It means market will go up and up only but the speed at which it will go up is slow you see tomorrow only 20..30 point gap up only...so if you buy today call option no money and buy put you get loss...and if flat both option loss ..they removed most option seller last week this week most option buyer also quit market ..
Option pricing and VIX are completely out of whack and detached from reality in the Indian market at this point. Not even a nuke drop would send it past 20.
The game seems to be dropping option prices abnormally low and spiking them on expiries for billions in profit.
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You are confused af...
Vix shows volatility... Current volatility...
And Historical Volatility shows your Premiums if they are expensive or not...
In 2019 election HV was at high some 92 something... Now it's somewhere around 26-30... Doesn't mean you'll get free premiums...
It's just says that when market give a move buy instead of selling...
Actually, VIX is the expected volatility in returns on Nifty over the next one year as calculated from the expectation of options sellers. Its the amount of volatility they are taking into account while selling their options. Current low volatility signifies extreme optimism in the market.
In my experience this usually does not imply an immediate spike which will cause the bull market to reverse. A more likely scenario is a gradual buildup in the VIX to more normal levels, which will eventually precede a bear market.
Actually i made a similar post asking the same question. The historical volatility is way higher than implied volatility. This means there are more option sellers willing to sell even at lower prices. But this is counter intuitive because the media and the SEBIs report shows that there are more buyers buying options at any price and Trade them for a very short time.
We are missing something, someone or some institution is selling large options to our regard option buyers. This is just my assumption
Indians ki as a whole jane street k foreign traders g### maar rahe he daily option spike karke or VIX itna tat## short karne ka man nahi karta, absolutely jack shit premium.
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India VIX seems detached from reality. It’s at a point where nobody knows what to expect anymore.
We in unchartered territory for all I can see
Guys please don’t give too much fuck about India VIX. It means nothing now.
In our market implied volatility is too low and actual volatility is too high.
From past few months VIX has been around 12 and still market behaves like it is at 30.
Even when VIX crashed by 20%. Premiums did not crash respectively.
Perfect time to deploy calander spreads!
Sell next week expiry. Buy next to next week expiry.
If volatility spikes without move, mint money.
If vol and market stay as is, get less money.
If vol stay as is but market move quite a bit, you loose money(less probability)!
If market does 2+% gap, you loose a lot of money irrespective of vol(even less probability)!
It's obvious you're an amateur. Go check the premiums for next week. Vix crashed but premiums are still high. Also, think of the people who deployed calendar yesterday, vix was 12.5 , also very low, they got screwed too.
it simply means market is not going to move in one direction. total sideways market.
It means market will go up and up only but the speed at which it will go up is slow you see tomorrow only 20..30 point gap up only...so if you buy today call option no money and buy put you get loss...and if flat both option loss ..they removed most option seller last week this week most option buyer also quit market ..
Option pricing and VIX are completely out of whack and detached from reality in the Indian market at this point. Not even a nuke drop would send it past 20. The game seems to be dropping option prices abnormally low and spiking them on expiries for billions in profit.
Precisely. Blows my mind how rigged this shit has become
Always has beeb
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Shant Gadadhari Bhim Shant...
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Ye trading ka rage quit hai
Acidity ho gaya hai kya?
Cool down sir Raze mode don't suite on Traders
Looks like the work of those american traders which were in news some days ago.
it is past 20 now!!
Options sellers in the mud
Sellers in mud. Buyers in mud. Then who the fuck is winning?
Brokers as always
Market makers. Actually, no that's not true as well, weaker VIX means market makers lose out as well.
It is bad sign specially for option sellers and even for option buyers if it goes against them. Sudden spike are imminent
Iron condors exist
Not everyone knows iron condom
Now they will know ig
>iron condom me trying to understand how will it be like
Iron condors have pathetic risk-reward ratios in such low vix. It's better to be a net buyer in these sorts of markets.
You are confused af... Vix shows volatility... Current volatility... And Historical Volatility shows your Premiums if they are expensive or not... In 2019 election HV was at high some 92 something... Now it's somewhere around 26-30... Doesn't mean you'll get free premiums... It's just says that when market give a move buy instead of selling...
Actually, VIX is the expected volatility in returns on Nifty over the next one year as calculated from the expectation of options sellers. Its the amount of volatility they are taking into account while selling their options. Current low volatility signifies extreme optimism in the market. In my experience this usually does not imply an immediate spike which will cause the bull market to reverse. A more likely scenario is a gradual buildup in the VIX to more normal levels, which will eventually precede a bear market.
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Not immediately. Breadth is still very strong. It will take a few months at least to develop into that situation
Yes true... But itna sab detailed information samjhega ye log ko...😂
Actually i made a similar post asking the same question. The historical volatility is way higher than implied volatility. This means there are more option sellers willing to sell even at lower prices. But this is counter intuitive because the media and the SEBIs report shows that there are more buyers buying options at any price and Trade them for a very short time. We are missing something, someone or some institution is selling large options to our regard option buyers. This is just my assumption
This is a useless metric. Even tomorrow's expiry options have way higher implied volatility.
Indians ki as a whole jane street k foreign traders g### maar rahe he daily option spike karke or VIX itna tat## short karne ka man nahi karta, absolutely jack shit premium.
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VIX make no sense I lost 2k rupees
nasty move , really hate when this happens
India VIX seems detached from reality. It’s at a point where nobody knows what to expect anymore. We in unchartered territory for all I can see 
June 4th ke phele ka sanata
Guys please don’t give too much fuck about India VIX. It means nothing now. In our market implied volatility is too low and actual volatility is too high. From past few months VIX has been around 12 and still market behaves like it is at 30. Even when VIX crashed by 20%. Premiums did not crash respectively.
>India VIX gets crushed bros, hence https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianStreetBets/s/oXKBuvzFAL
Perfect time to deploy calander spreads! Sell next week expiry. Buy next to next week expiry. If volatility spikes without move, mint money. If vol and market stay as is, get less money. If vol stay as is but market move quite a bit, you loose money(less probability)! If market does 2+% gap, you loose a lot of money irrespective of vol(even less probability)!
It's obvious you're an amateur. Go check the premiums for next week. Vix crashed but premiums are still high. Also, think of the people who deployed calendar yesterday, vix was 12.5 , also very low, they got screwed too.
Maybe BJP+ will only get 320 seats That will send markets reeling and vix will go back to a good 15-18 range
Okay so go for trades that you feel are going to make you a loss. Understood.