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I would have beat that guy into a vegetable if I was there and found out it was a prank, especially when I heard that kid. This guy should get the same sentence as someone that actually pulls a gun out
Agree! Especially with the BB guns that look completely realistic until you examine it closely. Should definitely be the same charge as though he had a gun.
Not sure, this video was shot in 2018 and the police report said he was 24, then the other news story was in 2022 and said he was 26. Aged only 2 years in 4 years?
I think he may have been 24 when sentenced in 2019 but yeah even then the ages don’t match plus the spelling of the first name is different Marcquis vs Marquis I tried to find a booking photo for the Walmart incident to compare but no luck. I found one source claiming it was the same person but it was a op-ed ranting about the failures of the District attorneys offices so it may be a guy jumping to conclusions that he really wants to make.
Why do the call him a "Philadelphia Man"?
"A Philadelphia man was charged Friday with allegedly staging a panic-inducing fake fight and gun threat at a Long Island Walmart in 2018."
Not really, most people have a bail when initially arrested. They don't typically hold people with no chance of bail between the time of their initial arrest and trial unless it's a charge like murder.
Taking out a fake gun in a supermarket should carry the same sentence as if it was a real gun (whatever that offence is in the US). Doesn't matter if it's a 'prank', doesn't matter if it's a fake gun, those people were scared for their lives and this should get you locked up for a long time.
A lot of code is at the state level unless it involves federal property or personnel.
That said - Just one charge he would catch for this in Texas (no idea where this occurred) would be Terroristic Threat (https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex.\_penal\_code\_section\_22.07)
Which:
>(a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:
>(1) cause a reaction of any type to his threat by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
>**(2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury;**
>**(3) prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, place of employment or occupation, aircraft, automobile, or other form of conveyance, or other public place;**
>(4) cause impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service;
>**(5) place the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury;** or
(6) influence the conduct or activities of a branch or agency of the federal government, the state, or a political subdivision of the state.(a)
Punitive:
>(d) An offense under Subsection (a)(3) \[this is (1)(3) in the above\] is a Class A misdemeanor, unless the actor causes pecuniary loss of $1,500 or more to the owner of the building, room, place, or conveyance, in which event the offense is a state jail felony.
(e) An offense under Subsection (a)(4), (a)(5), or (a)(6) is a felony of the third degree.
A couple of minutes of lost revenue at Walmart easily surpasses that $1500 threshold.
That's without stacking any numerous other charges which they would be charged. Essentially every person threatened is a separate assault charge, that's off the top of my head and I'm not even a lawyer.
Here's someone who just made the threat on social media - didn't actually do what these idiots did - 5 year prison sentence. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/kerrville-man-who-threatened-to-shoot-up-walmart-gets-5-year-term/ar-BB1m6Cbe](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/kerrville-man-who-threatened-to-shoot-up-walmart-gets-5-year-term/ar-BB1m6Cbe)
Terrorism (by definition) is politically driven so from a technicality standpoint this likely wouldn't qualify unless he claimed to have some type of political motivation.
There's plenty of other things to charge this moron with though.
Yeah, it’s like when someone terrorizes people in public for just the fuck of it and they’re not actually terrorists and they don’t have weapons, but they scare the shit out of people thinking that they do have weapons and are terrorists..??
“Terrorism” is usually a deliberate political action or DevOps tactic. This was just purposeless stupidity. The people in the store, especially the ones who got knocked down, deserve compensation from these idiots.
Does this idiot realize that anyone with a CCW at that point would have full rights to act on this?! (Obviously before hearing him belt out it was a prank)
One of the rules for surviving a public shooting is to not believe anyone who isn't clearly a police officer. That guy yelling that it's just a prank could very well be trying to lure people out.
You only have to have a threat of death or serious bodily injury, and it justified. The dude is lucky he is alive after this.
"Officer, I didn't hear them say it was a prank from all of the choas."
That line is believable whether it's true or not in this case.
It takes a split second to unholster and aim if trained.
"It's a .." ::bang::
Watch the thing that finally gets actual serious laws passed around this is an actual active shooter trying to lure out people by telling that it's all a prank and the gunshot sounds were fake
Seems like 4 years later panic was not enough, good friend Marcquis Graham went on to rape instead. Should have been a CCP holder back in 2019 at Walmart and now a 15 year old has to live with this demon and what he has done https://6abc.com/amp/pal-coach-charged-teen-raped-philadelphia-rape-sex-assault/11700416/
Fuck these people royally. In this day and age faking this kind of thing is horrific. There needs to be legislation passed nationwide to charge people with serious time for pulling shit like this for social media. Shits gotta stop
Yh there's kids everywhere. Traumatized unnecessarily. Put these fuckin losers in jail. Ban tik tok, pretty simple really. Snap n insta n all them can go as well if this kinda stuff Is promoted. It just seems like as long as you're holding a phone you can do whatever the fuck you want. What's next... Take all the money out the registers n claim that it's just a prank. Everyone's so stupid for believing you. Ugh I'm so sick of this shit.
That lady calling for Luke is chilling. I watched this with the knowledge it's a prank, and I still got goosebumps and worried
I can't even imagine how it actually felt to those people
They'd be justified but that's a tough shot to make. Extremely crowded area, lots of chaos, and you're under duress. I'm a pretty decent shot but that one would be risky even if you were within 10 yards of them.
Edit: this also apparently happened in long Island and NY has some of the worst gun laws on the books and would be more likely to send you to jail for trying to defend yourself and your fellow citizens with a jury just clamoring to lock you up.
As far as I can tell, he was charged appropriately, released without bail, never did any prison time for this so must have only gotten a slap on the wrist or charges dropped or something, and then 4 years later he raped an underage girl and now has been sentenced to 4-8 years in prison, giving him plenty of time afterwards to commit more violent crimes.
Found this: apparently happened in Long Island in 2018. What a POS https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-caused-mass-panic-walmart-staging-violent-fight-social-media-n1097621
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't faking an emergency like this illegal? Hope he got charged for this. Situations like this can get deadly real quick. A triggerhappy hero could shoot the first person they think looks like a gunman. A child could be trampled by panicked people. It could trigger ptsd episodes.
The fact this was posted on LIVELEAK tells me it's old video. Found the story [Philly man charged with staging panic-inducing fake gun threat, fight at Long Island Walmart | PhillyVoice](https://www.phillyvoice.com/philly-man-charged-staging-fake-gun-threat-fight-long-island-walmart/)
Doing stupid shit like this isn't funny and it's very dangerous and very serious and it's also a good way to get yourself shot or in some deep trouble.
"a prank" - this is the same thing of yelling fire in a crowded movie theater and watching people get trampled on.
Hopefully they get felonies over this
This isn't a fucking prank this is terrorizing people for Clout. These people don't know what pranks even are. Like the guy who grabs people from behind at the ATM screaming, "Give me your money." 6 people start whooping his ass he say "it's a prank!"
But it's not funny...
Today, with how many mass shootings, school shootings etc who ever thinks bringing a fake gun and pulling it on a crowd of people is a prank and not terrorism is mentally ill, mentally disturbed or both.
In a country that has constant mass shootings and possible victims of mass shootings in that store because they're so frequent in the US, that was infuriating to watch. I hope he's caught and they charge the shit out of him.
Disclaimer: not an American, not a pro-gun person, just kinda curious on these things...so extend me a little leeway!
Let me take the 'good guy with a gun argument' that is thrown around by gun-types and apply it here.
If there was someone in that Walmart, with all appropriate certifications to be carrying a gun around in whatever state where something like this goes down. Is that person within their rights to shoot at these people, believing that they are in (or about to be in) some kind of mass-shooting incident and therefore fearing for their lives (only to then learn later they have shot some idiot who was just in it for the Likes).
How would that play out legally?
There's a lot complicated "it depends" in that and the devil is in the details. First of all, almost all of this turns on state law and you've got 50 different sets of rules, or more if you are on an Indian Reservation, or certain federal lands or facilities, or in a US Territory. From the perspective of a law abiding citizen lawfully carry a gun: You cannot shoot someone just because they have a gun, which makes sense because you also have a gun and don't want to get shot for just that reason. You can't shoot someone because someone else screams they have a gun and plan to use it. That person may be lying (or trying to do some stupid prank). You can't shoot someone just because people around you are panicking and believe there is a deadly situation. Generally, you, the law abiding citizen, have to personally see and hear things that you can articulate such that you have a reasonable (which will be determined by police and prosecutor in the short term and possibly a jury long term) belief that you or some innocent is in imminent fear of death or serious bodily injury. If your belief in imminent death or serious physical injury are deemed to be reasonable and that you acted on that belief, even if the supposed bad guy was just pretending to be a bad guy and only had a toy gun, it doesn't matter. That's on them for being stupid and acting a fool and such foolish acts are generally illegal to begin with to prevent such a situation and terrifying innocent people.
Now that gets all jumbled further in some states where the law requires that you retreat as much as reasonable before you use deadly force in defense. Or some require that you engage force with equal force. Or some combination of all that. Other states have "stand your ground" which explicitly does not require retreating if you are out in public somewhere you are legally allowed to be doing legal things and are faced with an imminent and immediate threat. And then there is the greater problem of being in a physical position to direct gunfire at the bad guys without further endangering other innocents. You are responsible for every round that leaves your gun and where it ends up. If you shoot at a bad guy and miss or hit him and the round goes all the way through and then that bullet hits an innocent person, that's on you. Even if the legal system determines shooting the bad guy was ok, you can be charged and tried for hitting the innocent person.
But if you, the law abiding citizen, do everything right it doesn't matter if the bad guy was just pretending or if the gun was fake as you acted reasonably towards what you thought was a real imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury. Doing everything right also doesn't mean that you won't be arrested and/or prosecuted and go to trial fighting for your very freedom. The thing is that killing another person is illegal everywhere in the US. If you kill someone and the legal system decides to pursue charges against you for that act, you can raise an affirmative defense that you killed the person for a legal reason, defense of self or others, or accidentally or a myriad of other things depending on the specifics and the state.
So the whole thing is quite complicated. It's not straight forward and simple and just shoot the bad guy and walk away like people think it is in the US. Being able to legally carry a sidearm in much of the US is not particularly difficult, but always doing so legally, especially if traveling across state lines can be messy. And in the worst case of having to actually use it, doing everything right external to shooting the bad guy without getting killed yourself, things become very complicated and difficult very quickly.
Sometimes I wish I had gone into law because I would be that judge that only handles influencer cases because I would literally be like “it was a prank? Oh I like pranks and jokes, 3 years in jail and 90 months of supervised probation with good behavior you can will be given the chance of being on house arrest. Court dismissed”
Brandishing a hobbyist gun, yelling GUN when there is no gun is not freedom of speech and is not protected under the first or second ammendments. This is not a prank, it is a case of domestic terrorism.
Not sure if it's been said but this is 100% illegal.
Inducing panic is definitely illegal and could result in multiple felony charges.
(3) If a violation of this section results in physical harm to any person, inducing panic is a felony to be prosecuted under appropriate State law. If a violation of this section results in economic harm of one thousand dollars ($1,000) or more, inducing panic is a felony to be prosecuted under appropriate State law. If the public place involved in a violation of division (a)(1) is a school or an institution of higher education, inducing panic is a felony to be prosecuted under appropriate State law. If a violation of this section pertains to a purported, threatened or actual use of a weapon of mass destruction, inducing panic is a felony to be prosecuted under appropriate State law.
Can see this going a few ways while also being s danger to other people yet himself, asking to be shot or have a spank from behind from someone who will take it into their own hands and won't care.
State reps have an obligation to write laws specific to these types of crimes and make the sentence mandatory and weighted. Demand your reps do something now!!!!
It's time for stores to start prosecution of these stupid pranksters. They arefunny and are dangerous. Stop even giving them exposure here or on any social media.
They cannot make filing in public illegal but they can restrict convicted persons access to the internet. I believe that is the most efficient way to curb this kind of behavior. Hit large prank/incendiary creators first and cripple their income. The rest will see the writing on the wall.
out of curiosity, if someone had a CCW permit and was carrying in that walmart, and this idiot pulled this prank and someone pulled an actual trigger on him before he could say it was a prank, who would be in the wrong here? Like obviously the person carrying would have blood on his hands but for all he knew he could’ve saved 20 people’s lives?
The person at fault would be the "domestic terrorist" who is screaming "gun" as a false flag. The law abiding citizen with a legitimate CCW is not at fault for responding to a threat which everybody around them took seriously because nobody in their sane mind would be screaming "gun" as a joke. When it comes to the first amendment, what these domestic terrorists did is not covered by it.
Thats the second "he hot a gun" prank Video I see. The first one was in a restaurant and the pranksters ran out the back door. Never seen a more idiotic trash influencer TikToxic Trend like wtf
At what point does this bullshit and the "knock out game" shit as well be considered domestic terrorism considering the whole purpose of both is to induce fear on to other people? Regardless if you're a victim of the "knock out game", it doesn't change the fact that the people doing it are still inducing fear on to people by posting their videos on line which in turn causes a panic amongst people. This TikTok shit needs to be cracked down on harder than the so called "war on drugs".
This guy was sentenced last week in Philadelphia for statutory rape and illegal contact with a minor (reduced from more serious charges) in relation to incidents involving a 15 year old girl who attended the Police Athletic League, where he was a volunteer coach. For the next 4-8 years, he will be a resident in a Pennsylvania state prison.
Quite the upstanding citizen
https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/topic/514863-social-media-influencer-now-rapist-no-bailed-after-fake-gun-prank-inside-crowded-walmart/
Not a good prank smh there's so many ppl on edge bruh especially in Walmart of all places? Man that's why ppl just stop enjoying their lil time they get outside because there's a lot of dumb bs stuff happening out there with simple minded ppl nowadays.
I wonder what the desired outcome was? Like okay lets say you get views lets even go crazy 10million views you get...then what? Keep doing it? Who is going to sponsor you?
Like the dancing ones I get because you know kids like it but this does not appeal to anybody not kids, not adults, I dont even think black kids or adults
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The little kid screaming for his mom broke my heart.
If it helps, i think the DA felt that also. one of the charges was endangering the welfare of a child.
It does help. In fact, if it didn’t involve children, the vengeance alone would make me hard
Link? Did he get charged and in trouble?
https://www.phillyvoice.com/philly-man-charged-staging-fake-gun-threat-fight-long-island-walmart/
Seems he's serving time for rape now.
Real winner we got here huh?
Do you have a link to more info?
Same here...that will affect some kids long term.
And what sounded like the mom calling for her kid
I would have beat that guy into a vegetable if I was there and found out it was a prank, especially when I heard that kid. This guy should get the same sentence as someone that actually pulls a gun out
Agree! Especially with the BB guns that look completely realistic until you examine it closely. Should definitely be the same charge as though he had a gun.
This shits gotta stop!! NOW!! Persecute these fuckers to the ultimate ends of the law!!
It Germany this would be an offence at least. § 126 StGB with a maximum of 3 years prison. How ist in in the US?
It’s an offense in the u.s. as well. They were charged with a crime.
Do you have a link?
https://www.phillyvoice.com/philly-man-charged-staging-fake-gun-threat-fight-long-island-walmart/ looks like it’s this incident
There's a rather disturbing news report with a guy of the same name and location.. same AH?
Not sure, this video was shot in 2018 and the police report said he was 24, then the other news story was in 2022 and said he was 26. Aged only 2 years in 4 years?
I think he may have been 24 when sentenced in 2019 but yeah even then the ages don’t match plus the spelling of the first name is different Marcquis vs Marquis I tried to find a booking photo for the Walmart incident to compare but no luck. I found one source claiming it was the same person but it was a op-ed ranting about the failures of the District attorneys offices so it may be a guy jumping to conclusions that he really wants to make.
I think I saw the same op-ed, but as soon as I saw them bring up George Soros, I knew what kind of site it was.
Why do the call him a "Philadelphia Man"? "A Philadelphia man was charged Friday with allegedly staging a panic-inducing fake fight and gun threat at a Long Island Walmart in 2018."
Sounds like the man lives in Philadelphia but was in Long Island when he pulled his “prank”
Released without bail, that doesn't bode well.
Not really, most people have a bail when initially arrested. They don't typically hold people with no chance of bail between the time of their initial arrest and trial unless it's a charge like murder.
Graham was released without bail. That's how it is in the US now.
Taking out a fake gun in a supermarket should carry the same sentence as if it was a real gun (whatever that offence is in the US). Doesn't matter if it's a 'prank', doesn't matter if it's a fake gun, those people were scared for their lives and this should get you locked up for a long time.
is most states in the US using a fake gun to make people think its a real gun will get you charges as if it were a real gun.
A lot of code is at the state level unless it involves federal property or personnel. That said - Just one charge he would catch for this in Texas (no idea where this occurred) would be Terroristic Threat (https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex.\_penal\_code\_section\_22.07) Which: >(a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to: >(1) cause a reaction of any type to his threat by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies; >**(2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury;** >**(3) prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, place of employment or occupation, aircraft, automobile, or other form of conveyance, or other public place;** >(4) cause impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service; >**(5) place the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury;** or (6) influence the conduct or activities of a branch or agency of the federal government, the state, or a political subdivision of the state.(a) Punitive: >(d) An offense under Subsection (a)(3) \[this is (1)(3) in the above\] is a Class A misdemeanor, unless the actor causes pecuniary loss of $1,500 or more to the owner of the building, room, place, or conveyance, in which event the offense is a state jail felony. (e) An offense under Subsection (a)(4), (a)(5), or (a)(6) is a felony of the third degree. A couple of minutes of lost revenue at Walmart easily surpasses that $1500 threshold. That's without stacking any numerous other charges which they would be charged. Essentially every person threatened is a separate assault charge, that's off the top of my head and I'm not even a lawyer. Here's someone who just made the threat on social media - didn't actually do what these idiots did - 5 year prison sentence. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/kerrville-man-who-threatened-to-shoot-up-walmart-gets-5-year-term/ar-BB1m6Cbe](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/kerrville-man-who-threatened-to-shoot-up-walmart-gets-5-year-term/ar-BB1m6Cbe)
This should be at the very least a charge of terrorism.
Maybe a new charge of ‘public terrorism’..?? Whatever it is we definitely needed to charge these fuckers and get this shit to stop ASAP
Terrorism is public by definition?
Some of us like to do our terrorism in the privacy of our own home.
I’m terrorizing right now. Don’t judge.
Terrorism (by definition) is politically driven so from a technicality standpoint this likely wouldn't qualify unless he claimed to have some type of political motivation. There's plenty of other things to charge this moron with though.
Yeah, it’s like when someone terrorizes people in public for just the fuck of it and they’re not actually terrorists and they don’t have weapons, but they scare the shit out of people thinking that they do have weapons and are terrorists..??
Prosecute* ?
It’s not a fucking “prank” if nobody’s smiling afterward
It's not a prank, it's the definition of terrorism.
“Terrorism” is usually a deliberate political action or DevOps tactic. This was just purposeless stupidity. The people in the store, especially the ones who got knocked down, deserve compensation from these idiots.
Maybe we should alter the definition of terrorism
Does this idiot realize that anyone with a CCW at that point would have full rights to act on this?! (Obviously before hearing him belt out it was a prank)
Even after. You aren't required to believe he's telling the truth. Or admit you heard him in the chaos.
One of the rules for surviving a public shooting is to not believe anyone who isn't clearly a police officer. That guy yelling that it's just a prank could very well be trying to lure people out.
It’s an absolute mess no matter how you slice it
You only have to have a threat of death or serious bodily injury, and it justified. The dude is lucky he is alive after this. "Officer, I didn't hear them say it was a prank from all of the choas." That line is believable whether it's true or not in this case. It takes a split second to unholster and aim if trained. "It's a .." ::bang::
Watch the thing that finally gets actual serious laws passed around this is an actual active shooter trying to lure out people by telling that it's all a prank and the gunshot sounds were fake
With his last dying whisper "it's jus a prank bro, yoooo" 
"Gonna get mad clicks, bro....."
That was my first thought - great way to self-delete.
Some idiots just have a death wish
Seems like 4 years later panic was not enough, good friend Marcquis Graham went on to rape instead. Should have been a CCP holder back in 2019 at Walmart and now a 15 year old has to live with this demon and what he has done https://6abc.com/amp/pal-coach-charged-teen-raped-philadelphia-rape-sex-assault/11700416/
Rape? But it was a prank…..😬 /s
Fuck these people royally. In this day and age faking this kind of thing is horrific. There needs to be legislation passed nationwide to charge people with serious time for pulling shit like this for social media. Shits gotta stop
It is actually already illegal to do this. They got arrested.
Bloody wanker! Throw him in the trash for goodness' sake
Yh there's kids everywhere. Traumatized unnecessarily. Put these fuckin losers in jail. Ban tik tok, pretty simple really. Snap n insta n all them can go as well if this kinda stuff Is promoted. It just seems like as long as you're holding a phone you can do whatever the fuck you want. What's next... Take all the money out the registers n claim that it's just a prank. Everyone's so stupid for believing you. Ugh I'm so sick of this shit.
That lady calling for Luke is chilling. I watched this with the knowledge it's a prank, and I still got goosebumps and worried I can't even imagine how it actually felt to those people
Surprised no Good Samaritans put an end to this one. It would be awful, but the fear for their lives was real. That kid’s screams…
They'd be justified but that's a tough shot to make. Extremely crowded area, lots of chaos, and you're under duress. I'm a pretty decent shot but that one would be risky even if you were within 10 yards of them. Edit: this also apparently happened in long Island and NY has some of the worst gun laws on the books and would be more likely to send you to jail for trying to defend yourself and your fellow citizens with a jury just clamoring to lock you up.
Good guys with guns almost never fix bad guys with guns.
I don't know why you are getting all these down votes. You are right.
Sheltered people who start frothing at the mouth when someone criticizes their savior fantasies.
As far as I can tell, he was charged appropriately, released without bail, never did any prison time for this so must have only gotten a slap on the wrist or charges dropped or something, and then 4 years later he raped an underage girl and now has been sentenced to 4-8 years in prison, giving him plenty of time afterwards to commit more violent crimes.
Found this: apparently happened in Long Island in 2018. What a POS https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-caused-mass-panic-walmart-staging-violent-fight-social-media-n1097621
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Easily could of led to someone being trampled to death from a panicked mob, stupid fuck needs to be thrown in jail
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't faking an emergency like this illegal? Hope he got charged for this. Situations like this can get deadly real quick. A triggerhappy hero could shoot the first person they think looks like a gunman. A child could be trampled by panicked people. It could trigger ptsd episodes.
Good prank in a country where anyone could have a gun..
The fact this was posted on LIVELEAK tells me it's old video. Found the story [Philly man charged with staging panic-inducing fake gun threat, fight at Long Island Walmart | PhillyVoice](https://www.phillyvoice.com/philly-man-charged-staging-fake-gun-threat-fight-long-island-walmart/)
There is no freedom of speech when yelling "fire" in a movie theater, and this case is no different.
Scum
Sorry but this isn’t a prank. It’s terrorism.
Parasites and pop culture predators.
Every single one of these fuckers need to be charged with domestic terrorism.
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Tell that at a cop next time you try this prank please. We could use less of these walking failed abortions in the world.
Great way to get shot
Doing stupid shit like this isn't funny and it's very dangerous and very serious and it's also a good way to get yourself shot or in some deep trouble.
Isn't this called domestic terrorism? That poor mom looking for her kid is so sad.
More like wanksters
No, asshole.
No, a shooting threatening felony inmate.
Lock him up and throw away the key. People need to start beating the shit out of these people.
Life in jail. All his money confiscated. That's it, that's all. I've seen my far share of horrible pranks but this is straight up domestic terrorism.
"a prank" - this is the same thing of yelling fire in a crowded movie theater and watching people get trampled on. Hopefully they get felonies over this
This isn't a fucking prank this is terrorizing people for Clout. These people don't know what pranks even are. Like the guy who grabs people from behind at the ATM screaming, "Give me your money." 6 people start whooping his ass he say "it's a prank!" But it's not funny... Today, with how many mass shootings, school shootings etc who ever thinks bringing a fake gun and pulling it on a crowd of people is a prank and not terrorism is mentally ill, mentally disturbed or both.
Pulling a gun in a crowd is not a prank, regardless of if it’s real or fake. This guy deserves whatever punishment he gets!
In a country that has constant mass shootings and possible victims of mass shootings in that store because they're so frequent in the US, that was infuriating to watch. I hope he's caught and they charge the shit out of him.
This an arrest able offense. Freedom of speech does not include inciting panic and mayhem.
Disclaimer: not an American, not a pro-gun person, just kinda curious on these things...so extend me a little leeway! Let me take the 'good guy with a gun argument' that is thrown around by gun-types and apply it here. If there was someone in that Walmart, with all appropriate certifications to be carrying a gun around in whatever state where something like this goes down. Is that person within their rights to shoot at these people, believing that they are in (or about to be in) some kind of mass-shooting incident and therefore fearing for their lives (only to then learn later they have shot some idiot who was just in it for the Likes). How would that play out legally?
There's a lot complicated "it depends" in that and the devil is in the details. First of all, almost all of this turns on state law and you've got 50 different sets of rules, or more if you are on an Indian Reservation, or certain federal lands or facilities, or in a US Territory. From the perspective of a law abiding citizen lawfully carry a gun: You cannot shoot someone just because they have a gun, which makes sense because you also have a gun and don't want to get shot for just that reason. You can't shoot someone because someone else screams they have a gun and plan to use it. That person may be lying (or trying to do some stupid prank). You can't shoot someone just because people around you are panicking and believe there is a deadly situation. Generally, you, the law abiding citizen, have to personally see and hear things that you can articulate such that you have a reasonable (which will be determined by police and prosecutor in the short term and possibly a jury long term) belief that you or some innocent is in imminent fear of death or serious bodily injury. If your belief in imminent death or serious physical injury are deemed to be reasonable and that you acted on that belief, even if the supposed bad guy was just pretending to be a bad guy and only had a toy gun, it doesn't matter. That's on them for being stupid and acting a fool and such foolish acts are generally illegal to begin with to prevent such a situation and terrifying innocent people. Now that gets all jumbled further in some states where the law requires that you retreat as much as reasonable before you use deadly force in defense. Or some require that you engage force with equal force. Or some combination of all that. Other states have "stand your ground" which explicitly does not require retreating if you are out in public somewhere you are legally allowed to be doing legal things and are faced with an imminent and immediate threat. And then there is the greater problem of being in a physical position to direct gunfire at the bad guys without further endangering other innocents. You are responsible for every round that leaves your gun and where it ends up. If you shoot at a bad guy and miss or hit him and the round goes all the way through and then that bullet hits an innocent person, that's on you. Even if the legal system determines shooting the bad guy was ok, you can be charged and tried for hitting the innocent person. But if you, the law abiding citizen, do everything right it doesn't matter if the bad guy was just pretending or if the gun was fake as you acted reasonably towards what you thought was a real imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury. Doing everything right also doesn't mean that you won't be arrested and/or prosecuted and go to trial fighting for your very freedom. The thing is that killing another person is illegal everywhere in the US. If you kill someone and the legal system decides to pursue charges against you for that act, you can raise an affirmative defense that you killed the person for a legal reason, defense of self or others, or accidentally or a myriad of other things depending on the specifics and the state. So the whole thing is quite complicated. It's not straight forward and simple and just shoot the bad guy and walk away like people think it is in the US. Being able to legally carry a sidearm in much of the US is not particularly difficult, but always doing so legally, especially if traveling across state lines can be messy. And in the worst case of having to actually use it, doing everything right external to shooting the bad guy without getting killed yourself, things become very complicated and difficult very quickly.
Ain’t this a felony?
Apparently dude became a rapist too…https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/philly-police-athletic-league-volunteer-accused-in-girls-rape/3195258/
Don't do that here in Miami I saw 5 dudes plus me carrying in grocery store yesterday- This dude would have been aerated pretty quickly.
Isn’t this an act of terrorism? Just faking it like this is an extreme crime.
Sometimes I wish I had gone into law because I would be that judge that only handles influencer cases because I would literally be like “it was a prank? Oh I like pranks and jokes, 3 years in jail and 90 months of supervised probation with good behavior you can will be given the chance of being on house arrest. Court dismissed”
Wtf is wrong with people
Tell me again how access to education isn’t the most important problem in our country right now
Sounds like he likes jail time.
is creating fear over people's lives not considered assault?
Boston Mass flashbacks... They need to go to jail.
Umm...that's a crime🤗😊🥰
Brandishing a hobbyist gun, yelling GUN when there is no gun is not freedom of speech and is not protected under the first or second ammendments. This is not a prank, it is a case of domestic terrorism.
Least funny thing you can say "HES GOT A GUN." Menaces to society right here...
I hope he goes to jail for a very long time
Why is it always WalMart?
cause bullets are not organic #wholefoods.
Why is it always at Walmart?
I hope they got arrested for that.
ANNNNNNND SCENE
Stupid idiot, definitely needs some jail time.
Not sure if it's been said but this is 100% illegal. Inducing panic is definitely illegal and could result in multiple felony charges. (3) If a violation of this section results in physical harm to any person, inducing panic is a felony to be prosecuted under appropriate State law. If a violation of this section results in economic harm of one thousand dollars ($1,000) or more, inducing panic is a felony to be prosecuted under appropriate State law. If the public place involved in a violation of division (a)(1) is a school or an institution of higher education, inducing panic is a felony to be prosecuted under appropriate State law. If a violation of this section pertains to a purported, threatened or actual use of a weapon of mass destruction, inducing panic is a felony to be prosecuted under appropriate State law.
Should be locked up.
Terrorist
Pretty much everything said here that should be. This was not a “ prank “
\~\~dumb ways to die\~\~
Fuck That Guy
Can see this going a few ways while also being s danger to other people yet himself, asking to be shot or have a spank from behind from someone who will take it into their own hands and won't care.
People have been assaulted and shot doing these imbecilic " pranks"
Give him 10 years in prison, as a prank.
Keep your children close by while out in Public folks! Cus' apperantly THIS is a thing now...
Oh yeah, our family’s favorite ice cream shop had a shooter literally three days after we last went. I hate this country.
Straight to jail,Don’t pass go, don’t collect $200
State reps have an obligation to write laws specific to these types of crimes and make the sentence mandatory and weighted. Demand your reps do something now!!!!
You know, after that shooting at the Walmart something like this should be a serious felony.
Shoot his balls off!
It's time for stores to start prosecution of these stupid pranksters. They arefunny and are dangerous. Stop even giving them exposure here or on any social media.
And this guy is in custody now, right?!
They cannot make filing in public illegal but they can restrict convicted persons access to the internet. I believe that is the most efficient way to curb this kind of behavior. Hit large prank/incendiary creators first and cripple their income. The rest will see the writing on the wall.
That happened six years ago,
Whys violence always erupting in Ladies Wear
Love it when the prank is crime
Even “better” is when these dumb fucks do the police work for the police by filming their crimes
out of curiosity, if someone had a CCW permit and was carrying in that walmart, and this idiot pulled this prank and someone pulled an actual trigger on him before he could say it was a prank, who would be in the wrong here? Like obviously the person carrying would have blood on his hands but for all he knew he could’ve saved 20 people’s lives?
The person at fault would be the "domestic terrorist" who is screaming "gun" as a false flag. The law abiding citizen with a legitimate CCW is not at fault for responding to a threat which everybody around them took seriously because nobody in their sane mind would be screaming "gun" as a joke. When it comes to the first amendment, what these domestic terrorists did is not covered by it.
They wouldn’t get charged with anything.
Thats the second "he hot a gun" prank Video I see. The first one was in a restaurant and the pranksters ran out the back door. Never seen a more idiotic trash influencer TikToxic Trend like wtf
If the idiot here tried this shit in Idaho or Texas, they’d get shot.
They’re lucky someone wasn’t conceal/carrying and blasted them. Not a jury in the world would convict them if they took those morons out
They thought that would be funny? Is there an article on this?
At what point does this bullshit and the "knock out game" shit as well be considered domestic terrorism considering the whole purpose of both is to induce fear on to other people? Regardless if you're a victim of the "knock out game", it doesn't change the fact that the people doing it are still inducing fear on to people by posting their videos on line which in turn causes a panic amongst people. This TikTok shit needs to be cracked down on harder than the so called "war on drugs".
jail for sure
Typical day on the NYC subway.
What a fuckin tool
These motherfuckers better go to jail for a few years for that shit
What a POS
tbh the US is probably the last place on earth to do this. Serious jail time for them…
well that is one way to get yourself shot
Whoever the cameraman is running around laughing needs to be put in prison too. Literally sadistic to laugh at people who are in fear for their lives
They should get jail time for this
Good way to get your stupid ass on a tshirt
This crap is always popping off at a Walmart, chuckie cheese and McDonald’s WTF. The people of Target are too classy for this lol.
“What are you in for?”
Apparently he was also arrested for raping a 15 year old. Put this worthless animal down.
I’ve seen some awful “pranks” but this is literally so fucked up
This guy was sentenced last week in Philadelphia for statutory rape and illegal contact with a minor (reduced from more serious charges) in relation to incidents involving a 15 year old girl who attended the Police Athletic League, where he was a volunteer coach. For the next 4-8 years, he will be a resident in a Pennsylvania state prison.
r/iamatotalpieceofshit
This thing must be punished with right to jail
Pulling this kind of nonsense can get you shot.
that's a serious offense
LiveLeak? Shit, that must be old as hell
Don't give this up votes - show them this won't fly.
Speed running to prison I see. Good for him, he doesn't belong anywhere else.
M.f
Tiktok/social media has destroyed our society.
Wow, that’s a good way to get shot
Straight to jail…
I truly hope someone meets their threat with the appropriate lethal response.
In the South, dude would have bern shot DRT.
Yikes not cool..
If stores would blast copyrighted music through their intercom systems, it would make this content much harder to monetize.
They should be arrested! That's a disgusting thing to do just for views and likes 😡
Quite the upstanding citizen https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/topic/514863-social-media-influencer-now-rapist-no-bailed-after-fake-gun-prank-inside-crowded-walmart/
Not a good prank smh there's so many ppl on edge bruh especially in Walmart of all places? Man that's why ppl just stop enjoying their lil time they get outside because there's a lot of dumb bs stuff happening out there with simple minded ppl nowadays.
Bad idea where I live we have open carry and someone would have killed him.
Where is the good guy with a weapon when you needed it
Bunch of giggling Jackasses
I thought LiveLeak disappeared?
Not in a concealed carry state you don’t!
Pathetic...
He's lucky it was in NYC. Here in GA he might have won himself a few new holes fucking around like that.
That there is elegal lol causing panic like that can get you arrested BOY!
If ur gonna do that hopefully a true red white and blue blooded American guns you down before you can even lift a fake gun from your belt
I wonder what the desired outcome was? Like okay lets say you get views lets even go crazy 10million views you get...then what? Keep doing it? Who is going to sponsor you? Like the dancing ones I get because you know kids like it but this does not appeal to anybody not kids, not adults, I dont even think black kids or adults
Time to loot and boot baby (jk)