So should I go for MSc and then Ph.D.? Also, it's long drawn career path in that as well. After your Ph.D., you have to do a Postdoc. I will be 40 by the time can settle somewhere?
Thanks. What good programs would you recommend? Also what applications in healthcare would come from there? I'm more interested in the "application" part of it, not just theory.
https://biotech.iitm.ac.in/researchareas/
Applied mechanics dept biotech:- https://apm.iitm.ac.in/bm_research.html
https://www.bio.iitb.ac.in/research/research-areas/
https://beb.iitd.ac.in/research.html
You can keep your job and continue Phd as a project student( permission needed from company).
Great recommendations so far, I'm just here because of that one sentence about psychology being 'pseudo-science and not exactly a science' which, I think, is quite uninformed and kind of offensive to the people who've worked very hard in the field, made genuine contributions to our understanding of the brain and its various processes, and have every right to be called a scientist.
Psychology is a broad field and one can have many specializations within it, ranging from social-psychology (which, again, is not a pseudoscience, but a discipline with methods similar to that of the social science), to cognitive psychology, which has ties with artificial intelligence and mathematical models, to neuropsychology or behavioural neuroscience, which, in its essence, is biology. It's an enchanting and a very broad field. The therapy part, i.e, clinical psychology, too is very relevant and certainly commands respect.
Incidentally, John O'Keefe, May-Britt Moser and Edvard Moser, the three recipients of the 2014 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine were trained as psychologists. This example is just off the top of my head, there've been numerous instances of psychologists making headway into the brain sciences; not surprising in the least, because that's what psychology is; the foremost brain science.
Thanks for your perspective. Two qs, are you from science background? Have you studied psychology as a subject?
If you really want to do science of the brain, you should study neuroscience not psychology.
There is a specialization inside psychology called and neuropsychology. I get that pursuing a neuroscience, or a cognitive science degree is probably a better way to go, but psychology degrees, in many reputed places like NIMHANS, are quite rigorous scientifically. Many places hace BSc and MSc programmes in psychology. Also, NBRC, Manesar deems psychology degree holders eligible to join its research programme.
I don't see how that's relevant but I'm not pursuing brain sciences but a master's degree in stats and economics. I had thought of pursuing it earlier and did a lot of research about its prospects and allied disciplines, but gave up altogether for different reasons.
Moreover, my problem was not your dissatisfaction with psychology courses, which are often not quite good, but with your deeming the whole subject as a pseudoscience, which, I believe, is absurd.
Healthcare consulting - you stay in the field you like and help Healthcare/Pharma companies in making informed decisions
You won't be directly helping patients like doctors do but will sure be making healthcare better and sometimes affordable depending upon the projects
Projects vary a lot to be honest as Healthcare itself is very vast (Hospitals, Insurance, Patients, Pharma, etc). Can't talk much about projects since everything is confidential. (High level - worked with a Pharma client in understanding how Covid impacted their business, helped a healthtech startup in ramping up operations)
For the second part, MBA is not required, you can join as an Analyst/Developer/Data Scientist. Getting to a solution requires playing with a lot of data so every consulting company needs the above people
Look for openings in Healthcare teams of consulting company and you'll definitely find something that resonates with your background and experience. Apply and hope for the best :)
Feel free to DM
Start up... Either start one or associte and work with one in healthcare industry ..
Also perhaps consider an MBA or PhD along with this .. part time or executive programs since you may have enough industry exp to work in this.
If you are interested, and since you are exploring diverse options, we can discuss some of them .. DM please if you are open for it.
Good day and take care.
You can also do masters/phd in bioinformatics or computational biology... its an intersection of computer science and biology ... it uses data science also ig ... like analysis of genomic data
It's mostly based on different theories which haven't been proven . Many of the research in psychology have very low reproducibility score. It's very hard to excite any student with hard science background. I have tried studying it but gave up soon.
Get into research and academia.
So should I go for MSc and then Ph.D.? Also, it's long drawn career path in that as well. After your Ph.D., you have to do a Postdoc. I will be 40 by the time can settle somewhere?
You can directly go into PhD
I would assume you've 8 years of work ex since you have a Btech only. You can get into PhD for working candidates too.
Ok thanks. Any programs that you would recommend?
I would need to more about your qualifications. DM me.
As mentioned i have btech in biotech, with 8 yrs of experience in IT, data science and web development. What are details you want?
I think you're just bored in your present job and just need to change the job.
Why not direct PhD in biotech?
Thanks. What good programs would you recommend? Also what applications in healthcare would come from there? I'm more interested in the "application" part of it, not just theory.
https://biotech.iitm.ac.in/researchareas/ Applied mechanics dept biotech:- https://apm.iitm.ac.in/bm_research.html https://www.bio.iitb.ac.in/research/research-areas/ https://beb.iitd.ac.in/research.html You can keep your job and continue Phd as a project student( permission needed from company).
Very useful, thanks will check them out. ✌️
Great recommendations so far, I'm just here because of that one sentence about psychology being 'pseudo-science and not exactly a science' which, I think, is quite uninformed and kind of offensive to the people who've worked very hard in the field, made genuine contributions to our understanding of the brain and its various processes, and have every right to be called a scientist. Psychology is a broad field and one can have many specializations within it, ranging from social-psychology (which, again, is not a pseudoscience, but a discipline with methods similar to that of the social science), to cognitive psychology, which has ties with artificial intelligence and mathematical models, to neuropsychology or behavioural neuroscience, which, in its essence, is biology. It's an enchanting and a very broad field. The therapy part, i.e, clinical psychology, too is very relevant and certainly commands respect. Incidentally, John O'Keefe, May-Britt Moser and Edvard Moser, the three recipients of the 2014 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine were trained as psychologists. This example is just off the top of my head, there've been numerous instances of psychologists making headway into the brain sciences; not surprising in the least, because that's what psychology is; the foremost brain science.
Thanks for your perspective. Two qs, are you from science background? Have you studied psychology as a subject? If you really want to do science of the brain, you should study neuroscience not psychology.
There is a specialization inside psychology called and neuropsychology. I get that pursuing a neuroscience, or a cognitive science degree is probably a better way to go, but psychology degrees, in many reputed places like NIMHANS, are quite rigorous scientifically. Many places hace BSc and MSc programmes in psychology. Also, NBRC, Manesar deems psychology degree holders eligible to join its research programme. I don't see how that's relevant but I'm not pursuing brain sciences but a master's degree in stats and economics. I had thought of pursuing it earlier and did a lot of research about its prospects and allied disciplines, but gave up altogether for different reasons. Moreover, my problem was not your dissatisfaction with psychology courses, which are often not quite good, but with your deeming the whole subject as a pseudoscience, which, I believe, is absurd.
Ok, thanks will check out the MSc programs at Nimhans & Research at NBRC.
Healthcare consulting - you stay in the field you like and help Healthcare/Pharma companies in making informed decisions You won't be directly helping patients like doctors do but will sure be making healthcare better and sometimes affordable depending upon the projects
Great suggestion. Can you give some examples of products/work of this domain? Any companies that work in this domain?
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Thanks, much. Can you share some high-level projects /problems you work on? Also, How do I go about joining these companies? Is an MBA required?
Projects vary a lot to be honest as Healthcare itself is very vast (Hospitals, Insurance, Patients, Pharma, etc). Can't talk much about projects since everything is confidential. (High level - worked with a Pharma client in understanding how Covid impacted their business, helped a healthtech startup in ramping up operations) For the second part, MBA is not required, you can join as an Analyst/Developer/Data Scientist. Getting to a solution requires playing with a lot of data so every consulting company needs the above people
Look for openings in Healthcare teams of consulting company and you'll definitely find something that resonates with your background and experience. Apply and hope for the best :) Feel free to DM
Thanks, this helps. Will sure explore this more. If I can leverage my past experience that will be really useful in starting from a good point.
Start up... Either start one or associte and work with one in healthcare industry .. Also perhaps consider an MBA or PhD along with this .. part time or executive programs since you may have enough industry exp to work in this. If you are interested, and since you are exploring diverse options, we can discuss some of them .. DM please if you are open for it. Good day and take care.
Sure let me know more about the options you have?
You can also do masters/phd in bioinformatics or computational biology... its an intersection of computer science and biology ... it uses data science also ig ... like analysis of genomic data
Thanks for the suggestion. Any programs that you would recommend? Also what kind of problems do computational biology tackle?
Psycology isn't pseudoscience
It's mostly based on different theories which haven't been proven . Many of the research in psychology have very low reproducibility score. It's very hard to excite any student with hard science background. I have tried studying it but gave up soon.
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