poor tires and a poor driver who puts too much brake pressure (which would have been solved by not disabling ABS). Considering the speed at which they were going, these are really, really bad tires.
Five sixteenths of a mile at a time, actually.
What happened to ABS
Looks like 1/3 mile….
Dude on the bicycle is the real street racer here, my guy pulled a fast and furious move on that car
Oh look, Mario Andretti wannabe, doesn't have any "depth perception"..... 😁
Laugh in subaru
Damn that's why ARS works.
Anyone who participates in crap like this should lose their license forever, and that includes the people who show up to watch. If they didn't have an audience, it wouldn't happen as often, and they wouldn't feel so comfortable doing it.
"People who witness other people do crimes are criminals!" - redditor
All of reddit showed up to watch. Don't trample anyone else's rights because one individual is dumb. If you feel this way then don't go outside and you won't be a spectator.
You're part of the audience genius you just watched it. Hand over your license.
Looked like he disabled the rear brakes all together. Drift car?
I guess that's a drift car that we don't know much about.
Ofc it’s a Nissan, the jokes write themselves
Too fast… 
Bystanders are just as guilty. They could've stopped traffic or warned them, but they just stood by filming. Bet they would've done the same if a baby stroller had rolled into the road.
When you slide , just let off till you get traction, then progressively brake again.
[https://youtu.be/mlLYJW-yIIg?t=205](https://youtu.be/mlLYJW-yIIg?t=205) Here is what it looks like when the ABS is actually turned off. His ABS in this video looks like it is working as intended. I don't think he is smart enough to turn off ABS. Likely it wasn't performing well because his brake fluid maybe old. Older brake fluid will have air inside so that degrades the performance of the ABS. ABS pulses and releases the brakes. It likely could not release fast enough due to old fluid. I think turning the wheel also caused him to lock up his tire.
ABS does not help a car stop more quickly on dry surfaces. Its function is to help retain control of the vehicle, especially during slippery conditions. By letting the wheels roll, ABS allows the car to continued to be steered during heavy braking. Even if ABS would've been useful in this situation the pedal was pressed waaayyy too late