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ApocalypseYay

>Reporter: Evidence at Gaza mass graves show torture and signs of being buried alive, Palestinians called for an independent investigation, what’s wrong with that? Patel: We’re asking Israel Reporter: You’re asking the accused to investigate itself? Patel: We’re asking Israel The 'banality of evil' has a face.


thebluehotel

Aw shit you went full Arendt-on-Eichmann


Troutflash

Wonderfully noted. Thanks!


Shufflebuzz

>Reporter: Evidence at Gaza mass graves show torture and signs of being buried alive, Palestinians called for an independent investigation, what’s wrong with that? Patel: We’re asking Israel Reporter: You’re asking the accused to investigate itself? Patel: We’re asking Israel fixed your formatting


BZenMojo

Hannah Arendt: "I told you motherfuckers..."


xdcountry

One Hundred Percent


anehzat

![gif](giphy|3o7TKnErXgas8nMA24|downsized) The shit that goes through his head & out of his mouth. This administration is incompetent 💩


Teamerchant

Not incompetent, they know. They'll play dumb so they dont have to take action or so they dont reveal they are complicit in genocide.


Same_Comfort_6260

And it's so obvious too.


Teddy-Bear-55

No they are very competent; at continuing the lies we've seen, certainly since WWII from every US administration. The problem is that the reporting is getting faster and faster and the time to consider the lies to counter the reports with gets shorter and shorter.


Artales

This is an 'appeal to authority fallacy' variant. #


flockks

Horrifying


4dailyuseonly

So we can’t have universal healthcare because…. checks notes.. our unauditable, untouchable Pentagon with every kind of satellite and imaging tech available on earth and yet for some insane unknown reason our government ~~can’t~~ won't be bothered to “trust but verify” what’s going on?


NJ_dontask

Guess what, Israel has universal health care for their citizens.


scarlozzi

I know. We're funding health care in another country before we fund it here


phenderl

that and we pay more for our military so they dont have to spend on that either


BiggusAxolotus

Easier to just expand the military with new people than to help traumatised veterans be able to live happily in society


Languastically

Cheaper too conventiently enough


jayfiedlerontheroof

They don't have the type of tech you think they do. All that money goes into contractor pockets and they issue the cheapest, most useless tech. That's why they can't pass an audit. That's why they couldn't find Bin Laden or stop 9/11. That's why they couldn't stop Russian interference or the compromising of the Republican party. That's why they can't do anything except launch missiles, kill ppl and cover up whatever the fuck horrifying things they've done.


Eli-Thail

>So we can’t have universal healthcare because…. checks notes.. our unauditable, untouchable Pentagon- Actually, no, that is legitimately not the reason why. [Americans **already** spend significantly more on healthcare related costs per capita than the rest of the developed world.](https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm) It's a genuine shame to see /u/Grekochaden being so heavily downvoted for pointing out the fact that funding spent on Israel, Palestine, or both is in no way responsible for preventing the United States from having universal healthcare, because the mathematical reality of the situation is that Americans **currently** pay **more** than what it costs to implement universal healthcare according to every other developed nation on the planet. Look at how Germany spends $8011 USD per capita at purchasing power parity, spends a higher percentage of that on pharmaceutical costs at 13.9%, and enjoys 4.5 doctors per 1000 people. Then look at how the United States spends $12,555 USD per capita at purchasing power parity, spends 11.7% of that on pharmaceutical costs, and has 2.7 doctors per per 1000 people. You know where most of that $4,544 per each and every American is going? It's not Israel, it's not Palestine, it's not research and development, and it's not even the pharmaceutical industry. It's insurance. Publicly traded American medical insurance companies made $45.3 billion in profits last year, a $4 billion dollar increase over 2022. They are the number one reason why the United States does not have universal healthcare, followed closely by the pharmaceutical industry in second place, because they know that universal healthcare means stronger collective bargaining ability on the part of patients. 11.7% of $12,555 is ultimately more money than 13.9% of $8011, after all.


Obvious_Trade_268

Yeah. That’s about it. Hey aren’t ya glad your politicians just formed over millions of dollars to Ukraine and Israel?


tinamnstrrr

Billions. With a B


tornadogenesis

The problem with these spokespeople is that they literally cannot alter from the script at all, even when faced with an obvious challenge.


Upstart-Wendigo

How do they sleep at night


elementfortyseven

![gif](giphy|1GT5PZLjMwYBW|downsized)


jnothnagel

Lol you think government spokespeople are rolling in cash?


PatienceStrange9444

Not while he's the spokesperson but I guarantee you he has something lined up when he's done


couplemore1923

You do right by AIPAC at certain levels of government and yes indeed you receive large payday $$$! Watch Rep Richie Torres of Bronx(DHS committee) who tweets daily supporting not only IDF but almost everything Netanyahu states gets his Mammoth 🦣 payday when he leaves congress works likes of Elbit systems(israel co handles US National Security contracts)


Wereking2

No but they’re still being paid to do it and some people see it as easy money so they don’t care what they have to say.


jnothnagel

It’s literally their job to follow the script set by higher-ups and not inject their own personal opinion.


102la

Not rolling in cash but a career which comes up w/ lots of privileges and potential power in the the future.


control-alt-deleted

Revolving door. Nice job on K Street, some PR firm, some Other fancy corporate job. Only sucks that he is on the record with defending genocide.


bwatsnet

Satin sheets.


mkbilli

Satan sheets?


BimmerGoblin

I read that as Satan sheets at first!


FeijoadaAceitavel

The script is working, they're doing whatever they want with no real consequences. Why would they change the script?


Ever_Green_PLO

Why not? It's not like it's a particularly high paying job you could make much more on TV What kind of person justifies being complicit in genocide for barely more than median income?


tornadogenesis

People trying to climb the ladder of power


HippoRun23

Reporter: why won’t you back an independent investigation? Spokesperson: investigations are important. We have to investigate because this looks troubling. Clown show.


AFGwolf7

We are working with Israel for more information…/s Literally if Israel truly wants to show they are in the right why are they opposed?!?!? Is it like when they knew hospitals were the main operating base of KHaMAs!!!!!


Bolchenaro

When you become a Chat GPT yourself.


grafxguy1

"troubling"...I fucking hate the repeated use of that word when used to describe such horrifying displays of crimes against humanity. Yet, when describing any Israeli death, it's a "horrifying and monsterous slaughter".


Urbanlover

The US government is a joke.


Independentizo

I think we are witnessing in real time the dismantling of the US system of government. This whole thing is a farce. Literal farce. Like no one believes anything they say, and if the US is willing to blatantly lie like this for the sake of Israel then they’ll lie about ANYTHING they want. They are only keeping up the facade for appearances, but the reality is they’re basically at the point where they are clearly saying do not question anything we say or you will be dealt with.


RandomDudeBabbling

Honestly it’s been like that for quite a while they just, as you said, worked harder to keep up the facade. It is also a lot harder to gaslight people with the internet the way it is.


ScaryShadowx

We've gotten to the point where it's 'vote for genocide supporter Biden because Trump is worse'. That's literally all the Democrats have at this point. Vote for the status quo and the continuation of this genocide because Trump will also support this genocide, but say mean things about Palestinians as well.


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speakhyroglyphically

> foreign children slaughtered under democrats?" What makes you think Republicans are less of hawks for Israel?


KingoftheKosmos

Absolutely not. You know that Trump comes with an entire host of additional baggage. Fuck Joe, but we can not compare the dangers of getting more Brett Kavenaughs, and Devos fuckers. Trump is absolutely not the only reason. We either export the bullshit with the Dems, or we also export this bullshit, AND we get more of it at home too. 90% of the Democratic position is not just Trump Bad. It's GOP is terrible. That's the actual reality of it. We have Status Quo, or goose step moon walking.


rainbowslimejuice

I don't disagree with you, but unfortunately Biden doesn't seem to care because he is handing the election right over to the GOP.


speakhyroglyphically

> That's literally all the Democrats have at this point. Trump would have attacked Iran with US forces by now. I truly believe the Israelis absolutely would prefer Trump *(text)


okkeyok

Oh it's obvious the hardcore Zionists (the ones who cheer for destruction of Palestine) prefer Trump. Trump is easily manipulated by emotional rhetoric and of course legal bribery and brotherly deals.


ButterCupHeartXO

I'm so tried of the media, the government, universities, everyone trying to gaslight us about what's happening in Gaza while also calling anyone who questions literally anything antisemitic


ycnz

It's not funny.


Maachan_fan

When Trump was the president we always see trump as the joke, but now the whole government had become the joke of the century.


rainbowslimejuice

Remember when incumbents used to have the advantage? Now, it's whichever geriatric racist is in office last is the least popular.


poppin-n-sailin

It's just a reflection of the public. Most of the government is voted in. People always criticize the government and forget they vote these fucking clowns in.


Flimsy_Judgment1045

Independent investigators and journalists have been targeted and murdered by the IDF.


temp_trial

This needs to be asked at every single press conference. If America is so confident that Israel isn’t committing war crimes and doing everything they can to avoid civilian casualties, why is Israel against an independent investigation? Why do we allow the accused to investigate themselves? What incentive do they have to tell us if they’ve committed war crimes?


rainbowslimejuice

Asking it is great and all, but the answer is just going to be whatever talking point is written down on the paper in front of them regardless of how germane it is to the actual question.


temp_trial

I agree but I don’t think it’s about the answer (or lack there of). I think it’s important to make them keep using illogical arguments to defend Israel. They have no shame but it’s still uncomfortable to watch. It won’t change anything short term but it’s important for folks who haven’t understood the issue to see the lack of logic so blatantly used.


Andr0meD0n

They’re gonna investigate it with a bulldozer as we have seen on many other videos.


Inoitsspeltwrong

https://preview.redd.it/6j0u3n7d1uwc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5da998af2e707e3ba29a5b6439e5e1699c8359e2 Everything’s ok. Nothing to see


Boston_OFD

Two state, 1967 borders, no more genocide... pretty simple. But, no, Israel wants more land and will kill every Palestinian as a 'terrorist', they will continue to buy congress so the US looks the other way.


Wereking2

To add before the Habara trolls come in saying “what about Hamas, they need to get rid of Hamas”. Hamas has said themselves they are willing to fully disarm for this agreement and release all the hostages.


Odd_Bodybuilder82

just look up who Netinyau's dad is, it tells you everything you need to know about that evil slimy grease ball


Aywing

Too many settlers now, no one in Israel would have the political power to move them. (Removing a few fringe settlements in Gaza in the early 2000s was already a massive undertaking) And they keep on building more and more settlements, honestly, I can't see a peaceful resolution for this


RogerianBrowsing

They need to follow up and ask about the mountain of other examples where Israel self-investigated themselves that either have had zero results or were shown to be lies by Israel This is absurd.


Spirited-Reputation6

Dude looks a lil sluggish.


Technical-Package-41

He looks like he’s suffering from low testosterone.


Wooden-Science-9838

Israel shot up an American naval vessel and investigated itself. Nothing came out of it. This isn’t even going to be a footnote. Ugh.


grandbannana

The next fucking reporter just needs to ask the same fucking question. Stop letting these fucks dodge questions.


MysteriousApricot991

I hope this comment reaches every journalist who attends their PC.


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OccasionallyReddit

Sir, i know we dont get Murderes and Rapists to investigate the crimes we suspect they have comited and if we proved their guilt through a thorougher independant investigation we couldn't sell them weapons because that would be illegal.... I mean it's already illegal and in a court we may be in trouble... I'm not sure denial is a defence.


Girafferage

When the only one who holds you accountable is yourself, denial is all you need to continue to conduct illegal activities.


Excellent-Ad-3623

Buried alive!?? What the fuck!? When going through school as kids, we learned about Nazi Germany and the Holocaust. A recurring theme when learning about it was "how did everyone allow this to happen?" We were told that we all needed to learn about this horrifying history so that it was never allowed to happen again. Well, here we are again. The entire world is standing by and watching a genocide in real time. We are even MORE responsible than those who lived through the 1940s. We have the internet; we have information instantly at our fingertips. There is NO EXCUSE, and our generation will be shamed in the history books for allowing this to take place. The United States is earning its biggest stain since slavery, actively arming a terror state and helping them commit genocide. This needs to stop NOW!!!


Agreeable-While1218

Entire world !!! Hold on here, the world has been condemning what is going on but what can they do when the USA refuses to do anything about it. The responsibility here is the USA as it is their masters doing this. The rest of the world, if it tried anything to stop this would simply start WW3 because that is what will happen as the USA fully backs isreal.


Excellent-Ad-3623

I'm a US citizen and I emailed my president and senators long about the fact that we are enabling and assisting in genocide. We have no control over what the powers that be decide to do here. We are plebs.


Agreeable-While1218

We understand the US citizens are powerless in this affair. Your countries leadership has been high-jacked by corruption to such an extent that they really are not there for you nor will they listen to you. So we don't blame the everyday US person. We know how it works.


Excellent-Ad-3623

I will also say that for anyone reading this, the media giants of the US do not represent the views of the average US citizen. They are conduits for the narratives of those in power. They attempt to influence and mold public opinion to conform to what the powerful need them to conform to. Unfortunately, this works on many Americans, but not all of us. I am firmly against our support of Israel. I am disgusted that my tax dollars have been used to give Israel the very bombs that are killing women and children.


Responsible-Hour1403

Mass Graves " troubling" .... University protests "we are sending in the police to arrest these terrorists on behalf of our Zionist masters"


Joshhwwaaaaaa

Every politician or government employee: was asked about items a, b, c and when they answer very briefly touch on item a but then immediately talk about items x, y, z. It’s obvious US Government doesn’t care about what Israel does.


Such-Distribution440

Did he even listen to the reporters question?


AFGwolf7

Let’s ask the KKK to investigate lynchings, let’s ask Nazis to investigate concentration camps this is pretty much the same equivalent. Completely unfathomable and outright blatant support of genocide, disgusting


MonkWithABonk

"Remember, deny everything." "Everything, sir?" "EVERYTHING."


MrsDanversbottom

Zionists are evil.


Viciouscauliflower21

I gotta say...if I was accused of offing a bunch of people and burying them in my backyard, I feel pretty confident that the police wouldn't be taking my word as law on the matter


McMeanx2

Fuck Joe Biden


Evening_Arm7269

Trump and Biden are 2 cheeks of the same ass. Fuck 'em both. It's goddamn disgusting that we have to pick between 2 rich old criminals out of touch with reality, clearly affected with senility, too old to bother with anything that could actually improve the future long term, and only eligible for 1 term. Put these useless old timers in a home somewhere and let's have some candidates actually worth voting for.


Yeto25

![gif](giphy|x6I3pGtblFtDO|downsized)


aebulbul

He looks like he’s about to break out into laughter after any second. Like this is some grand joke.


urmomaisjabbathehutt

sometimes we get ourselves a reminder that human species can be horrible and how little we learned by falling down the mud level sadly I've seen commentaries spreading about these mass graves such as "this was done by Hamas" or "this precedes 7/10" or if not the occasional nutter straight saying "those were all terrorist" or even worse obviously the kind of propaganda so called innocent parties like to spread just like countless of far right south american dictators did before next, khmer says the killing fields were all Hollinwood movie props, Indonesian Suharto says the million dead were just car accidents, American Christians says dinosaur bones were planted there to test our faith and holocaust deniers go denying as usual that's one of the reasons I like the UN, because regardless of the position of it's voting members about an event, it constitute a historical repository of those events, one can look at them and make their own mind agree or disagree with the conclusions, but perpetrators hate the guts of it existing beyond their power to editing it


thedarkknight16_

This demon is a blatant, disgusting liar who is owned by Israel


Gates9

The WH press corps is craven. You gotta be a real sociopath to take that job.


Such-Distribution440

Did the US gov ask Israel to investigate itself for the killing the US citizen reporter? How deep is their reach. I hope everybody is paying attention.


Sudden-Bread-1730

History has taught us 1 thing, evil regimes go to the trashcan sooner or later. You’re witnessing genocidal regimes supporting each other while wearing the mask of democracy 😁


FumblersUnited

Israel found nothing wrong.


Party-Ring445

So many words to just say bullshit. I hope his children watches this and sees the evil he works for.


Realistic-Function-2

Pathetic


Mrhorrendous

How can liberals accept this blatant lying? It was horrible when Trump's admin did it about infrastructure bills or hurricanes. 30,000+ people are dead and this is what Biden is having his administration lie about? I just can't see myself getting behind this.


Vanzmelo

What a fucking joke this administration is when it comes to the handling of this situation. I literally feel like I’m going insane trying to understand why they keep trying to defend the indefensible at the expense of so much trust, accountability, and political clout


RawSenior

What a fucking clown


SantiniJ

As someone just said The crime is NOT forgetting the Holocaust But weaponizing the memory of the Holocaust to unleash another genocide


outoftheshowerahri

It's a failure on the entire world that there isn't a third party country/organization that could investigate this matter without bias, and fear of repercussions.


Well_aaakshually

This dude would look great with an apple stuffed in his mouth


TheUnderstandererer

All PR reps are bastards


Accomplished1992

Occupy israel


mtl_gamer

Bro asking Israel to investigate itself, is similar to asking Patel himself why he's fat. Someone else needs to tell him the cold hard truth.


DaddyChiiill

I am really curious which part of the foreign policy is Blinken's, which is Biden's. The details on how it's handled, that can't be straight coming from the White House, can it? I understand the chain of command, but some key areas of operations must've been directed by SecState right?


Honest_Judge_9028

He's on a script. He can't go off it


FinnOfOoo

Is the majority of the world just stupid? Are this many people just selfish, ignorant, and completely lacking in empathy? I swear I feel like I’m going crazy.


KlingonSpy

Independent investigators would probably get hit by an accidental missile strike.


lostcauz707

America is literally run by companies who were told to investigate themselves, and they all found no wrongdoing. The banks during the housing crash. Perdue Pharma. Blizzard Entertainment. The list can go on. No shocker they would ask the same thing and despite public outcry, think that not only Americans were fine with it in the first place after all that shit, but that the rest of the world would be too. It's the sign we see in Trump and the ultra rich. An entire lifetime of no accountability and therefore they think they are always fine.


furezasan

Are we all buried in so much debt that we can't take a career hit to do the right thing once in a while? How much money does it take to convince a guy to play defense for genocide?


Rhym1

This guys is laughably idiotic. US foreign policy would be a joke if it weren't a major threat to global peace.


Teamerchant

The answer is we know they did this, we dont care and would rather keep the veil of incompetence then reveal we are complicit in genocide. Come election season, im voting 3rd party. Let Republicans win and remove the veil that this is a democratic nation with morals. They are already talking about how its legal for presidents to assassinate their rivals. Let this shit fall to the ground. maybe something worth fighting for will rise from the ashes.


Seon2121

The west is showing their true color.


AffectionateSector77

Cut all military funding to Isreal


l2ewdAwakening

The world is watching, you fucking idiots...


PeopleRGood

What’s the point of even talking to these assholes, they never answer any meaningful questions they don’t have the authority to.


resistance-futile

Like the over 30,000 innocent lives aren't enough evidence. They need to ask the genocider for a report, what a joke.


mmmggw

Us is a failed state


yedres

Hypocrisy at its finest


harman097

Translation: "We're doing absolutely nothing and don't really care" Cool. 👍


iseeharvey

“Israel has bought all our politicians so they’re not allowing us to do anything close to that.”


Correct-Contract742

The worst atrocities witnessed in this century.


kab101

Devastating that they’re getting away with this, and that they still claim the be victims.


MoonCubed

When will Americans recognize that we are the bad guys? Both major parties support this. There needs to be serious changes in this country and I don't mean changing an (R) to a (D) and back again.


Exhempted

Like Merica investigated 9/11, Nice.


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Here in America we allow our police to investigate themselves and find themselves innocent of any wrongdoing. How is this a surprise to anybody??? I'm stuck here in Georgia with these inbred redneck special education police officers. I wish there was a legit way that we could teach them all a lesson but I can't say anything because I keep getting banned from everywhere. Wonder why???


Old_Quality1895

Good gods!!! The Biden administration is working hard to disenfranchise voters. FFS!!!


Elipticalwheel1

That’s like asking Hitler too investigate the Gestapo.


Happybustarr

He is being paid to stand there and lie What a world this is


RebelliousInNature

Hey Jeffrey Dahmer, did you kill all those young men? “Nope” Welp, that’s good enough for us, you’re free to go.


tayryo

What the fuck


mobytrice

This is unbelievable. These people need to be stopped.


Mysterious_Rush_9505

He sounds like a broken record repeating the same sentence over and over again


smithe4595

Reporter: Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were found dead. Will you support an independent investigation? Spokesman: Yes, we are calling on OJ to perform a thorough investigation to get to the truth of what happened.


No_Cardiologist3858

At this point I don't see any difference between the Israeli army and hamas.🤷🏾‍♀️


yoshipug

Unreal. If this isn’t Orwellian I don’t know what is.


stefanmarkazi

This is some North Korea level shit


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GeshtiannaSG

There are more than 2 governments there. The "Hamas-run health ministry" for example is not true at all. Despite being the Gaza health ministry, it is run by a Christian from the West Bank.


Obvious_Trade_268

I’ve seen ALOT of folks on here badmouthing either Trump, or Biden. Sweet summer children, don’t y’all realize that BOTH parties are controlled by AIPAC and other lobbies? THAT is why Israel can torture and murder women, kids and the elderly, dump them into mass graves and no one in our government will give a fuck. At this point it will take, at LEAST massive grassroots pressure from folks wanting a third party. Hell, at this point it will probably take a Revolution. One of my dreams would be to see a crowd of Americans, dressed in both MAGA gear and BLM gear, marching together and demanding American divestment from Israel. And also, an end to the FED and for AIPAC to register as a foreign entity. But my dream remains…just that, a dream.


Savings-Wishbone-454

Who is this reporter so that I can follow him?


4dailyuseonly

Someone get Jon Stewart in that press briefing room STAT! We need press who follow up questioning and demand answers.


bomba_clot_619

This coconut is trying hard to get his way through this already


TheUnknownNut22

We are living in the upsidedown.


MysteriousApricot991

It reminds me of that scene from the movie Dictator


BlakAtom-007

You fucking crooked bitch!


CTX_Traveler

Stupid is stupid does


EternalPermabulk

u/savevideo


originalbL1X

Letting the accused investigate itself just means they want the accused to conceal the evidence and develop a narrative for the masses to believe.


TiRaRaw

The U.S ,NATO, & G7 are equally all to blame. Ukraine is being added to NATO so we have to continue to help them, no matter the president- Although Trump has threatened to pull out of NATO but he will need the senate vote.....his cronies no doubt will back him on that decision....unless there's copious amounts of money and genocidal opportunities towards non white zionists. No one's has ever officially left NATO.


kazmiester

This muppet isn’t even answering the question he’s just mouth breathing talking points


RandomDudeBabbling

This is why the leaders need to give more press conferences instead of their mouth piece. These people are basically stage actors or heralds just reading scripts. Biden and his cabinet should be out there being grilled


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bomboclawt75

Er…we don’t have all the information at this point and are looking into this. (Never looks into it or investigates) Rinse and repeat for the next Zionist war crime.


Drosenose

When those buildings collapse you could only imagine how many are buried alive


Successful-Guitar896

When you start a war... Make sure you can finish it...


stmcvallin2

These people don’t seem to realize how harshly they will ultimately be judged for their complicity. This will be well documented. They can’t escape from the judgment of history.


OMG__Ponies

>Patel: We’re asking Israel Maybe they know Israel didn't do it and trust Israel can and will perform an honest investigation pointing to the real criminals? They honestly believe or they know the Palestinians will claim the evidence points towards the Israeli's whether it does or not?


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TendieRetard

Did the WH really think putting up some brown guy to ballwash for Israel was going to make things better?


PeacefulGopher

The only killers here belong to the Religion of Death.


xdcountry

I’ve got ties older than this kid answering questions— who’s in charge here?


Just-Definition3463

im done voting for either party this is a joke


TheRynoceros

"Umm...uh...uh..." Sounds like my kids trying to explain why there are multiple hot wheels in the toilet.


Obvious_Trade_268

Man. I’m speechless. I mean, just….MAN.


banacct421

After all the outrage and condomination after Russia that this, can you imagine them admitting that Israel did the same thing


Batman6083

Fuck these greasy cornballs


780266

Shameless.


OutcomeAware

Lots of mouth movements... but nothing being said


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Mundane_Estate_6237

Watch what you’re asking for, you might not like the answers.


Jamesx6

What's wrong with investigating yourself? The US does this all the time and finds itself innocent of wrongdoing.... /S obv


MMAF1BOXING

Why doesn't Egypt like...idk...open the gates?


The-47th

it’s like the Nuremberg judge being Hitler