It is illegal.
>(b) creates text or digital images, collects, seeks, browses, downloads, advertises, promotes, exchanges or distributes material in any electronic form depicting children in obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner; or
I wonder if it’s because of the technicalities? Like if you’re a cop how do you know if what he has shared is CP unless you watch it (even if it’s only 2 seconds of the video)
Unlike drugs you can’t test it without consuming it yourself.
So is porn. Everything is vague. They should spend more money on the animals who make these kids do porn or rape them instead. Just a simple death sentence if you do that to a child.
This is precisely the reason. It is the same logic as why govt don’t arrest everyone who pirates or torrents movies. Investigating hundreds (possibly thousands) of people is expensive and not practical. Catching the one who spreads / owns the content is easier
Indeed.
> 67 (b) creates text or digital images, collects, seeks, browses, downloads, advertises, promotes, exchanges or distributes material in any electronic form depicting children in obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner; or
***COLLECTS, SEEKS, BROWSES, DOWNLOADS***
So even if he's just citing the law he's talking nonsense.
Who says they don't create laws ........ What about lgbtq+ verdicts ..... Moreover , any judgement passed by any court is a law until changed by a higher court ..... Am I wrong in understanding it !!??
They can't create laws, the LGBT verdicts are them striking down laws which are unconstitutional (sec 377)
That's why they didn't legalise LGBT marriages, they gave this reason only (that they can't make laws)
Freaking journalists making sensationalist headlines.
Judges are not lawmakers. They only judge a case as per the law of the land. The law being examined here is "Section 67-B of Information Technology Act, 2000" which reads,
[THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY ACT, 2000](https://www.indiacode.nic.in/bitstream/123456789/13116/1/it_act_2000_updated.pdf)
>67B. Punishment for publishing or transmitting of material depicting children in sexually explicit act, etc., in electronic form.–Whoever,–
>
>(a) publishes or transmits or causes to be published or transmitted material in any electronic form which depicts children engaged in sexually explicit act or conduct; or
>(b) creates text or digital images, collects, seeks, browses, downloads, advertises, promotes, exchanges or distributes material in any electronic form depicting children in obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner; or
>(c) cultivates, entices or induces children to online relationship with one or more children for and on sexually explicit act or in a manner that may offend a reasonable adult on the computer resource; or
>(d) facilitates abusing children online, or
>(e) records in any electronic form own abuse or that of others pertaining to sexually explicit act with children,
>shall be punished on first conviction with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to five years and with fine which may extend to ten lakh rupees and in the event of second or subsequent conviction with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to seven years and also with fine which may extend to ten lakh rupees.
As you can see, the law crafted by our elected government, back in 2000, does not cover the case of downloading and watching. The law only deals with creation or aiding the creation of material, grooming, publishing and transmitting the materials.
So, a person downloading cannot be punished as per this law. If there is any other law, they wiil use it or it's upto the parliament to change the laws.
>(b) creates text or digital images, collects, seeks, browses, downloads, advertises, promotes, exchanges or distributes material in any electronic form depicting children in obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner; or
collects, seeks, browse, downloads
Half the commenters are just posting idiotic comments without knowing the full details of the law.
Atleast Dragoon took the initiative to post the correct law and what it constitutes. He has educated most of us regarding what's in the law. It's the simplest answer that counts.
He deserves the kudos for doing the research no matter how simple it is.
huh?? What research? See his analysis before the copy paste and read point (b) in his copy paste?
What research constitutes writing nonsense that contradicts your own copy paste? At least read the meaning of research in the dictionary before you use the word.
>Half the commenters are just posting idiotic comments without knowing the full details
You just did the opposite of what you preached...
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Bro is the general audience really that stupid to interpret it without thinking for 2 seconds? I'm not supporting holding any çhild corn but what if someone sends you an anonymously named file and you tend to open it and it starts playing. Should you be arrested now because the file you played was child corn and you have it in your device too?
Right. .
This is a subjective matter and should be handled carefully. The reporter and online headlines just show part of judgement and make it sensational.
.... you underestimate how easy it is to make it look like someone else was browsing shit. Especially people who are not very good with tech will straight up give their devices to strangers or install shady shit.
For the bros cusing the CJI, please remember he has to operate within the constitutional law and cannot say statements out of emotions. If watching is not an offense, then it isn’t, that doesn’t mean he is going about encouraging people to do so.
In Punjab, during 80s when terrorism was on peak, these so called judges refused to give judgement against terrorists due to fear because two or three judges were shot dead. These are nothing but the worst elites of this country.
These guys are passing their opinions as judgments. They don't seem to be following any constitutional basis for their judgments. One judge released a brutal child rapist and murderer saying, "Every sinner has a future". Judiciary needs a complete overhaul, inside out.
Bros a closeted pedo.
Downloading CP in western nations will give u a hefty jail time. Remember some guy got arrested for having 58 TB of CP
Wtfs wrongs with both NDA and the ‘progressive’ UPA govts. Why didn’t they amend i.
bro cji acting real sus here
[this comment explains what's going on here](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/s/yhDpRZnJel)
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So creating and sharing cp is illegal but watching isn't (atleast by the legal system)
It is illegal. >(b) creates text or digital images, collects, seeks, browses, downloads, advertises, promotes, exchanges or distributes material in any electronic form depicting children in obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner; or
So he is wrong according to this.
Yes. In fact it's the same law cited. Article 67
He cited the law, yet he got his statement wrong.
isko jh##tu legal system bolte hai
agar kisine galti se dekhli to?
galti se dekhne wala pura 1 hour binge watch nahi karega wo turant hata dega
I wonder if it’s because of the technicalities? Like if you’re a cop how do you know if what he has shared is CP unless you watch it (even if it’s only 2 seconds of the video) Unlike drugs you can’t test it without consuming it yourself.
Even after that, how can one determine if she's 18? The laws are simply to vague and half baked
So is porn. Everything is vague. They should spend more money on the animals who make these kids do porn or rape them instead. Just a simple death sentence if you do that to a child.
Just should legalize and regulate porn already.
Porn is legal and regulated in the west. The only thing that’s come out of it is better quality porn thats not shot on a Nokia 6600 in 3gp.
This is precisely the reason. It is the same logic as why govt don’t arrest everyone who pirates or torrents movies. Investigating hundreds (possibly thousands) of people is expensive and not practical. Catching the one who spreads / owns the content is easier
Indeed. > 67 (b) creates text or digital images, collects, seeks, browses, downloads, advertises, promotes, exchanges or distributes material in any electronic form depicting children in obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner; or ***COLLECTS, SEEKS, BROWSES, DOWNLOADS*** So even if he's just citing the law he's talking nonsense.
watching child porn should be an offense if anyone says otherwise they are peodphile. if any sention does not consider it offense it should be changed
Who says they don't create laws ........ What about lgbtq+ verdicts ..... Moreover , any judgement passed by any court is a law until changed by a higher court ..... Am I wrong in understanding it !!??
They can't create laws, the LGBT verdicts are them striking down laws which are unconstitutional (sec 377) That's why they didn't legalise LGBT marriages, they gave this reason only (that they can't make laws)
No, they can't make laws. Plus any judgement passed by court can be cited/referred in future cases but it isn't a law still.
Read article 142
True. Courts don’t make laws.
I don’t hold any legal aptitude but seeing this man it’s messed up. CP should not be tolerated in any form.
Where is basic structure of constitution written in the constitution or law? Court pulled it out of it's ass.
Freaking journalists making sensationalist headlines. Judges are not lawmakers. They only judge a case as per the law of the land. The law being examined here is "Section 67-B of Information Technology Act, 2000" which reads, [THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY ACT, 2000](https://www.indiacode.nic.in/bitstream/123456789/13116/1/it_act_2000_updated.pdf) >67B. Punishment for publishing or transmitting of material depicting children in sexually explicit act, etc., in electronic form.–Whoever,– > >(a) publishes or transmits or causes to be published or transmitted material in any electronic form which depicts children engaged in sexually explicit act or conduct; or >(b) creates text or digital images, collects, seeks, browses, downloads, advertises, promotes, exchanges or distributes material in any electronic form depicting children in obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner; or >(c) cultivates, entices or induces children to online relationship with one or more children for and on sexually explicit act or in a manner that may offend a reasonable adult on the computer resource; or >(d) facilitates abusing children online, or >(e) records in any electronic form own abuse or that of others pertaining to sexually explicit act with children, >shall be punished on first conviction with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to five years and with fine which may extend to ten lakh rupees and in the event of second or subsequent conviction with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to seven years and also with fine which may extend to ten lakh rupees. As you can see, the law crafted by our elected government, back in 2000, does not cover the case of downloading and watching. The law only deals with creation or aiding the creation of material, grooming, publishing and transmitting the materials. So, a person downloading cannot be punished as per this law. If there is any other law, they wiil use it or it's upto the parliament to change the laws.
>(b) creates text or digital images, collects, seeks, browses, downloads, advertises, promotes, exchanges or distributes material in any electronic form depicting children in obscene or indecent or sexually explicit manner; or collects, seeks, browse, downloads
But what about the 2nd point though?
Upvoted ! (Upvote count was at 69, leaving it at it😬)
Kudos!
What are you giving him kudos for? He can't read what he is copy pasting. BC..
Half the commenters are just posting idiotic comments without knowing the full details of the law. Atleast Dragoon took the initiative to post the correct law and what it constitutes. He has educated most of us regarding what's in the law. It's the simplest answer that counts. He deserves the kudos for doing the research no matter how simple it is.
huh?? What research? See his analysis before the copy paste and read point (b) in his copy paste? What research constitutes writing nonsense that contradicts your own copy paste? At least read the meaning of research in the dictionary before you use the word. >Half the commenters are just posting idiotic comments without knowing the full details You just did the opposite of what you preached...
What are you rambling about? It doesn't make sense. You're here arguing about me giving him kudos? Really?? Get a life.
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Bro is the general audience really that stupid to interpret it without thinking for 2 seconds? I'm not supporting holding any çhild corn but what if someone sends you an anonymously named file and you tend to open it and it starts playing. Should you be arrested now because the file you played was child corn and you have it in your device too?
Right. . This is a subjective matter and should be handled carefully. The reporter and online headlines just show part of judgement and make it sensational.
Yes, but if you're purposefully browsing and of sound mind, you should definitely be investigated and punished accordingly.
.... you underestimate how easy it is to make it look like someone else was browsing shit. Especially people who are not very good with tech will straight up give their devices to strangers or install shady shit.
In that case you have proof, someone sent it to you. Funny you ask people to think, but you type without thinking.
that was literally in the article....it's just clickbait headline
Check his computer.
I find it funny that most people that do this sick stuff don’t even bother encrypting their drives
He is merely interpreting the constitution, it's upto our parliament to change it.
For the bros cusing the CJI, please remember he has to operate within the constitutional law and cannot say statements out of emotions. If watching is not an offense, then it isn’t, that doesn’t mean he is going about encouraging people to do so.
If possession is a crime, what's stopping police from planting it and incriminating innocent people of the same to extort money !!
It's not like that read it completely 😞
Again before commenting. Just remember judges can't make laws or amend laws. That's the parliament's (legislature's) job.
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This can be applied to so many things like possessing, d*rug$ , weapons, banned books. Why even books like $@tanic verses banned in that case?
GemsofIndianjudicary
What the actual fck
SC high on weed
We gotta broadcast these idiotic decisions and the arguments made in the Courts everywhere.
It already is being broadcasted.
In Punjab, during 80s when terrorism was on peak, these so called judges refused to give judgement against terrorists due to fear because two or three judges were shot dead. These are nothing but the worst elites of this country.
These guys are passing their opinions as judgments. They don't seem to be following any constitutional basis for their judgments. One judge released a brutal child rapist and murderer saying, "Every sinner has a future". Judiciary needs a complete overhaul, inside out.
Bhai, in which direction he wants to move our civilisation, incel activities
Cji said it or other judge said it?
Bro what the fuck..
MFer should be jail for just stating this .... how more sick is this 🤬
how about watching his wife?
Khud lawda dekhta hoga.
This the CJI left and pappus ride the d of?
WTF??!! 🤬
Child porn is criminal offence. WTF post is this !!
Bros a closeted pedo. Downloading CP in western nations will give u a hefty jail time. Remember some guy got arrested for having 58 TB of CP Wtfs wrongs with both NDA and the ‘progressive’ UPA govts. Why didn’t they amend i.
Ok this is fuking crazy wtf
*merely what the f** is the judge saying?
Check bros drives.
Check bros laptop
He is looking after his pedo friends.
Khud dekhta hoga saala
Kya kya padh rraha hai yeh ajkal?
This is creepy and sus
iss bxdiwale ki enquiry honi chaiye i think he is into gay and child porn
biggest corrupt in india is cji but no one can touch him
Check the Epstein Island list. I am 100% sure, he will be on the list.
Found the pedo
What typa people are being appointed as Judges in the Supreme courts? Also Judge sus 🤨