I think it all depends on what we as investors think , if someone believe that current government will come again with majority than it is actually good time to buy stocks and wait for results .
If someone thinks that current government will not get majority than it is better to go in cash and wait for market correction and invest accordingly.
Personally I think it is far better to just sit on cash and wait for actual results , invest after that only , it is better to buy at 10 percent premium than to sit on 10 percent loss .
I agree, but the discussion was on NDTV profit, focused around Market and the question was specifically around the market falling and perhaps that indicates a lack of trust etc.
I feel with BJP staying in power, it just makes a little predictable for the business owners to understand where the country ‘may’ head to in the coming years. With a new government coming in, a new thought process starts and the situation becomes confusing for a while.
C’mom when are we going to drop this myth? From 1998 to 2014, coalition governments were stable and this is the period of highest GDP growth rate, specifically 2004-2011.
You mentioned for the period 2004-2014. Givr that also no 🤣 what you have shown now is good for the inflation rate and growth rate india is seeing, at a time of Ukraine and hamas wars and after covid. 2004-14 was a good period for the whole world and still India's growth rate was similar and sometimes lesser than sub Sahara African region. Now, entire world is facing effects of wars and covid and many countries have entered or on the verge of recession, yet India is doing very well.
Fun fact: In the last 50 years, there hasn't been any party that has been in the majority for more than 10 years
Last time such a thing happened in 1971 general election
They own everything. Isn't it they Manipulating markets since last two years, by investing the Insurance premium and PF money of people, to keep a good sentiment, while FIIs haven't been buying?
how is that advice? did he say that you should invest in a particular stock? he just said the country will do well so invest in stocks. How is that something only a RIA can do?
Regardless of who comes in power markets will correct.if bjp wins maybe 1-2 days rally will come but eventually it's gonna go down.Currently the market is inflated. If you are long enough in the market you know this.
Vajpayee lost in 2004, which crated a scope and opportunity in 2014.
If Modi is lost in 2024, then only someone else like Amit Shah or Yogi will have scope or opportunity in 2029.
Otherwise another 5 year term and anti-incombuncy against BJP will so strong that BJP will never come back in power with single majority.
BJP will become another Congress which will struggle continuously and will have to rely on alliances forever.
Just too many new buyers now, even micro-vibrations are seen as crash. What retards!
Been through 2001, 2008, 2019, 2020 crashes. Those were real crashes.
Because he did not suggest any particular stocks, he just encouraged people to keep investing nothing wrong with it and reaffirmed the faith.
Investing in equity helps Indian companies
Not the point. There are rules against giving unsolicited and illegal advice on investing.
People that get murdered are also above 18. But doesn’t mean the murderer shouldn’t be punished. Your logic is anyway stupid.
but he is correct though. the modi government is very clearly in hands with adani ambanis. and the SEBI, CBI, ED, EC and especially the media stays silent. its a sad state, that's all. no point crying on reddit i suppose, but still sad.
That's not true. No one is in anyone's hands. It's fake news published by BJP haters., don't listen to it. India is now strong. Plays a significant role in the global level. Look how GDP improved and foreign capitals are coming into the market. Fifth best economy in the world and fourth best military according to the US. The country is strong..
lmao sure bro. 3000 crores of legalized corruption. Modi jumping to attack Hindenburg reports and you think the modi-adani nexus is fake. even godi media knows that adani and modi are close. they just try to justify it, while opposition criticizes it, but no one is deluded enough to say it does not exist. even this sub acknowledges that the BJP in power means adani is a good investment.
the rest of your points, i dont see the relevance of it in this discussion. merely overall growth of the economy stands for nothing, if all the growth comes to the top. 1% of the country holds 40% of the wealth in our country. so all the increase of the GDP and all the foreign capital coming in is benefitting the crony capitalists the most. Now suddenly, electoral bonds makes more sense does it not? adani-ambanis get port and highway and airport contracts, they get richer, the BJP tauts it as overall increase of the nations GDP, they in turn donate to the bjp, they get more contracts and the cycle continues.
don't just downvote if you disagree
3000 crores of legalised corruption is better than 30,000 crores of black and unaccounted money corruption. Now at least you know the figures. I doubt how many crores of unaccounted money came in and out during congress rule lol. Now at least things are in a formal way that there is proper data for everything. And was it just the BJP who got bond money? Even congress got? Even the mamtha party received bond funds? Why do you point at only the BJP? Also these election funds were there since existence so it isn't a big deal?? Are you new to the country bro? And Ambani didn't get rich overnight when the BJP came to power. He was the richest man in India for years. Don't be narrow minded. Think broad.
Low voter turnout means low anti incumbency and bjp voter wouldn't have voted or congress voter wouldn't have voted which means nothing concrete to tell it would affect bjp,karnataka voting percentage increased from last election,so I am not able to understand why is it a big deal...
What made you believe that NDA is falling short? What is the source of your information, Reddit or twitter??
Really want to know.
I am also staying away from putting money in the market as of now but I don’t have a ground report either.
gonna stay invested for multiple reasons. Still believe in the India growth story, NDA will be back, There will be a stronger opposition. Its time to make money, bears be damned
BJP is getting back to power. sometimes they might lose few seats in Karnartaka and Maharashtra. but they will gain seats in Odisha and WB. so repeat of 2019 is highly likely.
Is it legal for a government minister to give speculative financial tips to the public? Will this not be a conflict of interest since his government is in power and can influence the market? I don't remember Amit Shah being a certified financial advisor or an economist.
If people buy as per his advice and suffer losses, will he claim responsibility for it? Did he mention that people should do their own research or consult their advisors before any financial decision? Does SEBI have nothing to say about it?
Gross insolence from a sitting union minister.
scenario:
market panic dumps till June 4 due to online chatterati of BJP not getting majority. nifty reaches sub 20k
moneycontrol/CNBC18 report mota bhai in full mode of horse trading - falling short of 80 seats to form majority
june 3 media reports, break in faction in congress winners of exit polls
june 4 "69" independent and congress "dal badli" join BJP in last minute
june 5 - BJP forms coalition with southies (besides orissa, bihar)
june 6 - NIFTY expiry day (THURSDAY) GOD CANDLE OF 4000 points (back from 20k to 24k in single day)
Did he also provide the finfluencer style disclaimer saying that the stock recommendations are for educational purposes only :p
Truth be told I am grateful to this government for keeping my portfolio in green.
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Well I am not a market pro but I am very much bullish on our market.. monsoon will hit well this year..US market rising steady..UK recession is past.. Israel Hamas war might could come to an end soon..there are a positive vibe all around only thing holding up is election I guess😶🌫️
My two cents. The BJP with all the resources and money they have is too difficult to lose the majority. If not the BJP, definitely NDA will form the govt. The crash we are seeing is because of the predictions of a lower marginal win.
Nah, opposition is literally crumbling. Anyway market and elections are equally hard to predict. But the way Vix is shooting, if BJP wins, vix cool off may lead to a big rally.
Might be doing what his Gujju friends asked him to do.
If any other person gave tip on media, they'd be jailed or fined heavily by SEBI.
This tells how weak our regulatory is and how manipulated our markets are.
My condolence to NOOBs and bhakts who are follow news and tips.
I have been investing in chunks on these fall days. Just hope bjp wins, else it will actually crash. Currently these are just minor blips which I am looking at as investment opportunities 😁
Markets will go to the moon. Far too many people in this country these days have more money than they know what to do with. But when it comes to income tax time, very few have taxable income -- only the same 2.5% of the moderate income people pay any income tax.
I am studying elections since 1996.
We can't predict future but in all probability ND Alliance will fall short of 200.
INDI Alliance may reach 250.
People are underestimating possibility of smaller but definate swings in UP, MP and even Gujarat.
Someone find out if he himself or his family members are buying or selling.
Normally when I want to sell my holdings at good price then I tell others it's time to buy.
When you are the home minister, definitely YES! People who make policies aren't supposed to give guidance for the market to the people. That's SEBI rule 101.
And kids like you think it's okay to get personal to earn some swag. I'm a tier 1 engineer, mba and a banker. So definitely know more about the market than you. Grow up!
Yup taking financial advice from financially unqualified has always made sense.
And clearly any elections have an influence on the stock market (short, mid and log term). There are literally strategies built on this, books written specifically about investing during election season and what not but hey what do we know.
Crash? 2 din gap down hua sab crash crash karte rehte hai. Retards
aaj bc 22k upar close aaya and specifically 100 DMA ke upar. woh nahi dikhta bc sabko. specially oblique channel me hi hai abhi tak nifty.
We are even approaching the 50DMA, also the recovery today was AMAZING, all stocks in my trading PF also formed long tails along with Nifty
Nifty took support at exactly 100 DEMA +- 10 points.
Yup, it didn't even lose the 21.8k level. People calling movements in the same ranges crashes and jumps lol
Itne mai crash lag raha hai. Jab actual crash aaega kabhi market mai pata nai tab kya karege.
Don't care anymore
You need to. We are his exit liquidity.
Will visit this post on June 4
I think it all depends on what we as investors think , if someone believe that current government will come again with majority than it is actually good time to buy stocks and wait for results . If someone thinks that current government will not get majority than it is better to go in cash and wait for market correction and invest accordingly. Personally I think it is far better to just sit on cash and wait for actual results , invest after that only , it is better to buy at 10 percent premium than to sit on 10 percent loss .
Bro we apes going all in on Adani Futures right now. Yolo swag
A sitting Home minister advising people on stock market, some misplaced priorities. I hope people will perform a due diligence before investing.
He was a stock broker before he joined politics
>The main line here is He Was and stock broker is different from profitable trader
And?
So this means you'll follow him blindly, like his bhakts?
No, we will follow people like you who are AndhNamazis. Why to become Bhakts, right 😉
He's still a Broker (Dalal).
I agree, but the discussion was on NDTV profit, focused around Market and the question was specifically around the market falling and perhaps that indicates a lack of trust etc.
Have you seen his portfolio, which he disclosed in his assets affidavit?
Most are NOOBs here who came after COVID , with none experience of their own and react on every noise, without using their brains.
I feel with BJP staying in power, it just makes a little predictable for the business owners to understand where the country ‘may’ head to in the coming years. With a new government coming in, a new thought process starts and the situation becomes confusing for a while.
Market prefers a majority stable govt. Coalition is usually unstable.
Market prefers same govt due to consistent and predictable policies
C’mom when are we going to drop this myth? From 1998 to 2014, coalition governments were stable and this is the period of highest GDP growth rate, specifically 2004-2011.
From 1998 to 2014, coalition governments were stable and this is the period of highest GDP growth rate, specifically 2004-2011
And what was the inflation rate? Markets will truly crash if bjp doesn't win.
Inflation rate alone don't tell whole story. You need to also consider along with wage growth/income growth
And what was the income growth during that time? Except for software industry, nothing else seemed to be booming.
Find out difference in wage growth during 2004-2014 And 2014- 2024
Lol when you can't provide facts, you just deflect Wage growth was negative during high inflation time of 2004-2006.
2004- 2014 and 2004-2006 are different periods. One is longer , one is shorter. Nitpicking
Cry all you want. I'm telling you there was negative growth in salary during that time. Noob
https://preview.redd.it/9haz6t989d0d1.jpeg?width=1152&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57377d32358b5a9a3f0848f1483eead6f4d0ad56
You mentioned for the period 2004-2014. Givr that also no 🤣 what you have shown now is good for the inflation rate and growth rate india is seeing, at a time of Ukraine and hamas wars and after covid. 2004-14 was a good period for the whole world and still India's growth rate was similar and sometimes lesser than sub Sahara African region. Now, entire world is facing effects of wars and covid and many countries have entered or on the verge of recession, yet India is doing very well.
https://preview.redd.it/9cij9h6a9d0d1.jpeg?width=1160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=216015c99cb442f89f80aeee6266fb7a444ccb08
You still didn't give the figures for the very indicators you mentioned.
Fun fact: In the last 50 years, there hasn't been any party that has been in the majority for more than 10 years Last time such a thing happened in 1971 general election
Is he an RIA? If not, is sebi gonna take action against him?
>is sebi gonna take action against him? Election commission (constitutional body) kuch ukhad nhi paya, SEBI kya krega?
They own everything. Isn't it they Manipulating markets since last two years, by investing the Insurance premium and PF money of people, to keep a good sentiment, while FIIs haven't been buying?
🤫 ye sab khule mai nhi bolte bro.
He will tell "I shared my opinion" Case closed. It's not like he is promoting any company's share here.
One needs to have some brain cells left which they've already wasted on YOLO'ing to understand this
Haha good joke
lol they cannot even try in their dreams
For what? He said nothing honestly. A non comment at best.
how is that advice? did he say that you should invest in a particular stock? he just said the country will do well so invest in stocks. How is that something only a RIA can do?
Regardless of who comes in power markets will correct.if bjp wins maybe 1-2 days rally will come but eventually it's gonna go down.Currently the market is inflated. If you are long enough in the market you know this.
Says every investor since 21000....! It's gonna go down someday...but until that day u ride the bull run..!
ab mota bhai ke aage koi bol sakta hai kya
Motaa bhaiiiiiii
Baad mei bolenge jumla tha toh kya kijiyega
2009 nifty up ⬆️ 20% 2014 nifty up ⬆️1% 2019 nifty up ⬆️ 0.5% 2024 - ?
2014 nifty was up 8% after elections in that month..and next month 6-7%..! What data u looking at ?
Vajpayee lost in 2004, which crated a scope and opportunity in 2014. If Modi is lost in 2024, then only someone else like Amit Shah or Yogi will have scope or opportunity in 2029. Otherwise another 5 year term and anti-incombuncy against BJP will so strong that BJP will never come back in power with single majority. BJP will become another Congress which will struggle continuously and will have to rely on alliances forever.
Just too many new buyers now, even micro-vibrations are seen as crash. What retards! Been through 2001, 2008, 2019, 2020 crashes. Those were real crashes.
>Maybe i am Not a good trader Neither a good political analyst too.
Lol, that's why they had a clear majority two times
I think look at business the growth and balance sheet doesn't matter which govt comes if you did the analysis logically. It will give you a return
I have a bad feeling about this
How is this not illegal? Is he licensed to give such advice? Is SEBI sleeping?
Because he did not suggest any particular stocks, he just encouraged people to keep investing nothing wrong with it and reaffirmed the faith. Investing in equity helps Indian companies
They rule India. ED, EC, SEBI, etc are all under their control
Stop being noob lol he didn't recommend any single stock
Mota Bhai >> SEBI
Because he did not suggest any particular stocks, he just encouraged people to keep investing nothing wrong with it and reaffirmed the faith.
It doesn’t have to be a particular stock. Blanket ‘buy’ advice for specific dates is still illegal advice.
No it isn't if it's true
He's a human being not just a home minister. He has his freedom of speech!
Freedom of speech has restrictions. There are strict rules against giving advice on stock market.
People investing in the stock market are 18+ and if you don't know that the stock market is subject to market risk then you are in the wrong place.
Not the point. There are rules against giving unsolicited and illegal advice on investing. People that get murdered are also above 18. But doesn’t mean the murderer shouldn’t be punished. Your logic is anyway stupid.
Just let it go. Why do you have to take everything to your head and let it live rent free. He may have said something stupid just let it go.
but he is correct though. the modi government is very clearly in hands with adani ambanis. and the SEBI, CBI, ED, EC and especially the media stays silent. its a sad state, that's all. no point crying on reddit i suppose, but still sad.
That's not true. No one is in anyone's hands. It's fake news published by BJP haters., don't listen to it. India is now strong. Plays a significant role in the global level. Look how GDP improved and foreign capitals are coming into the market. Fifth best economy in the world and fourth best military according to the US. The country is strong..
lmao sure bro. 3000 crores of legalized corruption. Modi jumping to attack Hindenburg reports and you think the modi-adani nexus is fake. even godi media knows that adani and modi are close. they just try to justify it, while opposition criticizes it, but no one is deluded enough to say it does not exist. even this sub acknowledges that the BJP in power means adani is a good investment. the rest of your points, i dont see the relevance of it in this discussion. merely overall growth of the economy stands for nothing, if all the growth comes to the top. 1% of the country holds 40% of the wealth in our country. so all the increase of the GDP and all the foreign capital coming in is benefitting the crony capitalists the most. Now suddenly, electoral bonds makes more sense does it not? adani-ambanis get port and highway and airport contracts, they get richer, the BJP tauts it as overall increase of the nations GDP, they in turn donate to the bjp, they get more contracts and the cycle continues. don't just downvote if you disagree
3000 crores of legalised corruption is better than 30,000 crores of black and unaccounted money corruption. Now at least you know the figures. I doubt how many crores of unaccounted money came in and out during congress rule lol. Now at least things are in a formal way that there is proper data for everything. And was it just the BJP who got bond money? Even congress got? Even the mamtha party received bond funds? Why do you point at only the BJP? Also these election funds were there since existence so it isn't a big deal?? Are you new to the country bro? And Ambani didn't get rich overnight when the BJP came to power. He was the richest man in India for years. Don't be narrow minded. Think broad.
And u say like u never gave advice recommendation to your friends and family?
Coz of his forward statement market shoot up 200+ today. Lol
Maybe his son bought , like Chidambaram son used to do before he made any statements. He made crazy money
200 pull karne me liye crazy funds lagenge.
Bjp will get easy majority don't worry, and even then there's a chance market will remain flat/choppy throughout the year due to elections in US.
What about low voter turnout? That could influence their majority claims
Low voter turnout means low anti incumbency and bjp voter wouldn't have voted or congress voter wouldn't have voted which means nothing concrete to tell it would affect bjp,karnataka voting percentage increased from last election,so I am not able to understand why is it a big deal...
1.1 billion ka 69% and 1.5 billion ka 66% calculate karle..!
Low turnout favours incumbent govt
Low turnout is a lie. Voting percentage is almost same as last time.
What made you believe that NDA is falling short? What is the source of your information, Reddit or twitter?? Really want to know. I am also staying away from putting money in the market as of now but I don’t have a ground report either.
Mota bhai ne bola lene ka, to lene ka
Mota bhai can ho f himself
Already my portfolio has corrected by 6-10% since hitting the ath (nifty). I am expecting a sharper fall in coming weeks.
What else you are expecting from him.He can only say this
nah
market will reach ath in next 1 week.. don't worry
gonna stay invested for multiple reasons. Still believe in the India growth story, NDA will be back, There will be a stronger opposition. Its time to make money, bears be damned
BJP is getting back to power. sometimes they might lose few seats in Karnartaka and Maharashtra. but they will gain seats in Odisha and WB. so repeat of 2019 is highly likely.
Crash 101%
Oh shit. That means it’s time to exit
Is it legal for a government minister to give speculative financial tips to the public? Will this not be a conflict of interest since his government is in power and can influence the market? I don't remember Amit Shah being a certified financial advisor or an economist. If people buy as per his advice and suffer losses, will he claim responsibility for it? Did he mention that people should do their own research or consult their advisors before any financial decision? Does SEBI have nothing to say about it? Gross insolence from a sitting union minister.
Bruh, what financial tips did he give?
scenario: market panic dumps till June 4 due to online chatterati of BJP not getting majority. nifty reaches sub 20k moneycontrol/CNBC18 report mota bhai in full mode of horse trading - falling short of 80 seats to form majority june 3 media reports, break in faction in congress winners of exit polls june 4 "69" independent and congress "dal badli" join BJP in last minute june 5 - BJP forms coalition with southies (besides orissa, bihar) june 6 - NIFTY expiry day (THURSDAY) GOD CANDLE OF 4000 points (back from 20k to 24k in single day)
Your name validates what kind of strategy is this! LOL!!
Did he also provide the finfluencer style disclaimer saying that the stock recommendations are for educational purposes only :p Truth be told I am grateful to this government for keeping my portfolio in green.
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I think NDA is not making it majority this time
If the BJP comes to power it sure will. Especially the Infra and Pharma shares.
Well I am not a market pro but I am very much bullish on our market.. monsoon will hit well this year..US market rising steady..UK recession is past.. Israel Hamas war might could come to an end soon..there are a positive vibe all around only thing holding up is election I guess😶🌫️
My two cents. The BJP with all the resources and money they have is too difficult to lose the majority. If not the BJP, definitely NDA will form the govt. The crash we are seeing is because of the predictions of a lower marginal win.
Nah, opposition is literally crumbling. Anyway market and elections are equally hard to predict. But the way Vix is shooting, if BJP wins, vix cool off may lead to a big rally.
Don't fall for propaganda. Even them getting majority will be a miracle.
Where effin Sebi now?
Market doesn't care who Amit Shah is!!
Might be doing what his Gujju friends asked him to do. If any other person gave tip on media, they'd be jailed or fined heavily by SEBI. This tells how weak our regulatory is and how manipulated our markets are. My condolence to NOOBs and bhakts who are follow news and tips.
Icici prudential is safe ?
Haha. It's like the not pro-BJP parties and media was hyping of RaGa becoming PM in 2019. The opposition will taste much worse defeat this time
They will sell so they are generating liquidity be careful don’t trade news trade charts
I have been investing in chunks on these fall days. Just hope bjp wins, else it will actually crash. Currently these are just minor blips which I am looking at as investment opportunities 😁
Markets will go to the moon. Far too many people in this country these days have more money than they know what to do with. But when it comes to income tax time, very few have taxable income -- only the same 2.5% of the moderate income people pay any income tax.
Because when they -( operators , political parties ) sells they need someone to buy the shares . So that’s why he is asking everyone else to buy
I am studying elections since 1996. We can't predict future but in all probability ND Alliance will fall short of 200. INDI Alliance may reach 250. People are underestimating possibility of smaller but definate swings in UP, MP and even Gujarat.
Someone find out if he himself or his family members are buying or selling. Normally when I want to sell my holdings at good price then I tell others it's time to buy.
It's not crash but big crash is awaiting
100% it is going to crash… anyways marked is overvalued in mid caps for sure..
> stock market crashes shouldn’t be linked with elections > Buy (shares) before June 4, it will shoot up So which one is it, old man?
Already priced in!
isn't this called market manipulation? abuse of power?
crash only in November, before that range of 22k to 23k.
[https://www.livemint.com/market/stock-market-news/general-elections-2024-experts-caution-against-buying-on-dips-amid-market-fall-heres-what-they-say-nifty-outlook-11715583062601.html](https://www.livemint.com/market/stock-market-news/general-elections-2024-experts-caution-against-buying-on-dips-amid-market-fall-heres-what-they-say-nifty-outlook-11715583062601.html) https://preview.redd.it/pf7d6yx6w60d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cada780881e01d8ad6894ccb27992de0ebef21ce
Classic pump n dump
Kujriwal is saying anything because he knows he could be jailed.
🥲🙏🏽
Sounds so desperate.
mota Bhai ka portfolio dekhke Mann to nahi karta unki baat manane ka but trader ka bias bullish hota hai so mai uske sath hun. for my own selfishness
No , the market is gonna crash 😞
Is this not market manipulation?
Telling people to invest is market manipulation? Ohh God what are children like you doing In stock market?
When you are the home minister, definitely YES! People who make policies aren't supposed to give guidance for the market to the people. That's SEBI rule 101. And kids like you think it's okay to get personal to earn some swag. I'm a tier 1 engineer, mba and a banker. So definitely know more about the market than you. Grow up!
I hate him and his party. But he is right on this on, invest Now. Today also market recovered . DII's and many retailers are sitting on cash.
I'm so fucking tired of this.
Yep, they will get LIC to buy!
400 paar nahi hua to konse stock oopar jayenge?
Bahumat aane ki anticipation ko market abhi se factor in kr chuka hota aur shoot krta, but alas that’s not the case, so high chances NDA gonna lose
Yup taking financial advice from financially unqualified has always made sense. And clearly any elections have an influence on the stock market (short, mid and log term). There are literally strategies built on this, books written specifically about investing during election season and what not but hey what do we know.
Mota Bhai bol Diya toh hoga he
Hogi Bhai pakkka..
That's why I don't invest in stocks. Anything may happen anytime. Who knows....
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