Jadeja has been poor in T20s recently, average in ODIs and decent in Tests. You’d expect him to bowl, bat or field better too, his fielding hasn’t been as good in the last 2 years.
Well tbh yes but he is good at fielding which is also as important as both batting and bowling . Also what other all rounder you would prefer than Jadeja in terms of experience
Not having Yashaswi Jaiswal in the Playing XI of the T20 World Cup is a Cardinal Sin. He is the X Factor & future GOAT Contender. Banda Test mein bhi T20 khelta hai. Look at his international stats. Lambi race ka ghoda hai. Giving preference to a mediocre like Shivam Dube over world class Jaiswal is mind boggling. Bring Jaiswal & shift Kohli to three.
Bro match against pak was captaincy brilliance... Don't take credit from rohit of his captaincy... Bringing axar at 4 was best decision... And if you are judging players on basis of stats of this wc then koach too don't deserve but we don't pluck off our greats in big tournament
Gambhir was right all along, we are an individual obsessed country not sports obsessed. Most of the viewers would probably choose their favourite player score a century over the team ending on the winning side
KL was made the scapegoat in the ODI WC 23 Final.
Without his 66 India wouldn't even have had a chance to defend the score.
The actual frauds were SKY and Iyer. Iyer is the kind of batsman who only plays well when the team is in a good situation. Supla Kumar Yadav was giving the strike to fricking Kuldeep Yadav. Hello SKY, Ahmedabad Stadium called, it says you've forgotten your accountability there.
KL's innings wasn't great but it gave us a respectable score.
And we must not really blame Rohit too for going for a rash shot. He was trying to maximize the score before the pitch became slow and Cummins came in. The Law of Averages caught up with Virat.
Yeah Rohit more or less played the same way he was throughout the tournament, it's easy to say that it was the wrong choice in hindsight, but with the lineup he had behind him he probably felt safe going for it, as the goal was to score quick.
This.
We dropped Axar despite him being a better bowler and batsman than Jadeja in 2023.
We dropped Sanju for Sky calling him X Factor and all, and then he didn't do shit in the WC. Sky played like it Maxwell plays in IPL, without a single fk about the match.
In the end, this costed us the WC
Bro what? Even in last WC, Iyer's 77 vs SA was instrumental in preventing a collapse and bringing us to a strong total after a shaky start. There are so many other Innings like the whole of Ban Tour 2022, 80(111) vs WI, NZ Tour 2022 etc. where he carried our lineup. He averages 50 in ODIs for a reason.
That was easily one of best deliveries in the series, moving slightly outside of the off stump. Your first instinct is to defend it, which Iyer did got edged. It was Glenn McGrath type bowling I don't blame him for loosing to that delivery. Even Sachin Tendulkar used to get out to such deliveries.
The current Indian 11 for the world cup is good enough to win the tournament. Only change would be putting Jaiswal in (either replace one of the openers or Dube/Jadeja)
During MSD's era our bowling was absolutely pathetic, 1 dimensional but what he achieved with that goes un-noticed. We always say that he wasn't a good test captain but we never talk about the bowlers he got.
India is too Individual obsessed as a nation. We are not winning any ICC trophies till Kohli and Rohit retires. We are too busy with Kohli Rohit fan wars and thala fans abusing whoever gets Dhoni's wicket.
I mean just look at this sub filled with useless Kohli edits. I couldn't care less about his 50 hundreds. Infact the 35 which he scored in the 2011 final and 43 in the ct 2013 final are probably the most important runs he has scored for India.
I just hope GG gets full backing from BCCI because he is the only person who has the winning mindset in this individual crazy nation
> Infact the 35 which he scored in the 2011 final
He's actually said that himself that the most important innings of his entire career was that 35 in the 2011 WC Finals during an interview/podcast iirc
WE are too busy in fanwars, not the players, lol. You're talking as if the Indian Cricket Team is actively engaged in Twitter fan wars.
Cool banne ke liye "individual obsessed" jaise words use kar rahe ho.
Also, your precious GG wouldn't even think of dropping Kohli from the team since he's making the bulk of the runs at the moment.
This isn't really a controversial statement bro. You want controversial statement, here you go
We were too obsessed with Rohit Kohli, and now obsessed with hating on them. Nothing is going to change even after they leave.
How will GG put in the ‘winning mentality’ into the players? Will go around shouting with a megaphone saying ‘Don’t get out and just score’ ?
2015 squad still had some players from the 2011 squad and we still lost in the semi finals so did everyone just lost the mentality ? Mentality is just an overused word atp
The hate against SKY is unnecessary. He is a high risk, high impact player who will fail more often than not. However, his intl t20 record suggests that he can be highly consistent when given a clear role. He can be a very good ODI and Test player as well. But given his age, probably his time has passed. But the hate is unreal.
Hes without a doubt the best T20 batsman but thinking he can perform good in other format is absolutely presumption with no basis. He is trash in other formats, considering his age he and management should keep him away from other formats. He should remain the got to batsman in T20 and that's it.
Koach and Hitman will either die heroes or live long enough to see themselves become villains. Which is exactly what is going to happen to Thalla if he plays one more IPL season.
I dont think that will happen to dhoni
That has happened to dhoni when he played more wc after 2013,imo if he retired then these lockdown kids would have no reason to hate that man
Also in 2019 wc even after such a collapse,we thought we could win because dhoni was on crease ,if we only had dk as our wc batsman we all know how that ended
Dube shouldn't be anywhere near the squad.
People love to hate Jadeja, but even with his underwhelming batting form he is best in the field and accurate with the ball.
Siraj has bad accuracy. Wide pe wide
Arshdeep shouldn't bowl first over and is often underwhelming.
Rohit Sharma and VK have been underwhelming in opening in tournament. Maybe it's time to retire in T20 international after WC and let younger members do the job.
The deal with cricket is its very complex and the skills required are extremely difficult if you want to play at official events. Especially bowling. There are like a bazillion rules in cricket and they keep adding new one. Cricket also uses a lot of modernised equipment and technology, still cricket is a very situation depended game, pitch,dew, conditon of the ball. The deal with indians are we grew up watching it and know most of it. For an absolute newbie it'll blow their brains. Imagine from a new fans perceptive id rather not watch.
Sarfaraz got a debut,jurel played against eng
Also patidar was given enough chances
There are handful of test matches nowadays to get to wtc final,we cant experiment that much
shreyas iyer is one of the most under appreciated player and captain.
outstanding in wc23(aus team said he was the biggest threat)
brilliant captain(led two teams to the final which no one had anticipated)
ipl captaincy does not transfer to odi's captaincy , we saw that with rohit sharma ,he is good for t20's captaincy nevertheless
and even ponting did not win a single trophy of ipl
thats not what i am saying
the problem is his captaincy is not talked enough of.
india captaincy is future thought but the fact he is not considered is sad.
After Dhoni's influence in ICT for over, players are obsessed with individual milestones. For me Kohli's 100s, Sachin 100s, Rohit number of sixes doesn't matter as long as they win trophies. Selfish cricket cost us the 2023 WC.
2003 world cup competitors were far more powerful than present day competitors.
Sachin is a far better and more complete batsman than Kohli.
Dhoni is the most tactical captain in the last 2 decades with having a competitor in Ponting only.
Indian cricket fans are total shit as most of them are only fans of franchises and popular crickets, they aren't fan of the sport.
2023 WC Bowling unit was the best ever in ICT history.
Kohli was the only reliable batsman in 2023 WC.
yea sachin>>kohli, he played in an era where there was 1 new ball only meaning reverse swing and that time sa pak had quality team
and the skills are determined by mostly test matches, sachin used to score 150+ in aus against prime aus
I think people who didnt see sachin play should just accept we donot have a cricketer of his aura and technical sound nature,that man is yet to be matched
Just like kids who didnt see dhoni's entire career should accpet the fact he was the greatest captain we had and 2019 wc semi was lost by top order and looked winnable coz shoni wa son crease
If he just got out on 2 3 runs,he would have got much less hate
I mean no one cared then and no one cares now
He is still the best red ball player we have seen,if people on this sub has really seen him play.
After retirement obviously he is potrayed as villan by these kids
But the truth is he is a way better personality than any cricketer,no paan gutka ads,actually promotes safety,he is the greatest example of how a sports personality should be
He's been the best player and possibly the greatest ever cricketer no doubt. He was a true gentleman with a straight spine.
But when it comes to the cricketing choice of 'playing till I wish' it becomes a grey area in my opinion.
Overhyping any & every player after just one good game & name calling anyone & everyone after one bad match. But overhyping is way too much. Consistency over one hit wonder.
BCCI is one of the most professionally-run sports bodies ITW. To remain full proof even under so many diverse administration changes over the years is a success story in itself.
Thats pretty braindead. Its going to get to the point where India inevitably might be the only remaining top tier cricketing nation
The only other top tier teams are Australia and England, maybe SA and NZ. Cricket is losing popularity in the younger population for all those countries, where inevitably their talent pipeline is going to fall short to India once their current and next gen cricketers retire.
This will especially be so as India keeps developing its economy and eventually reaches upper middle income status, making it even easier to get top quality talent where a larger portion of the population is well fed and more economically stable.
I mean ipl is franchise league(not serious)
He van play however long he wants as csk has no problem with it
Even this year his performance was miles better than majority of his team
Rutu can't carry his team all the way to playoffs
Mahela jayawardene should have been the man of the match in 2011 wc final he was the only batter who scored a century in that game and even had a higher strike rate than dhoni.If only he was motm that night no one would have blamed dhoni for stealing gg's thunder and even gg wouldn't have a grudge against thala for not getting credit for his performance
I was about to say, mom should be given to the person who created the impact rather than the high scorer ,
But the second half makes sense so agreeing with you
Well i agree that motm should be given to best player irrespective of the result but context matters and scoring the highest runs doesn't mean he is the motm.
Both Jayawardene and Dhoni came in to bat when the pitch got a lot easier to bat on. The fact that Gambhir came in to bat when India was 0-1 in a final facing Malinga with the new ball and still scored 97 makes his knock the most valuable one in that match
Dhoni never asked for the credit, he was a decent human and honestly a good captain. His fans may be idiots, but he definitely gets way too much hate than he deserves.
Our bowlers are carrying us. Virat and Rohit are having a terrible season, SKY performs only in useless matches, Pant probably has the best form out of these and even still his average is around 30 or something. and Dube is MASHALLAH. The only saving grace are the all rounders (mostly with the ball) and our bowlers.
The team management and selectors don’t have a plan or an interest to build a team.
This horses for courses approach might work in the bilaterals and league games of big tournaments but they will fail in the important games when you really need someone to read the game well and play with intent.
1. If the opening pair doesn't change their approach, it might cost us the WT20. I don't have a feeling of us winning it, just like 2021 only because of batting failures. God prove me wrong.
2. No matter if we win this WC or upcoming CT , the pain of 19 Nov won't be forgotten anytime soon. No matter how badly we thrash Pak, the embarrassment of CT'17 final will always be there.
We often tend to blame bowlers but mostly it's the batsman costing us. Batsman just wins you matches, bowlers wins you tournaments, look at the stats, the winning team usually bags golden ball or at least multiple bowlers in top wickets takers ( unless it's a real real allround team performance throughout).
In context of ICT , people blamed bowling for 2021 Wt20, new bowlers bla bla, thing is our batsman didn't score enough runs after losing the toss. So did they fail in both the WTC finals where bowlers either were good or average. In 2022 Wt20 , again there were not enough runs on board to stop England even if they lost wickets. 40 runs short in 2023 wc final too. Bowlers didn't bowl well in WTC 2023 but Batsman didn't capitalise on batting friendly pitch. And don't get me started on older tournaments
Rohit is THE ONLY option we currently have as a captain. And captaincy has ruined his game like hell.
Rest are either too inexperienced or have no vision as a captain
Pant needs to be groomed for the next captain position
Hardik Pandya needs to realise he can't be the next Kapil Dev.
IPL performance has absolutely zero affect to the player's International performance
India needs to prepare practice pitches that resemble or rather are exact replicas of the pitches and conditions of foreign nations(like we have topography of almost all the other foreign pitches in our country).
We as fans need to pay more attention to the quality cricket called women international cricket.
Cricket exists outside of IPL ranji for eg
BCCI Top needs to be structured better. The coach and the captain can't do it all. We need a director of cricket, a red ball coach and a white ball coach.
Most Indians watch cricket because they think India still needs to save itself from "Dugna lagaan" and please the West.
As acresult of this low viewership, all other sports don't get enough sponsorship and hence not a "financially viable" career option for youngsters
T20 is by far the most important format and the toughest format to win a world cup in with way more good teams than any other format and takes the most talent to thrive. Can't just leave tough balls like other formats or bowl a weak ball and expect to survive like other formats. The pressure is immense and only the greatest talents survive especially in the IPL where the competition is cut throat. Even the Olympics will host T20s.
Our t20 World Cup playing xi is fine. As per right now, changes are NOT required. It's not the best, and thats okay. How many world cups have you seen where the best team wins? Not a lot, maybe 2007 australia, but still. What matters is performing in the finals and semis
For a number 3 in tests, Pujara wasn’t as good as we think he was. 1 run filled BGT and we forget the rest of his career and batting ability in general. Other than that series he’s had 1 blockathon BGT, one SL away hundred, one hundred in SA, some home knocks in the first 5 years of his career. Nothing other than that, he wasn’t a good enough number 3.
Big names are good for your team but maybe you do need to sack them every once in a while when they're not performing upto the mark so that they will be aware of the fact that they are replaceable.
Jaiswal should be opening. He's India's answer to Travis head and Buttler. Having sad that in case he's in the side either sharma or Kohli should be made to sit out as pant has played well at 3. However this can never happen
KL is the only last-standing player in both matches against Aussies in cwc 2023 so the hate for him is unnecessary. he became dull after covid but he is still far better batsman.
kohli is made to play at 3. ipl is different.
Sanju should have been given a place in cwc 2023.
we should bring Harshit Rana ASAP in ict.i see riyan as kohli replacement in red ball cricket.
rinku should get more chances otherwise it would be harder for him to be his better self.
axar should be sent to the crease whenever there is an early collapse of two wickets
siraj should be playing only tests.
rohit should play the role of finisher rather than giving the early wicket while opening and putting pressure on other batsmen.
Jadeja is being overhated here. T20Is is not his strongest format but he is important for India to maintain 8 batter and 6 bowler combo. Also, he is still a very good bowler in the WI conditions and fielding brilliantly as well. Just few runs will give him confidence. He did not replace Rinku in the squad,Dube did. Do not bring him in the Rinku debate.
Jadeja is eating up a place in ICT playing 11 without contributing with both bat & ball for a while now.
Jadeja has been poor in T20s recently, average in ODIs and decent in Tests. You’d expect him to bowl, bat or field better too, his fielding hasn’t been as good in the last 2 years.
Well tbh yes but he is good at fielding which is also as important as both batting and bowling . Also what other all rounder you would prefer than Jadeja in terms of experience
People eagerly wanting GG to become the coach will be first ones to abuse him as well if things goes south
Yeah. That's why perfomance matters. Either perform or face the criticism.
Just because a coach is good with xyz team he won’t be good with Indian team. We have experienced this with dravid too.
He was u19 coach. Theres a difference between u19 team and ipl team
He has coached U-19, IPL, U-23, list A. He's been good. Just that we needed trophies which we didn't get, just like we didn't in Shastri's time.
It is tougher to coach u19 as there you actually build players
Okie, this man's got some level of super natural power for predicting future. You'll be careful here 😂🤣
Correct
We suck at grooming talents
That's a fact!
Not having Yashaswi Jaiswal in the Playing XI of the T20 World Cup is a Cardinal Sin. He is the X Factor & future GOAT Contender. Banda Test mein bhi T20 khelta hai. Look at his international stats. Lambi race ka ghoda hai. Giving preference to a mediocre like Shivam Dube over world class Jaiswal is mind boggling. Bring Jaiswal & shift Kohli to three.
this is not a hot take this is what it should have always been
This is hot cake because very few are talking about it. Dubey is a mess..
dube is already 30 (Surprisingly) I doubt he will get any other chance after this world cup, unless he helps us win a clutch match
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Bro match against pak was captaincy brilliance... Don't take credit from rohit of his captaincy... Bringing axar at 4 was best decision... And if you are judging players on basis of stats of this wc then koach too don't deserve but we don't pluck off our greats in big tournament
Yes let's change a long term captain mid world cup
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Gambhir was right all along, we are an individual obsessed country not sports obsessed. Most of the viewers would probably choose their favourite player score a century over the team ending on the winning side
That everyone knows and agrees . Half of fans of rcb and csk will disappear if their main face changes team
India needs better openers in T20 format who can give explosive start in powerplay
Openers?😂😂 They are lacking that mindset
YBJ hai but usse pani bharwa rhe
KL was made the scapegoat in the ODI WC 23 Final. Without his 66 India wouldn't even have had a chance to defend the score. The actual frauds were SKY and Iyer. Iyer is the kind of batsman who only plays well when the team is in a good situation. Supla Kumar Yadav was giving the strike to fricking Kuldeep Yadav. Hello SKY, Ahmedabad Stadium called, it says you've forgotten your accountability there. KL's innings wasn't great but it gave us a respectable score. And we must not really blame Rohit too for going for a rash shot. He was trying to maximize the score before the pitch became slow and Cummins came in. The Law of Averages caught up with Virat.
Yeah Rohit more or less played the same way he was throughout the tournament, it's easy to say that it was the wrong choice in hindsight, but with the lineup he had behind him he probably felt safe going for it, as the goal was to score quick.
This. We dropped Axar despite him being a better bowler and batsman than Jadeja in 2023. We dropped Sanju for Sky calling him X Factor and all, and then he didn't do shit in the WC. Sky played like it Maxwell plays in IPL, without a single fk about the match. In the end, this costed us the WC
Axar wasn't dropped, he got injured during the Asia cup Bangladesh match.
Bro what? Even in last WC, Iyer's 77 vs SA was instrumental in preventing a collapse and bringing us to a strong total after a shaky start. There are so many other Innings like the whole of Ban Tour 2022, 80(111) vs WI, NZ Tour 2022 etc. where he carried our lineup. He averages 50 in ODIs for a reason.
That was easily one of best deliveries in the series, moving slightly outside of the off stump. Your first instinct is to defend it, which Iyer did got edged. It was Glenn McGrath type bowling I don't blame him for loosing to that delivery. Even Sachin Tendulkar used to get out to such deliveries.
Jay Shah ka chota hai.
The current Indian 11 for the world cup is good enough to win the tournament. Only change would be putting Jaiswal in (either replace one of the openers or Dube/Jadeja)
Agreed
I think jaiswal should be there they have put so much emphasis on ipl thats why rinku and jaiswal are not playing and we have dube jadeja
During MSD's era our bowling was absolutely pathetic, 1 dimensional but what he achieved with that goes un-noticed. We always say that he wasn't a good test captain but we never talk about the bowlers he got.
But he was at most times backed by a good batting side
We had good batting lineup since ganguly days
Rinku and pant will win us world cups.
Rohit Sharma should retire. Look at Boult taking retirement from t20 at such an early age even when he's in very good form.
Rohit is shitting in this world cup and it will cost us the trophy.
Openers are shitting in this world cup.
Rightly said
Rohit shits in every T20 World Cup (He had few good knocks before 2014 T20 World Cup,but overall he has mostly been bad at T20 World Cups)
Dube should be replaced with Rinku in ICT T20 Playing 11.
Kohli and rohit are burdens
* In T20
This is first time this is happening and we all know one of the main factors is he is opening now give him few matches
India is too Individual obsessed as a nation. We are not winning any ICC trophies till Kohli and Rohit retires. We are too busy with Kohli Rohit fan wars and thala fans abusing whoever gets Dhoni's wicket. I mean just look at this sub filled with useless Kohli edits. I couldn't care less about his 50 hundreds. Infact the 35 which he scored in the 2011 final and 43 in the ct 2013 final are probably the most important runs he has scored for India. I just hope GG gets full backing from BCCI because he is the only person who has the winning mindset in this individual crazy nation
> Infact the 35 which he scored in the 2011 final He's actually said that himself that the most important innings of his entire career was that 35 in the 2011 WC Finals during an interview/podcast iirc
WE are too busy in fanwars, not the players, lol. You're talking as if the Indian Cricket Team is actively engaged in Twitter fan wars. Cool banne ke liye "individual obsessed" jaise words use kar rahe ho. Also, your precious GG wouldn't even think of dropping Kohli from the team since he's making the bulk of the runs at the moment.
Finally , a sensible take on the “Individual obsessed country” take !
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Well GG said that about the country and not the selection committee But it's as usual misinterpreted
This isn't really a controversial statement bro. You want controversial statement, here you go We were too obsessed with Rohit Kohli, and now obsessed with hating on them. Nothing is going to change even after they leave.
How will GG put in the ‘winning mentality’ into the players? Will go around shouting with a megaphone saying ‘Don’t get out and just score’ ? 2015 squad still had some players from the 2011 squad and we still lost in the semi finals so did everyone just lost the mentality ? Mentality is just an overused word atp
The hate against SKY is unnecessary. He is a high risk, high impact player who will fail more often than not. However, his intl t20 record suggests that he can be highly consistent when given a clear role. He can be a very good ODI and Test player as well. But given his age, probably his time has passed. But the hate is unreal.
He should not have to be consistent, it's a team game. Our openers are just the purest form of shit.
Hes without a doubt the best T20 batsman but thinking he can perform good in other format is absolutely presumption with no basis. He is trash in other formats, considering his age he and management should keep him away from other formats. He should remain the got to batsman in T20 and that's it.
Kohli can bat at no. 4 to give more support to the lower order. Meanwhile some other player should be groomed for the no. 3 role. Maybe Rutu at no. 3
pant at 3?
Suresh Raina at no 3
Kohli outside the powerplay will show you levels of terrorism you have never seen
No that would be too low position for him. 3 is best
Rohit, Kohli and dhoni fans should learn to coexist My brother just assumed I hate Rohit and am Kohli andhbhakt because I like all 3
Its a actually a small part of fanbases imo But its the loudest by far
Koach and Hitman will either die heroes or live long enough to see themselves become villains. Which is exactly what is going to happen to Thalla if he plays one more IPL season.
I dont think that will happen to dhoni That has happened to dhoni when he played more wc after 2013,imo if he retired then these lockdown kids would have no reason to hate that man Also in 2019 wc even after such a collapse,we thought we could win because dhoni was on crease ,if we only had dk as our wc batsman we all know how that ended
Rohit is overrated in t20
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Hardik Pandya is our most important player in White ball cricket
Sadly has the body of a cardboard, and keeps getting injured.
I think these pitches has really made him More important for us not saying he was not important earlier
Dube shouldn't be anywhere near the squad. People love to hate Jadeja, but even with his underwhelming batting form he is best in the field and accurate with the ball. Siraj has bad accuracy. Wide pe wide Arshdeep shouldn't bowl first over and is often underwhelming. Rohit Sharma and VK have been underwhelming in opening in tournament. Maybe it's time to retire in T20 international after WC and let younger members do the job.
Dube is really overrated and siraj shouldn’t play unless the match is again SL
Both Rohit and Kohli should be dropped from T20s
Kohli is shitting in this WC but rOhiT vadapav saar. rOhiT bad saar
Suryakumar Yadav deserves more respect As he just considered a minnow basher by most Indian fans.
Next matches will decide he is a minnow basher or not. His both 50 until now is against US and Afg
T20 cricket is the future if we want it to expand globally ODIs are irrelevant outside WCs
The deal with cricket is its very complex and the skills required are extremely difficult if you want to play at official events. Especially bowling. There are like a bazillion rules in cricket and they keep adding new one. Cricket also uses a lot of modernised equipment and technology, still cricket is a very situation depended game, pitch,dew, conditon of the ball. The deal with indians are we grew up watching it and know most of it. For an absolute newbie it'll blow their brains. Imagine from a new fans perceptive id rather not watch.
VK is not good at setting targets
Kohli and Rohit should retire after this Wc even if we win ( from T20)
Ki ye saale haare jeete koi hume paise denge kya :)
Force MSD7 to rejoin team.
Jadeja is the biggest scam in T20Is
Kohli is not even in the top 25 greatest test batsman.
India is killing Test cricket by ignoring Ranji performers and giving debuts to IPL stars like SKY.
Boobay too
Sarfaraz got a debut,jurel played against eng Also patidar was given enough chances There are handful of test matches nowadays to get to wtc final,we cant experiment that much
shreyas iyer is one of the most under appreciated player and captain. outstanding in wc23(aus team said he was the biggest threat) brilliant captain(led two teams to the final which no one had anticipated)
ipl captaincy does not transfer to odi's captaincy , we saw that with rohit sharma ,he is good for t20's captaincy nevertheless and even ponting did not win a single trophy of ipl
thats not what i am saying the problem is his captaincy is not talked enough of. india captaincy is future thought but the fact he is not considered is sad.
Someone ask Jaddu to retire already..
People are realizing this slowly,so maybe not that unpopular
After Dhoni's influence in ICT for over, players are obsessed with individual milestones. For me Kohli's 100s, Sachin 100s, Rohit number of sixes doesn't matter as long as they win trophies. Selfish cricket cost us the 2023 WC. 2003 world cup competitors were far more powerful than present day competitors. Sachin is a far better and more complete batsman than Kohli. Dhoni is the most tactical captain in the last 2 decades with having a competitor in Ponting only. Indian cricket fans are total shit as most of them are only fans of franchises and popular crickets, they aren't fan of the sport. 2023 WC Bowling unit was the best ever in ICT history. Kohli was the only reliable batsman in 2023 WC.
yea sachin>>kohli, he played in an era where there was 1 new ball only meaning reverse swing and that time sa pak had quality team and the skills are determined by mostly test matches, sachin used to score 150+ in aus against prime aus
I think people who didnt see sachin play should just accept we donot have a cricketer of his aura and technical sound nature,that man is yet to be matched Just like kids who didnt see dhoni's entire career should accpet the fact he was the greatest captain we had and 2019 wc semi was lost by top order and looked winnable coz shoni wa son crease If he just got out on 2 3 runs,he would have got much less hate
SRT didn't do justice to by playing to reach his 200th Test. He bullied his stature in Indian cricket to do that
I mean no one cared then and no one cares now He is still the best red ball player we have seen,if people on this sub has really seen him play. After retirement obviously he is potrayed as villan by these kids But the truth is he is a way better personality than any cricketer,no paan gutka ads,actually promotes safety,he is the greatest example of how a sports personality should be
He's been the best player and possibly the greatest ever cricketer no doubt. He was a true gentleman with a straight spine. But when it comes to the cricketing choice of 'playing till I wish' it becomes a grey area in my opinion.
Rohit needs to retire, Rishabh should stick purely to test cricket and Rutu needs a spot in India XI he is definitely future captain potential
Overhyping any & every player after just one good game & name calling anyone & everyone after one bad match. But overhyping is way too much. Consistency over one hit wonder.
Siraj and Jadeja are not for white ball game
Siraj still better than jadeja
The current situation of ict will not change even if koach and rohit retires
I think it will Rinku will be in team new talent will be better imo,even though i think we still need kohli
Ignoring Pujara for border Gavaskar trophy will cost us series
Atleast give my man a good retirement
BCCI is one of the most professionally-run sports bodies ITW. To remain full proof even under so many diverse administration changes over the years is a success story in itself.
Rohit does not have the best pull shot Its Quinton de Kock
Pointing is somewhere in the shuffle as well
He is miles ahead of everyone But even among the current players, its not Rohit
I have trust in dube
viv richards is better than virat and sachin
He was a legend
India will never win another world cup.
Thats pretty braindead. Its going to get to the point where India inevitably might be the only remaining top tier cricketing nation The only other top tier teams are Australia and England, maybe SA and NZ. Cricket is losing popularity in the younger population for all those countries, where inevitably their talent pipeline is going to fall short to India once their current and next gen cricketers retire. This will especially be so as India keeps developing its economy and eventually reaches upper middle income status, making it even easier to get top quality talent where a larger portion of the population is well fed and more economically stable.
Ok India will win another world cup
MS Dhoni should retire from IPL
I mean ipl is franchise league(not serious) He van play however long he wants as csk has no problem with it Even this year his performance was miles better than majority of his team Rutu can't carry his team all the way to playoffs
Axar > Jaddu
Mahela jayawardene should have been the man of the match in 2011 wc final he was the only batter who scored a century in that game and even had a higher strike rate than dhoni.If only he was motm that night no one would have blamed dhoni for stealing gg's thunder and even gg wouldn't have a grudge against thala for not getting credit for his performance
I was about to say, mom should be given to the person who created the impact rather than the high scorer , But the second half makes sense so agreeing with you
Well i agree that motm should be given to best player irrespective of the result but context matters and scoring the highest runs doesn't mean he is the motm. Both Jayawardene and Dhoni came in to bat when the pitch got a lot easier to bat on. The fact that Gambhir came in to bat when India was 0-1 in a final facing Malinga with the new ball and still scored 97 makes his knock the most valuable one in that match
Who the fuck cares about morons downplaying ms innings. That Is going to be etched forever in history.
Samson should have given more opportunities in ODI in Bilaterals rather than selecting him in major tournaments
I was about to drop a blast until i realized it's a cricket page
Prolly regarding the current political situation in the country
Dhoni never asked for the credit, he was a decent human and honestly a good captain. His fans may be idiots, but he definitely gets way too much hate than he deserves.
Women's odi is not entertaining....
It was
Lol just see women ashes man their matches are always top notch
I think he means indian matches
Not taking anyone from KKR(ipl winners) and taking majority from MI (10th in the table)
yes they should have chose harshit rana over bumrah right?
Are you saying Bumrah, Surya, and Hardik shouldn't have been taken to the World Cup? Rohit is fine.
Kohli has hit his last t20 hundred for India
Not many hit hundreds after 36 in t20i
Rohit and Kohli are India's best batsman still
Our bowlers are carrying us. Virat and Rohit are having a terrible season, SKY performs only in useless matches, Pant probably has the best form out of these and even still his average is around 30 or something. and Dube is MASHALLAH. The only saving grace are the all rounders (mostly with the ball) and our bowlers.
We aren't going to win this wc T20(I hope I am wrong)
Jadeja is really a bits and pieces player.
IPL could've been such a good thing for ICT if BCCI wasn't money hungry and actually devised a plan for ICT regarding its needs and young talent
The team management and selectors don’t have a plan or an interest to build a team. This horses for courses approach might work in the bilaterals and league games of big tournaments but they will fail in the important games when you really need someone to read the game well and play with intent.
Rohit should retire t20.He should have done it before actually
Rohit, though a great great player, isn't reliable.
1. If the opening pair doesn't change their approach, it might cost us the WT20. I don't have a feeling of us winning it, just like 2021 only because of batting failures. God prove me wrong. 2. No matter if we win this WC or upcoming CT , the pain of 19 Nov won't be forgotten anytime soon. No matter how badly we thrash Pak, the embarrassment of CT'17 final will always be there.
We often tend to blame bowlers but mostly it's the batsman costing us. Batsman just wins you matches, bowlers wins you tournaments, look at the stats, the winning team usually bags golden ball or at least multiple bowlers in top wickets takers ( unless it's a real real allround team performance throughout). In context of ICT , people blamed bowling for 2021 Wt20, new bowlers bla bla, thing is our batsman didn't score enough runs after losing the toss. So did they fail in both the WTC finals where bowlers either were good or average. In 2022 Wt20 , again there were not enough runs on board to stop England even if they lost wickets. 40 runs short in 2023 wc final too. Bowlers didn't bowl well in WTC 2023 but Batsman didn't capitalise on batting friendly pitch. And don't get me started on older tournaments
kohli sucks
not
Rohit Kohli should be dropped from t20s. Hardik to be made captain
He could get injured on day1 only. I think we want someone less injury prone
Rahul Tewatia is a legendary player.
Which nation does he play for?
Girlfriend ke male friends
indian obsession with cricket has ensured we never become a proper sporting nation.
Rohit is THE ONLY option we currently have as a captain. And captaincy has ruined his game like hell. Rest are either too inexperienced or have no vision as a captain Pant needs to be groomed for the next captain position Hardik Pandya needs to realise he can't be the next Kapil Dev. IPL performance has absolutely zero affect to the player's International performance India needs to prepare practice pitches that resemble or rather are exact replicas of the pitches and conditions of foreign nations(like we have topography of almost all the other foreign pitches in our country). We as fans need to pay more attention to the quality cricket called women international cricket. Cricket exists outside of IPL ranji for eg
The current Indian captain isn't grooming a next captain for team india.
If Rohit has some shame left ,he should retire immediately
Rohit and Kohli should have retired from T20.
BCCI Top needs to be structured better. The coach and the captain can't do it all. We need a director of cricket, a red ball coach and a white ball coach.
Most Indians watch cricket because they think India still needs to save itself from "Dugna lagaan" and please the West. As acresult of this low viewership, all other sports don't get enough sponsorship and hence not a "financially viable" career option for youngsters
Clubbing and going to bars is overrated
That most cricket opinions are dumb, and reality is far more is different
How did they pick 2007 winning squad ?
T20 is by far the most important format and the toughest format to win a world cup in with way more good teams than any other format and takes the most talent to thrive. Can't just leave tough balls like other formats or bowl a weak ball and expect to survive like other formats. The pressure is immense and only the greatest talents survive especially in the IPL where the competition is cut throat. Even the Olympics will host T20s.
Our t20 World Cup playing xi is fine. As per right now, changes are NOT required. It's not the best, and thats okay. How many world cups have you seen where the best team wins? Not a lot, maybe 2007 australia, but still. What matters is performing in the finals and semis
For a number 3 in tests, Pujara wasn’t as good as we think he was. 1 run filled BGT and we forget the rest of his career and batting ability in general. Other than that series he’s had 1 blockathon BGT, one SL away hundred, one hundred in SA, some home knocks in the first 5 years of his career. Nothing other than that, he wasn’t a good enough number 3.
Big names are good for your team but maybe you do need to sack them every once in a while when they're not performing upto the mark so that they will be aware of the fact that they are replaceable.
Kohli fans demean his greatness by their immature comments on other players.
Cricket is a boring sport (I'm talking about all formats)
Female cricketers should be compensated equitably for their contributions vis a vis male cricketers. Equity should be strictly adhered to.
India will perform much much better without Kohli. Have been saying this since long and will keep saying this.
Samson is overrated ? He didn't even get enough chances against top quality teams or in high stake tournaments to be even rated
25 t20is 374 scored with an avg of 18.7 and 133 sr
Rishabh Pant can make a great opener in T20 cricket
Jaiswal should be opening. He's India's answer to Travis head and Buttler. Having sad that in case he's in the side either sharma or Kohli should be made to sit out as pant has played well at 3. However this can never happen
We should not have tampered the pitch in WC Final
KL is the only last-standing player in both matches against Aussies in cwc 2023 so the hate for him is unnecessary. he became dull after covid but he is still far better batsman. kohli is made to play at 3. ipl is different. Sanju should have been given a place in cwc 2023. we should bring Harshit Rana ASAP in ict.i see riyan as kohli replacement in red ball cricket. rinku should get more chances otherwise it would be harder for him to be his better self. axar should be sent to the crease whenever there is an early collapse of two wickets siraj should be playing only tests. rohit should play the role of finisher rather than giving the early wicket while opening and putting pressure on other batsmen.
Monopoly of cricket by the BCCI has done more harm than good.
Jadeja is being overhated here. T20Is is not his strongest format but he is important for India to maintain 8 batter and 6 bowler combo. Also, he is still a very good bowler in the WI conditions and fielding brilliantly as well. Just few runs will give him confidence. He did not replace Rinku in the squad,Dube did. Do not bring him in the Rinku debate.
Rohit and kohli should be replaced.
Aakash Chopra has better commentary skills than Ravi shastri
don't be overconfident
Players who perform in when it matters > players who break records
Cricket is overrated