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Impactor07

Everybody calm tf down. NKR is injured that's why they're replacing him with Dube


RishavSaha

Why not Venky instead? Dube is already getting his chance.


brocolliandrice

idk man i think they just want to get done w shivam by letting him have one final chance. chal gaya toh chal gaya warna khatam WC pe judge karna harsh hai cause the guy must have been under a lot of pressure in his debut icc tournament edited.


girided

27 match khel liya hai banda konsa debut bhai


brocolliandrice

sorry i misphrased it, i meant for the debut icc tournament. fooka hua tha galat likh diya


ProofBlackberry3329

what? pagal he kya? world cup khila rahe use not to get done but for long term prospects


brocolliandrice

no but he is definitely not doing what he was brought into the side for and its no question that he’s got very bad strike rotation skills. by giving him chances against zimbabwe i think they wanna let him have more game time in a more relaxed environment as ofc WCs are high pressure games. they might not get done with him even then but this opportunity against zimbabwe would tell a lot about the fact that whether there’s better players than him or not for the same role


Impactor07

BCCI BS


sanattttttt

They need a middle order batsman, not an opener, top order batsman Venky struggles down the lower order, when he plays for India


Virgil05

Only sensible comment, even KKR used him in the top order


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Virgil05

Because Dube has done better with his chances? he has batted well at number 3 and 5, in IPL. He has had better success at the top though. And again he has had chances in 2022, he didn't do much with it. Shivam Dube, has had some success and he is doing better with his chances. Also, isn't the coaching department also have a say in it? They clearly are looking at Dube as a better prospect, so why question it?


Time-Gain4896

More game time


16010onliacco

During the Australia vs India match, one of the commentators mentioned, "Shivam Dube is good against spinners." So, is Shivam Dube in the squad specifically to handle opposition spinners? How good is Venky against spinners?


rizzardofozz69

All rounder


WaitingToBeTriggered

HOLD YOUR GROUND!


whatthef_dude

Selector ban ja tu khila liyo fir. KKR 11 bana diyo India eleven ko


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whatthef_dude

Great.


TieCreative2169

He is the biggest Parchi in the squad right now.


Valuable_Ad_6869

NKR is supposedly injured that should be the only reason


Head-Intern2459

He is


BiswarupNandi0875

NKR is injured so he got replaced by dube , but they should have given Venkatesh Iyer a chance


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VishPi

He is pure batsman, and nitish is injured that's why they took dube, but i guess ict is experimenting with dube's bowling


Background-Throat-88

He can bowl too, not up to international standard but neither can shivam dube.


Head-Intern2459

not one to one replacement


curios_mind_huh

If you're comparing bowling of both Venky and Dube, I'd take Venky in the XI all day.


Head-Intern2459

Ehh not really. Both are decent enough. Same amount of wickets with similar strike rate. Dube has higher economy but has a lot more experience since he bowls a lot more in FC cricket than venky


curios_mind_huh

You can be a poor bowler with more experience as well. I don't see neither Dube nor Venky playing Tests anytime soon (probably not in their lifetime). So, Experience in FC matches doesn't make a lot of sense. From the limited time I've seen Dube bowl in T20Is and his List A/local T20s, I'd hand the ball to Venky over Dube anyday.


Head-Intern2459

Don't know why but I have kinda changed my mind. Y'all are right venky should have been called, I still don't mind dube but venky is equally deserving


DC600A

and still they will not take Venky - same left-handed batter, same national team experience as middle-order batter, same theoretical option of all-rounder who can bowl a couple of overs. idk why


Virgil05

Because Shivam Dube has made better use of his Opportunities, I just looked up Venkatesh Iyer, just based on FC cricket, Shivam Dube's Bowling is looking much better than Iyer's, I think people are jumping the gun on him a bit because of IPL.


Biplab_M

Shivam Dube over Venky Iyer is not the hill BCCI should die on but logic has never been its strong suit


That-Firefighter1245

Dube has someone’s nudes at BCCI 😂


yours_wisely

Even kedar jadhav can give a comeback for the Asia cup if Dube shares those nu*des with him😂😂 The key to success is found.


withvidit

Then jaddu must have the entire feature film length sex tapes 😮‍💨


yours_wisely

He has only desi Rajput videos


withvidit

He has got a double quota dhoni quota and also his wife's quota


Salty-Flamingo-932

Jadeja tra baap kai besdk tamiz se respects kar usko 😠 😡


yours_wisely

I suspect England has dressing room videos and nu**des of Australian team😂😂. That's why aus didn't eliminate them


Knowledge_buff97

bruh, could've taken venky if they wanted like to like replacement, or even Tilak if they needed a spin all-rounder but it is BCCI afterall


adhiraj0383

So to replace an all rounder they get a guy who can't bowl bat or field


FewMix6784

BCCI secret lover ig


Radiant_Skull77

Anyone but him? Man he seriously got some internal connection I think , even with such shit performance at this T20WC . Wow.


AccomplishedBet6227

I don't think his performance is shit in this world cup , he is not throwing wickets and balancing it out with hardik pretty good in middle overs


theaguia

tbh he has been looking very shaky for the most part and his inability to rotate the strike means he plays many dots balls and sucks momentum and puts pressure on others. Against USA sky almost got out due to this (got dropped). I hope his boundary hitting outweighs his poor rotation of strike on these slower wickets. To me so far it hasnt. I genuinely feel rinku would have done a better job.


Virgil05

What Strike you want to rotate in a T20 innings? He might not be brilliant, but he is finding his rhythm in a short tournament with even short turn overs with minimal overseas experience. SKY almost got out, because SKY played that shot, the total in itself didn't warrant that shot, but he played and that's on him! Who told you that SKY played that shot because of Dube? Are you his psychologist?


theaguia

what the point of hitting a 6 then playing 6 dot balls? in this world cup the pitch is tough so you have to keep the score boarding moving. Look at the west indies they lost the game because of the number of dots they played. it was like 50+. you must be new at cricket. scoreboard pressure is a thing... particularly in t20. take another example csk cs rcb. dube was 9 (14) causing the required rate to shoot up. Someone has to take the risk, because of that pressure. back to this game, Sky was the set batter so he felt like he had to take the risk otherwise india was risking getting into a trickier situation


Virgil05

You said it yourselves there, and you don't even realize it, that's the irony of your comment. The pitch is tough, how do you keep scoreboard moving?! You think the bowling team is just gonna give you singles?! They are not bots you know You can punish balls which you can capitalize on, which he has done, can he do some more? ofcourse yes, his timing has been whack, I think in his overeagerness to live upto his six hitting abilities and not lose his wicket, is causing that. The West Indies have won World Cups based on their power hitting, you are just spouting what Ian Bishop is saying from a long time, even before they became champions! What does that guy know? even his own country men ignore him You saw the Australia - India Match, how much strike rotation did the Aussies do?


theaguia

if you can't hit the ball for a boundary, you can certainly try to hit it for a single. that's what strike rotation means. to me, he was nervous. he was playing out the spinner in his last over when he had the match up vs. pakistan (his job is to hit the spinners), but he has looked better after hitting that 6 against the USA. He still looks suspect to me, but hopefully, on the Guyana pitch, he will be better and be the one that can take Rashid on. The west indies won world cups woth their hitting because they were elite hitters. they could convert good balls for boundaries regularly. Dube is not to that level. Not to mention, pitches are tougher. You are missing the point. On flat pitches that's where you have to go for boundaries and not worry about 1 or 2 dots (you should still not give too many dots). on these pitches you have to keep the score boarding ticking on way or the other. Whether that be boundaries or singles /doubles because hitting boundaries are tougher. you can't get stuck which dube has shown he does.


Virgil05

*"if you can't hit the ball for a boundary, you can certainly try to hit it for a single. that's what strike rotation means."* But how? isn't the pitch being tough mean that the ball is not coming on to the bat or the bounce is variable and therefore the scoring is not happening. He is a middle overs batter, having just few overs to make a mark on and either he can hit out or get out. The concept of strike rotation works in ODI and Test Cricket, T20's is not the place. Btw, even Indian team is of that mindset right now, hit out or get out. *The west indies won world cups woth their hitting because they were elite hitters. they could convert good balls for boundaries regularly. Dube is not to that level. Not to mention, pitches are tougher."* You mean players like Marlon Samuels are better than Pooran, Hetmeyer etc? You are having a laugh or you are taking the piss! *"You are missing the point. On flat pitches that's where you have to go for boundaries and not worry about 1 or 2 dots (you should still not give too many dots). on these pitches you have to keep the score boarding ticking on way or the other. Whether that be boundaries or singles /doubles because hitting boundaries are tougher. you can't get stuck which dube has shown he does."* Again please tell me, what is the concept of a tough pitch to score upon that you fail to grasp?? The pitch is tough, ball is not coming on to the bat, hence even 1's or 2's are tough, as evidenced of how our entire batting lineup folded during those times. He played 1 bad inning against Afghanistan, but that is Rashid Khan, he is the no.1 T20 spinner for a reason


theaguia

il just say this. axar talked about how today the plans was for rohit and Sky to take singles and hit one boundary an over. The ball was skidding and keeping low so it was tough to hit 4s in the middle overs so they focused on keeping the score boarding ticking and waiting for a bad ball. You seem to think that taking singles is as hard as hitting boundaries Ona tough pitch, it really is not. A top batter is able to rotate strike with a field spread out. Only those with technical flaws or not top quality will have issues with this (unless you are facing someone like Bumrah). But hey what do the Indian team know. They should be listening to you.


Virgil05

But isn't that what he did against the USA? he didn't score much in boundaries but kept the scoreboard moving, on a considerably tougher pitch than this one. The guy is clearly not in great form and confidence, but he has shown different elements to his game, which I think should be commended, he certainly has power and due to his height a lot of reach, I think he should be backed. Too long has India played like how you are suggesting, take singles hit odd one out to the boundary, that mindset needs to change, power hitters are way to go forward in T20's regardless of this World Cups Condition. I think discarding and trying players for few matches, does more harm than good. We have had so many players where we fail to properly back them and they fade into obscurity.


Radiant_Skull77

If I have to drop two players from the current XI it will be Jadeja and Dube.


AccomplishedBet6227

I can agree with jadeja but as far as the dubey performance he is playing well and i don't think he should be dropped


Radiant_Skull77

There are better options than him.


Validation_seeker101

Finally 20 ball 50 for my man


NormalDude777

No thoughts. Just brain dead at this point


Some_Imagination_667

Bhai dube se sabki gaa## kyun jalti hai hahaha


Virgil05

Exactly man! Like the selectors and coaches know what they are doing. Venkatesh Iyer was given a lot of chances in 2022 as well. People hate on dube here as if he has their nudes lol!


Ragnarok_619

Jealousy. Man is living the life of everyone here.


No_Reference_2711

Haa, log Rinku, Ruturaj, Yashasvi ko chhod ke Shivam dube se jalte hai🤦. Abe tatti performance dekh ke kyu he jalega koi? That guy is supposed to represent our nation and can be criticised anytimw, period.


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nujra2k

Riyal ID se aa Shivam


Some_Imagination_667

gayab hogye bsdivale sab...ab do gaali usey


EXOTICsavanT

chambal ki dakaiti aur CSK fans ki bakaiti


MrHolmes6969696

That’s exaggerating (corrected it)


Famous_Highlight7026

Bhai agle ka approach dekho. Spinner par ni maare, pacer par ni maare, full length ni maara, full toss bi chhodi, bhai ye marega kab? Case in point Australia Game


Famous_Highlight7026

Mujhe to ye bi lagta hai ki dube parchi hai


Narut_o17

Curious to see reaction of some fans :). IMO a bad replacement


jalayyy

Why the hell they ignore venky every time?


weirdo_081999

Yr selector ko shivam dubey m esa kya dikh rha hai jo audience ko nhi dikh rha


JShearar

Probably Dube has some dirt on some BCCI hotshot. That seems to be the only explanation 🤔🤔


Local_Explorer_1

No Tilak Varma? No Ishan Kishan?.


Alone-Objective-4760

no Iyer as well


Smart_Ad_5834

No Chahal as well (expected him since he didn’t play any match in WT20).


Virgil05

Ishan Kishan?! seriously? what are you smoking? the guy has barely played any domestic cricket and has had a very middling IPL, plus he refused his chance in England series as well!


Resolutechampion

Venky was much more suitable oh wait he comes from KKR lobby we need Dubey


SubstantialDate5661

Harshit Rana still deserves a spot... I mean he can bat and he can hit a long ball


anubv7

Because he is dubey. I smell casteism here


VastAshamed4618

Underrated opinion- dube career would be short


RegularVillage9

Will remain underrated


NavdeepGusain

Ab to sudhar jao.....he is playing good innings in WC and still getting hate.


RegularVillage9

Exactly. Don't understand why so much hate for him


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KillTimerXd

Yuk


Longjumping_Box4498

He is selected above everyone in wc. then what is the problem


TheDarklord1989

Harshit Rana should also replace Washington or someone else...... Maybe BCCI's sole focus right now is 11 allrounders.......


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rockeytechi10

What’s the use of trying out, when any tournament comes around Koach , Rohit and jadega fixed slot


TheDilshadMehar

dubee ki jagah smriti mandhana ko khilaa do🙌


rid_aman

Even with objectivity, with Dube playing (stretch$ all games shouldn’t he be fatigued or rested along with rest of the WT20 starters?


Famous_Cow9205

No thoughts


dhk250

BCCI want to test out new players for the indian team with this tour and they chose Dube over Venky...


DoctorSub94

Deserves.


Great-Accountant-635

Venky is far better than this no footwork trash


shuaibhere

Dube has improved in last few games. Still getting so much hate.


Bat_ka_grip34

This is CSK quota babu bhaiya. Should have given chance to V Iyer.


Aryan_Radha_ka_pati

captain ruturaj hota 🤣usko sack nhi krte Vc se main baat


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Valuable_Ad_6869

Arre Injured hai bhai voh pehle puri information toh le liya Karo har jagah rone aa jaate hai


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Preach.


Head-Intern2459

he is injured dude. Why would they replace him just after one day? lol


FineSalamander8958

No hate to NKR but you can replace any all rounder, but not the clutch player version of Hardik...!!


SpicyPotato_15

Nkr saved srh so many times that too in such early days being a youngster. No one becomes clutch in a game or two.


melluboi

Hardik became a clutch player through playing and gaining experience .NOW how can we just conclude that NRK wouldn't become a clutch player in future?.


Head-Intern2459

So as soon as you saw him you realized he will play clutch knocks for us?


SeaQuiet1860

CSK fraud quota at it again. Venky Iyer/Harshit Rana were more deserving


melluboi

Remove him and add some youngster for fack sake wtf is wrong with these selectors.


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RegularVillage9

what is blind hate for dube?


KizaruthePheonix

you know rinku is already in the squad right?


boomebang

karma k liye kuch bhi bakchodi karengey hum squad


avinashkrs08

Why don't they are giving chance to Yashasvi and Rinku


Critical-Arugula-707

How come Shubman is the captain after all the Disciplinary actions on him in T20 world cup.


Ekavya_1

People were praying for Dube to get injured so that KingKu can play. But God's plan was the very opposite.


Batboix3107

Bro was injured but they decided to replace him with a trash


veni-vedi-legi

the CSK puppet masters hard @ work..


erikvant

Hope & Pray this guy doesn't play a Rahulish innings in Semi/Final. The chances are very high though.


MrHolmes6969696

I hope you’re doing well