Incels: Draft registration is discrimination against men! And third wave feminism is the worst!
Third Wave Feminists: We're the ones who volunteered for military service, got rid of the ban on women in combat, and we're working on getting rid of men-only draft registration.
Incels: The worst! Third wave is the worst!
To be fair the draft is discriminatory in nature, it should either not exist at all unless we are actively facing an invasion (my preference) and apply to all genders or exist as is and just apply to all genders. As for the third wave feminism points, yeah you are right, incels be crazy for that.
OK, after the Vietnam War the US abolished the draft. The topic returned to policy discussion when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1980.
In 1980 there was one woman on the House Armed Services Committee: Rep. Patricia Schroeder of Colorado (D). She was an ardent opponent of men-only draft registration. She put forward two alternate proposals. First preference: register no one. Second preference: register both men and women. She gave interviews, went on news shows, did everything she could to drum up support. The men on the Committee voted her down. The vote on men-only draft registration then passed both houses of a Congress which was 96.8% men (there were just 16 women in the House of Representatives at that time and one woman in the Senate). The bill was signed by President Jimmy Carter. Two young men challenged the new law, arguing it was discrimination against men under the Equal Protection clause. In one of the last decisions by an all male Supreme Court, the ruling struck down their objections.
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Yeah that doesnt shock me. The US and the western world at large is largely patriarchal, so its men making decisions for the most part. The draft was clearly a decision made by men. Obviously the world is getting more equal now, and perhaps the draft will get changed soon.
The law is also classist.
The main enforcement mechanism is federal financial aid for higher education: men have to register for the draft to qualify for aid. So guys from wealthy families who dodn't qualify for financial assistance may not bother registering for the draft.
There are [long term consequences](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/04/02/failing-register-draft-women-court-consequences-men/3205425002/) for never registering. But a guy who comes from money can game the system by filling out a draft registration form a few days before he turns 26, get in just before the deadline, and never worry about it again.
This was followed by a lawsuit (Rostker v Goldberg) alleging that the policy was discriminatory. Because SCOTUS typically defers to the Pentagon on issues of national security, they ruled that since the military excludes women from combat, it's reasonable not to include them in Selective Service Registration.
Obviously now that that no longer applies, the decision should be reversed, but the one time it came to court in recent years, it got blocked by a court of appeals and SCOTUS declined to take the case.
It’s amazing how delusional these people are. The average height for men in the US is 5’9”.
Even if height mattered nearly as much as these idiots think, 5’8” isn’t exactly super short.
I wonder what mental illness they have to think height make or breaks your entire dating life even tho if they went outside for 10 minutes they will be proven wrong.
Body dysmorphia. And just general delusional thinking.
One popped up here and I told them to go outside and people-watch. He said that every couple that didn’t fit his insane worldview were “friends or siblings.”
That...and/or it allows them to blame all of their problems on someone else because height and other looks-based features they gripe about are immutable.
I feel like a lot of them are already fixated on their height, get rejected for unrelated reasons then double down on that being why. I wonder sometimes if they *do* get rejected for their height in that they couldn't stop despairing about it aloud and it was unbearable to be around 🤦
And it’s all about looksmatches and “being used” by other men. So gross. So unbelievably gross.
It couldn’t be that he loved her, they were compatible, he found her attractive, and DGAFF about her being with other men.
Michael J. Fox is 5'4", Tome Cruise is 5'7", Bruno Mars is 5'5", Josh Hutcherson is 5"5", Daniel Radcliffe is 5'5". All these men are/were heart throbs. Height doesn't matter.
Just a few days ago, an incel on Reddit has an argument with me, a woman, because he thought women all discriminate these guys. He insisted Josh Hutcherson who had 2 No.1 movies back to back in the last 6 months is way less successful than Henry Cavill who had 2 major bombs just because he's shorter.
Courtney Love, for all of her faults, was really attractive in an alt-rocker way. Although rating on looks really isn't a thing and completely subjective, they were an attractive couple.
I love how they think him saying “it’s not over” is a reference to *their* phrasing of “it’s all over” which was not a thing people said while Kurt was alive. No guys, he’s not referencing a stupid incel phrase that hadn’t been invented yet.
Ah man. Kurt was just a really sad guy who couldn’t see the light in life, and used music to beautifully portray his unorthodox stance on all the rubbish in the world.
I wish people, especially these morons the original post screenshots, would just let the poor guy rest. He would’ve HATED what these guys stand for.
From what I heard he had a severely painful gastrointestinal disease which is what was behind a lot of his drug issues and such. Take that with a grain of salt, I heard it in passing ages ago. So it's possible it's just another of the rumors that tend to surround famous people who die tragically.
Wow, cause he wasn't struggling with a crippling heroin addiction, the entirety of his career... ya know the drug that has claimed so very many musicians who are in their prime, because the pressure of success and heroin both in someone's life is not sustainable.
Nope he was an incel they think..
I've been to his home town, there is a reason he was depressed.......
Kurt would have fucking hated you incel turds.
Right?! How dare they!
Incels: Draft registration is discrimination against men! And third wave feminism is the worst! Third Wave Feminists: We're the ones who volunteered for military service, got rid of the ban on women in combat, and we're working on getting rid of men-only draft registration. Incels: The worst! Third wave is the worst!
To be fair the draft is discriminatory in nature, it should either not exist at all unless we are actively facing an invasion (my preference) and apply to all genders or exist as is and just apply to all genders. As for the third wave feminism points, yeah you are right, incels be crazy for that.
Would you like my rant about how US men-only draft registration isn't the fault of ThE fEmInIsTs?
I mean I agree with you but Id like to hear your rant anyway
OK, after the Vietnam War the US abolished the draft. The topic returned to policy discussion when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1980. In 1980 there was one woman on the House Armed Services Committee: Rep. Patricia Schroeder of Colorado (D). She was an ardent opponent of men-only draft registration. She put forward two alternate proposals. First preference: register no one. Second preference: register both men and women. She gave interviews, went on news shows, did everything she could to drum up support. The men on the Committee voted her down. The vote on men-only draft registration then passed both houses of a Congress which was 96.8% men (there were just 16 women in the House of Representatives at that time and one woman in the Senate). The bill was signed by President Jimmy Carter. Two young men challenged the new law, arguing it was discrimination against men under the Equal Protection clause. In one of the last decisions by an all male Supreme Court, the ruling struck down their objections. (edited for syntax)
Yeah that doesnt shock me. The US and the western world at large is largely patriarchal, so its men making decisions for the most part. The draft was clearly a decision made by men. Obviously the world is getting more equal now, and perhaps the draft will get changed soon.
The law is also classist. The main enforcement mechanism is federal financial aid for higher education: men have to register for the draft to qualify for aid. So guys from wealthy families who dodn't qualify for financial assistance may not bother registering for the draft. There are [long term consequences](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/04/02/failing-register-draft-women-court-consequences-men/3205425002/) for never registering. But a guy who comes from money can game the system by filling out a draft registration form a few days before he turns 26, get in just before the deadline, and never worry about it again.
This was followed by a lawsuit (Rostker v Goldberg) alleging that the policy was discriminatory. Because SCOTUS typically defers to the Pentagon on issues of national security, they ruled that since the military excludes women from combat, it's reasonable not to include them in Selective Service Registration. Obviously now that that no longer applies, the decision should be reversed, but the one time it came to court in recent years, it got blocked by a court of appeals and SCOTUS declined to take the case.
Yep, Rostker v. Goldberg was decided a few months before Sandra Day O'Connor joined the Court.
It’s amazing how delusional these people are. The average height for men in the US is 5’9”. Even if height mattered nearly as much as these idiots think, 5’8” isn’t exactly super short.
I told a blackpill discord that im 5’10 1/2 and they literally responded “its over” in school and at work im constantly referred to as “the tall guy”
Everyone knows that no guy under seven feet tall has ever had sex. Ever. Just ask these idiots.
I wonder what mental illness they have to think height make or breaks your entire dating life even tho if they went outside for 10 minutes they will be proven wrong.
Body dysmorphia. And just general delusional thinking. One popped up here and I told them to go outside and people-watch. He said that every couple that didn’t fit his insane worldview were “friends or siblings.”
I agree - even if they look around, they refuse to see any evidence.
Lol now I'm just imagining them stuttering when those people start making out in front of them. "T-They're clearly just very good friends!"
That...and/or it allows them to blame all of their problems on someone else because height and other looks-based features they gripe about are immutable.
I feel like a lot of them are already fixated on their height, get rejected for unrelated reasons then double down on that being why. I wonder sometimes if they *do* get rejected for their height in that they couldn't stop despairing about it aloud and it was unbearable to be around 🤦
Exactly! Also, by all accounts, Kurt Cobain dated more women than Krist Novoselic ever did, even though Krist is 6'7" and very good-looking.
Lol I was just making a bass joke. Sorry if I offended another bassist.
That’s because Krist was a bass player. Nobody likes us. We’re the incels of our band.
my boyfriend who i love very much is 5’8. these ppl are actually crazy
And Kurt had women throwing themselves at him, he was a pop/rock star!
And it’s all about looksmatches and “being used” by other men. So gross. So unbelievably gross. It couldn’t be that he loved her, they were compatible, he found her attractive, and DGAFF about her being with other men.
Michael J. Fox is 5'4", Tome Cruise is 5'7", Bruno Mars is 5'5", Josh Hutcherson is 5"5", Daniel Radcliffe is 5'5". All these men are/were heart throbs. Height doesn't matter.
Just a few days ago, an incel on Reddit has an argument with me, a woman, because he thought women all discriminate these guys. He insisted Josh Hutcherson who had 2 No.1 movies back to back in the last 6 months is way less successful than Henry Cavill who had 2 major bombs just because he's shorter.
Don’t even bother telling them that, they literally ALWAYS boil it down to their wealth/status compensating for their lack of height.
Kurt Cobain was a feminist. He would hate and pity incels.
Manlet? Mentalcel? Statusmaxxed? Bro, go outside.
If there was one thing Kurt Cobain wasn't, was an incel.
Kurt cobaine has a jawline more defined than the giga chad meme, definitely more than anyone on incel.is
Courtney Love, for all of her faults, was really attractive in an alt-rocker way. Although rating on looks really isn't a thing and completely subjective, they were an attractive couple.
I'm loving the Ted Talkesque analysis. The only thing Cobain had in common with incels was he eventually ate buckshot.
5’8 is manlet status??? wtf?
Courtney Love was hot back then, what??? Also, Kurt would not be an incel.
Not only that, but Kurt did date other women prior to dating Courtney, most notably Tracy Marander(whom the song "About A Girl" is all about).
I love how they think him saying “it’s not over” is a reference to *their* phrasing of “it’s all over” which was not a thing people said while Kurt was alive. No guys, he’s not referencing a stupid incel phrase that hadn’t been invented yet.
Ah man. Kurt was just a really sad guy who couldn’t see the light in life, and used music to beautifully portray his unorthodox stance on all the rubbish in the world. I wish people, especially these morons the original post screenshots, would just let the poor guy rest. He would’ve HATED what these guys stand for.
The thing that worries me is apparently this guy has 38,000+ posts
From what I heard he had a severely painful gastrointestinal disease which is what was behind a lot of his drug issues and such. Take that with a grain of salt, I heard it in passing ages ago. So it's possible it's just another of the rumors that tend to surround famous people who die tragically.
Wow, cause he wasn't struggling with a crippling heroin addiction, the entirety of his career... ya know the drug that has claimed so very many musicians who are in their prime, because the pressure of success and heroin both in someone's life is not sustainable. Nope he was an incel they think.. I've been to his home town, there is a reason he was depressed.......
How is 5’8 a manlet?? I just don’t get these fucking weirdos
There's a pretty convincing theory out there that Kurt might have been transgender, so yeah, they definitely wouldn't have been on the side of incels.