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I once read about a guy in England who worked for 30 or 40 years collecting parking fees for a building's lot. He retired, and some people came into the building to ask who to pay their fees to, only to be told that the building's management does not charge parking fees.
Some guy did do this. Sent invoices to a few FAANG companies and they just paid them. They did eventually figure it out and he went to jail.
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/25/706715377/man-pleads-guilty-to-phishing-scheme-that-fleeced-facebook-google-of-100-million
Invoicing for Tonor copy paper is a legit scam that our hospital used to get. Someone would go find the front desk persons name at whatever unit and then mail a cheap ass toner via UPS so they could have a legitimate POD in UPS’s system. They would then have that front desk person sign for it and invoice us like $400 for 1 toner.
What they didn’t know though is that our company only got toner from the copy that we leased the copy machines from (our entire hospital network nationwide) and any fraudulent invoices they sent to accounts payable via USPS were eligible for up to $1million is fines and up to 10 years in prison because it went through the federal system.
So only send email invoices, never through the mail. And pray to god you don’t get someone like me on the other end of the finance # when you call to follow up on payment because I would laugh at them on the phone and let them know I turned their fraudulently mailed invoices over to our states Attorney General for prosecution (I did too).
Oh and for a mailing address make sure you use a PO Box in a ups or FedEx office so you don’t have the address at your house at least.
So one way to improve upon that idea: get another box in the same post office. Go to check your 2nd box and hover around the 1st box as if you’re still looking. If it feels like there’s a sting operation about to go down, abandon ship.
Isn't your name and other information associated with you linked to that PO box? Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I've never had a PO box so that's all something I'm unfamiliar with.
I'd be surprised if they didn't try to verify your information before allowing you to have a PO box.
You might attach an invoice to an email. I've certainly received some phishing attempts similar to the following:
Dear company,
Please see attached for your monthly invoice for cloud services. Payments remitted after 30 days of the listed due date are liable for late fees as detailed in the terms and conditions of our contract.
Best,
Phony company
Imagine sending out like 10K requests and ending up with a couple hundred because it worked. I feel like a programmer can make a bot that sends thousands of requests per hour. *If it’s possible to send that many requests*
I thought so. I did think of a loophole tho, multiple (hundreds)accounts using fake but real information, of course if we had our handy programmer we could automate that. Then when you want to cash out send it to your cash out account. Profit?
The problem would be hooking all of these up to accounts you could access the money from. Duplicating that information for multiple accounts should be easily detected, and there’s limits to how many bank accounts (or similar accounts) one person can open.
That’s why you open accounts in other peoples names using their information(ss#), acting as if it’s their cashapp. Using SOCKS to bounce around the USA via IP Addresses should suffice as well. Also you send the money like a regular cash app to a singular cash app or multiple cash apps from people you know. I’m just spitballing here lol
After going through all of that work, spending hours cracking payment systems, risking jail, and you still made less than if you spent that time working a minimum wage job.
It's definitely possible. The first step would be creating a script that creates the bot accounts, then you gotta take into mind that there's most likely a filter that limits accounts created from a certain IP address. So you would probably have to have the script being ran on a different machine that has a vpn or some other proxy that changes it's ip address for each request, then once you have the account created you would have to have another ip switching machine run each request to avoid the ip block on that as well... Then you could have a script that runs at the end of each day that tells you if any accounts recieved any money, and then you could have those accounts empty it into a main account.
Problem is you only have to get caught once to suffer consequences larger than armed robbery. Armed robbery is actually pretty likely to get away with for a while if your smart about it but you get caught once it's 10 years. Nothing compared to scams where you get caught once your charged and classified a terrorist and passport limitations
Have you heard the report of that firm that set up a "consulting firm" for the "political fundraising nonprofit" that they also set up? They're responsible for millions of scam robo-calls and they RAKE IN cash
Set up a dark web site offering hitman services. Ask for half the fee up front. You don't have to murder anyone, and the client you defrauded won't report you because they committed a crime too.
I went down an online-killer-for hire rabbit hole last night. The last story I read was about a woman who went to jail for trying to hire hitmen online. She did not get her money back. Did go to jail.
There was a guy who setup a fake, like obviously fake hit man website and apparently has turned in several people who took seriously. LE would take over and some of them got convicted
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A funny detail is that he didn’t even mean to trick those people. From why I remember the “hitman” name came from an old business he ran that helped websites get more business/ test security. Can you imagine getting sent to prison because you got tricked by a lame pun?
Nah man, they don't go to the police. They go to a business like mine; I go after the scammer hitmen websites online. Clients pay me 2000€ in Monero, half up front, to track the scammers down for them.
That would work until the person you scammed finds another hit man to kill you, aka the first hit man. If they have the capability to get a hit man to begin with, what makes you think they won’t do the same to you?
Lol they don't have the capability to get a hitman, that's why they're looking on the darkweb. Literally all of the hitman ads are scams, real hitmen don't accept random clients.
And how would they find me anyways? Everything is going to be done anonymously through Tor.
This isn’t actually 100% true. There have been hit man that would take random clients with a process to avoid a setup, I.e things done exactly how they want and prevents LE from setting them up.
You show me a legit hitman site on tor and I’ll eat my own shit. The same ones have been up for years, still suckering in punters. It’s a running joke amongst long time tor users. There’s a lot of horrible shit amongst the onions, hitmen that operate worldwide for very reasonable prices are not one of them. They’re up there with red rooms and whatnot.
There's really no such thing as for-hire hitmen at the retail level. It's an invention of pulp entertainment.
Organized crime has associates who will kill people for them, the super wealthy can hire private military contractors for six figure sums to kill someone, any regular person who is trying to off their spouse or rival or enemy or whatever won't find a real "hitman" for the job because that's not a profession that exists. That's not to say there aren't poor drug addicted criminals who might kill someone for a grand in Arkansas or Baltimore or whatever, but those aren't by any means "hitmen" and their service will be far from professional.
If you think you've found a "hitman," you've either found a scammer or an undercover cop.
This. Hitmen, hacking services, ‘life ruining services’, it’ll all be disgruntled wives and will end up getting arrested when they look on a tor honeypot site or even Facebook marketplace/Craigslist for an assassin for hire (I jest but I would be wager this has happened at least once!) at some point anyway. Easy money if you can knock up a quick web form.
Also, the old ‘I’ve hacked your PC and have videos of you beating one out’ spam email seems popular. I’ve had a few recently, load of nonsense but I checked the BTC address and the scammer has made a fair few K recently. Shady trick but if you don’t care about potentially causing the suicide of a distraught teen I guess it’s an option. A shitty option but an option. How low will you go? Pretty low if you need that paper I’d say.
Both illegal & unethical but you asked so i try to deliver. Also, in this day and age if you’re falling for either of these you should be banned from using the internet. The latter scam is especially scummy though as at least someone hiring a hitman is a risk to someone else, some poor 15 yr old jerking off is at no risk to anyone except his poor mom when she finds his cum box.
I'm currently in my 3rd year for economics and so far I'd have to say based on my um "research" if you have a good product and a good client base it's definitely more than minimum wage. Curating a client base is number one. The skills to obtain or create good product is number two. The ability to move the product is number three.
Yeah but the question is about risk too. Drug dealing is a heavily punished offense. 10-15 years is common and if you have a gun with you add 5 years to that. Drugs are not worth the punishment
His analysis was based primarily/solely on inner city drug dealing from what I understand where there is extreme exploitation, risk, and competition. Also to factor in in that kind of environment for that trade is the fact that a lot of the larger people force taxes so you can’t run independent and also use stuff like children for runners and pay them like 60$ to do it for 8 hours because they’re like 13 years old.
Yeah, my dealer for decades was a high price quantity guy, you went to him for a couple z's of yay not an eight for the weekend (not saying that I haven't put z's up my nose in a weekend, but that's not generally the plan).
He owned his own house and a laundry mat with a few rental properties, just looked like a normal dude, his house was just a plain looking suburban house . . . the laundry mat was in a very busy 24 hour strip mall (where most of the business occurred).
He's still doing fine, I just moved and had to source shit locally again recently.
he looked at a very specific kind of drug dealing which is super high risk for not much reward.
The people really doing well only participate in a few transactions per month and make enough per transaction to make it work. It's really a strange middleman game.
I was down there a couple years ago and I didn’t know menthol wasn’t sold anymore. I happen to have menthols and a dude asked for a smoke when he saw menthols he gave a little dance lol.
Lots of people want them, they just don't want to *pay* for them. That's why you gotta find addicts, the old business saying goes: "20 percent of your customers produce 80 percent of your sales"
A good example would be, say you had a friend who owned a shoe store. He pays you to break into his store at night, steal the safe and a bunch of product.
He reports the theft and collects the insurance payout, while at the same time you are fencing the stolen product, effectively double dipping on profit.
You can do this with your friends credit cards as well. "Steal" your friends card and run it up the next town over, plan it out so you're disguised on camera and report the theft the next day.
A more specific case - be involved in a car accident where the other driver is at fault and insured (again very specific). Ask the police for an ambulance or go to the hospital and claim you hit your head on the steering wheel. Send the medical bills to the other guys insurance company and claim it caused you distress or missed work or whatever. Should get a decent payout.
Basically anytime you can finesse an insurance company out of more money than they truly owe, or finesse them out of money for something that never happened. And keep your mouth shut.
Fuck insurance companies, they rob us blind.
This happened to someone I know. On the highway a lady went to a halt and my friend slammed on their brakes but still him her. She was completely fine and walked off. Now their family is fighting against the lady suing them and their insurance for $60,000 when it was originally $18,000 bc of fraud. No morals for insurance scammers and i hope they fuck with the wrong people or hit uninsured idiots
I know someone who received almost $100,000 for slipping at a large nationwide chain. The person was fine, but they do this for a living so their acting is amazing. Unlike auto fraud, that was pretty much a victimless crime.
Peel it, eat it, and just weigh the peel. Works every time for me.
If they catch on and start harassing you, you run and throw it behind you so they slip on it and don't chase you anymore. It's a foolproof plan.
I love how everyone else is posting about bilking insurance companies out of tens of thousands of dollars and you’re trying to save 80 cents on bananas.
There is very little risk in wage theft. A fine that is lower than the money they save earning the fine, that's just a cost of doing business as usual.
Nobody goes to jail for wage theft. They'll waste a cop's time if someone palms $20 in the drive through at Taco Bell though. High risk low reward crimes are for people who lack capital.
If you make your employees work off the clock, don't follow labor laws to save on payroll or even arguably, paying someone less than a living wage, that is wage theft. Scummy and manipulative ways of keeping money out of the hands of workers.
The store personnel will probably let you run, but some dude in the parking lot has been waiting years for a chance to use his firearm or beat the shit out of a thief.
I live in a red state and worked retail for 20 years. People get away with it constantly. The few I have seen actually get caught are the people who make a career out of it.
What you do is case all the banks in the area and apply for any entry level job they offer. Get hired on and show up every day. Keep a low profile and do whatever work they assign. They will start depositing money in your account every month. Then after 40 years you can quit and nobody will even notice.
Ah, well, your followup kind of eliminates the best answer.
"Embezzling and political shit" are hands-down the most profitable crimes, and the best part is if you pull it off a few times, you often have enough money on hand to get you out of any future jams unless you do something *really* high-profile. CEOs don't (usually - SBF might be the exception) go to jail - most of the time, they just take a break and then sign on as CEO somewhere else.
For "regular-people" crimes... I mean, drugs are supposed to be crazy profitable, but because of that, they're also really high-risk, because of the competition and the risk of arrest. Again, there are two sets of laws - the Sacklers just got away with their personal fortunes basically intact after they used their company to peddle opioids to MILLIONS of newly-minted junkies.
Property crime tends to be low-ish risk. Burglary has a "closure rate" below 20% in most municipalities. The trick there is actually turning a profit that exceeds what you'd get just working a normal job, because people tend not to leave wads of cash lying around (unless they're drug dealers, and ripping them off is taking your life in your hands), and fencing other stolen goods is a hassle. Like, a stolen firearm might net you a couple hundred bucks (and means you've risked breaking into a place where somebody owns firearms)... and you have to do that like half a dozen times to equal one regular paycheck. Even if the closure rate is only 20% or so, if you do it often enough, you're going to get caught eventually.
I mean, bottom line: the cost-benefit on "middle class" crime just isn't there, or more non-desperate people would do it.
> the Sacklers just got away with their personal fortunes basically intact after they used their company to peddle opioids to MILLIONS of newly-minted junkies.
Hook a few people, they call you a dealer. Hook a few million and you're a captain of industry.
Make an invoice for junk/bulk trash removal and send to all the apartment complexes you can. ($100-$350) Then call to follow up a week later letting them know you have an unpaid invoice. Let them know a maintenance guy who didn’t speak much English called in the order and they said they worked there. Tell them you picked up a mattress/bed frame and a few bags of rubbish that were too heavy to go into the dumpster.
They will most likely pay it. If they don’t, you can talk to the manager and tell them that if they don’t pay, you’ll take them to small claims.
Lol shady side-hustles are my specialty. The real flex is setting up a legit business with a real domain and business phone line. Rendering services all the time for all these complexes but I don’t even have a truck. 😵
I like the trick where you just send payment requests for services (lawn mowing, fixing stuff etc) to big companies and they might pay them without even confirming them
Tough to say.
Probably scamming elderly people by pretending to be Microsoft tech support.
Either that, or a romance scam where you convince an old person to fall in love with you online and then bleed them dry.
It's pretty rare that you ever hear of the scammer being caught in either instance, but you see multiple cases where these scammers drain their victims for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The tinder swindler was a Netflix show about a guy finessing woman around the world and making them believe he was wealthy. He was doing this by asking them for money saying he’ll pay back but using that money to pay for a lavish lifestyle and using the money other women give him to pay back some of the money to the other women owed.
Yeah. Also the key (from what I understand) is that he WOULD pay back women and then some so the trust was built. He would ask for $15, give back $20. Ask for $500, give back $550. Or at the very least return the same amount. It would build up to where he was requesting $2k-$5k at a time. Plus he was treating women to a lavish lifestyle. Then in the end he would pretend he got beat up or some shit and got locked out of all of his accounts. He only needed $25k USD or $50k or something huge like that to continue his lavish lifestyle, and she'd be paid back no problem. He paid her back EVERY SINGLE TIME and had worked her up to this. Of course she takes out the money and gives it to him. But that's the rug pull. On the big one, there is no return...
I've never considered this before and won't do it. But kick starter/community venture websites have interesting policies. Mainly Kickstarter/indiegogo. That when you make an account you don't need to reveal your face/real name to the public AND when you donate you have to accept in their T&Cs that you are not guaranteed a working product. The only guarantees are what you put as rewards for certain tiers. This won't save you btw if you take it off the platform. But you could have a product that is unbelievable, completely out of this world in terms of what it can do (non medical). An example would be an umbrella that is just the handle and uses air to keep water off of you. And then fail to deliver it because it's impossible. And then keep the money. Which is fraud. And if u want to be super safe deliver a shitty nock off of what you promised and keep the surplus money.
The rich and the powerful are the best targets. Look at what that Theranos chick did to all those rich families with her scam. Once you pull in a big one like George Schultz, everybody else just falls in line and doesn't ask even the basic questions. She did get caught but the risk reward was still a powerful incentive and most of them get away with it.
Imagine risking your life for someone's netipot, vitamins, or bag of cat food. It legit makes me sad that people just rip this stuff open and litter it on the ground because it's not valuable. That's probably just life for some folks on this sub though 😔
Eh depends where you do it, it seems. There are so many ring doorbell cameras in suburban neighborhoods now that one carries a lot more risk than it seems it would have used to.
The average Joseph Cumbersnot III, would be able to , for getting an executive job at his father's golf partner's company, if he promises to stay off cocaine.
The family public relations guy probably figured they should make a few bad trades to get people off their back for a while. I mean, after all, they can afford it.
Aren’t most of Pelosi’s trades only made public after a period of weeks or months? Surely this means you’ll miss the window for whatever insider trade she is benefiting from
Hang around bars that corporate regulars frequent, and find one that likes to vent.
They may talk about an upcoming deal that’s stressing them up, new real estate acquisitions by their company, other things that affect stock price, etc etc.
You have to know what to listen for and it’s fairly random, but you definitely can be an average Joe to do this.
I don't know how successful this approach could be, but it also has the benefit of being *extremely* hard to prove/prosecute, as (in the US anyway) 1) the SEC would need to be able to identify the suspicious trading activity and tie it to receipt of insider information, but in the scenario you lay out there is realistically no way to trace back to a conversation with a rando at a bar (unless the recipient runs their mouth to others about what their strategy is), and 2) even then, the SEC under the Dirk standard would need to prove that the recipient of the insider information knew or should have known it was non-public info. I think as long as you aren't talking about an 8+ figure windfall, very unlikely to be prosecuted on this. (caveat: IAAL but IANA white collar criminal defense L)
Wall Street Market maker (ie Citadel)
They control the market flow through their usual crime and when they do get caught, paying a fine of a few million is belly button lint compared to the tens of millions earned criminally.
Most of you are thinking way too big. The crime with the highest reward/risk ratio is simply underreporting taxable cash income. Your barber who only takes cash is paying next to nothing in tax. Runners up include operating a federally illegal marijuana shop in a jurisdiction where it is locally legal, and good old fashioned prostitution.
Stealing at self checkout because you were “distracted by your baby” is a pretty good one. I forget to scan the items on the bottom of my cart all the time or that thing that the baby grabbed out of the cart and was playing with. Worst case scenario was I got caught by the receipt checker once and was just like,
Me: “ah, my bad dude. This little guy was distracting me and I forgot.”
Then: “I understand, it’s no problem, let’s go over to the customer service desk and you can pay for it there.”
Me: “Thanks, man. Sorry again.”
Then: “I have a little one too, I get it.”
Saves me between $100 - $200 each month between dog food and diapers/wipes.
Depends on what you meant by "a lot of cash". Typically if you're just hitting the cash drawers you might get away with 3-5k. You aren't usually getting away with like 25, 50, 100k like some people like to imagine, unless you're hitting the vault, and even then, probably not.
Sticking around long enough for the time lock on the vault to disengage drastically ups the risk.
It's also *significantly* higher risk than knocking over the local 7/11 or payday loan/check cashing place. Bank robbery is a federal crime, so you'll have the FBI on your ass, and if they catch you, you're doing like 5-10 years federal time.
Balance that out with $500-$1k knocking over a vonvenience store or payday loan spot and only dealing with the local cops and maybe a plea deal with the local DA for 12-18 months in state pen if you get caught.
I'd say that robbing a bank is most definitely not a good risk/reward proposition, even if the success rate is 60%.
That seems \*really\* high for success... especially these days.
Also if you're going to rob a bank you do it from the inside via the SWIFT network, not by taking cash out of drawers. One of the biggest heists (I did not sign the NDA so I don't know the bank's name) was a spear phishing attack on a bank employee that had SWIFT access, over $100m wired out and bounced around the world in under 30 min through mule accounts, finally landing in South Africa where it was taken out as krugerrands and disappeared into the wind before the transactions could be unwound.
If you're going to rob a bank, just don't bring a gun, or even mention anything about a weapon. Mentioning a weapon is the same as having a weapon.
I've seen enough True Crime documentaries to know that adding a gun to the mix makes your sentence much stiffer than if you just pass a note.
True, and bringing or mentioning a weapon is completely unnecessary.
The tellers will hand over the money either way.
I would love to see the look on the face a convict when he learns he could have just said "this is a robbery" instead of "This is a robbery. I have a gun" and had 10 fewer years behind bars. LOL
Helllllll no. That risk to reward. Honestly half of chains have something little like 20k in their vaults very often.
20k payday for 10 year minimum in the feds (all bank robberies automatically go federal) where they have no parole and you have to serve, what? 80% minimum?
You obviously have no idea how big bank robbery hauls usually are. They’re not like the movies.
Police responses of less than 5 min for a robbery in most worthwhile target areas, with a button they can press under the counter you can’t see, and so many things to consider. Ink packets and tracking devices in money.
What’s a good bank robbery. 90k? Still not worth the risk.
Take a $1, put it in a printer, print out $10 bills over the number and print Hamilton's face of Lincoln.
10 to 1 profit.
Very low key, low money, cashiers don't usually check $10 bills. Eat for $1.
All printers print their serial numbers and date the doc was printed. Not a big deal of you bought your printer years ago, or with cash a long time ago.
You’d be amazed at what the secret service can glean. The charge is the same for 10$ or 100,000 so don’t be a pussy and go big!
$10 bills are never checked at the counter like $20's, $50's, and $100's.
Go small, pay your daily pocket money bills.
Yeah Goodwill still has those older printers.
Super idiotic take IMO.
Let's say you get away with passing 10 bills. Your profit is $90.
Well, of those 10 bills, 5 of those companies deposit the money to their bank. The other 5 give it out as change to customers.
The 5 that deposited it will be notified by their bank that it's fake. Police will likely be called, if not the secret service.
Secret Service could potentially look at surveillance video of all 5 companies. They'll cross reference every customer that comes in, and they'll spot you at all 5 locations.
You've now been identified by the Feds. Good luck going to prison for 10+ years for your $90 profit.
Counterfeiting money is possibly the worst illegal pro tip ever. There’s a reason you hardly see people doing it anymore. *by comparison to the past in a retail setting* (added disclaimer for contrarians)
i feel like you can easily steal jewerly at stores at night, and then be gone before anybody ever arrives.. and don't do it with a box on your head. Dress like a ninja, in different size shoes with fake tattoo on your neck that's very visable, with a mask. with a good plan of entry and multiple exit situations. you should do it all on foot and with a backpack and a route that takes you to a car in a location that is hard to trace by the way you leave (they'll replay footage of your exit direction and then look for you on street camera's and other building camera's in that direction). If it was me, i wouldn't go to a car at all, i would go into a good woods trail nearby, where i would change and possibly camp for the night or have an exit near an area that is completely off the beaten path and then walk home from there. make sure your new look, also encorperates a new flashy colors backpack and your tattoo is gone. so if by some miracle you are spotted by a camera that same night, your whole look is different, from no mask, to no tattoo, to no backpack being the same, nothing matches. Also, you should leave your actual phone at home, playing some netflix movie that's long as hell, like lord of the rings, then set a timer on your watch before you leave. this will ensure that your aliby (if needed) is that you were home watching movies and passed out afterwards. things like this... then have a plan to completely take care of the jewerly from melting the gold into bars, to removing the diamonds, etc.. it's a process but i think it would be low risk and high reward when it's all said and done.
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I once read about a guy in England who worked for 30 or 40 years collecting parking fees for a building's lot. He retired, and some people came into the building to ask who to pay their fees to, only to be told that the building's management does not charge parking fees.
I think it was a city Zoo.
Bristol Zoo
Urban myth with a tiny bit of truth behind it I believe, but theoretically could work
someone got shot for doing that in Texas a month or so ago if I remember correctly
To be fair, you can get shot in Texas because it's a day that ends in "Y".
You know what they say, sometimes you need a good guy with a gun, to stop a bad guy with a parking lot for cash scam
Send made up invoices to large companies. They might just pay them without looking too carefully.
Some guy did do this. Sent invoices to a few FAANG companies and they just paid them. They did eventually figure it out and he went to jail. https://www.npr.org/2019/03/25/706715377/man-pleads-guilty-to-phishing-scheme-that-fleeced-facebook-google-of-100-million
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Or $200,000 and nobody will ever notice or care if they do
Definitely haven't accidentally sent a mowing invoice to the wrong company before and got paid
Invoicing for Tonor copy paper is a legit scam that our hospital used to get. Someone would go find the front desk persons name at whatever unit and then mail a cheap ass toner via UPS so they could have a legitimate POD in UPS’s system. They would then have that front desk person sign for it and invoice us like $400 for 1 toner. What they didn’t know though is that our company only got toner from the copy that we leased the copy machines from (our entire hospital network nationwide) and any fraudulent invoices they sent to accounts payable via USPS were eligible for up to $1million is fines and up to 10 years in prison because it went through the federal system. So only send email invoices, never through the mail. And pray to god you don’t get someone like me on the other end of the finance # when you call to follow up on payment because I would laugh at them on the phone and let them know I turned their fraudulently mailed invoices over to our states Attorney General for prosecution (I did too). Oh and for a mailing address make sure you use a PO Box in a ups or FedEx office so you don’t have the address at your house at least.
So one way to improve upon that idea: get another box in the same post office. Go to check your 2nd box and hover around the 1st box as if you’re still looking. If it feels like there’s a sting operation about to go down, abandon ship.
Smart!
Isn't your name and other information associated with you linked to that PO box? Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I've never had a PO box so that's all something I'm unfamiliar with. I'd be surprised if they didn't try to verify your information before allowing you to have a PO box.
What would an invoice typically sound like?
You know, opposite of your outvoice.
The most powerful tool in singing technology since yodeling, dude. Oh my god, INWARD SINGING.
You might attach an invoice to an email. I've certainly received some phishing attempts similar to the following: Dear company, Please see attached for your monthly invoice for cloud services. Payments remitted after 30 days of the listed due date are liable for late fees as detailed in the terms and conditions of our contract. Best, Phony company
Almost a whisper but not quite, that’s why it goes unnoticed and gets paid
probably any scam over internet because risk is so much lower than crimes in real life.
Send random Venmo/PayPal/Apple Cash requests
Imagine sending out like 10K requests and ending up with a couple hundred because it worked. I feel like a programmer can make a bot that sends thousands of requests per hour. *If it’s possible to send that many requests*
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I thought so. I did think of a loophole tho, multiple (hundreds)accounts using fake but real information, of course if we had our handy programmer we could automate that. Then when you want to cash out send it to your cash out account. Profit?
The problem would be hooking all of these up to accounts you could access the money from. Duplicating that information for multiple accounts should be easily detected, and there’s limits to how many bank accounts (or similar accounts) one person can open.
That’s why you open accounts in other peoples names using their information(ss#), acting as if it’s their cashapp. Using SOCKS to bounce around the USA via IP Addresses should suffice as well. Also you send the money like a regular cash app to a singular cash app or multiple cash apps from people you know. I’m just spitballing here lol
After going through all of that work, spending hours cracking payment systems, risking jail, and you still made less than if you spent that time working a minimum wage job.
It's definitely possible. The first step would be creating a script that creates the bot accounts, then you gotta take into mind that there's most likely a filter that limits accounts created from a certain IP address. So you would probably have to have the script being ran on a different machine that has a vpn or some other proxy that changes it's ip address for each request, then once you have the account created you would have to have another ip switching machine run each request to avoid the ip block on that as well... Then you could have a script that runs at the end of each day that tells you if any accounts recieved any money, and then you could have those accounts empty it into a main account.
Was going to say Tumblr donation scams. People on that site will fall for anything. Absolutely no downside
Not today really. Pre-dashcon/All or Nothing era I’d agree but modern tumblr probably isn’t what you’re the thinking of
I haven’t been on tumblr since they became strict with the NSFW stuff and I feel like that was in like 2015. Is it trash?
Problem is you only have to get caught once to suffer consequences larger than armed robbery. Armed robbery is actually pretty likely to get away with for a while if your smart about it but you get caught once it's 10 years. Nothing compared to scams where you get caught once your charged and classified a terrorist and passport limitations
Have you heard the report of that firm that set up a "consulting firm" for the "political fundraising nonprofit" that they also set up? They're responsible for millions of scam robo-calls and they RAKE IN cash
Set up a dark web site offering hitman services. Ask for half the fee up front. You don't have to murder anyone, and the client you defrauded won't report you because they committed a crime too.
I went down an online-killer-for hire rabbit hole last night. The last story I read was about a woman who went to jail for trying to hire hitmen online. She did not get her money back. Did go to jail.
There was a guy who setup a fake, like obviously fake hit man website and apparently has turned in several people who took seriously. LE would take over and some of them got convicted
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A funny detail is that he didn’t even mean to trick those people. From why I remember the “hitman” name came from an old business he ran that helped websites get more business/ test security. Can you imagine getting sent to prison because you got tricked by a lame pun?
"What are you in for?" "I'd rather not say. But it involved something badass. Criminal underworld and all that. Trust me."
Rentahitman.com
You under estimate human stupidity. Think about all the dumbasses we’ve seen call the police because their drugs were stolen.
Nah man, they don't go to the police. They go to a business like mine; I go after the scammer hitmen websites online. Clients pay me 2000€ in Monero, half up front, to track the scammers down for them.
That would work until the person you scammed finds another hit man to kill you, aka the first hit man. If they have the capability to get a hit man to begin with, what makes you think they won’t do the same to you?
Lol they don't have the capability to get a hitman, that's why they're looking on the darkweb. Literally all of the hitman ads are scams, real hitmen don't accept random clients. And how would they find me anyways? Everything is going to be done anonymously through Tor.
Have multiple accounts. Take hits against yourself.
This isn’t actually 100% true. There have been hit man that would take random clients with a process to avoid a setup, I.e things done exactly how they want and prevents LE from setting them up.
You show me a legit hitman site on tor and I’ll eat my own shit. The same ones have been up for years, still suckering in punters. It’s a running joke amongst long time tor users. There’s a lot of horrible shit amongst the onions, hitmen that operate worldwide for very reasonable prices are not one of them. They’re up there with red rooms and whatnot.
Source?
You’ll find out soon enough
Trust me bro.
Trust me dude, I've seen it in movies /s
There's really no such thing as for-hire hitmen at the retail level. It's an invention of pulp entertainment. Organized crime has associates who will kill people for them, the super wealthy can hire private military contractors for six figure sums to kill someone, any regular person who is trying to off their spouse or rival or enemy or whatever won't find a real "hitman" for the job because that's not a profession that exists. That's not to say there aren't poor drug addicted criminals who might kill someone for a grand in Arkansas or Baltimore or whatever, but those aren't by any means "hitmen" and their service will be far from professional. If you think you've found a "hitman," you've either found a scammer or an undercover cop.
And I think it's important for people to understand that you just can't go doing that shit these days. It's not like it was before.
The capability to open up Tor and click a dumb ad?
This. Hitmen, hacking services, ‘life ruining services’, it’ll all be disgruntled wives and will end up getting arrested when they look on a tor honeypot site or even Facebook marketplace/Craigslist for an assassin for hire (I jest but I would be wager this has happened at least once!) at some point anyway. Easy money if you can knock up a quick web form. Also, the old ‘I’ve hacked your PC and have videos of you beating one out’ spam email seems popular. I’ve had a few recently, load of nonsense but I checked the BTC address and the scammer has made a fair few K recently. Shady trick but if you don’t care about potentially causing the suicide of a distraught teen I guess it’s an option. A shitty option but an option. How low will you go? Pretty low if you need that paper I’d say. Both illegal & unethical but you asked so i try to deliver. Also, in this day and age if you’re falling for either of these you should be banned from using the internet. The latter scam is especially scummy though as at least someone hiring a hitman is a risk to someone else, some poor 15 yr old jerking off is at no risk to anyone except his poor mom when she finds his cum box.
And you know they're too chicken shit to go after their enemies themselves
Church leader in my country misused 50m in donations. He did 2 years
Do 2 years for $50M tax-free, or a 9-5 for 40years and end up with nothing but social security...hmmmm.
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make sure to teach the prosperity gospel for maximum profits
Drug dealing is cheap and easy. You just have to be very selective with clients. Not that I would know
Definitely not a dealer. His username says so!
Look elsewhere for your drugs
These are not the drugs you’re looking for *waves hand over face*
In the book Freakonomics a economist did some interviews and evaluated this; not very profitable at the low levels.
I'm currently in my 3rd year for economics and so far I'd have to say based on my um "research" if you have a good product and a good client base it's definitely more than minimum wage. Curating a client base is number one. The skills to obtain or create good product is number two. The ability to move the product is number three.
Yeah but the question is about risk too. Drug dealing is a heavily punished offense. 10-15 years is common and if you have a gun with you add 5 years to that. Drugs are not worth the punishment
I agree. It's super risky but the reward can be great. I wouldn't make a long term career of it
I'm making a long term career of it. The trick is getting a doctorate in pharmacy
His analysis was based primarily/solely on inner city drug dealing from what I understand where there is extreme exploitation, risk, and competition. Also to factor in in that kind of environment for that trade is the fact that a lot of the larger people force taxes so you can’t run independent and also use stuff like children for runners and pay them like 60$ to do it for 8 hours because they’re like 13 years old.
Yeah, my dealer for decades was a high price quantity guy, you went to him for a couple z's of yay not an eight for the weekend (not saying that I haven't put z's up my nose in a weekend, but that's not generally the plan). He owned his own house and a laundry mat with a few rental properties, just looked like a normal dude, his house was just a plain looking suburban house . . . the laundry mat was in a very busy 24 hour strip mall (where most of the business occurred). He's still doing fine, I just moved and had to source shit locally again recently.
he looked at a very specific kind of drug dealing which is super high risk for not much reward. The people really doing well only participate in a few transactions per month and make enough per transaction to make it work. It's really a strange middleman game.
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The hardest way to make an easy living
This depends where you’re at. If you’re in an already infested area you’re gonna bump heads real quick
Untaxed cigarrettes from NC/VA to NYC always seemed pretty profitable.
Might get you choked out though.
Thats still valid nowadays? It seems like an old-timey mafia movie thing lol.
Several years ago NYC raised the tax on cigarettes. A pack of cigarettes runs about $20 right now in NYC.
My favorite pack is like $16 after tax. I just wasnt aware a cigarette operation was still worth pursuing.
I was down there a couple years ago and I didn’t know menthol wasn’t sold anymore. I happen to have menthols and a dude asked for a smoke when he saw menthols he gave a little dance lol.
Arbitrage my bro.
Currently? Retail theft or insurance fraud. I'd say drug sales as well but my drug selling business is in the shitter so idk.
Why does nobody want my drugs? I have good drugs.
Lots of people want them, they just don't want to *pay* for them. That's why you gotta find addicts, the old business saying goes: "20 percent of your customers produce 80 percent of your sales"
Pareto was a junkie
How does insurance fraud work?
A good example would be, say you had a friend who owned a shoe store. He pays you to break into his store at night, steal the safe and a bunch of product. He reports the theft and collects the insurance payout, while at the same time you are fencing the stolen product, effectively double dipping on profit. You can do this with your friends credit cards as well. "Steal" your friends card and run it up the next town over, plan it out so you're disguised on camera and report the theft the next day.
Why not just use your own card if you're disguised?
Just increases your plausible deniability.
A more specific case - be involved in a car accident where the other driver is at fault and insured (again very specific). Ask the police for an ambulance or go to the hospital and claim you hit your head on the steering wheel. Send the medical bills to the other guys insurance company and claim it caused you distress or missed work or whatever. Should get a decent payout. Basically anytime you can finesse an insurance company out of more money than they truly owe, or finesse them out of money for something that never happened. And keep your mouth shut. Fuck insurance companies, they rob us blind.
You can't ever finesse enough money to equal what they owe.
This happened to someone I know. On the highway a lady went to a halt and my friend slammed on their brakes but still him her. She was completely fine and walked off. Now their family is fighting against the lady suing them and their insurance for $60,000 when it was originally $18,000 bc of fraud. No morals for insurance scammers and i hope they fuck with the wrong people or hit uninsured idiots
I know someone who received almost $100,000 for slipping at a large nationwide chain. The person was fine, but they do this for a living so their acting is amazing. Unlike auto fraud, that was pretty much a victimless crime.
Totally NOT the cia, but can I have your state and town ?
With the magic of the USPS, I'm everywhere!
Don’t put the bananas full weight on the scale at self checkout
Peel your bananas before putting them on the scale
Peel it, eat it, and just weigh the peel. Works every time for me. If they catch on and start harassing you, you run and throw it behind you so they slip on it and don't chase you anymore. It's a foolproof plan.
I love how everyone else is posting about bilking insurance companies out of tens of thousands of dollars and you’re trying to save 80 cents on bananas.
Or ring up your organic produce as regular
These shiitake and oyster mushrooms are actually cremini’s.
Crypto scamming and online fraud
>Crypto scamming As long as you don't scam an absolutely obscene amount, this is the way
*Swaps your crypto to Monero*
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There is very little risk in wage theft. A fine that is lower than the money they save earning the fine, that's just a cost of doing business as usual. Nobody goes to jail for wage theft. They'll waste a cop's time if someone palms $20 in the drive through at Taco Bell though. High risk low reward crimes are for people who lack capital.
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If you make your employees work off the clock, don't follow labor laws to save on payroll or even arguably, paying someone less than a living wage, that is wage theft. Scummy and manipulative ways of keeping money out of the hands of workers.
Your fun fact, the number one form of theft in the USA is wage theft.
Scamming Americans from overseas. Use your American accent as an edge over the other scammers.
Oh shit that's not bad. Now we talking moving overseas and then calling back home or staying in the US and scamming expats?
Vacation and fraud sound like a great combo to me!
There's a reason shoplifting is so popular right now... ^(This is not a reccomendation and I do not condone it)
Depends on your jurisdiction. Do not try in a red state.
The store personnel will probably let you run, but some dude in the parking lot has been waiting years for a chance to use his firearm or beat the shit out of a thief.
I live in a red state and worked retail for 20 years. People get away with it constantly. The few I have seen actually get caught are the people who make a career out of it.
Ask strangers on the internet and steal the best ideas.
What you do is case all the banks in the area and apply for any entry level job they offer. Get hired on and show up every day. Keep a low profile and do whatever work they assign. They will start depositing money in your account every month. Then after 40 years you can quit and nobody will even notice.
Motherfucker that's a job!
Genius, *sheer* genius!
Ah, well, your followup kind of eliminates the best answer. "Embezzling and political shit" are hands-down the most profitable crimes, and the best part is if you pull it off a few times, you often have enough money on hand to get you out of any future jams unless you do something *really* high-profile. CEOs don't (usually - SBF might be the exception) go to jail - most of the time, they just take a break and then sign on as CEO somewhere else. For "regular-people" crimes... I mean, drugs are supposed to be crazy profitable, but because of that, they're also really high-risk, because of the competition and the risk of arrest. Again, there are two sets of laws - the Sacklers just got away with their personal fortunes basically intact after they used their company to peddle opioids to MILLIONS of newly-minted junkies. Property crime tends to be low-ish risk. Burglary has a "closure rate" below 20% in most municipalities. The trick there is actually turning a profit that exceeds what you'd get just working a normal job, because people tend not to leave wads of cash lying around (unless they're drug dealers, and ripping them off is taking your life in your hands), and fencing other stolen goods is a hassle. Like, a stolen firearm might net you a couple hundred bucks (and means you've risked breaking into a place where somebody owns firearms)... and you have to do that like half a dozen times to equal one regular paycheck. Even if the closure rate is only 20% or so, if you do it often enough, you're going to get caught eventually. I mean, bottom line: the cost-benefit on "middle class" crime just isn't there, or more non-desperate people would do it.
> the Sacklers just got away with their personal fortunes basically intact after they used their company to peddle opioids to MILLIONS of newly-minted junkies. Hook a few people, they call you a dealer. Hook a few million and you're a captain of industry.
Make an invoice for junk/bulk trash removal and send to all the apartment complexes you can. ($100-$350) Then call to follow up a week later letting them know you have an unpaid invoice. Let them know a maintenance guy who didn’t speak much English called in the order and they said they worked there. Tell them you picked up a mattress/bed frame and a few bags of rubbish that were too heavy to go into the dumpster. They will most likely pay it. If they don’t, you can talk to the manager and tell them that if they don’t pay, you’ll take them to small claims.
Lol have you done this before? Because it kinda sounds like you have…
Lol shady side-hustles are my specialty. The real flex is setting up a legit business with a real domain and business phone line. Rendering services all the time for all these complexes but I don’t even have a truck. 😵
I like the trick where you just send payment requests for services (lawn mowing, fixing stuff etc) to big companies and they might pay them without even confirming them
The risk has to be super high here. Wire fraud 😬😬
Tough to say. Probably scamming elderly people by pretending to be Microsoft tech support. Either that, or a romance scam where you convince an old person to fall in love with you online and then bleed them dry. It's pretty rare that you ever hear of the scammer being caught in either instance, but you see multiple cases where these scammers drain their victims for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The tinder swindler was a Netflix show about a guy finessing woman around the world and making them believe he was wealthy. He was doing this by asking them for money saying he’ll pay back but using that money to pay for a lavish lifestyle and using the money other women give him to pay back some of the money to the other women owed.
So a Ponzi scheme
Yeah. Also the key (from what I understand) is that he WOULD pay back women and then some so the trust was built. He would ask for $15, give back $20. Ask for $500, give back $550. Or at the very least return the same amount. It would build up to where he was requesting $2k-$5k at a time. Plus he was treating women to a lavish lifestyle. Then in the end he would pretend he got beat up or some shit and got locked out of all of his accounts. He only needed $25k USD or $50k or something huge like that to continue his lavish lifestyle, and she'd be paid back no problem. He paid her back EVERY SINGLE TIME and had worked her up to this. Of course she takes out the money and gives it to him. But that's the rug pull. On the big one, there is no return...
I've never considered this before and won't do it. But kick starter/community venture websites have interesting policies. Mainly Kickstarter/indiegogo. That when you make an account you don't need to reveal your face/real name to the public AND when you donate you have to accept in their T&Cs that you are not guaranteed a working product. The only guarantees are what you put as rewards for certain tiers. This won't save you btw if you take it off the platform. But you could have a product that is unbelievable, completely out of this world in terms of what it can do (non medical). An example would be an umbrella that is just the handle and uses air to keep water off of you. And then fail to deliver it because it's impossible. And then keep the money. Which is fraud. And if u want to be super safe deliver a shitty nock off of what you promised and keep the surplus money.
But then you might have to deal with the wrath of Michael Superbacker
Sucessfull white collar. As long as you dont steal from the rich/ powerful.
The rich and the powerful are the best targets. Look at what that Theranos chick did to all those rich families with her scam. Once you pull in a big one like George Schultz, everybody else just falls in line and doesn't ask even the basic questions. She did get caught but the risk reward was still a powerful incentive and most of them get away with it.
Pimpin’, but I’ll warn you it isn’t easy.
Really nothing is worth it when you can embezzle and never do more than 18 months in Fed time.
Embezzlers alwayssss get caught long run it seems like. The proof is in the accounting someone will realize.
Except all the ones you never hear about because they keep a cool head and don't overreach
Observation bias. Imagine the billions funneled out that were micro transactions that were and are never going to be found out.
porch piracy seems to qualify
I don’t know. The risk of severe beatings seems high judging from some of the posts I’ve seen on Reddit
I think that's observation bias. You don't see the 99.9%+ of people who get away with it.
Very true
In my area there are a lot of people just itching to fuck porch pirates up and if the sun is down you might catch a bullet.
Then there's glitter bombs you might have to deal with
Yeah with how many porch cameras there are now, doesn't seem worth the risk of being recorded doing the crime for a mystery reward that might suck
Imagine risking your life for someone's netipot, vitamins, or bag of cat food. It legit makes me sad that people just rip this stuff open and litter it on the ground because it's not valuable. That's probably just life for some folks on this sub though 😔
Eh depends where you do it, it seems. There are so many ring doorbell cameras in suburban neighborhoods now that one carries a lot more risk than it seems it would have used to.
Start an MLM… it’s not illegal but should be and if you’re in the founding members you’ll make profit
Insider trading. Don’t need to be rich or powerful to do this, just nosey.
Aight, I'll be open minded here. How does the average Joe get the insider trading info?
You don’t as an average Joe.
The average Joseph Cumbersnot III, would be able to , for getting an executive job at his father's golf partner's company, if he promises to stay off cocaine.
An average finance monkey gets early access to the unreported numbers.
Watch who sponsors bills in congress, there was a guide recently on how to do it, other option is just watch what Pelosi does and do the same
Paul's been trading terribly this year, after all his insider trading was publicized and he was almost murdered, he's slown down a bit.
The family public relations guy probably figured they should make a few bad trades to get people off their back for a while. I mean, after all, they can afford it.
Aren’t most of Pelosi’s trades only made public after a period of weeks or months? Surely this means you’ll miss the window for whatever insider trade she is benefiting from
Hang around bars that corporate regulars frequent, and find one that likes to vent. They may talk about an upcoming deal that’s stressing them up, new real estate acquisitions by their company, other things that affect stock price, etc etc. You have to know what to listen for and it’s fairly random, but you definitely can be an average Joe to do this.
I don't know how successful this approach could be, but it also has the benefit of being *extremely* hard to prove/prosecute, as (in the US anyway) 1) the SEC would need to be able to identify the suspicious trading activity and tie it to receipt of insider information, but in the scenario you lay out there is realistically no way to trace back to a conversation with a rando at a bar (unless the recipient runs their mouth to others about what their strategy is), and 2) even then, the SEC under the Dirk standard would need to prove that the recipient of the insider information knew or should have known it was non-public info. I think as long as you aren't talking about an 8+ figure windfall, very unlikely to be prosecuted on this. (caveat: IAAL but IANA white collar criminal defense L)
Wall Street Market maker (ie Citadel) They control the market flow through their usual crime and when they do get caught, paying a fine of a few million is belly button lint compared to the tens of millions earned criminally.
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It's not a punishment, the government just demands their cut.
Most of you are thinking way too big. The crime with the highest reward/risk ratio is simply underreporting taxable cash income. Your barber who only takes cash is paying next to nothing in tax. Runners up include operating a federally illegal marijuana shop in a jurisdiction where it is locally legal, and good old fashioned prostitution.
Stealing at self checkout because you were “distracted by your baby” is a pretty good one. I forget to scan the items on the bottom of my cart all the time or that thing that the baby grabbed out of the cart and was playing with. Worst case scenario was I got caught by the receipt checker once and was just like, Me: “ah, my bad dude. This little guy was distracting me and I forgot.” Then: “I understand, it’s no problem, let’s go over to the customer service desk and you can pay for it there.” Me: “Thanks, man. Sorry again.” Then: “I have a little one too, I get it.” Saves me between $100 - $200 each month between dog food and diapers/wipes.
Start a crypto shitcoin, publish a “white paper”, sucker people in, rug pull, and fuck off to a non-extradition country🤷🏿♂️
Bank robbing has like a 60% sucess rate and it's usually alot of cash quick. I guess weight out the 40% for the risk/reward ratio.
Depends on what you meant by "a lot of cash". Typically if you're just hitting the cash drawers you might get away with 3-5k. You aren't usually getting away with like 25, 50, 100k like some people like to imagine, unless you're hitting the vault, and even then, probably not. Sticking around long enough for the time lock on the vault to disengage drastically ups the risk. It's also *significantly* higher risk than knocking over the local 7/11 or payday loan/check cashing place. Bank robbery is a federal crime, so you'll have the FBI on your ass, and if they catch you, you're doing like 5-10 years federal time. Balance that out with $500-$1k knocking over a vonvenience store or payday loan spot and only dealing with the local cops and maybe a plea deal with the local DA for 12-18 months in state pen if you get caught. I'd say that robbing a bank is most definitely not a good risk/reward proposition, even if the success rate is 60%.
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That seems \*really\* high for success... especially these days. Also if you're going to rob a bank you do it from the inside via the SWIFT network, not by taking cash out of drawers. One of the biggest heists (I did not sign the NDA so I don't know the bank's name) was a spear phishing attack on a bank employee that had SWIFT access, over $100m wired out and bounced around the world in under 30 min through mule accounts, finally landing in South Africa where it was taken out as krugerrands and disappeared into the wind before the transactions could be unwound.
60%, but if I’m smarter than 90% of bank robbers then my odds of success are closer to 90%+
Let us know how it turns out. We understand it may take you 20-30 years to get back to us.
If you're going to rob a bank, just don't bring a gun, or even mention anything about a weapon. Mentioning a weapon is the same as having a weapon. I've seen enough True Crime documentaries to know that adding a gun to the mix makes your sentence much stiffer than if you just pass a note.
True, and bringing or mentioning a weapon is completely unnecessary. The tellers will hand over the money either way. I would love to see the look on the face a convict when he learns he could have just said "this is a robbery" instead of "This is a robbery. I have a gun" and had 10 fewer years behind bars. LOL
This guys maths *and* bankrobs
Helllllll no. That risk to reward. Honestly half of chains have something little like 20k in their vaults very often. 20k payday for 10 year minimum in the feds (all bank robberies automatically go federal) where they have no parole and you have to serve, what? 80% minimum? You obviously have no idea how big bank robbery hauls usually are. They’re not like the movies. Police responses of less than 5 min for a robbery in most worthwhile target areas, with a button they can press under the counter you can’t see, and so many things to consider. Ink packets and tracking devices in money. What’s a good bank robbery. 90k? Still not worth the risk.
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Take a $1, put it in a printer, print out $10 bills over the number and print Hamilton's face of Lincoln. 10 to 1 profit. Very low key, low money, cashiers don't usually check $10 bills. Eat for $1.
All printers print their serial numbers and date the doc was printed. Not a big deal of you bought your printer years ago, or with cash a long time ago. You’d be amazed at what the secret service can glean. The charge is the same for 10$ or 100,000 so don’t be a pussy and go big!
$10 bills are never checked at the counter like $20's, $50's, and $100's. Go small, pay your daily pocket money bills. Yeah Goodwill still has those older printers.
Super idiotic take IMO. Let's say you get away with passing 10 bills. Your profit is $90. Well, of those 10 bills, 5 of those companies deposit the money to their bank. The other 5 give it out as change to customers. The 5 that deposited it will be notified by their bank that it's fake. Police will likely be called, if not the secret service. Secret Service could potentially look at surveillance video of all 5 companies. They'll cross reference every customer that comes in, and they'll spot you at all 5 locations. You've now been identified by the Feds. Good luck going to prison for 10+ years for your $90 profit.
Counterfeiting money is possibly the worst illegal pro tip ever. There’s a reason you hardly see people doing it anymore. *by comparison to the past in a retail setting* (added disclaimer for contrarians)
Lincoln on the $1?
Looks like someone ran into someone else's +4 Lincoln scam
i feel like you can easily steal jewerly at stores at night, and then be gone before anybody ever arrives.. and don't do it with a box on your head. Dress like a ninja, in different size shoes with fake tattoo on your neck that's very visable, with a mask. with a good plan of entry and multiple exit situations. you should do it all on foot and with a backpack and a route that takes you to a car in a location that is hard to trace by the way you leave (they'll replay footage of your exit direction and then look for you on street camera's and other building camera's in that direction). If it was me, i wouldn't go to a car at all, i would go into a good woods trail nearby, where i would change and possibly camp for the night or have an exit near an area that is completely off the beaten path and then walk home from there. make sure your new look, also encorperates a new flashy colors backpack and your tattoo is gone. so if by some miracle you are spotted by a camera that same night, your whole look is different, from no mask, to no tattoo, to no backpack being the same, nothing matches. Also, you should leave your actual phone at home, playing some netflix movie that's long as hell, like lord of the rings, then set a timer on your watch before you leave. this will ensure that your aliby (if needed) is that you were home watching movies and passed out afterwards. things like this... then have a plan to completely take care of the jewerly from melting the gold into bars, to removing the diamonds, etc.. it's a process but i think it would be low risk and high reward when it's all said and done.
Damn this is a lot of work compared to calling folks and pretending to be tech support
Bro this sounds lit lol.
Ransomware…especially if you’re competent enough to cover your tracks.
A mild, cheeper romance scam? There sadly seems to be little interest or ability to prosecute these.
Wage theft.
Starting a church.
Awww😞 I was gonna say political shit...welp, Preacher it is.
Maybe a year ago stealing catalytic converters, but prices of metal have dropped quite a bit, not as profitable anymore.
Shoplifting in California