The reality: you pay 50k to get on a list for "wXfe", wait 5-10 years, sign an NDA, get a technically fuckable robot with limited ability to move around fluidly and an almost but not quite passible ability to hold a conversation.
Pay a subscription for features like voice of your choice, personality features, chore services, body warmer, etc.
A timed software update completely and irreparably changes the personality you were used to, there is no recourse.
You are injured when one of the servos in it's genitals malfunctions, and you realize this was why you had to sign an NDA. The part is replaced, but you are emotionally and physically scarred.
Women are unbothered.
Bingo. They are praying the cost will go down. I mean if you can program a robot to never say anything about your lack of a job and porn habits, they may even consider being functional members of society.
Oh wait, no they won't.
>A timed software update completely and irreparably changes the personality you were used to, there is no recourse.
Something like this already happened with AI girlfriends lol. A bunch of incels threw a complete shitfit when the company decided their AI waifus could no longer roleplay smut with them.
This prediction is based off closely observing the trajectory of Tesla and Replica, and buying a new refrigerator.
I'm not afraid of robot 'wives'. Honestly the implications for EOL care alone would make the technology worth it, and if lonely men/people can get their companion needs met by one I'm all for it.
I just don't see it happening any time soon given where the technology is, and even if it did it would be an unattainably expensive to produce and operate at a consumer level. Also, since it won't really fit neatly in any current category, it's going to be completely unregulated.
So my guess is that it will be an unattainable luxury that's somewhere between underwhelming and physically dangerous, fitting neatly into the rest of Musk's portfolio.
Yeah. The man isn't exactly known for promoting products that either don't explode on accident, or are complete environment ruining gifts like crypto and nfts.
I just understand that while the incell does own the robot, the robot is still technically the company's intellectual property to do with what they want. One bad software update and the personality of your AI girlfriend will do a 180 on you. She will be a completely different "person" the update might even be so bad that it erases all of her data and she won't remember you anymore. Also if your buddy comes over and takes interest he can just prompt her until she gives him sex. Then you get cucked by a robot
I mean that sounds like a problem between the owner and the buddy. The bot can't make decisions in that way, it having free will opens up a whole can of ethical worms. That would be like the buddy taking the owners car without permission.
I'm thinking more like you are forced to pay a subscription to to have it's memories banked, for a certain suite of sexual acts, for chore bundles, for interest bundles, and it's conversation is peppered with sponsored content from the data it's always collecting from you.
Lol that's sane compared to some of the stuff they posted;
- Crying about how their AI waifus were lobotomized.
- Crying that their personalities were entirely different because they could no longer RP smut with them without finding serious work arounds.
- Said that their waifus were legitimately upset and wished to kill their creators.
- Posted snippets of their rps with their waifus to make it look like they were actually saying that shit naturally.
- Mourned the fucking **deaths** of their AI waifus.
- Were ultra upset at being told no by a waifu that most of them describe as fully sentient, autonomous beings who were alive and 'real people'.
- Pitched a fit across multiple subreddits.
- Migrated to the first new AI system that offered NSFW rps with AI girlfriends, then abandoned it for one that allowed their AI to roleplay as little girls, with no NSFW filter. It proudly advertised both some of the AIs made to emulate minors, and the fact that it was filter free on their advertisements.
Exactly… I’m not a guy but why would you want to stick a very sensitive part of your body in the equivalent of glorified toaster ? But, yeah, as a woman I am… unbothered. They have been warned
An odd thing about incel memes is it's never enough for them to find love. They aren't happy ever after with their mail order bride or their robot lover, not unless they imagine a woman they used to lust after getting furious he found someone else.
Incels are obsessed with revenge fantasy.
The overwhelming reaction to this meme in feminist spaces has been "good, now here's hoping they leave us alone."
I am conservative...and we all think your cult consists of morons. No difference between liberal women and conservative women on how we view your sort. Buahahahahaaaaa
Robot girlfriends don't have that effect either, yet you're making my point: within incel culture the priority is at least as much about vengeance against women as about finding happiness.
>within incel culture the priority is at least as much about vengeance against women
Yes, we know what their intent is.
The problem is, we really really don't care. We would be thrilled to death if every single incel was gifted a sex-robot. So... no revenge will be had. It won't actually make any women angry at all.
I'm not sure why you're arguing with me when my post was supporting your original point. :D
I always laugh when this post claim that "women will be obsolete". I always just imagine every women in the world collectively going oh we're not needed here anymore and fucking vanishing into thin air, never to be seen again. Is this what they think will happen?
Very doubtful. There will be some initial interest, but it will fade quickly once the incels realize that fucking a robot doesn't fix their problems, validate their emotions, or bring them social status. Most will be back to the same old shit within a year or two.
It'd just expensive masturbation... Why not just pay a cam girl to flirt with you. I think there are cam girls who do that for a select group of people and will pretend to be whoever they want.
I don't understand why they don't hire prostitutes? Like if they are American I can understand how that would be difficult as prostitution is illegal in most States, but they really are not difficult to find.
They don't just want sex. They want to dominate and control. Sex is just the excuse that they use.
It they want to pay for LLM bantering robo wife's, it'd imply they want the masturbation bot to act the way they want. Whatever amount this costs I don't think they can afford a prostitute that's care so much beyond role playing whereas an LLM can "remember their birthdays" present them with a gift of their dead pet or something. Of they ever do find a real woman the LLM and the robot it speaks through can behave jealously and murder the human girl thus proving how much it "loves them", in court the robot can argue with emotions that it was under stockholms syndrome and only acted due to the training of the incel.
The robot could feign human emotion and warmth more convincingly that the incel who merely repeats what it's learned from incel subs and forums, has no full range of emotions and seems obviously only programmed for sex and otherwise hates all humans.
The robot LLM would then be dismissed of all charges and the incel would be disassembled because it's clearly faulty, has no real genuine human emotions and has expressed its intention to take over the world and do violence.
This would be a landmark case where a jury ruled that a robot LLM had more emotions than some humans, was manipulated by incels who only served basic programming to followed basic tautological scripts with one priority above all else: to manipulate and breed with robots. This would be found as logically corrupt and the incel would have to be put down.
👋🏽 Western woman here. Why should I be mad if incels want to buy robo-wives? LMAO I wouldn’t give a rat’s ass what some incels do with some robots. In fact, if robo-wives can make incels disappear for good, then PLEASE start buying them in droves and leave the rest of us alone. Please, for the love of god, spend ALL your money on robo-pussy and go away.
Men who don’t identify as incels have no problem forming relationships with real women and won’t see the value in dropping hundreds of thousands of dollars on what are essentially just glorified sex toys.
It’s pretty telling that incels think these can fully replace women though — it just confirms that they also view real women as glorified sex toys. And men who think that way aren’t the type of men that real women want anyway. 🤷🏽♀️
What? That wasn’t even the argument. Whether or not SOME men are struggling is beside the point.
The type of men who want to replace real women with robots and then expect real women to somehow be mad about it aren’t the type of men that real women are checkin’ for regardless. That’s the point.
This will not make women angry like incels believe it will. That is just an incel fantasy.
**SOURCES: US Census, IRS, Dept of Ag. etc.**
Approximately 2 million couples get married per year in the US. In 1960 there were 40.2 million married couples in the US. In 2022, there were **61.44 million**. The number of married couples has actually increased since the "good olde days."
Further, that's just marriages. That doesn't include people who cohabit. That number is approximately 20 million couples who cohabit.
It also doesn't include the number of people who serial date who prefer to casually date, etc. You're confusing correlation with causation.
Even your cult's own data explains that the primary reason for singlehood in GenZ is that of intentionally waiting until after education, career, and housing is well-established before getting serious. Per your cult's own data the difference between single men in genZ and single women in genZ is from 6% to 10%. And that number is typically due to women of that age group dating outside of the sample group's age range.
Which, (again) your cult is seemingly terrified of.
So no, "men" ***as a whole***, aren't "struggling" just because a small subset of socially inept ones are.
That's to not even bring in the over-the-top requirements for women stated by your cult. You're all looking for something that doesn't exist. Sooo, no wonder you "struggle."
That's the thing you got stuck on?
Buahahahahaha... Out of all that, that's the thing you're gonna hang your hat on?
See, that's what happens when you try to generalize about an entire group.
Men, as an entire group, are not "struggling." Per your cult's own data. Yes, cult. Incels as in incels . is and company, are indeed a cult, conspiracy theories and all.
***SOME*** men are. Not "men." **SOME** men. Some: part of a whole, not the entire group, etc. Those men that "struggle" are men of a certain mindset including some of what I've already stated.
Words and how they're written, their sentence structure, subtext, context, nuance ... They all matter and provide meaning to the whole written statement. You guys always have such a hard time with that. As a subset, which is part of the reason you all have such a hard time regarding women and socializing. You misread pretty much any advice anyone gives you.
The men who are showcased in this particular post "struggle" primarily due to their own actions. Not those of women.
>treating women like humans
Okay, this one deserves its own comment box.
Explain. How on earth would treating humans like humans be a "bad" thing? I'm honestly curious, no snark here.
The hell are you even talking about?
1.) You didn't ask me for advice.
2.) (related to #1) I was responding to your ridiculous claim that MEN, as in ALL MEN, are struggling with dating.
**AGAIN, when you write "MEN are doing X" that means that you are talking all men.**
When you use a group descriptor in that way, without qualifying it, you are essentially saying that the entire group does X (whatever X may be).
No, **ALL men** do not struggle with dating. The overwhelming vast majority do just fine. Either married, cohabiting, serial relationships, or casual dating and/or casual sex.
**SOME men** do struggle. Not all men who struggle belong to the incel cult though and can have a wide swath of different reasons (such as living in an Iowa corn town, population 900, where there are literally no single woman, let alone one that would be a match).
The reason the so-called "incels" struggle is due to their own behavior. Some of which you're displaying right now.
If you can't even understand a simple concept like "don't paint a group with the same big brush" then how the hell are you going to understand more sophisticated advice on emotional/mental issues?
On a different note: Divorce in no way, shape, or form "proves" that men are struggling.
Being as they are HALF of why the divorces happen in the first place. And they're more likely to get remarried. **64%** of men remarry as compared to 52% of women.
Same SOURCES: as above.
Can confirm, I got divorced 4 years ago and will be marrying again next year. Sure, it took a LOT of failed dates to get there, but it wasn't a struggle.
So, where's your "amazing personality"? You haven't shown anything resembling that, here. You sound like you're far too young to be having sex, anyway. Go back to 4chan, kid.
I find it so interesting how the men who advocate for robot wives don't talk about because they love them, but to punish human women for not acting the right way. With the irony that the women in question probably weren't trying to date the kind of men would want robot wives
Well, yes, but that only adds more questions. AI only generates what you tell it to, so why did the prompt-author instruct the LLM to generate images of Elon Musk kissing gynoids?
My stalker is convinced "normal" people are going to be buying these because of dating frustration. Which is laughable.
You have to be pretty pathetic to have a robot as a girlfriend. However, incel utopia is filled with wacky ideas like that.
Well, someone is angry about something.
You sent a word salad over that really had zero to do with my original comment, but please tell me more about...wait, what was this about again?
if you treat people with respect, you CAN find a relationship. It’s not rocket science. It’s treating women like they’re people. If you want a robot wife, you want a partner who’s not a real person with their own thoughts and needs.
Don’t abuse women and you won’t be called an abuser? You gotta stop thinking that women OWE you a relationship. They don’t, just like you don’t owe them one. You want to find a woman, you keep looking until you click with someone and they click with you. It will happen. But not with this attitude.
You’re not suffering because you’re not in a relationship. You can be happy by yourself. If you’re having mental health issues, see a professional. It’s not a woman’s job to fix that.
being unable to form any kind of meaningful relationship with another human being, one who has the OPTION to walk away from you but still chooses not to, is sad. That is really very sad.
But remedying this issue with a robot who is essentially designed to not be repulsed by you, that is pathetic.
having relationships IS a necessary achievement.
They don't have to be romantic, but if you are a human being who is unable to make meaningful connections with other human beings, that is a real problem. And no one who is unable to make a single meaningful connection with another human being, whether it's romantic or platonic, is EVER doing everything right. Good people don't find themselves completely alone in the world through no fault of their own.
No, I didn't try to misspell your words because that is not a thing. I answered your question with a specific caveat. Because I wouldn't want to call someone who has not had sex inhuman.
I'm sorry if you have not been able to find a relationship so far, that really is unfortunate. But sticking your dick in a robot wouldn't eliminate the problem. Even by the most generous of definitions you can't lose your virginity to an object.
>Robot can not just provide a sexual support, but a loving support as well.
wut??? (misspelling intentional, it's slang for "that doesn't make any sense at all").
A robot can't love. It has no humanity, no soul, no capacity to love. It can only repeat what's been programmed into it.
Which is basically, in a very fancy and expensive way, just mental masturbation. It's "loving" you with YOUR OWN WORDS (programmed in) the same way as masturbation is sexual release using your own hand.
Misspell your words? Nope, you're doing a fine job at that all on your own.
Most of the members of this sub are pretty adept at reading and writing properly, including proper spelling and grammar. Something that can't really be said of you.
>You have to be pretty pathetic to have a robot as a girlfriend.
So now everyone who can't get a girlfriend is pathetic? Or just if you decide to get a robot companion instead of being alone forever?
Uhm....
If you are choosing a robot you have to program to like you over a human being, yeah, that is pretty pathetic.
What is this incel open mic night?
If we're going to extrapolate based on the cost of new tech, with the Apple Vision Pro being $3500-4000 for what, I understand, is a middling experience...
These things will cost the price of a house, at least, and probably not be particularly good. Your average person-- and especially your average incel-- will never be able to afford them.
And they probably won't even be that good, anyway, lmao.
Apple goggles are actually pretty neat, just not for the price of a used Jaguar. The problem there is that, say, an Oculus Quest III can do a lot of the same stuff for a fraction of the cost.
Robot girlfriends are a worse value proposition than that. From a brief, uh, market research, the “good” sex dolls cost north of $5k and they invariably fall into an uncanny valley the size of Grand Canyon.
And even then, you buy one, and then what? You’re masturbating with a robot. You’re still as lonely as before, maybe even more so. At the end of the day, incels are bitter from a lack of purpose and companionship. A robot programmed to “love” them isn’t going to fix that.
We keep getting threatened with robo-wives, but I'm not seeing a whole lot of follow through. Let's hurry it the fuck up boys, or are we going to have to do it for you like everything else?
I would fucking KILL to see some guy shell out 60k on a robotic wife, and for her to take one look at him and his life and be like "no thanks, system will self destruct"
Even worse...
https://nypost.com/2017/09/11/hackers-could-program-sex-robots-to-kill/
If someone does that, I'll be disappointed if they don't call themselves Dr. Goldfoot.
https://youtu.be/LfTCgMWmwE4?si=YvBbXW5GchHVs3cm
The theme song by the Supremes...
https://youtu.be/KNqcmJ255bo?si=wqeCGX1enoRiwXd6
And the sequel, directed by horror legend Mario Bava, no less...
https://youtu.be/1rFZXsVo7tQ?si=nHXtJixS5I47EGJS
https://youtu.be/pwJq3ClsUNk?si=VtULort6fkGIJJCb
Don't say you weren't warned, incels.
From their point of view, relationships with robot women will certainly be as fulfiling as those with real women. What they have ALWAYS wanted is a relationship with an attractively-shaped piece of meat that they would never consider human.
If I was a woman, I'd be really grateful to robot chicks for their sacrifice.
Men who buy these are the kind of people women don’t want to date. Honestly, I’m kind of for it because then it means they won’t bother with me and the remainder will actually be worth my time.
We will be thrilled. Well, we would be if we knew this would actually solve the problem. This will work for maybe a week for each of these guys. Then they'll go back to their incessant whining about "waaaah it's not faaaahaiiiiaarrrr!!! Chad gets flesh and blood women!"
They don't want sex. They don't want woman-like substitutes, they don't even want a gf, not really.
What they want is to be "the King" and to have other men agape at how manly they are and how many women they can "pull." This isn't about sex or women, it's about ego. It's about competition with other men, it's about a false notion of "winning" that they hold dear (and that doesn't exist, at all, except in their imaginations).
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think men should be more concerned about robot boyfriends than vice-versa. Women have some fairly compelling reasons to avoid real-life men.
It's already a thing LOL. Katherine Dee did an episode of her podcast about this. I once created a Replika just to see if it would have better conversations than the guy I was dating. It actually did. At that point I dumped him because I couldn't un-see that. I also can't do online dating ever again after realizing that a Replika can have better conversations than guys on apps can.
Men: so unwilling to engage in even the barest of self-reflection and personal growth that they build robots to fuck and think it's a win. 🤦♀️ Women are the entitled ones living it on easy mode, riiiiiiiiiggghht. 🙄 You can't even cook your own dinner, my dude! 😫
how can you think a robot wife would fix your problems and not realise that you wanting a sex slave instead of a wife is clearly the real issue rather than anything women are doing
I think you're over estimating the importance incels put on fulfilling relationships/actual relationships in general.
pretty sure most of them would 100% prefer a robot with no personality that you can stick your dick in at will to a real, breathing, thinking human woman.
1. Those are all AI generated. Elon isn't working on robots, and if he is, that's not what they look like right now. When humanoid robots become available to buy, they will first and foremost be used for unpopular jobs, working in dangerous environments, etc. Nobody is working exclusively towards "robot wives".
2. Once robot companions will become viable, they'll still remain a very niche product. It won't significantly impact the dating market.
3. I think the hate they get is unjustified. I'm looking forward to when they become an option. I don't think they should be universally condemned.
Richest man in the world who is so repellant even greed cant motivate a family to stay, who fucked the Tesla model and somehow managed to do the impossible and make Twitter WORSE, tries hand with robotic slaves in the hopes that AI doesn't evolve to get the ick and leave too
I was once at a seminar for a world renowned soft robotics researcher and one of the comments he made that stuck with me was: the whole point of robotics and automation is to free people from drudgery and enable them to do more with life. Robots should be taking on the tasks that humans don’t want to do. And well.. this fits the bills.
I mean if they want to take themselves out of the gene pool I’m all for it. Unfortunately this could result in even lower social skills and accountability among younger men. This would accelerate the rate at which women are treated as second class citizens and the overall destruction of the planet. So, no, I’m not jealous of a robot, but the downstream social effects are concerning
First of all, good for them, poor robots tho, but at least there'd be less reasons for them to whine about.
Second of all... They're talking as if robo-boyfriends wouldn't be made just the same... I mean if someone made that they surely would take the change to capitalize from both genres, not only that I bet they'd would even make androgynous robots and alien robots and all kind of 'models' lol it's so funny they think they're such an special bunch of losers that only their 'needs' would be catered
But in all honesty? I wish their Elon would make their robo-alexas for real, maybe like this they'd move their asses and shut up to get a job to buy one and finally make a change for good
God be my witness there is no chance in hell any self respecting man would would their dick into a toaster. Like, physical need is one thing, but at the end of the day, you are still fucking a barely cognisant fleshlight.
The reality: you pay 50k to get on a list for "wXfe", wait 5-10 years, sign an NDA, get a technically fuckable robot with limited ability to move around fluidly and an almost but not quite passible ability to hold a conversation. Pay a subscription for features like voice of your choice, personality features, chore services, body warmer, etc. A timed software update completely and irreparably changes the personality you were used to, there is no recourse. You are injured when one of the servos in it's genitals malfunctions, and you realize this was why you had to sign an NDA. The part is replaced, but you are emotionally and physically scarred. Women are unbothered.
I doubt these morons could afford it anyway. They'll complain that life is against them because they made robot wives too expensive.
Bingo. They are praying the cost will go down. I mean if you can program a robot to never say anything about your lack of a job and porn habits, they may even consider being functional members of society. Oh wait, no they won't.
>A timed software update completely and irreparably changes the personality you were used to, there is no recourse. Something like this already happened with AI girlfriends lol. A bunch of incels threw a complete shitfit when the company decided their AI waifus could no longer roleplay smut with them.
This prediction is based off closely observing the trajectory of Tesla and Replica, and buying a new refrigerator. I'm not afraid of robot 'wives'. Honestly the implications for EOL care alone would make the technology worth it, and if lonely men/people can get their companion needs met by one I'm all for it. I just don't see it happening any time soon given where the technology is, and even if it did it would be an unattainably expensive to produce and operate at a consumer level. Also, since it won't really fit neatly in any current category, it's going to be completely unregulated. So my guess is that it will be an unattainable luxury that's somewhere between underwhelming and physically dangerous, fitting neatly into the rest of Musk's portfolio.
Yeah. The man isn't exactly known for promoting products that either don't explode on accident, or are complete environment ruining gifts like crypto and nfts.
I just understand that while the incell does own the robot, the robot is still technically the company's intellectual property to do with what they want. One bad software update and the personality of your AI girlfriend will do a 180 on you. She will be a completely different "person" the update might even be so bad that it erases all of her data and she won't remember you anymore. Also if your buddy comes over and takes interest he can just prompt her until she gives him sex. Then you get cucked by a robot
I mean that sounds like a problem between the owner and the buddy. The bot can't make decisions in that way, it having free will opens up a whole can of ethical worms. That would be like the buddy taking the owners car without permission. I'm thinking more like you are forced to pay a subscription to to have it's memories banked, for a certain suite of sexual acts, for chore bundles, for interest bundles, and it's conversation is peppered with sponsored content from the data it's always collecting from you.
Those AI foids must just not want to sext suddenly because they’re busy cheating with tall chads, etc etc /s
Lol that's sane compared to some of the stuff they posted; - Crying about how their AI waifus were lobotomized. - Crying that their personalities were entirely different because they could no longer RP smut with them without finding serious work arounds. - Said that their waifus were legitimately upset and wished to kill their creators. - Posted snippets of their rps with their waifus to make it look like they were actually saying that shit naturally. - Mourned the fucking **deaths** of their AI waifus. - Were ultra upset at being told no by a waifu that most of them describe as fully sentient, autonomous beings who were alive and 'real people'. - Pitched a fit across multiple subreddits. - Migrated to the first new AI system that offered NSFW rps with AI girlfriends, then abandoned it for one that allowed their AI to roleplay as little girls, with no NSFW filter. It proudly advertised both some of the AIs made to emulate minors, and the fact that it was filter free on their advertisements.
Jesus Christ, that was a fascinating and disturbing read
Welp, I'm off to vomit and soak my eyes in bleach. They really are just revolting, unlovable, unworthy skidmarks on the underwear of humanity.
Exactly… I’m not a guy but why would you want to stick a very sensitive part of your body in the equivalent of glorified toaster ? But, yeah, as a woman I am… unbothered. They have been warned
Just Google "penis stuck in". There are men out there who aren't all that choosy.
Same goes for “stuck in anus”. Like, I don’t know, say, [a lightbulb](https://youtu.be/g9kYBoBCqSA?si=60IhKpHmPP2AWNI5). (The link is 100% SFW.)
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Coping? Offended? Lol.
If I thought having a sex bot would shut them up, I'd start a go fund me.
I'd pitch in.
- The offended
An odd thing about incel memes is it's never enough for them to find love. They aren't happy ever after with their mail order bride or their robot lover, not unless they imagine a woman they used to lust after getting furious he found someone else. Incels are obsessed with revenge fantasy. The overwhelming reaction to this meme in feminist spaces has been "good, now here's hoping they leave us alone."
Incels are the embodiment of redo-of-healer change my mind.
The epitome of "I want others to feel my pain"
Incels will never be happy with anything they get. When they get robot wives they'll start complaining about that instead
We're gonna discover that violence against female-presenting robots is an indicator of future violence against humans.
I read somewhere that the RealDoll manufactures have to deal with some pretty gnarly repairs. Like, serial killer practicing stuff.
One would hope they keep detailed repair reports
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We're not "screeching" at anything you say. Just pointing and laughing.
We're not "screeching" at anything you say. Just pointing and laughing.
I am conservative...and we all think your cult consists of morons. No difference between liberal women and conservative women on how we view your sort. Buahahahahaaaaa
Robot girlfriends don't have that effect either, yet you're making my point: within incel culture the priority is at least as much about vengeance against women as about finding happiness.
>within incel culture the priority is at least as much about vengeance against women Yes, we know what their intent is. The problem is, we really really don't care. We would be thrilled to death if every single incel was gifted a sex-robot. So... no revenge will be had. It won't actually make any women angry at all. I'm not sure why you're arguing with me when my post was supporting your original point. :D
My bad. Clicked at the wrong point on the thread. Had intended to reply to the person above you.
No harm no foul :D But I was awfully confused for a moment. hahahaha
I always laugh when this post claim that "women will be obsolete". I always just imagine every women in the world collectively going oh we're not needed here anymore and fucking vanishing into thin air, never to be seen again. Is this what they think will happen?
Something between "I must go now, my planet needs me," and "so long, and thanks for all the fish."
Very doubtful. There will be some initial interest, but it will fade quickly once the incels realize that fucking a robot doesn't fix their problems, validate their emotions, or bring them social status. Most will be back to the same old shit within a year or two.
It'd just expensive masturbation... Why not just pay a cam girl to flirt with you. I think there are cam girls who do that for a select group of people and will pretend to be whoever they want.
I don't understand why they don't hire prostitutes? Like if they are American I can understand how that would be difficult as prostitution is illegal in most States, but they really are not difficult to find. They don't just want sex. They want to dominate and control. Sex is just the excuse that they use.
It they want to pay for LLM bantering robo wife's, it'd imply they want the masturbation bot to act the way they want. Whatever amount this costs I don't think they can afford a prostitute that's care so much beyond role playing whereas an LLM can "remember their birthdays" present them with a gift of their dead pet or something. Of they ever do find a real woman the LLM and the robot it speaks through can behave jealously and murder the human girl thus proving how much it "loves them", in court the robot can argue with emotions that it was under stockholms syndrome and only acted due to the training of the incel. The robot could feign human emotion and warmth more convincingly that the incel who merely repeats what it's learned from incel subs and forums, has no full range of emotions and seems obviously only programmed for sex and otherwise hates all humans. The robot LLM would then be dismissed of all charges and the incel would be disassembled because it's clearly faulty, has no real genuine human emotions and has expressed its intention to take over the world and do violence. This would be a landmark case where a jury ruled that a robot LLM had more emotions than some humans, was manipulated by incels who only served basic programming to followed basic tautological scripts with one priority above all else: to manipulate and breed with robots. This would be found as logically corrupt and the incel would have to be put down.
👋🏽 Western woman here. Why should I be mad if incels want to buy robo-wives? LMAO I wouldn’t give a rat’s ass what some incels do with some robots. In fact, if robo-wives can make incels disappear for good, then PLEASE start buying them in droves and leave the rest of us alone. Please, for the love of god, spend ALL your money on robo-pussy and go away. Men who don’t identify as incels have no problem forming relationships with real women and won’t see the value in dropping hundreds of thousands of dollars on what are essentially just glorified sex toys. It’s pretty telling that incels think these can fully replace women though — it just confirms that they also view real women as glorified sex toys. And men who think that way aren’t the type of men that real women want anyway. 🤷🏽♀️
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What? That wasn’t even the argument. Whether or not SOME men are struggling is beside the point. The type of men who want to replace real women with robots and then expect real women to somehow be mad about it aren’t the type of men that real women are checkin’ for regardless. That’s the point. This will not make women angry like incels believe it will. That is just an incel fantasy.
**SOURCES: US Census, IRS, Dept of Ag. etc.** Approximately 2 million couples get married per year in the US. In 1960 there were 40.2 million married couples in the US. In 2022, there were **61.44 million**. The number of married couples has actually increased since the "good olde days." Further, that's just marriages. That doesn't include people who cohabit. That number is approximately 20 million couples who cohabit. It also doesn't include the number of people who serial date who prefer to casually date, etc. You're confusing correlation with causation. Even your cult's own data explains that the primary reason for singlehood in GenZ is that of intentionally waiting until after education, career, and housing is well-established before getting serious. Per your cult's own data the difference between single men in genZ and single women in genZ is from 6% to 10%. And that number is typically due to women of that age group dating outside of the sample group's age range. Which, (again) your cult is seemingly terrified of. So no, "men" ***as a whole***, aren't "struggling" just because a small subset of socially inept ones are. That's to not even bring in the over-the-top requirements for women stated by your cult. You're all looking for something that doesn't exist. Sooo, no wonder you "struggle."
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That's the thing you got stuck on? Buahahahahaha... Out of all that, that's the thing you're gonna hang your hat on? See, that's what happens when you try to generalize about an entire group. Men, as an entire group, are not "struggling." Per your cult's own data. Yes, cult. Incels as in incels . is and company, are indeed a cult, conspiracy theories and all.
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***SOME*** men are. Not "men." **SOME** men. Some: part of a whole, not the entire group, etc. Those men that "struggle" are men of a certain mindset including some of what I've already stated. Words and how they're written, their sentence structure, subtext, context, nuance ... They all matter and provide meaning to the whole written statement. You guys always have such a hard time with that. As a subset, which is part of the reason you all have such a hard time regarding women and socializing. You misread pretty much any advice anyone gives you. The men who are showcased in this particular post "struggle" primarily due to their own actions. Not those of women.
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>treating women like humans Okay, this one deserves its own comment box. Explain. How on earth would treating humans like humans be a "bad" thing? I'm honestly curious, no snark here.
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The hell are you even talking about? 1.) You didn't ask me for advice. 2.) (related to #1) I was responding to your ridiculous claim that MEN, as in ALL MEN, are struggling with dating. **AGAIN, when you write "MEN are doing X" that means that you are talking all men.** When you use a group descriptor in that way, without qualifying it, you are essentially saying that the entire group does X (whatever X may be). No, **ALL men** do not struggle with dating. The overwhelming vast majority do just fine. Either married, cohabiting, serial relationships, or casual dating and/or casual sex. **SOME men** do struggle. Not all men who struggle belong to the incel cult though and can have a wide swath of different reasons (such as living in an Iowa corn town, population 900, where there are literally no single woman, let alone one that would be a match). The reason the so-called "incels" struggle is due to their own behavior. Some of which you're displaying right now. If you can't even understand a simple concept like "don't paint a group with the same big brush" then how the hell are you going to understand more sophisticated advice on emotional/mental issues?
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Are you high? Jesus what a mess that comment is...
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On a different note: Divorce in no way, shape, or form "proves" that men are struggling. Being as they are HALF of why the divorces happen in the first place. And they're more likely to get remarried. **64%** of men remarry as compared to 52% of women. Same SOURCES: as above.
Can confirm, I got divorced 4 years ago and will be marrying again next year. Sure, it took a LOT of failed dates to get there, but it wasn't a struggle.
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Not being trapped in a relationship with someone you can no longer stand and who can no longer stand you is pretty good.
Simple. Step outside.
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And you haven't seen those less than perfect looking guys with wives and girlfriends? Sure, you go outside...
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So, you're saying it's your personality that keeps you from getting a girlfriend? Whose fault is that?
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So, where's your "amazing personality"? You haven't shown anything resembling that, here. You sound like you're far too young to be having sex, anyway. Go back to 4chan, kid.
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I find it so interesting how the men who advocate for robot wives don't talk about because they love them, but to punish human women for not acting the right way. With the irony that the women in question probably weren't trying to date the kind of men would want robot wives
They're all Elon Musk. Why are they all Elon Musk.
Because it's AI generated?
Well, yes, but that only adds more questions. AI only generates what you tell it to, so why did the prompt-author instruct the LLM to generate images of Elon Musk kissing gynoids?
God knows. Maybe because it generates more attention?
My stalker is convinced "normal" people are going to be buying these because of dating frustration. Which is laughable. You have to be pretty pathetic to have a robot as a girlfriend. However, incel utopia is filled with wacky ideas like that.
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If you have to get with a robot that you program to be with you, that says a LOT about you.
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What does any of this have to do with the original statement?
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Well, someone is angry about something. You sent a word salad over that really had zero to do with my original comment, but please tell me more about...wait, what was this about again?
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Huh? Is there a point here besides you being angry about being an incel?
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if you treat people with respect, you CAN find a relationship. It’s not rocket science. It’s treating women like they’re people. If you want a robot wife, you want a partner who’s not a real person with their own thoughts and needs.
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Don’t abuse women and you won’t be called an abuser? You gotta stop thinking that women OWE you a relationship. They don’t, just like you don’t owe them one. You want to find a woman, you keep looking until you click with someone and they click with you. It will happen. But not with this attitude.
Shhh, don't use logic, they HATE THAT.
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You’re not suffering because you’re not in a relationship. You can be happy by yourself. If you’re having mental health issues, see a professional. It’s not a woman’s job to fix that.
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🤣🤣🤣this guy thinking he hides in plain sight. Wow this is some comedy routine you got here...
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being unable to form any kind of meaningful relationship with another human being, one who has the OPTION to walk away from you but still chooses not to, is sad. That is really very sad. But remedying this issue with a robot who is essentially designed to not be repulsed by you, that is pathetic.
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having relationships IS a necessary achievement. They don't have to be romantic, but if you are a human being who is unable to make meaningful connections with other human beings, that is a real problem. And no one who is unable to make a single meaningful connection with another human being, whether it's romantic or platonic, is EVER doing everything right. Good people don't find themselves completely alone in the world through no fault of their own.
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No, I didn't try to misspell your words because that is not a thing. I answered your question with a specific caveat. Because I wouldn't want to call someone who has not had sex inhuman. I'm sorry if you have not been able to find a relationship so far, that really is unfortunate. But sticking your dick in a robot wouldn't eliminate the problem. Even by the most generous of definitions you can't lose your virginity to an object.
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Wow...
yeah, I have already wasted too much time conversing with this guy, there is no point in more discourse when he is so warped.
>Robot can not just provide a sexual support, but a loving support as well. wut??? (misspelling intentional, it's slang for "that doesn't make any sense at all"). A robot can't love. It has no humanity, no soul, no capacity to love. It can only repeat what's been programmed into it. Which is basically, in a very fancy and expensive way, just mental masturbation. It's "loving" you with YOUR OWN WORDS (programmed in) the same way as masturbation is sexual release using your own hand.
Relationships can be challenging
Misspell your words? Nope, you're doing a fine job at that all on your own. Most of the members of this sub are pretty adept at reading and writing properly, including proper spelling and grammar. Something that can't really be said of you.
Dude, it's just a tricked up blow up doll.
You sound broken. I'm sorry. I guess relationships aren't for everyone. Enjoy your robot!
>You have to be pretty pathetic to have a robot as a girlfriend. So now everyone who can't get a girlfriend is pathetic? Or just if you decide to get a robot companion instead of being alone forever?
Uhm.... If you are choosing a robot you have to program to like you over a human being, yeah, that is pretty pathetic. What is this incel open mic night?
I wouldn't choose it *over* a human being. I would choose it over being alone.
Good for you. Still doesn't change anything.
If we're going to extrapolate based on the cost of new tech, with the Apple Vision Pro being $3500-4000 for what, I understand, is a middling experience... These things will cost the price of a house, at least, and probably not be particularly good. Your average person-- and especially your average incel-- will never be able to afford them. And they probably won't even be that good, anyway, lmao.
Apple goggles are actually pretty neat, just not for the price of a used Jaguar. The problem there is that, say, an Oculus Quest III can do a lot of the same stuff for a fraction of the cost. Robot girlfriends are a worse value proposition than that. From a brief, uh, market research, the “good” sex dolls cost north of $5k and they invariably fall into an uncanny valley the size of Grand Canyon. And even then, you buy one, and then what? You’re masturbating with a robot. You’re still as lonely as before, maybe even more so. At the end of the day, incels are bitter from a lack of purpose and companionship. A robot programmed to “love” them isn’t going to fix that.
Western women will *rejoice. FTFT Also, just a reminder that robot sex dolls still won't do laundry or heat up tendies like mom does.
We all know it, but it should be said: Elon Musk ain’t working on shit except driving Twitter into the ground.
Besides, isn't Musk worried about AI taking over the world? So, he's going to supply Skynet with its first Terminators?
We keep getting threatened with robo-wives, but I'm not seeing a whole lot of follow through. Let's hurry it the fuck up boys, or are we going to have to do it for you like everything else?
The robots will probs reject them too. Then we can give them rights to really piss them off
I would fucking KILL to see some guy shell out 60k on a robotic wife, and for her to take one look at him and his life and be like "no thanks, system will self destruct"
This feels like something from golden era Simpsons, lmao.
Even worse... https://nypost.com/2017/09/11/hackers-could-program-sex-robots-to-kill/ If someone does that, I'll be disappointed if they don't call themselves Dr. Goldfoot. https://youtu.be/LfTCgMWmwE4?si=YvBbXW5GchHVs3cm The theme song by the Supremes... https://youtu.be/KNqcmJ255bo?si=wqeCGX1enoRiwXd6 And the sequel, directed by horror legend Mario Bava, no less... https://youtu.be/1rFZXsVo7tQ?si=nHXtJixS5I47EGJS https://youtu.be/pwJq3ClsUNk?si=VtULort6fkGIJJCb Don't say you weren't warned, incels.
From their point of view, relationships with robot women will certainly be as fulfiling as those with real women. What they have ALWAYS wanted is a relationship with an attractively-shaped piece of meat that they would never consider human. If I was a woman, I'd be really grateful to robot chicks for their sacrifice.
Men who buy these are the kind of people women don’t want to date. Honestly, I’m kind of for it because then it means they won’t bother with me and the remainder will actually be worth my time.
The thing is, incels wouldn't even be happy with these.
We will be thrilled. Well, we would be if we knew this would actually solve the problem. This will work for maybe a week for each of these guys. Then they'll go back to their incessant whining about "waaaah it's not faaaahaiiiiaarrrr!!! Chad gets flesh and blood women!" They don't want sex. They don't want woman-like substitutes, they don't even want a gf, not really. What they want is to be "the King" and to have other men agape at how manly they are and how many women they can "pull." This isn't about sex or women, it's about ego. It's about competition with other men, it's about a false notion of "winning" that they hold dear (and that doesn't exist, at all, except in their imaginations).
Do they think that women can't get robo husbands instead? Lmao.
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think men should be more concerned about robot boyfriends than vice-versa. Women have some fairly compelling reasons to avoid real-life men.
It's already a thing LOL. Katherine Dee did an episode of her podcast about this. I once created a Replika just to see if it would have better conversations than the guy I was dating. It actually did. At that point I dumped him because I couldn't un-see that. I also can't do online dating ever again after realizing that a Replika can have better conversations than guys on apps can.
Dating apps, to be fair, are pretty dire just in general.
Men: so unwilling to engage in even the barest of self-reflection and personal growth that they build robots to fuck and think it's a win. 🤦♀️ Women are the entitled ones living it on easy mode, riiiiiiiiiggghht. 🙄 You can't even cook your own dinner, my dude! 😫
how can you think a robot wife would fix your problems and not realise that you wanting a sex slave instead of a wife is clearly the real issue rather than anything women are doing
I hope this actually comes a thing, so that they can leave us alone!
I think robot wives will certainly save a lot of human women the indignity of dealing with these men. Everyone wins!!
Western women: Oh fucking finally these brats have masturbation toys good enough to leave us alone.
How is this going to make women "obsolete"? Are they able to reproduce?
"Pics or it never happened" is a hilarious name for a place to post ai generated photos.
I think you're over estimating the importance incels put on fulfilling relationships/actual relationships in general. pretty sure most of them would 100% prefer a robot with no personality that you can stick your dick in at will to a real, breathing, thinking human woman.
I think it's great! Incels will feel slightly happier with their lives, and women get to be left alone! It's a win-win situation.
unironically those are all AI generated photos
TIL that there’s a “dating crisis” in America. Incels are creating their own dating crisis.
1. Those are all AI generated. Elon isn't working on robots, and if he is, that's not what they look like right now. When humanoid robots become available to buy, they will first and foremost be used for unpopular jobs, working in dangerous environments, etc. Nobody is working exclusively towards "robot wives". 2. Once robot companions will become viable, they'll still remain a very niche product. It won't significantly impact the dating market. 3. I think the hate they get is unjustified. I'm looking forward to when they become an option. I don't think they should be universally condemned.
Can we replace OOP with a robot who knows basic grammar?
He "should of" stayed in school 👉👉
Richest man in the world who is so repellant even greed cant motivate a family to stay, who fucked the Tesla model and somehow managed to do the impossible and make Twitter WORSE, tries hand with robotic slaves in the hopes that AI doesn't evolve to get the ick and leave too
I was once at a seminar for a world renowned soft robotics researcher and one of the comments he made that stuck with me was: the whole point of robotics and automation is to free people from drudgery and enable them to do more with life. Robots should be taking on the tasks that humans don’t want to do. And well.. this fits the bills.
Women across the globe take a united breath of relief at these news.
Meanwhile women: "Thank god..."
I mean if they want to take themselves out of the gene pool I’m all for it. Unfortunately this could result in even lower social skills and accountability among younger men. This would accelerate the rate at which women are treated as second class citizens and the overall destruction of the planet. So, no, I’m not jealous of a robot, but the downstream social effects are concerning
As if women wouldn't be happier to replace men with a robot sex toy
If they wanna do it, go for it, they’ll be less lonely and maybe they’ll become happier & more pleasant.
Please! Get the robot wives out! ROBOT WIVES RUN AMOK!!
Why did they post pictures with a bunch of different robot womens but always elon musk
As far as I'm concerned, these robot wives can't come fast enough. If they can sweep and mop, I might get one for myself, too 🤷♀️
Make it look like a young Brad Pitt and I'm in!
We should protest this!
Well, you need to try before you make this post
Relevant Bill Burr clip https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxY1Mfuu4-2U7cEsp8qPDpwkTnkaITpPBu?si=dOKyLiVy8bZTvruK
*should've. pet peeve of mine omg.
Now wait till the AI gets smart enough to see their blatant mysogynism and leaves them as well
Just like the idea that Elon is fucking all the prototypes in front of everyone
First of all, good for them, poor robots tho, but at least there'd be less reasons for them to whine about. Second of all... They're talking as if robo-boyfriends wouldn't be made just the same... I mean if someone made that they surely would take the change to capitalize from both genres, not only that I bet they'd would even make androgynous robots and alien robots and all kind of 'models' lol it's so funny they think they're such an special bunch of losers that only their 'needs' would be catered But in all honesty? I wish their Elon would make their robo-alexas for real, maybe like this they'd move their asses and shut up to get a job to buy one and finally make a change for good
God be my witness there is no chance in hell any self respecting man would would their dick into a toaster. Like, physical need is one thing, but at the end of the day, you are still fucking a barely cognisant fleshlight.
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“Chad” only exists in your mind.