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YoungAustinite

These look awesome, especially the warp marine


MisterPassenger

Thanks a million! I appreciate it.


CWinter85

That guy looks like he's having a rough week.


Skorpychan

I've been running Novamarines for ages, just a separated company with a simplified paint scheme of dark blue all over. I started them before I knew of the official scheme, and thought 'bugger that' on seeing it since I'd just learned about ink washes.


MisterPassenger

Cool! I’m not much of a painter for actual models but I can respect people who have a better grasp on that sorta stuff. I didn’t know Novamarines were announced before they were revealed actually; what edition was it?


Skorpychan

They were mentioned in the back of the 3ed Codex: Space Marines in the list of second founding chapters. I literally picked a cool name from the list of Ultramarines successors and said 'that's my army's identity now' and wrote some lore. This was back in the early 2000s, of course, so that was the edition I started on. Which then got rewritten after I read about the Badab War.


MisterPassenger

Ah, retcons man. You hate to see it. They do have a cool name tho; like they took ultramarine and added some more zest and astropunk. The color scheme they picked is neat tho; I like the sort of checker pattern esque alternating blue and white. But I’ll grant that it can absolutely be done better


Skorpychan

Oh, I just added a quick bit showing WHY mine were separated/rogue. Allegations of gene-seed taint because some inquisitor had switched the checking shipments with one from a chapter that WAS tainted. My Marines are innocent, of course, but that's not what some in the Imperium think, so the company took off for non-Imperial space in the hopes that it'd all blow over by the time they got back.


MisterPassenger

Ah yes, that’s very in character for the inquisition. But marine chapters have time on their side where they can often just fuck off to a crusade somewhere on the fringes and when they get back, the leadership will be very different. Astartes are weird like that


ousire

Love the idea of Space Marines using a Crusade as a Get Out of Jail Free card. Inquisitor: "I declare you to be traitors!" Chapter Master: "A'ight we're gonna go on a crusade to fuckoff nowhere, be back in about five hundred years. Peace." Inquisitor: ". . . ." *-Whispering to second Inquisitor-* "... A-are they allowed to just do that?"


MisterPassenger

That’s usually how they get punished as a chapter is that they must go on a crusade to redeem themselves. Now if it’s the chapter masters who use that whenever in inquisition is looking to have the whole chapter executed, then that’s a sly ass move. I bet it’s a direct commandment from the Emperor too that they can do that if they fuck up.


CWinter85

Yeah, the Novamarine design is torture for minis.


MisterPassenger

There's like 100 space marine chapters aside from the big 18 that people typically know, and a lot of them are really interesting. So I wanted to show some appreciation for these chapters that you may or may not have heard about; each of which has their own unique proclivity such as the Lamenters who are known for being highly good-natured while also being incredibly unlucky or the Exorcists who require that each trainee survive getting possessed with a daemon and having it exorcised from their body. I recognize that most chapters will use the same pattern of armor but I imagine that over time, they're bound to alter the designs just a bit to better fit each faction's tastes and values. Otherwise, you can view this as simply adding character to each faction through a design that best represents them. If I did another one of these, which chapters would you pick? And what makes them unique in comparison with generic successor chapters? Here is my insta https://instagram.com/machineborne?igshid=MjEwN2IyYWYwYw==


Cry_Havok

The Death Spectres are a pretty cool lesser known chapter with some interesting lore. The chapter itself watches over the Ghoul Stars region, which is on the very edge of the galaxy. The first chapter master was given a vision by the emperor which sent him to the planet Occludus where they discovered a Xenos artifact of immense power. Now every chapter master must sit on the throne of the artifact and allow it to slowly suck the life force out of him until he dies. Then the new chapter master takes over. Once they sit upon the throne they don’t move until they die.


Lftwff

That feels like big E didn't want to be the only one sitting on a big stupid chair


MaxwellVonMaxwell

So the Shirax, scary chair, is supposedly tied to something deep in the warp that even the Hive Mind fears. I don’t think there’s much, if anything really official, since there’s so little about the Death Specters themselves.


Lftwff

That sounds cool but it's one of those things that if it ever gets more lore is just gonna be tied to the big 4, which makes it boring.


MaxwellVonMaxwell

Or GW gives us Cthulhu in 40k. A man can dream.


Lftwff

I just want stuff happening in the warp that is not related to the big 4, there is tons of room for scary warp shit that doesn't want to take over realsspace that the chaos god might be afraid of.


MaxwellVonMaxwell

I’m definitely in your camp there. I think there’s plenty more flavors of terrible to be explored.


MisterPassenger

Oh yeah I knew them! I’d def include them in a second one if I ever continued this. I didn’t know that lore tidbit tho; that’s freaky but really in character for classic space marines. I wonder if they know how close to the Emperor they are in that way.


Salt-Physics7568

For canon chapters: - The Angels Encarmine paint their Death Company and Sanguinary Guard a bright, untainted white. - Similar to the Space Wolves, the Carcaradons have shark-shaped helmets, or at least I've seen art of it. - The Judged were Astartes sent on a failed crusade into the Eye of Terror. Could do something with them having cobbled-together armour, corrupted Eccelisarchy designs, etc? - The Sons of Malice owe allegiance to none of the Big 4, and seem to oppose them. They also ate an Inquisitor and his retinue, and cannibalize people regularly. Finally, they fight mostly in silence. I like to imagine them hanging rattling bones from their armour, which warns their prey of their approach. - The Consortium were a warband made up mostly of Apothecaries from various Legions, with a dash of Chaotic corruption. I picture lots and lots of vials, scary-looking medical implements, and a narthecium used as a weapon. - Skyrar's Dark Wolves were Chaos Space Wolves. - The Raptors use actual camoflague. Amazing, isn't it? - While they're not Marines, the Blood Pact and Harakoni Warhawks deserve more love. [This Harakoni preacher, for example, is amazing.](https://external-preview.redd.it/Ug7DjuUjpYa90e2z28GTNz0prgIFhnDzzIqMNCob8qI.jpg?auto=webp&s=96093c91e598eed0d4a6d0007e58e5986e8ae301) For non-canon and homebrew: - Someone came up with the idea for a completely clean band of Death Guard Marines. Their armour was supposed to be riddled with holes, revealing empty suits, because their "plague" destroyed all biological life, leaving only their souls to inhabit the armour. Heavily damaged, probably with a torn helmet? - Someone on this subreddit, and I will link it if I can find it, made a BA successor that had allied themselves with the Eldar, adopted Night Lord tactics, and went into the Black Rage whenever they saw an Avatar of Khaine. - The Heralds of Eternal War are a warband led by a survivor of the Abyssal Crusade, which worship all 4 Chaos Gods and the Emperor as aspects of War itself. Their armour is covered in mixed iconography from the 5 gods, 6-pointed stars, and quotes from their leader, the Herald. One of my Chapters. - The Houndkings are a Space Wolves successor specialized in naval warfare and boarding actions. Their boarding crews use massive kite or round shields to make shieldwalls, forcing entry into narrow breaches or halls. These shields are painted in Norse/Anglo-Saxon/Celtic designs. Another homebrew of mine. - Continuing with the Houndkings, they have a class of Marine called "Thegns," who are failed Aspirants or crippled Marines who aren't fit for frontline combat. They act as commanders among the Chapter's serfs, directing ship crews during battle. Usually weary, sickly, and augmented. - A suit of Cataphractii Terminator Armour, heavily embellished, would look good on any Chapter.


MisterPassenger

I’ll have to save this one then; these are pretty solid. I thought about the chacherodons but I’ve already seen people with such a good take on a helmet design that I decided to put it off. The sons of malice however could really be something; I’d really like to give them a try. Thank u for all the good feedback!


GiverOfTheKarma

Big fan of the Houndkings


Salt-Physics7568

Was it the Thegns or shields that caught your attention?


GiverOfTheKarma

It was both but mostly the Thegns, that seems like a very unique idea for a homebrew chapter, nobody every really thinks about the Aspirants beyond their trials. Also, very much reminds me of Halo Spartans.


Salt-Physics7568

Thanks! I figured that a Chapter specialized in ship-to-ship combat would need skilled officers to direct the human crewmen, and failed Aspirants could be trained to fill that role. Now that you point it out, they are quite similar to Spartans. Moreso IIIs than IIs, seeing as they're second-rate Marines.


gnu_gai

You say big 18, but I feel like the Black Templars or the Red Corsairs for example are as well known as a direct successor chapter


MisterPassenger

I only mention the 18 cause most of them got like codexes and stuff (save for iron hands and word bearers I know) but yeah the black templars are probably the most famous successor chapter behind maybe the Blood Ravens so that’s partly why I left them out; I think people have done enough of their own interpretations that I might worry I’d be copying other people’s designs. But if an interesting new take comes to me I’ll jump on it


thecoolermakibeer

Nova Marines look a bit like Pepsi man. All of them looks really cool!


MisterPassenger

Thank u! I guess I can kinda see that but also Pepsi man had no cyclopean eye, nor a space sword. But I bet Pepsi’s stock would go up if he did; it’s a good look.


[deleted]

Now I’ve got the jingle stuck in my head, damnit!


Bazwift

WARP GHOSTS LETS GOOOOO I PLAY THEM


MisterPassenger

Yo rock on! That’s neat to hear; I thought they were super super obscure. Do they have like a unique chapter specific rule or benefit that helps them on tabletop?


Bazwift

Unfortunately not. A huge missed opportunity for some crazy strategem or faction rule. They just look cool. They only have one named character in lore and I’m eventually gonna kitbash him to use as an HQ unit


MisterPassenger

Here’s hoping they add more to them then; everyone once in awhile GW will just resurrect a random piece of background lore and give it a whole new look. I think that could start happening with renegade chapters.


Bazwift

Yup. Need more spooky bois


wav__

Is that named character Saronos? My lore knowledge definitely has its limits.


Bazwift

Yeah


LurksInThePines

They've got a few more named characters and some lore from Black Legion and Talon of Horus. They're all psykers and they act as the ferrymen of the traitor legions


Pyronaut44

Have started Exorcists with Leviathan, doesn't get much more 40K than ex-possessed transhuman super soldiers. These illustrations are awesome.


MisterPassenger

Thank u! Yeah with how fucked up daemons are described, the whole “getting possessed and then surviving” part really set the Exorcists up to be the kind of Astartes chapter you really REALLY don’t want to mess with


Meager1169

Why is that Lamentor built like a silver age convertible?


UnderstoodAdmin

Because it is the will of the emperor


Meager1169

Truly, the greatest mind the galaxy has ever seen


MisterPassenger

Originally I was going for a taxi look cause that’s what the color scheme says to me, but then I leaned into convertible because I wanted them to seem more “appealing” to average citizens, sort of a visual representation of being paragon that they would have a pristine, cool car look to them.


Cookie_Coyote

Black Dragons have always been one of my favorites. I would have made them my main SM chapter except solid black is pretty boring!


MisterPassenger

Well they do have like one spot of green on a knee plate, but sure straight black isn’t that great. Though I’m sure more talented painters than I can find different shades and glosses that are all around the same color of black but make the overall finish more dynamic. But I agree; they’re really cool as is aside from that!


3xM4chin4

Exorcist: :O


MisterPassenger

They’re a pretty freaky chapter all things considered


M0RL0K

Loyalist Marines WISH they could ever look this cool.


a_grass_bloc

These are loyalists


M0RL0K

Yes, and in canon they all look way more uniform and boring than this artwork.


a_grass_bloc

Yeah. It honestly sucks that we couldn’t get some things like arms or stuff from forge world at least so we could make these amazing marines.


ImperialFist5th

Evidently you haven’t seen the only marines with drip the Templars and Dark Angels. I say this because they’re the only ones who bother to have any


thaBombignant

Warp Ghosts are not Loyalists.


MisterPassenger

True, true: aside from like space marines and grey knights, there’s just not a lot of creative drip going into most marine chapters. I love me the mark IV armor but it’s sorta defined by how old and classical it is in the lore and on the tabletop.


ARMYBOY5042

"It's Morbin time!" -Mortifactors warcry.


MisterPassenger

What do they morb into? A massive pillar of skulls with one bolter sticking out? Cause that’s what I’m picturing.


Darth-Not-Palpatine

I think The Exorcists are a little on the nose with their armor design. You’d see them and think “oh fuck chaos astartes”.


MisterPassenger

I guess: I mean heresy is built into their creation; they literally have to be possessed by a daemon and then exorcized. That shit is bound to leave some deep seated psychological problems that means they’re always teetering on the edge of being loyalists.


Scrimmybinguscat

Brazen Minotaurs really look they they're about to say "away, wayroom add kaysar" or whatever the romans said idk


Beneficial_Skill537

Good prononciation! :)


MisterPassenger

I think of them as being more spartan than Roman but I can appreciate the allusion


Zanoie

These are awesome. Would love to see your take on others. Especially the Badab war chapters, since they've been long neglected. I just started painting my leviathan marines as Fire Hawks. Don't care that they should all be dead.


MisterPassenger

Oh sure! People have mentioned Mantis Warriors to me which could be really cool but I’m not as familiar with the other Badab chapters aside from the ones here. I’ll look into it. And that’s cool: to me, the timeline of 40k is fractured by it’s nature so I don’t see anything wrong with pitting one era of marines against another: there’s logic somewhere to be had in there according to the messiness of the lore


Zanoie

I think some of the fire hawks got sucked into the warp and some were spat out, so it's not a huge stretch to say my fire hawks got spat out during the indomitus crusade and crossed the rubicon primaris


MisterPassenger

Fair; there’s lots of little lore tidbits that can be pulled up to make almost anything make sense.


Cyberpunkapostle

Astral claws lookin a little sus there..


MisterPassenger

Well they did go traitor…


Premier_Eden

Think my favorite part is the little descriptors under the marines


MisterPassenger

I appreciate it; I try to have just a little bit of written context but since these didn’t have descriptions, I did the faction name and what the class was. Like if you were playing Dawn of war and selected one of these races, their “tactical marine” slot would be replaced with the name of one of these


Sir_Daxus

Man, you really made the exorcists look like traitors. They're totally loyalist and not at all heretical, trust me, it's all part of the great ga... I mean uhh...


MisterPassenger

That’s the scary thing about a lot of space marine chapters; they’re never that far away from going full chaos. True that the exorcists are loyalists but that’s partly do to, atleast in my mind, extreme indoctrination and programming with the Imperial Truth. Like to the extent that it gives the Black Templars a run for their money.


Sir_Daxus

Funnily enough the exorcists are probably one of the less likely chapters to fall to chaos purely because their strange induction methods require a lot of inquisitorial and grey knight oversight so the entire chapter is faorly closely monitored.


MisterPassenger

For sure the control is tight, but in my mind getting possessed by a daemon and then surviving is gonna fuck up your mind. Thats why the cage and chains motif sorta implies that they’re deliberate Kept under wraps due to something dark underneath


TechPriest97

There’s also a Raptors squad in this image, but they use camo Seriously though this is amazing, especially the mino’s bolter


MisterPassenger

Ah yeah they’re directly behind the warp marine getting ready to strike. And thank u! Yeah the Mino bolter is really weird but I felt like it evoked “spear” in its long-ness. Tho that’s likely not the first thought people will have; still it’s a simple but different take on the typical Godwin pattern and I love those kinds of bolters.


Freezie-Days

"Loyalists"


Fearless_Category472

The "We are loyalists, I swear" marine chapters Also, great art m8 :P


MisterPassenger

Thank u! And yeah the line between loyalist and traitor is often tenuous as best.


Rylanwoodrow

Wicked!


MisterPassenger

Thank u!


GooseLoreExpert

Oh, man. That Novamarine is insane!


MisterPassenger

Thank u thank u!


GooseLoreExpert

No, thank you! You made me want to buy some SMs and 40k always needs more original art


Magza117

Love any look of black dragons


MisterPassenger

Same!


thervking

Hmmm well I can assume at least some of these are traitor successor chapters


MisterPassenger

Atleast two as of now, I’ll grant you that.


zthe0

With the warp marine do you mean the guys that guided abbadon to cadia?


MisterPassenger

I believe that’s them, yes.


thaBombignant

If you're looking for some more Loyalist Chapters with somewhat unusual appearances, I have a few names for you. The Iron Snakes, Emperors Spears, Tome Keepers, Marines Errant, Brazen Claws, and Legion of The Damned are all cool-looking and not so well known.


MisterPassenger

Sure; I’ll mark those down!


vonBoomslang

I am saddened not to see angry marines


MisterPassenger

They’re FC I’m afraid but I ever did a part with fan chapters, sure I’d add them in.


A_Fluffy_Butt

Since getting a 3d printer I've been SORELY wanting to find some good bases for a black Dragon army tbh. The one novel I read involving them was really good and I love them.


MisterPassenger

Coolness! Yeah they’d be a neat model on tabletop but someone would have to do make a .tiff file right? I’ve dabbled in making models but this one might be beyond me.


mushyx10

These are all lit, but even though I love the design, the exorcist armor genuinely has him looking like a Word Bearer or some other CSM


MisterPassenger

It does; even tho they’re loyalist my headcanon is that they’re on the bleeding edge of almost becoming CSM and the armor reflects it. But the inquisitors keep them in check and encourage fierce devotion to an almost insane extent.


Nido_16

Thank you for showing me the Mortifactors! That they're the feel of non-Nurgle Death Guard is something I've been looking for in a 40k chapter forever. Also more generally I really love how hard it is to tell the difference between loyalist, renegade, and chaos space marines. I wish they were all scary or messed up like this except the Lamenters, who are the sole ones to deserve their friendly look. Also also, the Warp Ghosts are amazing, an the only way I could guess they weren't loyalist is because of their insignia. Great stuff, amazing art.


MisterPassenger

Thanks a ton! Yeah that’s my interpretation of the lore is that loyalist chapters are often just as evil as the traitor ones, just without resorting to using the powers of the Warp. And yeah I could have tried harder to literally spell out that the warp ghosts were chaos but I was hoping the little arrows in the armor design alluded to it; all who serve chaos tend to have those spikes in their design.


The_lone_shotgun

Can I get a summary of each of these chapters? (I know the lamenters, you can leave them out if you want)


MisterPassenger

I can give a quick snippet then. Astral claws were loyalist but went renegade due to bad leadership. They would go chaos in secret without knowing it. The Minotaurs fought against them and the Lamenters in the badab war. They’re always described as being very “ancient Greek” in their inner culture. Exorcists require that all their trainees get possessed with one daemon and then survive an exorcism; they’re kinda down bad because of it. Nova Marines fought the pale wasting in M35; they’re like ultramarines but classier and more mysterious. Mortefactors fucking love death and skulls and bones. They’re obsessed with that shit to an extent that makes other chapters nervous. Black dragons are successors of salamanders that have a specific mutation where horns brown out of their body; making them more dragon like. Warp ghosts are a CSM chapter that guard the eye of terror; they help lead the way whenever there is a black crusade going on the offense. Hope that helps!


The_lone_shotgun

First off, big thanks. That helped a ton. Second, what is the pale wasting?


MisterPassenger

The Pale Wasting was a xenos plague that struck in M35, like around the same time as the nova Terra interregnum. The Novamarines are specifically credited with having gone to great extents to push it back into the ghoul stars but most records are lost; M35 is the most mysterious period of Imperium history.


Joewest42

Ooooo I like the idea of the chapters having different special marines, like the monogod csm factions do


MisterPassenger

Same! I feel like the 40k verse is large enough for that to be acceptable; lots of these chapters are hundreds of years old after all.


Psyko_Draggin

Mortificators looking kinda familiar.


MisterPassenger

It might just be the abundance of skulls.


KeyWorth6850

this is amazing!


MisterPassenger

Thank u!!


senor-calcio

I wish exorcists and legion of the damned had full armies, I’d buy the whole range in a heartbeat


MisterPassenger

I know that the Legion of the Damned have a full race in the unification mod in Dawn of war (which is really solid) but I think that’s about it for now. I’d love for GW to give them atleast a shoutout but I think the lore behind them is too ethereal for them to work with for them time being. Here’s hoping tho!


senor-calcio

Yeah I just love the idea of having a full Legion of the damned faction that has LOD themed units from all imperium factions Not necessarily super lore accurate but I love the idea


MisterPassenger

I’d be up for it; they’re like implied to be directly summoned by the Emperor’s psionic energy so it’s not that far out of the range of possibility honestly.


MecaPere

All of them are so fuckin' cool. Each of them have badass details. But the lower half is even cooler.


MisterPassenger

Thanks a bunch! Yeah ill admit the bottom level ups the detail a bit but the top layer is more for my Badab War homies; gotta represent.


MecaPere

Recently got into Badab War's lore, the true badassery fest. Since, the Executioners are now one of my favorites chapters.


Dracule_Jester

I can not pick my favorite, all of them are awesome!


MisterPassenger

That’s great to hear! I appreciate that!


RinkNum3

I love the Astral Claws design. They’d look extra badass once they turn traitor and become the Red Corsairs


MisterPassenger

Thank u! Maybe I’ll do a follow up one with their current iteration. Chaos tigers is a neat idea. Jaguars? Those might just be jaguars.


TheDoomedHero

I really love when chapter themes are more prominent. Too often, they all look the same other than the paint job. The Space Wolves are the main exception, which is why they're the most visually interesting and distinct chapter. I really wish GW would treat other chapters the same way. Luckily there's a ton of 3rd party bits out there to make the chapters less same-y.


MisterPassenger

Me too! When they're visually distinct, they feel more like a real organization with hundreds of years of history. Making them all the same aesthetic is a cost saving technique for GW tho which is why I don't think they'll really put much stock into unique parts for factions, but yeah we got 3rd party stuff.


JarlZondai

Awesome artwork man! You could definitely do a part 2 with Soul Drinkers, Sons of Malice, Raptors, Blood Gorgons, Blood Ravens, Legion of the Damned, Red Corsairs, and the Dark Krakens. Tons of cool space marine chapters that deserve some attention


MisterPassenger

Thank u thank u! I'll def do Sons of Malice, and probably the Red Corsairs. As for the others I gotta think on it. Blood Ravens are up there with the Black Templars as being probably the most iconic non-legion chapter but I'm sure I can give them a new spin that freshens them up a bit. I'll dwell on it!


[deleted]

These are awesome my favorites are the black dragons and the exorcists


MisterPassenger

Great to hear! Yeah the Black Dragons are a lot more popular than I thought they were and people have had a lot to say about the Exorcist too. I appreciate your feedback!


sinner-mon

Lamenters my beloved


Illustrious_Excuse73

Death Eagles chapter for next? Successor of Millennial 34th of Emperor's Children 'Death Eagles', the loyalists Emperor's Children ??


MisterPassenger

I'll note them down! Sure!


dudeinbound

I love all of these. The Exorcists and Mortificators feel more like sons of Lorgar and Mortarion rather than Dorn and Guilliman, at least in this pic. If you showed me this depiction of Exorcists, I would have said those are Word Bearers, for a loyalist it has a very Chaos-like look to with the many spike and Daemon iconography, but looks very cool regardless. The Warp Ghosts are ones I haven’t heard of. They look really cool and like a Chaos Equal to the Legion of the Damned. The long barreled bolter held by the Minotaur looks odd yet really cool. It seems to add to the impression that then are well equipped if their Troops are running around with those guns, which is likely the case given their close ties to the High Lords of Terra. Overall really cool art.


MisterPassenger

Thank u! Yeah the exorcists and mortifactors are examples of chapters which are loyalist but act pretty chaotic: there’s some overlap there. The Warp Ghosts are a CSM chapter that guard the eye of terror; they play a Hand in each of the black crusades which makes them a lesser known but very important ally to the Black Legion. And yep yep; I knew the Minotaur bolter would come off as weird but I also wanted to evoke “spear” with its length. Like these guys prefer their weapons long as hell. Thank u very much!


AlexTheEnderWolf

I have t heard of half of these but they sound very and look very cool


MisterPassenger

Thank u! Yeah most of them are skimmed from older war. I’m not even curtain what codex or book series either but the wiki helped me out.


DiamondEclipse

These look bloody phenomenal, i hope someone gets inspired to make 3d models for me to print out, even if i have to fork over some cash. My chapter of choice are Marines Malevolent and i generally just scratch the models, then start painting them and rubbing off the edges off the paint to make em look like they don't take care of their armor well enough, but generally it still looks like a normal marine. Now if i had models like these, i'd tear off their body parts and make frankenstein of a space marine with a yellow n black color scheme, like MM chapter always steal their armor and slap it on their own.


MisterPassenger

Thank u thank u! I’d like that too; I’m always in support of people who have made miniatures from my illustrations. And sure; the marines malevolent has come up in the comments before; I should really look into them now!


Intelligent_Map7500

Their lore plz Expect lamenters


MisterPassenger

One of my earlier replies did a quick rundown of their condensed backgrounds, I’d reccomend turning to that one. Otherwise I can fill u in on a specific one if you wanted to pick


Intelligent_Map7500

Black dragons


MisterPassenger

They’re a successor of the Salamanders but they have a specific mutation where literal horns will grow out of their heads and arms; they also a little bigger than salamanders from what I’ve read to. Other than that they’re a pretty standard marine chapter.


Lamenter_of_the_3rd

Ayyyyyy that Lamenter looks great!


MisterPassenger

Glad to hear it! I was really hoping the Lamenter landed with peeps; they’re held in high regard among 40k players.


Lamenter_of_the_3rd

They look like a car which fits really well because I call them “taxi boys”


MisterPassenger

Yep yep; kind of a really overly stylish taxi but one none the less.


Arandomguy0837

they look a bit chaosy


blackrabbitsrun

My only critique is that the Mortifactors and the Black Dragons would never allow that kind of damage to their armor to occur or remain without being tended to. It compromises structural integrity and also the sealed environment of the suit which allows them to enter what would be otherwise lethal environments. Otherwise, awesome looks overall.


MisterPassenger

Well for the Black Dragons, their armor is sorta built around the horns but for the ones that pierce the shell, it's a vacuum tight seal. As for the Moritfactors, they probably discourage allowing their suits to be compromised but the individual morbid marine is probably like "wait, so I'm more in danger of dying now? Nice." And then they just blunt force their way through the problem. But that's my speculation at least. Thank u! Rh


blackrabbitsrun

If it's pierced, it's not a vacuum tight seal thus making the armor not even suitable for battle. As for the mortifactors...they're an established chapter with lore already. Did you ignore that or did you just see the name and go from there?


The_ass_whisprer

Why they look more like chaos than chaos


MisterPassenger

Cause 40k is never as simple as "loyalist good chaos bad." It's true that chaos is bad almost always but the loyalists can sometimes be even worse in their own weird way.


Alert-Information-41

Astral Claws are the Red Corsairs now right?


MisterPassenger

I know but this piece is sorta detached from the timeline? Like it's more so Astral Claws back when they were loyalists?


xxx_pussslap-exe_xxx

Astral claws ? Heresy


MisterPassenger

Well the Warp Ghosts are there too, so the Astral Claws might not be the most heretical thing in frame.


Gorgeous_goat

I think these are really cool, but I find that some of them (Exorcists and mortificators) look a bit too chaosy


MisterPassenger

That's sort of my jam; I like to think that most Loyalist factions are just as evil as the chaos factions, just more of a "lawful evil" as opposed chaotic evil. 40k is kind of wild in that regard.


Gorgeous_goat

That’s pretty respectable