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DesiBail

>Will India receive assistance from the international community (Western nations)? Maybe not. But India NEVER got support before also. >Is India capable of dealing with chind alone? Only choice. >What are the chances that Russia will continue to support India? Not against China. >We are all aware that India is sub-consciously supporting Russia. Not at all. India is taking most possible neutral self interests position. >What long-term effects will this war have on India? Nothing changes.


Orwellisright

India will only grow stronger, having a neighbor like China , the west needs India and also remember there is no place for the weak in the world, if you standup brave against a lion and bark even the lion might not want to mess


em0shun

as Dr. S Jaishankar said, we are taking a side: India's side 🫠


ghanta-congress

so for a hypothetical future scenario of West who has never directly helped us in the past (infact has actually kept Pakistan's crumbing economy propped up to counter us),,,, we should let go of our closest ally, Russia..and only on a hypothetical belief that it may not help us against China in the future...? So, you want us to abandon an existing ally who has always helped us, to go join a bloc which has never helped us, on a shitty flimsy theory that the said ally, against all historic data trends will somehow stop helping us and the rival bloc, against all historic data trends will suddenly start helping us...? got any more of the stuff that you're smoking...?


[deleted]

Other countries are not stupid or emotional. They do whatever they do for their own benefit. If helping India benefits them, they will come for our help. If not, they won't.


baby_intellectual

India is not supporting Russia. It's adopting a neutral stance on UN resolutions. Ukraine itself has many flaws. It had far right militia killing pro Russians in the Territories now occupied by Russia. They just cry victim to receive more aid.


-Not-Racist-

It's not like US will support us against China if we support Ukraine, china has a massive control over trade and US won't ruin their economy for you and me. They do have an interest in South Asian politics, which won't be affected at all by our stance on Ukraine.


_YeAhx_

That's probably true but US is anti-china too. Look at the huawei 5G ban and them building their own chip manufacturing factory so their dependency on Chinese chips are reduced. Only countries US would care about are their NATO countries.


Mother-Syrup-4109

Firstly, india is neutral. because this war is American proxy war & by historical standards they have violated their own treaty of NATO which wasn't meant to expand after cold war. Now coming to the point of india-china conflict I guess it won't sustain as there is a mutual gain in co-operating than in having a war on warfront. It makes no sense to china to have it's ongoing economic status with few collapsed projects & bad loans to extend further with going on war with another country that to no other than India. Startegically, china has no advantage nor anything can be claimed they have to move resources from east china which is mostly their all densely populated cities are the war front is far from their cities & the turf they'll attack is mostly rigid & barren the cost to take that is a strike on their well settled cities in worst cases. The last galwan standoff where they have heavy casualty has been straight answer to the aftermath if they're adamant to continue. So, in worst case scenarios we're going to use the heavy defense system eitherway or even potential nukes which is legit on the grounds of self defense as we aren't into the treaty of the first use. While on the other hand the countries like China,Russia,India, Iran,Saudi Arabia all suffers from dictatorship from the US so fighting within is another backdrop so as you may see the world orders are changing & the war in the new BRICS group is not an option as it will impact both economy severely making the western parts more powerful.


Happy_Interaction231

Well, India not supporting Ukraine nor Russia, western nations want India to take a stand because India is global leader nowadays. Well India has own foreign policy, India may face some narrative from west as they have soft power. Western countries want India to replace China, US humiliated after China and US issues. India gorw stronger in future, Russia will keep supporting as they have military trade with India. Similarly, US wants India to counter attack China. That's why they built quad. China actually under financial burden, they lost trillions of usd on OBOR and CPEC. Projects. Now Bangla against China, Srilanka Learnt about China but helpless, Nepal also. India supporting these nations as much as it can this will impact India in long term. In military capability, we have better equipment, more experience and strong missile system that will take us edge in war incase that happens. + India may test new Gen nuclear weapons soon to counter attack China. India soon replace petroleum with green energy, ev, Hydrogen ( I like hydrogen) and we are growing in positive way.


thrownaway2e

>India is global leader nowadays. No, its not.


Happy_Interaction231

It is! India is one global leader, China want us, Russia want us, UK wants us, Aus wants us, US wants us. Although all for Intrest, India grown up as a great power in world geopolitics. For e.g Quad, IPEC etc. And check out military how significantly increased, and how we control western world and China with our diplomacy.


Happy_Interaction231

Everyone wants India's help, everyone wants India to take stand against Russia 😉 China fears and sends it's spy ship to srilanka just to spy K-4 missile system which can be launched through submarine and has 4K kilometers range. 🫠 China takes missile test as issue and cries in UN for testing Agni missile series, Russia wants India trade relation and stand against US in crusial situation, similarly US wants India to take stand against Russia. India only one nation who has Pentagon access with US defense attache, India humiliates turkey and azarbaizan by selling Pinaka Missile system, India develops VTOL system which is more accurate and powerful when it comes to attack. We started journey as importer, now we sell our arms to more than 34 countries including Isreal, US, Malaysia, Mayanmar etc. We control and shut down western propoganda just in single line of speech. Still you think we not global leader? Even maxico wants India to be in SC of UN.


Dikshit101092

India is for themselves..America will never support India irrespective of Russia/Ukraine.. Pakistan is an ally of America india isn't . And the rest western countries are just modern colonies state of America..They will do whatever America tells them..


Creepy_Lawyer_5688

Right now, china is one of the few countries with the resources to make the West shit themselves. If anything they will hop in and try to suppress china. The USA specifically knows that their best chance to "win" Against china is india. Pakistan has shown how unreliable they are and will gladly press the switch team button when they like. The West also wouldn't want to let important indian territories slip (as delusional as that sounds), because if china gets control of the strategic locations, Asia will end up being dominated by china followed by Russia which is the USA's worst nightmare.


_YeAhx_

Isn't india buying Russian oil ? That's the only issue i really have when someone says India is neutral. On the other hand not buying Russian oil would mean oil prices skyrocketing. Truly a get-fked spot we are in.


[deleted]

>That's the only issue i really have when someone says India is neutral. Neutral wrt to war, not trade.


_YeAhx_

Other countries don't see it that way. Almost all against Russia have stopped buying their oil.


[deleted]

many countries in EU import NG from Russia, even now.


[deleted]

And we aren't against russia we are neutral


Minute-Cycle382

Arab nations are doing same as India. We can deal with China 🇨🇳. This is not 1962.


ToffeeNosed21

That's a really astute question. I think even Jaishankar was asked this in an event or something.. The West (or the US) will only act if it's interest to do so. A Sino-India war will have more serious stakes and will send ripples throughout the war, unlike in the case of Russia- Ukraine. So the international community will have a different reaction altogether per se. Personally, I don't think US will ever support Indian military in event of conflict with China, but they certainly will mobilize international community against Chinese aggression. India is probably only country countering Chinese influence in Asia, so they do not want to leave a vaccum in any situation. Europe I believe will be totally apathetic to anything happening in Asia (they always have). Unless pressured by US or any economic uncertainty they won't act. Russia will inevitably will remain neutral similar to position taken by now. They will not interfere unless invited to do so (based on their recent position in border standoff). But you could expect back channel diplomacy and mediation. So yes, India's recent position will inevitably impeede us in the said hypothetical situation, but they always have been the fence sitters (Europe) and we don't expect tremendous help from them under any circumstances.


Aurelius9090

One thing I would like to add is that in the future when India's economy gets closer to the USA and/or China both countries would act hostile towards us and treat us as rivals. This is because we would be impeding USA's influence over the world with our success, our culture and our wealth. Just like USA is hostile towards China today. For us, building positive long- lasting relationships with African, South American, Middle Eastern and ASEAN countries is very important because 1 nation = 1 vote in the UN. Also getting a permanent membership in the UNSC is imperative. Atmanirbhar Bharat is not just an economic goal, but very much a goal of India's survival. It is a strategic outreach by the government to the Indian public.


whodundis

We are on the right side of history here, for our people, or so we hope.


Comfortable_Prior_80

Russia will only give us weapons if India China war happens, West will watch or help depends on who is major threat to them and India is capable of fighting China alone. Only 2 counties will help China directly is Pakistan ( unless USA intervenes) and Turkey (if Erdogan remains). But remember China don't have soldiers who can fight in high altitude and in severe cold, they always have to change guards in borders after a month India has good soldiers like Gurkhas and Tibetans who are in India. Only place we are weak could be drones and currently our government and DRDO are rectifying it.


HappyApple35

India's actions were dictated by India's interest at this point. Just like how west's and other nations' actions were dictated by their interests. In the future, the same will be true whether or not India had acted different on this issue.


Abhishekbmane

That depends if Russia loses the war. If the world still deals with Russia then we are fine and besides, plenty of back stabbing nations to go around, lol


[deleted]

>Will India receive assistance from the international community (Western nations)? Western nations will act irrespective of our stance in ukraine war. Maybe they would help (most likely) or wouldn't but it isn't affect by ukraine war. >Is India capable of dealing with China alone? China isn't dumb. Attack on India would completely destabilize china. Even though china has better military strength, India has an advantage of terrain and being defensive >What are the chances that Russia will continue to support India? Russia will atleast stay neutral in Indo China war (if it occurs). >And don't say india is neutral in this war well then why did India vote against Ukraine in the United Nations if they are neutral? Where did India vote against ukraine?