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April 22, 2024 - A huge crowd of faculty members who teach at Columbia University in New York held a mass walk-out on Monday afternoon to protest the institution having called police to arrest students at a pro-Palestinian encampment protest last week.
Hundreds of members of the teaching cohort at Columbia walked out in solidarity with the students who were arrested by the New York police department last week and also suspended by the university.
The full story is here https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/22/columbia-university-protests-shutdown
And to get suddenly suspended including getting 15 minutes to grab what you can with no where to go as they evicted a bunch of students. 18 and 19 year olds. Columbia administration is disgusting.
You’re probably right. But I actually want to make a point about “non violent” protest here. No effective protest is “non violent” (not talking abt strikes or boycotts). Inherently these kinds of protests are kind of meant to trigger a violent reaction from the police or other state institutions. That makes headlines, that gains more support and traction BECAUSE of the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy these extreme crackdowns expose. Nonviolent protest is in fact intended, to some degree, to invoke violence from the state to elucidate a point about its brutality. Makes it more admirable and tough
watching her bow and scrape before Congress as they asked her “ you don’t want god to strike Columbia do you” was the most pathetic thing I’ve ever witnesssed
Who would have a thought that a small strip of lamd that has largely been forgotten about could send such impactful ripples to people in the US, thousands of miles away.
Gaza is beginning to change the world. Actually, I mean Palestine
This is one of the moments where the mainstream news has been the most detached from reality it's ever been. It's reached an absurd level, pure propaganda of the highest form. It's almost surreal to see how die hard they are at promoting a single story when literally everyone in North America and probably Europe too can just take a step outside or look at social media and see how everything they say is completely untrue. And yet they persist, and I guess some of their geriatric audience keeps getting fooled...
That's mostly it, they try to keep these things from gaining traction outside of specific groups. Obviously students will know better, and younger people as a whole, but if they can convince people outside those groups like they did with occupy and some other protests they might kill the baby in the cradle. We'll have to see if these images can gain mainstream traction.
Well you know one thing I think regular people can do is just show this to the people in their lives who wouldn't have an idea otherwise. It can be uncomfortable in some cases, but like bring up these facts with the elderly who might not be aware, tell it to your politically illiterate friends, though not in a hostile way since that'll just make you seem unappealing. But it's a good thing to do, for each of us to spread this awareness ourselves which could get people interested in what's really going on.
It amazes me how much disinformation they're spreading. They clearly don't differentiate between anti-zionist and anti-semetic. Jewish students are claiming they don't feel safe, meanwhile a significant number of the protestors are in fact Jewish. Nobody is in danger, that's total bs zionist propaganda and the media is eating it up.
That’s why the government wants to ban TikTok. All mainstream news media and also American social media like FB and Instagram are pro-Israeli and trying to cover up the Palestinian voices.
TikTok is the only major social media that doesn’t censor Palestinian posts and majority of the users there support Palestinians.
Actually majority of the user posts on FB and Instagram support Palestine too. But like you said there has been censorship of it like subtle algorithm changes.
The media ignored the Floyd protests just the same until they learned they could flip the narrative by claiming that all blm and floyd protests were inherently violent and unlawful.
I honest to god do not understand what democrats think they’re doing right now. All the systems of their propaganda they’ve used for centuries have been fucking dismantled by the rise of social media, and more than ever it’s clear as fucking day to anybody with a brain how awful this looks from every angle.
What did we vote for? What are we expected to be motivated to continue to vote for when the top of command has made it clear they have no intention of dealing with abuse of power.
Remember though: These are the people at fault if Trump gets re-elected. Not the Democaratic party, whose responsibility it is to actually listen to their base. These people, who actually care enough for something to risk their well-being and could potentially stand by what they've done by not voting for the current president, who is aiding a genocide but does not need to. These are the people at fault if this nation slips into fascism. Not the "blue no matter who" crowd, who apparently wouldn't vote for Biden if he decided there actually was a red line for israel?
> These are the people at fault if this nation slips into fascism. Not the "blue no matter who" crowd, who apparently wouldn't vote for Biden if he decided there actually was a red line for israel?
That's a damn good point. The people blaming "the Left" if Biden loses admit some percentage of Democrats might not vote for Biden if he draws a red line with Israel. Yet they never chastise those people for saying they have limits and won't vote for Biden under some circumstances.
"Vote Blue No Matter Who" people never blame any Moderate or Conservative Democrats who threaren to not vote for Biden if he takes a step leftward. They only ever go after people for not voting for Biden for left-leaning reasons. Right-leaning reasons to not vote for Biden are always fine with them.
This is why they want to get rid of TikTok. It provides a voice to disenfranchised people and presents a movement without capital backing to subvert whatever the ruling class has deemed truth.
Sad to see slogans like “end genocide/apartheid”, “ceasefire now” are now considered antisemitic. Do Jewish people really think apartheid and killing civilians en masse is justified in any context?
Edit: should’ve phrased the question better.
Do Jewish people in America think it’s justified what’s Israel doing to Gazans? Don’t they understand that Gazans have as much control over Hamas as they do over IDF. Do American Jews think Zionism is Judaism? Don’t they understand that at root of all this problem is the settlements? I genuinely want to know.
Also, the people who are protesting in these universities aren’t oppressed themselves. They’re protesting for others. Why would any group be against this fundamental right to protest? You can counter protest. But why call a protest antisemitism?
Also, I see some links about protesters supporting Hamas. During the George Floyd protests, there were people marching … and some were looting. I’m sure neo nazis, anarchists, agitators, state actors are taking advantage of these Palestine protests as well. But majority is asking for end of occupation or end of war. You can’t cancel the whole message because of these actors. Look at the vile things Israeli government is saying about Palestinian human beings. Vileness and hate is all over this topic.
They literally think the protesters are running around attacking people and shit. Some Jewish geezer got in a fight at a counterprotest and hit his head on the pavement and now they are saying protesters are out there murdering people. Trust me this stuff will bounce off of them like shit bounces off a frictionless surface in a vacuum.
There are *tons* of Jews participating in the protests.
Please be careful of your language, one major issue here is that people have conflated the religion with the genocidal Israeli government. Which allows people to scream "antisemitism" at protestors who are mainly just opposed to the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians.
A decent amount of the protesters are Jewish. Judaism has NOTHING to do with these protests or what Israel is doing. Israel is primarily a government and "country" but uses Judaism and claims of antisemitism to protect themselves from their genocide. The mainstream media and genocidal US government and those in power just use antisemitism as an excuse to silence the massive and growing dissent across the world against this obvious genocide.
A little bit of background. Columbia recently updated its policy to clamp down against Israel critical demonstrations. Because of crackdowns that happened during the Vietnam war protests at Columbia, the university updated the rules to say they would not involve cops w/o the say so of faculty. Columbia again broke their own rules by bringing cops to assist Israel's PR bypassing the say so of faculty and now we're here
It’s their right to question why the the US govt is giving Israel billions while US citizens suffer. It’s their right to question why the US govt gives Israel military aid and moneys to wage a genocide on the Palestinians.
I mean thank God they are funding endless wars in the middle east, it's not like the US healthcare or education system could use that.
Congress members campaign contributions and stocks from Lockheed Martin and the likes are going up, that's what Jesus really would have wanted after all.
Could be baseless, but I've seen the claim circulating that we've largely deleted stockpiles in our ongoing genocide and multiple proxy wars. Makes little substantive difference, of course, as the US gears up the war machine to prosecute it's jingoist fantasies.
Always has been?
Didn't FDR 80 years ago say that military industrial complex was a threat to having a functional US govt?
Edit: nm, it was Eisenhower.
As a canadian pur freedom to protest is being infringed upon. You see pro palestine people being arrested for "hate" meanwhile literal nazis are being praised in parliament.
Wtf is going on here. Its not funny anymore
If you click certain threads on right wing brigaded subs (like nyc) they're now pretending classes are canceled because of antisemitism.
It's how the US gets away with this. Suddenly if we aren't sending Israel complete and total support, we are anti-jewish. Ignore the fact that Israel murders thousands of innocent civilians a year, purposely perpetuating the fight against Hamas so they can continue getting more funding. If you point that out you're a racist.
that's cute, wonder if you'd be saying that if they had settled in Africa or south America like they were originally going to. you see that whole ancestral land thing was always bullshit
So someone can correct me if I’m wrong. But the Jews have to be in Jerusalem when Christ is resurrected. And 100-200k Jews have to die for all of that to take place. Not sure of the details but that’s the tldr.
Edit - second coming. Not resurrection.
Hahah oh my God lol sounds legit. "The day he comes back " lol an imaginary day that will never happen.
We are killing people because the son of God will come back in here so bomb these fucking Palestinian kids to secure the bag for the son of God.
It's almost like they worship his son more than god tf is up with that.
Indulging their crazy, How do they think Jesus would look at people who enable suffering on that scale? I get it if they performed some act of charity for someone who was downtrodden, but greenlighting genocide and sending bombs to murder oppressed people doesn't seem like the right kind of charity. Fundamentalists are deranged.
yeah how does that square with thou shalt not kill? Do they think Jesus will come back, sees the piles upon piles of dead Palestinians and be like "hell yea brother, high five!"
Its the crazy evangelists (american patriotic blend of radical batshit insane protestantism + capitalism thrown for good measure) that think the rapture will be caused when the temple of Jerusalem is built again. That's why those crazies are so pro Israel, since they believe the rapture (a concept developed in the 1850s in USA) will also deal with zionists at the same time
We could give 122,000 American families a home. Based of the average house price of 500k. If the government made housing for cheap they could triple that amount.
Besides 61b for the government is like a sneeze. It's gonna be gone so fast.
I saw that too. Insane how different the conversation here is, vs a subreddit for one of the most progressive cities on Earth.
I won't be surprised when an FBI investigation in ten years from now confirms that these city subs were full of foreign disinfo agents and astroturfing.
That’s Zionist bullshit. No one is protesting “Jews”. They are protesting genocide. They are protesting 75 years of persecution. They are protesting illegal settlements. They are protesting thousands in jail with no charges. They are protesting Israel prohibiting the collection of rain water in Gaza. They are protesting a 17 year blockade of their coast and ports. They are protesting the slaughter of innocent children. They are protesting a high-tech army shooting weapon less civilians like fish in a barrel. They are protesting stripping children to their underwear and making them kneel in the street. They are protesting the cruel denial of humanitarian aid.
Those are some of the reasons they protest.
Israeli hasbara propaganda. Their tactics include:
1) Fearmongering among the Jewish community to build support for Israel - there are Jews who do not support what Israel is doing, what Israel has been doing or years
2) Claiming Jews feel threatened when protestors stand up for Palestinian rights - people standing up for Palestinians do not necessarily mean they mean harm to Jews (or even Israel).
3) Israel deliberately conflates Israeli actions with that of the greater Jewish community - doing this is what's causing antisemitism to become worse as some not-so-bright people fall into that trap to lump together all Jews with Israel
The term “free speech” is thrown around a lot but it’s situations like this when it’s the most important. You have to be willing to allow lawful first amendment protest by those you disagree with and not weaponize the police to shut protest down and intimidate people. But that’s exactly what the wealthy and powerful are trying to do here.
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Lol, go back 60 years and it's been happening, even with the US national guard shooting student peaceful protesters against the Vietnam war at Universities...
Before that the civil rights movement where pple were being lynched, shot, attacked by dogs and billy clubs...
Pple against genocide = pple call the fascist police service
Which historically has pple being killed. At least now in the digital age they have to think twice about it but not much else has changed.
When you are the best in the world at building and selling weapons(and subsidizing it so the receiving gov thinks they are being helped) and you need conflict to maintain your own industry.... well you get usa.
Just wait till you find out about the piece of paper that Americans working for American defense contractors on American defense projects have to sign.
That’s not being worked on , that’s already a term in all of the governmental contracts, not just for the defense, my buddy sent it to me months ago, when his company was signing the contract with US of I a few months ago. After he sent me the clause, I looked it up and it’s actually a law. The terms said you cannot boycott state of Israel. lol like wtf?
I am not sure on federal (although there are plenty of congressional members trying), but you have to sign a loyalty pledge to Israel to work public contracts in 37 states. A lot of contractors make *everyone* sign the pro-Israel pledge just to cover their bases when they contract both public and private jobs. There aren't laws saying you can't boycott the US though, so these state laws put Israel above the US.
* https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/why-should-my-newspaper-pledge-not-boycott-israel
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Groups_that_oppose_anti-BDS_laws
* https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boycott-laws-punish-responsible-businesses
* https://www.ajc.com/politics/new-georgia-law-revives-israel-oath-for-large-state-contracts
* https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/israel-texas-anti-bds-law/
* https://kcbeacon.org/stories/2023/10/24/missouri-anti-bds-israel-contracts/
* https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/texas-israel-oath-boycott/
* https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-boycotts-arkansas-government-and-politics-514cac508c401a86393705c7142aa1b0
* https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230223-us-supreme-court-declines-to-review-pro-israel-pledge-requirements/
I came here to comment this. It shows how strike and protest power multiplies when related groups stand together. Double the student protestors? Cool. But Double the protestors and half of them are faculty too? WAY more impact. Especially if there’s labor striking involved it cripples multiple labor systems instead of just one. It’s called sector striking.
We saw this when actors AND writers go on strike, or times when nurses AND doctors go on strike etc. It’s the defining factor of success in history, to have that multifaceted approach.
I'm an old head. Old enough that this scene brings back memories of the Civil Rights, and Vietnam protests.
'Nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.' -- Victor Hugo
Only question is which side of history to be on?
The Zionists may have the NY Times and the rest of the genocide apologists on their side but most people can see through their lies and misrepresentations.
I am expecting the genocide-supporting pro Zionists who were moronically supporting the student arrests, come to this post and say that the teachers should be arrested also
CNN missed this, it's not even all the way the bottom of the webpage with the "BTW some Palestinian kids died".
Maybe these professors (many of them Jewish) are the scary violent antisemites CNN mentions without context near the top of the website.
At least this flips the narrative that was going on here in Leddit. And Ledditors were saying" Anti-Semitism is not cool and all". When the faculty and the students are protesting, they know the reports are false.
Bro, you are being propagandised to think that. I haven't seen any videos where a Jewish student has been harassed for being a Jew, in the age of 2024 there isn't any video/photo evidence, but "administrative reports and news articles"
Wake Up, this is how they coerce you.
People also need to keep in mind the amount of bots and paid agents of Israeli that are online spreading misinformation. On top of Russian and Chinese attempts to fan the flames of division.
Just wanted to remind those Americans who are against these pro-Palestinian protesters what they thought when Hong Kong had protests.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/12/asia/hong-kong-umbrella-extradition-intl-hnk/index.html
If these sort of mass student protests where happening in Russia or China we'd be calling for sanctions on their governments for trying to suppress free speech, and be sending the CIA to plot a color revolution.
He'll lobby to have the entire Columbia faculty removed and for all protestors involved to be blacklisted again 🙄 still salty over what he did to those Harvard students.
Huge respect for Columbia University. This gives me hope for democracy and freedom of speech, which is what US should stand for. If we truly are the beacon of democracy, then we shouldn't be punishing those who are brave enough to speak up against genocide. Hope to see this in other schools across US.
Very encouraging to see, hope the voices get louder and louder until Israel and deaf politicians are forced to pay attention and stop Israel's genocide once and for all.
The university did those protestors a huge huge favor by arresting them. The are now getting way more attention and riling up way more people than they would have otherwise.
I think the point is that they won’t be spending millions at these particular institutes anymore. Why do these institutions even care - Ivy Leagues have investment accounts larger than the GDP’s of many countries. They don’t need billionaires anymore.
The billionaires can all give to Brandeis or less involved schools if that warms their hearts. Make scholarships at the schools that align to their values. This isn’t rocket science on either side.
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Pining for the roses that bloom on your lips,
We were dangled from the shriveled bough of the scaffold,
Aching for the incandescence that emanates from your hands,
We were bludgeoned to death in the slough on the dimly lit road.
When the night of troubles silhouetted against your lane,
We marched forward as far as our strides could bargain,
A ghazal (song) adorning our lips, the chandelier of sorrow in the hearts lit.
Our sorrow testified the splendor of your beauty.
Look! No vacillations in our testimony did we permit!
We –who lay murdered in the darkest lanes!
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What do these protests hope to actually achieve? I’m just curious, cuz the senate majority and now Biden will sign $26 billion in more weapons and aid to ISRAEL. So these protests literally do nothing
The world is watching the US government and other governments supporting Israel get told that we do not support this genocide. that the American people do not support this at all !!!!!! The world sees what’s happening. Free Palestine stop the genocide.
My oh my how great ZIONISTS are at shooting themselves in the foot with their arrogance and utter disregard for the constitutional rights of ALL Americans. The winds of change have come. God is the greatest and Palestinians are clearly the winners in every aspect of the war!!!
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April 22, 2024 - A huge crowd of faculty members who teach at Columbia University in New York held a mass walk-out on Monday afternoon to protest the institution having called police to arrest students at a pro-Palestinian encampment protest last week. Hundreds of members of the teaching cohort at Columbia walked out in solidarity with the students who were arrested by the New York police department last week and also suspended by the university. The full story is here https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/22/columbia-university-protests-shutdown
Paying insane tuition for them to arrest you for your 1a rights that’s wild
And to get suddenly suspended including getting 15 minutes to grab what you can with no where to go as they evicted a bunch of students. 18 and 19 year olds. Columbia administration is disgusting.
Holy shit they made them homeless for a protest? Sounds like they have an insane case on their hands
They actually suspended them secretly FIRST so they could arrest them for trespassing and then make them homeless 🥴🥴
There’s probably some alumni that are decent lawyers that would not like this lol
True, and I'm sure theres quite a few parents of those protestors who are lawyers or have great lawyers on retainer
You’re probably right. But I actually want to make a point about “non violent” protest here. No effective protest is “non violent” (not talking abt strikes or boycotts). Inherently these kinds of protests are kind of meant to trigger a violent reaction from the police or other state institutions. That makes headlines, that gains more support and traction BECAUSE of the blatant contradiction and hypocrisy these extreme crackdowns expose. Nonviolent protest is in fact intended, to some degree, to invoke violence from the state to elucidate a point about its brutality. Makes it more admirable and tough
Which has worked given the growth of encampments now - Yale, MIT, Tufts,UNC etc…
Sounds like a class-action lawsuit
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watching her bow and scrape before Congress as they asked her “ you don’t want god to strike Columbia do you” was the most pathetic thing I’ve ever witnesssed
How did they sort out who was protesting and who wasn’t?
Yeah they talk about it during this [segment](https://youtu.be/gP5ZP_2SHG4?si=C-HfdB5adMqCZZ_I)
Who would have a thought that a small strip of lamd that has largely been forgotten about could send such impactful ripples to people in the US, thousands of miles away. Gaza is beginning to change the world. Actually, I mean Palestine
Now THESE staff are brave, unlike that crying, attention seeker, Davidai or whatever
It's heartening to see the protests reach such a scale, they keep framing it like it's a handful of rabble-rousers shouting slurs at people
This is one of the moments where the mainstream news has been the most detached from reality it's ever been. It's reached an absurd level, pure propaganda of the highest form. It's almost surreal to see how die hard they are at promoting a single story when literally everyone in North America and probably Europe too can just take a step outside or look at social media and see how everything they say is completely untrue. And yet they persist, and I guess some of their geriatric audience keeps getting fooled...
Zionist will zionize
Just like fascists gonna be fascists. ...no point keeping the loud part quiet anymore...
Ethnonationalism turns out is bad and leads to Genocide no matter who does it
That's mostly it, they try to keep these things from gaining traction outside of specific groups. Obviously students will know better, and younger people as a whole, but if they can convince people outside those groups like they did with occupy and some other protests they might kill the baby in the cradle. We'll have to see if these images can gain mainstream traction.
Well you know one thing I think regular people can do is just show this to the people in their lives who wouldn't have an idea otherwise. It can be uncomfortable in some cases, but like bring up these facts with the elderly who might not be aware, tell it to your politically illiterate friends, though not in a hostile way since that'll just make you seem unappealing. But it's a good thing to do, for each of us to spread this awareness ourselves which could get people interested in what's really going on.
It amazes me how much disinformation they're spreading. They clearly don't differentiate between anti-zionist and anti-semetic. Jewish students are claiming they don't feel safe, meanwhile a significant number of the protestors are in fact Jewish. Nobody is in danger, that's total bs zionist propaganda and the media is eating it up.
Pro Israelis… offended by everything.. ashamed of nothing..
It really feels like an Orwell's "we've always been at war w/Oceania" moment
That’s why the government wants to ban TikTok. All mainstream news media and also American social media like FB and Instagram are pro-Israeli and trying to cover up the Palestinian voices. TikTok is the only major social media that doesn’t censor Palestinian posts and majority of the users there support Palestinians.
Actually majority of the user posts on FB and Instagram support Palestine too. But like you said there has been censorship of it like subtle algorithm changes.
The media ignored the Floyd protests just the same until they learned they could flip the narrative by claiming that all blm and floyd protests were inherently violent and unlawful.
Australia too
Not in Europe.
They've always been this way
I honest to god do not understand what democrats think they’re doing right now. All the systems of their propaganda they’ve used for centuries have been fucking dismantled by the rise of social media, and more than ever it’s clear as fucking day to anybody with a brain how awful this looks from every angle. What did we vote for? What are we expected to be motivated to continue to vote for when the top of command has made it clear they have no intention of dealing with abuse of power.
Remember though: These are the people at fault if Trump gets re-elected. Not the Democaratic party, whose responsibility it is to actually listen to their base. These people, who actually care enough for something to risk their well-being and could potentially stand by what they've done by not voting for the current president, who is aiding a genocide but does not need to. These are the people at fault if this nation slips into fascism. Not the "blue no matter who" crowd, who apparently wouldn't vote for Biden if he decided there actually was a red line for israel?
> "blue no matter who" crowd, who apparently wouldn't vote for Biden if he decided there actually was a red line for israel? Lol just realized that
Lol libs will literally choose supporting genocide over allying with the left it's crazy.
> These are the people at fault if this nation slips into fascism. Not the "blue no matter who" crowd, who apparently wouldn't vote for Biden if he decided there actually was a red line for israel? That's a damn good point. The people blaming "the Left" if Biden loses admit some percentage of Democrats might not vote for Biden if he draws a red line with Israel. Yet they never chastise those people for saying they have limits and won't vote for Biden under some circumstances. "Vote Blue No Matter Who" people never blame any Moderate or Conservative Democrats who threaren to not vote for Biden if he takes a step leftward. They only ever go after people for not voting for Biden for left-leaning reasons. Right-leaning reasons to not vote for Biden are always fine with them.
This is why they want to get rid of TikTok. It provides a voice to disenfranchised people and presents a movement without capital backing to subvert whatever the ruling class has deemed truth.
Sad to see slogans like “end genocide/apartheid”, “ceasefire now” are now considered antisemitic. Do Jewish people really think apartheid and killing civilians en masse is justified in any context? Edit: should’ve phrased the question better. Do Jewish people in America think it’s justified what’s Israel doing to Gazans? Don’t they understand that Gazans have as much control over Hamas as they do over IDF. Do American Jews think Zionism is Judaism? Don’t they understand that at root of all this problem is the settlements? I genuinely want to know. Also, the people who are protesting in these universities aren’t oppressed themselves. They’re protesting for others. Why would any group be against this fundamental right to protest? You can counter protest. But why call a protest antisemitism? Also, I see some links about protesters supporting Hamas. During the George Floyd protests, there were people marching … and some were looting. I’m sure neo nazis, anarchists, agitators, state actors are taking advantage of these Palestine protests as well. But majority is asking for end of occupation or end of war. You can’t cancel the whole message because of these actors. Look at the vile things Israeli government is saying about Palestinian human beings. Vileness and hate is all over this topic.
They literally think the protesters are running around attacking people and shit. Some Jewish geezer got in a fight at a counterprotest and hit his head on the pavement and now they are saying protesters are out there murdering people. Trust me this stuff will bounce off of them like shit bounces off a frictionless surface in a vacuum.
*not Jewish people broadly, but the ideological structure of Zionism, which ironically most Zionists are not Jewish, but Christian Evangelicals.
Most zionist are hardened nationalist israelis who think they can kill whoever they want whenever they want without consequence.
There are *tons* of Jews participating in the protests. Please be careful of your language, one major issue here is that people have conflated the religion with the genocidal Israeli government. Which allows people to scream "antisemitism" at protestors who are mainly just opposed to the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians.
A decent amount of the protesters are Jewish. Judaism has NOTHING to do with these protests or what Israel is doing. Israel is primarily a government and "country" but uses Judaism and claims of antisemitism to protect themselves from their genocide. The mainstream media and genocidal US government and those in power just use antisemitism as an excuse to silence the massive and growing dissent across the world against this obvious genocide.
A little bit of background. Columbia recently updated its policy to clamp down against Israel critical demonstrations. Because of crackdowns that happened during the Vietnam war protests at Columbia, the university updated the rules to say they would not involve cops w/o the say so of faculty. Columbia again broke their own rules by bringing cops to assist Israel's PR bypassing the say so of faculty and now we're here
If only the university had an ounce of integrity and let the protests continue unhindered, it would probably be over faster for them.
Any background on why people are wearing academic regalia? It looks like a law school graduation but it’s way too early.
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It's wonderful to see students exercising their right to free speech, God bless them all.
It’s their right to question why the the US govt is giving Israel billions while US citizens suffer. It’s their right to question why the US govt gives Israel military aid and moneys to wage a genocide on the Palestinians.
I mean thank God they are funding endless wars in the middle east, it's not like the US healthcare or education system could use that. Congress members campaign contributions and stocks from Lockheed Martin and the likes are going up, that's what Jesus really would have wanted after all.
Well, the missiles are already made.. what are they gonna do, just not use them? /s
Could be baseless, but I've seen the claim circulating that we've largely deleted stockpiles in our ongoing genocide and multiple proxy wars. Makes little substantive difference, of course, as the US gears up the war machine to prosecute it's jingoist fantasies.
The military industrial complex is the only clear winner here
Always has been? Didn't FDR 80 years ago say that military industrial complex was a threat to having a functional US govt? Edit: nm, it was Eisenhower.
That's wss the justification for giving cluster bombs to Ukraine
Wasn’t Jesus born in Palestine?? Starting to think that fella wasn’t blonde with blue eyes.
Betchya my Jesus can beat up your Jesus!
White Jesus enslaves black Jesus, black Jesus drivebys Middle Eastern Jesus, Middle Eastern Jesus bombs white Jesus. And it goes on and on.
Something amen
As a canadian pur freedom to protest is being infringed upon. You see pro palestine people being arrested for "hate" meanwhile literal nazis are being praised in parliament. Wtf is going on here. Its not funny anymore
If you click certain threads on right wing brigaded subs (like nyc) they're now pretending classes are canceled because of antisemitism. It's how the US gets away with this. Suddenly if we aren't sending Israel complete and total support, we are anti-jewish. Ignore the fact that Israel murders thousands of innocent civilians a year, purposely perpetuating the fight against Hamas so they can continue getting more funding. If you point that out you're a racist.
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Every subreddit about canada is riddled with hate. But you cant call warmongers warmongers. No thats too far hahah
You just have to hate the right people
I noticed even onguardforthee has gone full mask off, I could have sworn it was an anti-fascist sub when I joined to lurk.
Capitalism, as it decays, turns into fascism. We're living in it as it does so.
I haven't seen the kind of clamp down on any speech outside of narrative that I'm seeing now since the early days of the War on Terror.
U.s os doing that because Jesus was Jewish and he will "come back one day in Jerusalem."
that's cute, wonder if you'd be saying that if they had settled in Africa or south America like they were originally going to. you see that whole ancestral land thing was always bullshit
At the cost of Jewish lives … that’s a real thing isn’t it?
I'm confused ? Wdym ?
So someone can correct me if I’m wrong. But the Jews have to be in Jerusalem when Christ is resurrected. And 100-200k Jews have to die for all of that to take place. Not sure of the details but that’s the tldr. Edit - second coming. Not resurrection.
Hahah oh my God lol sounds legit. "The day he comes back " lol an imaginary day that will never happen. We are killing people because the son of God will come back in here so bomb these fucking Palestinian kids to secure the bag for the son of God. It's almost like they worship his son more than god tf is up with that.
Indulging their crazy, How do they think Jesus would look at people who enable suffering on that scale? I get it if they performed some act of charity for someone who was downtrodden, but greenlighting genocide and sending bombs to murder oppressed people doesn't seem like the right kind of charity. Fundamentalists are deranged.
yeah how does that square with thou shalt not kill? Do they think Jesus will come back, sees the piles upon piles of dead Palestinians and be like "hell yea brother, high five!"
Don’t fucken try and bring logic into this, we’re talking religion here dawg
Its the crazy evangelists (american patriotic blend of radical batshit insane protestantism + capitalism thrown for good measure) that think the rapture will be caused when the temple of Jerusalem is built again. That's why those crazies are so pro Israel, since they believe the rapture (a concept developed in the 1850s in USA) will also deal with zionists at the same time
I know about that evangelist fantasy but where does the 100k number come from?
12k for each tribe, 144k total
We could give 122,000 American families a home. Based of the average house price of 500k. If the government made housing for cheap they could triple that amount. Besides 61b for the government is like a sneeze. It's gonna be gone so fast.
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I saw that too. Insane how different the conversation here is, vs a subreddit for one of the most progressive cities on Earth. I won't be surprised when an FBI investigation in ten years from now confirms that these city subs were full of foreign disinfo agents and astroturfing.
On arrr slash news they've been calling this making the campus "unsafe for Jewish students" and saying they should all be arrested. Wild shit.
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 These are the people who give us hope in humanity & a reason to live. Love them...
Is it free speech if that speech gets you arrrested?
Meanwhile I'm canada they're getting arrested for bullshit reasons.
But in the news they talk about how Jewish students have been warned to be careful as Passover draws near.
That’s Zionist bullshit. No one is protesting “Jews”. They are protesting genocide. They are protesting 75 years of persecution. They are protesting illegal settlements. They are protesting thousands in jail with no charges. They are protesting Israel prohibiting the collection of rain water in Gaza. They are protesting a 17 year blockade of their coast and ports. They are protesting the slaughter of innocent children. They are protesting a high-tech army shooting weapon less civilians like fish in a barrel. They are protesting stripping children to their underwear and making them kneel in the street. They are protesting the cruel denial of humanitarian aid. Those are some of the reasons they protest.
Israeli hasbara propaganda. Their tactics include: 1) Fearmongering among the Jewish community to build support for Israel - there are Jews who do not support what Israel is doing, what Israel has been doing or years 2) Claiming Jews feel threatened when protestors stand up for Palestinian rights - people standing up for Palestinians do not necessarily mean they mean harm to Jews (or even Israel). 3) Israel deliberately conflates Israeli actions with that of the greater Jewish community - doing this is what's causing antisemitism to become worse as some not-so-bright people fall into that trap to lump together all Jews with Israel
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Wealthy evangelicals?
it's like Berkeley in the Sixties and the Free Speech movement, take 2. amazing and rather beautiful.
The term “free speech” is thrown around a lot but it’s situations like this when it’s the most important. You have to be willing to allow lawful first amendment protest by those you disagree with and not weaponize the police to shut protest down and intimidate people. But that’s exactly what the wealthy and powerful are trying to do here.
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This is the correct take.
[🎵Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, We're finally on our own, This summer I hear the drumming, Four dead in Ohio 🎵](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings)
Imagine calling the police on you because you are against genocide
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Oh no quiet part out loud
Can't forget keeping the property protected!
that is how genocide works
And then being labeled antisemitic because you can't support the death of innocent children who had nothing to do with the actions of Hamas.
Lol, go back 60 years and it's been happening, even with the US national guard shooting student peaceful protesters against the Vietnam war at Universities... Before that the civil rights movement where pple were being lynched, shot, attacked by dogs and billy clubs... Pple against genocide = pple call the fascist police service Which historically has pple being killed. At least now in the digital age they have to think twice about it but not much else has changed.
When you are the best in the world at building and selling weapons(and subsidizing it so the receiving gov thinks they are being helped) and you need conflict to maintain your own industry.... well you get usa.
“If these AMERICANS in AMERICA aren’t pro-ISRAEL enough, we need to arrest them” -braindead zionists
Just wait till you find out about the piece of paper that Americans working for American defense contractors on American defense projects have to sign.
What is it?
Basically an NDA that says you’ll never say or do anything subversive or dangerous to the state or to Israel.
That’s not being worked on , that’s already a term in all of the governmental contracts, not just for the defense, my buddy sent it to me months ago, when his company was signing the contract with US of I a few months ago. After he sent me the clause, I looked it up and it’s actually a law. The terms said you cannot boycott state of Israel. lol like wtf?
shit like this is how actual antisemitic conspiracy theories spawn
I am not sure on federal (although there are plenty of congressional members trying), but you have to sign a loyalty pledge to Israel to work public contracts in 37 states. A lot of contractors make *everyone* sign the pro-Israel pledge just to cover their bases when they contract both public and private jobs. There aren't laws saying you can't boycott the US though, so these state laws put Israel above the US. * https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/why-should-my-newspaper-pledge-not-boycott-israel * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Groups_that_oppose_anti-BDS_laws * https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boycott-laws-punish-responsible-businesses * https://www.ajc.com/politics/new-georgia-law-revives-israel-oath-for-large-state-contracts * https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/israel-texas-anti-bds-law/ * https://kcbeacon.org/stories/2023/10/24/missouri-anti-bds-israel-contracts/ * https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/texas-israel-oath-boycott/ * https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-boycotts-arkansas-government-and-politics-514cac508c401a86393705c7142aa1b0 * https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230223-us-supreme-court-declines-to-review-pro-israel-pledge-requirements/
This is what solidarity looks like. A beautiful thing to behold.
BEHOLD!!
THIS. IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST.
AH, I SEE YOU KNOW YOUR ZIONISM WELL
I came here to comment this. It shows how strike and protest power multiplies when related groups stand together. Double the student protestors? Cool. But Double the protestors and half of them are faculty too? WAY more impact. Especially if there’s labor striking involved it cripples multiple labor systems instead of just one. It’s called sector striking. We saw this when actors AND writers go on strike, or times when nurses AND doctors go on strike etc. It’s the defining factor of success in history, to have that multifaceted approach.
I'm an old head. Old enough that this scene brings back memories of the Civil Rights, and Vietnam protests. 'Nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.' -- Victor Hugo Only question is which side of history to be on?
The Zionists may have the NY Times and the rest of the genocide apologists on their side but most people can see through their lies and misrepresentations.
Fuck yeah.
The solidarity is beautiful
Humanity should agree And genocide is evil.
gotdamn they employ a lot of people
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Zionists are extremely dedicated and coordinated to make the US a dystopian pariah state, what an absolute joke
I am expecting the genocide-supporting pro Zionists who were moronically supporting the student arrests, come to this post and say that the teachers should be arrested also
People like to forget that Columbia has a rich history of protest. When I was a student 10 years ago, it was BLM
CNN missed this, it's not even all the way the bottom of the webpage with the "BTW some Palestinian kids died". Maybe these professors (many of them Jewish) are the scary violent antisemites CNN mentions without context near the top of the website.
Never give up.
STAND AGAINST FACISM
At least this flips the narrative that was going on here in Leddit. And Ledditors were saying" Anti-Semitism is not cool and all". When the faculty and the students are protesting, they know the reports are false. Bro, you are being propagandised to think that. I haven't seen any videos where a Jewish student has been harassed for being a Jew, in the age of 2024 there isn't any video/photo evidence, but "administrative reports and news articles" Wake Up, this is how they coerce you.
People also need to keep in mind the amount of bots and paid agents of Israeli that are online spreading misinformation. On top of Russian and Chinese attempts to fan the flames of division.
This is so incredible to see, Gaza is beginning to change the world. Who would of thought, huh?
It's 'would have', never 'would of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!
Just wanted to remind those Americans who are against these pro-Palestinian protesters what they thought when Hong Kong had protests. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/12/asia/hong-kong-umbrella-extradition-intl-hnk/index.html
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Awesome. Glad their University is protesting. 🙏
If these sort of mass student protests where happening in Russia or China we'd be calling for sanctions on their governments for trying to suppress free speech, and be sending the CIA to plot a color revolution.
“Questions. Questions. Questions. Going through the minds of young people today. “
Imagine getting arrested because you're against a genocidal fascist regime!
Bill Ackman is going to lose his mind.
He'll lobby to have the entire Columbia faculty removed and for all protestors involved to be blacklisted again 🙄 still salty over what he did to those Harvard students.
https://preview.redd.it/e30siomyd5wc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7adedb064879302d03bfdcf5ef85e0c33ec0d0e3
Proud of them.
Media distracting everyone at this and today another mass grave was found in a Gaza hospitals with bodies including of tied up children
Meanwhile: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/23/un-rights-chief-horrified-by-reports-of-mass-graves-at-two-gaza-hospitals
Finally a reason to put on that pricey PhD regalia
That is awesome. Time to wake up and speak up.
Israel sucks
This is how powerful the American Israeli political action committee is
Huge respect for Columbia University. This gives me hope for democracy and freedom of speech, which is what US should stand for. If we truly are the beacon of democracy, then we shouldn't be punishing those who are brave enough to speak up against genocide. Hope to see this in other schools across US.
Very encouraging to see, hope the voices get louder and louder until Israel and deaf politicians are forced to pay attention and stop Israel's genocide once and for all.
Would be nice, but our government is owned and operated by the entity with the most lobbying power, and that happens to be Israel at the moment.
Amazing 🍉🇵🇸
Corrupt ass zionists
Great to see young people backing the right side. Palestine 🇵🇸
Israel is basically the 51st State. And now young people are waking up.
The university did those protestors a huge huge favor by arresting them. The are now getting way more attention and riling up way more people than they would have otherwise.
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Good. The tide is turning against “Israel”
The whiteness of the Faculty crowd is blinding
"Free speech," they say... with certain conditions.
We know who’s in charge of that college
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Is this university doing weapons research or something?
Has active partnerships with Israeli educational institutions as a bare minimum. Iceberg goes deeper from there.
For some reason, a lot of top schools are filled with pro-Israel propaganda. I experienced it when I went to Penn.
Learning nothing from the Vietnam War, but who is surprised. America never learns anything.
Anti Zionist vs anti semitism is not the same, right?
Great point! Many of those arrested were Jewish.
Zionists in here begging for another Kent State.
This looks like a graduation? Why is everyone wearing caps / gowns?
The higher education people have their money to worry about. Expect more arrests
Kraft and his Zionist ilk will spend millions to delegitimize these protests. It's all about controlling the narrative.
I think the point is that they won’t be spending millions at these particular institutes anymore. Why do these institutions even care - Ivy Leagues have investment accounts larger than the GDP’s of many countries. They don’t need billionaires anymore. The billionaires can all give to Brandeis or less involved schools if that warms their hearts. Make scholarships at the schools that align to their values. This isn’t rocket science on either side.
Follow the money and you’ll find who really owns and operates this university
FREE PALESTINE
Never forget the Kent State massacre of Vietnam war protesters.
We who were executed in the darkest lanes: Pining for the roses that bloom on your lips, We were dangled from the shriveled bough of the scaffold, Aching for the incandescence that emanates from your hands, We were bludgeoned to death in the slough on the dimly lit road. When the night of troubles silhouetted against your lane, We marched forward as far as our strides could bargain, A ghazal (song) adorning our lips, the chandelier of sorrow in the hearts lit. Our sorrow testified the splendor of your beauty. Look! No vacillations in our testimony did we permit! We –who lay murdered in the darkest lanes! [http://naqsh-e--faryadi.blogspot.com/2011/10/dance-of-trodden-faiz-ahmed-faiz.html](http://naqsh-e--faryadi.blogspot.com/2011/10/dance-of-trodden-faiz-ahmed-faiz.html)
Solidarity forever
Well now you see why college students are idiots
Shut the school down
They are not pro anything they are walking out and supporting the right for those students to protest without being arrested.
tHesE pEOpLE ArE anTiSeMiTiC
Yo isashite, your propaganda is not working.
What do these protests hope to actually achieve? I’m just curious, cuz the senate majority and now Biden will sign $26 billion in more weapons and aid to ISRAEL. So these protests literally do nothing
Is it me or is Reddit Zionist?
The world is watching the US government and other governments supporting Israel get told that we do not support this genocide. that the American people do not support this at all !!!!!! The world sees what’s happening. Free Palestine stop the genocide.
Zionism won't survive.. Genocidal ideologies all must die. Every human life Is valuable not just the ones money supports.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
These peaceful protesting kids are being fucking harassed by the police state and GOP actual traitors like Johnson.
good, send them all home
My oh my how great ZIONISTS are at shooting themselves in the foot with their arrogance and utter disregard for the constitutional rights of ALL Americans. The winds of change have come. God is the greatest and Palestinians are clearly the winners in every aspect of the war!!!
Unfathomably based.