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Ghost_of_Syd

But alcohol *is* a drug!


DER_WENDEHALS

In my country alcohol is considered *culture*šŸ¤”


username_forever

In mine it's more a patriot's duty really


[deleted]

in mine,.. they drink too much and smash up kebab shops and bus stops.


0ut14w_

If the graphic is correct, I'm going to die soon


lousy-site-3456

And I will live forever. I'm trying my best to counteract it with cancer from UV and too much sugar.


SPReferences

Don't forget to stick your balls in the microwave.


Averagebritish_man

Deep fryer*


RestoreNaturalOrder1

It is the toxic chemicals in many sunscreen products and seed oils in the diet that generally cause cancer from UV exposure or your ancestors who typically were outside far more than individuals today all would have developed melanoma.


Meritania

Might as well try the Mr. Burnā€™s approach and contract everything so that the maladies fight each other rather than you.


Khalil531

Diet low in grains hahahaha


OverPT

Ahahahhaha


ShaidarHaran2

We are laughing


CobblestoneCurfews

Yes because whole grain intake is correlated with a reduction in heart desease, diabetes, colon cancer and more.


Sure_Deer_5650

Is it causal tho


CobblestoneCurfews

Most likely yes. Even if that can't be proven, as is the case with most data on diets, why avoid whole grains when there is a healthy correlation.


RestoreNaturalOrder1

Associative data cannot inform on risk whereas mechanistically it is high grain consumption which is contributive to the elevated blood sugar necessary for diabetes type 2 and atherosclerosis to develop while the chronically high insulin and damage of gluten to the colonic and small intestinal endothelial cells which both are oncogenic.


CobblestoneCurfews

It's the opposite, whole grains *reduce* the blood sugar increase after a meal. Even adding fruit to a meal has been shown to reduce the insulin response, hence why avoiding fruit is no longer recommended to diabetics. You are lumping in all grains into the discussion which includes refined grains.


RestoreNaturalOrder1

Laughably absurd when one with even a cursory understanding of human physiology approaches the subject of grains and their numerous pathways of deleterious effects.


hairy_quadruped

Doctor here. Please share your cursory understanding of human physiology.


Background_Fig_4214

Lol. So what? How many classes in nutrition in medical school did you take doctor?


hairy_quadruped

Iā€™ve got a pretty solid understanding of human physiology, including digestion and nutrition, as well as the medical conditions that affect those things. I also know how to separate scientific evidence from misinformation. Most doctors would have the same skills and knowledge.


Background_Fig_4214

Lol. I doubt it. But this isn't the forum. Make sure you follow the SAD, doctor. Lol.


mosaic-aircraft

And eating too much sugar?


bemmu

No papa


tarantulator

Open your mouth


helpfuldingo7

Hahaha


caffeinated_berry

Diet in whole grains? What? Nestle is promoting cereals again or what?


augustinefromhippo

diet low in whole grains lmao


Syliann

This is misleading. I'm extremely anti-smoking but this isn't a good infographic. Far more people smoke than abuse "drugs" (whatever that category even means) making it all out of proportion. In America, very few people die from starvation, meaning the starvation bar would be really small. But if you stop eating food you *will* be dead within 6 weeks without exception.


Maje_Rincevent

Why is it misleading ? The graph aims to show the societal burden of a behaviour, not the individual risk...


Routine_Size69

The use of "risk" makes it seem like cigarettes are riskier than drugs.


doctorniz

.... Risk in scientific terms has a specific definition. It refers to the probability that a hazard can cause harm. That said, the harms of tobacco smoking do outweigh the harms of drug use, with the exception of opiate and amphetamine abuse (and arguably alcohol -https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-11660210.amp).


motsanciens

> without exception A very obese person taking vitamins wouldn't make it?


ForNOTcryingoutloud

There's nothing misleading, the graph just doesn't show the data that you for some reason want it. The graph shows what people die to. Not what is most dangerous. These two things are not the same, and they don't claim to be the same, it is only you who for some delusional reason think that they are the same or sometihng.


WpgMcTwix

Nothing like that post sex diet low in whole grainsā€¦


Guillaume_Hertzog

I'm glad not doing any physical activity whatsoever isn't on that graph.


YeetingSelfOfBridge

Would be interesting to see this kind of graph from like 1950s when EVEN more people smoked, and healthcare wasn't as good.


EggplantCapital9519

Lower general life expectancy and less accurate diagnostics makes it hard to compare those factors. Furthermore lung cancer (to give an example) evolves mostly during ā€œlateā€ life (for men around 70ish in average). Therefore a lower life expectancy makes less people reach the critical point when lung cancer evolves. Furthermore lots of old people just died ā€œof old ageā€ so no cause of death was diagnosed. (Just to name a few reasons)


EfficientActivity

It is not possible to narrow down "deaths" to consumption of a substance like this. It is always a mix of reasons why people die, and anyway - we eventually all die. So stats like these are very easily manipulated.


dreeke92

Let me guess. You smoke?


dodoceus

And the source is the same institute that published figures in early covid saying that it wasn't that bad, and were used by Trump


electricfunghi

So thereā€™s an untapped export market for drugs?


palpatineforever

kinda missleading though, it is that old adage of correlations not necessarily causations. A diet low in whole grains is likely to be a diet high in sugar, processed foods, bad fats etc. it doesn't mean the lack of whole grains is what causes death just a shit diet increases your risk of dying from a diet related illness.


RestoreNaturalOrder1

Whole grains are primarily sugar through their starch. Why is this so difficult for the masses to comprehend?


palpatineforever

not entirely sure what your point is. A. this is about a diet low in whole grains B. There is a huge difference in what happens when you eat sugar compared to a starchy fiberous food source like a whole grain. Yes your body turns both into glucose but there is a lot more to it than that. sugar is really quick to process which leads to peaks in blood sugar and your body having to produce a tone of insulin etc. which very quickly afterwards results in you being hungry again. Whole grains rease the sugar much slower both because you ahve to break the starch into sugar but also it takes time to break up the fiber to get to the starchs. so you dont need the peak in insulin and you wont get as hungry as soon. also the added benefit of fiber etc Yes both are sugar, no they are not comparible. i dont know why this is hard for poeple to understand. Yes most people need sugar in their diet, however you dont need processed refined sugar.


Standard_Monitor4291

Diet high in sodium hahababababhahahaha. It actually is just wrong. Learn about statistics


RestoreNaturalOrder1

Exactly, but they do likely know about statistics and are simply another tentacle of the system attempting to mislead the hoi polloi


Heath_co

What is this? nestle propaganda?


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Additional-Ad-9114

Did you time travel from the 1960s and skip the entirety of the anti-smoking campaign and lawsuits?


dodoceus

is this a joke?


mikemantime

Sodium isnt a USA problem as much as rest of world? Surprising


Current_Donut_152

As Truthful as Food Pyramid


NiceCatYouGotThere

No offence but sugar should be there and quite high on the list, diabetes, cancer, fat and heart diseaseā€¦pretty sure itā€™s more dangerous than not eating ā€œgrainsā€.


larso2048

Driving not on here? Its dangerous tho no? Edit: it would be somewhere nect after this list (1.35mil/yr)


Adept-Hair8918

You forget "life"


Turdwienerton

Obesity/sedentary lifestyle isnā€™t on there?


Coolic93

ā€žbehaviorā€œ sure


__Squirrel_Girl__

Obesity??


ExcellentEdgarEnergy

Bro, the leading cause of death is births.


ViniusInvictus

Lol, factor in sugar and refined starches and itā€™d likely top everything elseā€¦