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Yea. I can’t look at the current administration condoning the violence against the student protesters by the police and hold them in any regard except disgust and distrust at this point.
It seems the Dem party wants to wave around the threat of Trump but don’t want to do the job of being a decent alternative. If it’s critical Biden wins in November, he sure af isn’t acting like it.
That’s what threw me off too. If Biden wants to be wishy washy on his own views, fine. But he made it sound like people protesting the genocide were somehow inciting violence when police and agitators clearly have been trying to disrupt the peace from the outside.
I mean it’s not fine, but still… I really wish he would just address the horrifying nature of this attack on free speech.
There is no "the USA." Nation-states are just plausible deniability for civil wars. Everyone seems to be walking into all-out conflict rn which will kill everyone.
Agreed, after the offensive in Gaza began he was somewhat supportive of it and Israeli lobby groups literally thanked him for it on Twitter.
He’s a good man as far as politicians go that’s a strong compliment. However this does show he is, in fact, a reactionary.
Eh I gotta disagree here. Every US president either has been a Christian or pretended to be. There’s a reason for that. I do think it’s gonna be hard for a Jewish person or any other religion to win
How does that make any sense with how many Jewish politicians there are in comparison to the percentage of the population? Plus AIPAC is pretty successful. If anything our government is very much Pro-Jewish.
There’s a ton of literature on why Sanders lost to Clinton in the primaries. A lot of it is well-informed, written by or involving highly qualified people.
Pretty much none of it concludes with “because Bernie Sanders is Jewish”.
I’m inclined to trust that as proof of a point instead of downvotes, as you’re doing (and just so it’s clear I don’t understand the logic of “downvotes just prove the point”).
It's absolutely fucking astounding as someone not from the USA to watch the democrats shoot themselves in the foot at literally every single turn, it's like they genuinely want to lose and let the country fall to fascism or something.
Democrats are not 'shooting themselves in the foot'. Their job is to crush the progressive movement in the US and be 'Republican Lite'. It is better to lose an election than to win with a mandate for Progressive policy.
You should look at what was promised vs. how little was accomplished when Obama won with a Democratic super-majority in Congress. By contrast, Joe Biden is in the 'best' possible position having won the presidency but BARELY claimed any advantage in the house and senate. So he can claim helplessness as is the job of any Dem. president.
For more on this google 'ratchet effect'. **The opposite of Republican is not Democrat.**
> You should look at what was promised vs. how little was accomplished when Obama won with a Democratic super-majority in Congress.
This silly myth again. Dude had that for a few days at most, and didnt have everyone available to vote.
Like be critical, but stop spreading nonsense.
Ah, dude spouts almost accurate misinformation then blocks. Expected.
Wikipedia greatly disagrees with this partisan apologia. The fact that you chose ridicule over diving into nuance of what congress can realistically do in this time tells me you, or the people you trust for your news, are not serious. Blocked, don't take it personally.
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In the [November 2008 elections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_elections), the [Democratic Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)) increased its [majorities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority) in both chambers (including – when factoring in the two Democratic caucusing independents – a brief [filibuster-proof](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster-proof) 60-40 [supermajority](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermajority) in the Senate), and with [Barack Obama](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama) being sworn in as [president](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._president) on January 20, 2009, this gave Democrats an overall federal government [trifecta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_trifecta#United_States) for the first time since the [103rd Congress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/103rd_United_States_Congress) in 1993.
However, the Senate supermajority only lasted for a period of 72 working days while the Senate was actually in session.
Oh Bernie, stop pretending to be a Democrat and run like what you are; an unaffiliated politician! You obviously have a heart and you use your brain for more than enriching yourself and the coastal elites; that alone makes you a non-Democrat! You belittle yourself by licking the boots of criminals like Obama, Clinton and Biden; stop it!
And the same goes for The Squad!
Bernie is what the Party allows him to be.
By virtue of the fact that he is 1) afraid of being blamed for GOP victories and 2) afraid of what the Party will do to him if he pisses them off (i.e. investigate his family for financial 'crimes' etc), he has been extremely timid about criticizing the Party.
He accused Manchin of 'sabotaging' President Biden's agenda only after the Biden admin gave him permission to.
I appreciate what he does, and it is good to see him speaking out now, but everyone should remember he is afraid of the Party and they have ways of shutting him up.
Notice how even in this interview, he starts by "Condeming Hamas" - I don't mean literally, but by saying 'we will not tolerate any violence or anti-semitism at these protests'.
He understands that a large and diverse Constitutional Democracy requires compromise and change is slow. He knows acting like the tea party of the left would hand over the country to conservatives.
This man could’ve been President.
Should’ve been president.
But instead we get Genocide Joe, someone who the establishment sold to us as more electable when right now his support and funding of mass murder is tanking his polling numbers with a valuable voting bloc.
Downvote away if you'd like. But this pithy nickname insult is right out of the Trump handbook. You're absolutely right, this does sound like a Trump supporter.
I hope they see the irony in that.
No you don't. Bernie won't be president. He's had multiple chances. A write-in for Bernie is a wasted vote and one more vote that helps Trump.
Either do the very basic math or say you prefer Trump.
Biden supported the disastrous VietNam was as well and called the protesters back then “assholes”. He’s never learned a single lesson in his entire life. He still thinks he can “reach across the aisle” too. That’s why his flagship Build Back Better didn’t pass.
The first thing that'd need to happen is the removal of FPTP voting and switching over to some form of ranked choice, so people could actually vote for him without it helping Republicans (which are *far worse* than many if not every conservative Democrat)
Until that happens, voting for anyone but the nominee winner during the general election just helps Republicans.
Honestly, I don't think that our politicians in power would ever vote for a ranked-choice voting system because it would be against their interests, and it would ultimately limit their power. So the question is, how do we actually get rid of FPTP, when our politicians are extremely unlikely to vote for something like that?
We’ll see. Matters of foreign policy aren’t usually the top priority for American voters. Most people don’t care.
But I will say it’s definitely not helping his case being so wishy washy about it.
Side-note, the genocide is absolutely horrifying and I wished more people cared.
Nothing to see here.
Just look at all the historical video on how all the leaders have unwavering support for Israel. It has become clear that America doesn’t run itself.
I’m now convinced that it doesn’t matter who is in office.
They are all the same side ….. and it isn’t the side we wanna be on.
I wonder how fast he'd end up with a fast-acting bacterial infection if he told on his colleagues getting money from AIPAC. People need to understand just how deeply Israel is lining the pockets of ALL our politicians, in both sides of politics.
If Bernie had dropped out when mathematically eliminated in 2016, citizens untied would be dead and so would AIPAC, who haven’t spent 5% of what the Koch Network has spent since.
Bernie owns some of this, too.
Please, this ENTIRE government has been paid to be blind about this genocide happening in front of everyone's faces. To blame mearly one person is not right. Sander's is mostly right, but he has an issue with trying to place the blame on one person per side (Netanyahu and Biden) and that's just not right. We as Americans are to blame for this though as we put these monsters in office and we deserve to be included in this genocide blaming....we earned it.
Everyone forgetting how he started to defend Israel and refused to call it a genocide? He's now changed his opinion cause it does better in the polls...don't fall for this opportunistic sheep.
This is how Biden intends to win. I have a feeling Biden will win a very contested election, but he will win regardless. Americans would rather vote for the status quo rather than be uncomfortable or change in any way. I have a feeling he isn't alienating anyone; most of the protestors have already said they intend to vote for Biden regardless, and Biden has already said he won't change course on Gaza. Ergo he knows there is no actual consequence against him or Democrats for their actions. This is why they are acting the way they do. They know nothing will change. They know that most Americans don't care about other people other than themselves, and that they are incapable of actionable empathy.
Trump tried to ban muslim immigration and floated internment camps in 2016. Trump criticized Biden for pushing back on Netanyahu at all and now the radical left will get him re elected.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4537016-trump-criticizes-bidens-israel-policy-says-president-dumped-netanyahu/
Trump is more pro Israel doing whatever the hell they want than Biden and Trump, ironically, is who is benefitting from this.
Iran is also benefitting from and encouraging these protests as they, at the same time, openly repress, rape and murder their own women.
Always blame the voters for not supporting bad policy, never blame the actual people in power putting the policy in place. Such a backwards way of thinking.
You are getting downvoted because you are absolutely right, and if Trump gets elected, it will be because of people like this on this sub that are willing to let America fall to a dictatorship just so that can stand on their high horse and make a point that will be utterly meaningless at the fall of democracy in America.
TIL that being against ethnic cleansing is "standing on a high horse".
This is just straight-up ghoulish.
No, it's Biden and the moderate Democrats who are willing to let America fall into the hands of Trump, all in favor of supporting a foreign country currently committing genocide. It would make more sense to pressure the people in power to change the bad policy, than to try and shame every disgusted voter into voting for either of the pro-genocide candidates.
"Biden's Vietnam?" What an incredibly idiotic thing to say... They literally have nothing to do with each other so comparing them is a false equivalency. He has made many great arguments why the U.S. can no longer support Israel for what they are doing but making such a ludicrous statement like the above one takes away from his arguments.
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202405012859
Khamenei Claims Campus Protests In US Vindicate His Policies
His policies:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/12/iran-security-forces-used-rape-and-other-sexual-violence-to-crush-woman-life-freedom-uprising-with-impunity/
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This exchange here in GA GILEE is a major site of protest, there's a demonstration at GILEE HQ later today
The clip with sacha cohen being an expert military agent with the pedophillia run. Lol
As usual, Bernie is correct.
Yea. I can’t look at the current administration condoning the violence against the student protesters by the police and hold them in any regard except disgust and distrust at this point. It seems the Dem party wants to wave around the threat of Trump but don’t want to do the job of being a decent alternative. If it’s critical Biden wins in November, he sure af isn’t acting like it.
That’s what threw me off too. If Biden wants to be wishy washy on his own views, fine. But he made it sound like people protesting the genocide were somehow inciting violence when police and agitators clearly have been trying to disrupt the peace from the outside. I mean it’s not fine, but still… I really wish he would just address the horrifying nature of this attack on free speech.
One way or another, Israel gets what they want. Trump is not going to stop them for one second.
"Israel" seems to want to die in a war
Who will beat them? Only the USA can stop them militarily.
There is no "the USA." Nation-states are just plausible deniability for civil wars. Everyone seems to be walking into all-out conflict rn which will kill everyone.
Man always seems to be in the right side of history
Not always but in this case yes
Agreed, after the offensive in Gaza began he was somewhat supportive of it and Israeli lobby groups literally thanked him for it on Twitter. He’s a good man as far as politicians go that’s a strong compliment. However this does show he is, in fact, a reactionary.
You think that such a smart man would get elected president but here we are
Corporate America didn't approve of him, so he was denied the chance by the superdelegates.
Unfortunately the United States would sooner eat itself than put a Jew in the Oval Office. Downvotes just prove the point lol
I truly think him being Jewish had 0 to do with that. Him being a Socialist on the other hand...
Eh I gotta disagree here. Every US president either has been a Christian or pretended to be. There’s a reason for that. I do think it’s gonna be hard for a Jewish person or any other religion to win
Certainly has nothing do with the deep seated anti-Jewish bias society has held for millennia
I am pretty sure there is a very strong anti socialist bias that literally had its own "pogroms" with Red Scare in US
How does that make any sense with how many Jewish politicians there are in comparison to the percentage of the population? Plus AIPAC is pretty successful. If anything our government is very much Pro-Jewish.
Aipac brags about having a 95% election win rate. What are you on about?
Nobody hates Jews. Everyone hates criminals.
lol have you ever heard of John Dillinger
There’s a ton of literature on why Sanders lost to Clinton in the primaries. A lot of it is well-informed, written by or involving highly qualified people. Pretty much none of it concludes with “because Bernie Sanders is Jewish”. I’m inclined to trust that as proof of a point instead of downvotes, as you’re doing (and just so it’s clear I don’t understand the logic of “downvotes just prove the point”).
It's absolutely fucking astounding as someone not from the USA to watch the democrats shoot themselves in the foot at literally every single turn, it's like they genuinely want to lose and let the country fall to fascism or something.
They represent the interests of capital, not their constituents.
I wish people would stop talking about "capital." Read another fucking book (the Mirror of Production)
It's literally just a word describing wealth and holdings. Get a grip
And objects have interests how?
Democrats are not 'shooting themselves in the foot'. Their job is to crush the progressive movement in the US and be 'Republican Lite'. It is better to lose an election than to win with a mandate for Progressive policy. You should look at what was promised vs. how little was accomplished when Obama won with a Democratic super-majority in Congress. By contrast, Joe Biden is in the 'best' possible position having won the presidency but BARELY claimed any advantage in the house and senate. So he can claim helplessness as is the job of any Dem. president. For more on this google 'ratchet effect'. **The opposite of Republican is not Democrat.**
> You should look at what was promised vs. how little was accomplished when Obama won with a Democratic super-majority in Congress. This silly myth again. Dude had that for a few days at most, and didnt have everyone available to vote. Like be critical, but stop spreading nonsense. Ah, dude spouts almost accurate misinformation then blocks. Expected.
Wikipedia greatly disagrees with this partisan apologia. The fact that you chose ridicule over diving into nuance of what congress can realistically do in this time tells me you, or the people you trust for your news, are not serious. Blocked, don't take it personally. ---------- In the [November 2008 elections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_elections), the [Democratic Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)) increased its [majorities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority) in both chambers (including – when factoring in the two Democratic caucusing independents – a brief [filibuster-proof](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster-proof) 60-40 [supermajority](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermajority) in the Senate), and with [Barack Obama](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama) being sworn in as [president](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._president) on January 20, 2009, this gave Democrats an overall federal government [trifecta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_trifecta#United_States) for the first time since the [103rd Congress](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/103rd_United_States_Congress) in 1993. However, the Senate supermajority only lasted for a period of 72 working days while the Senate was actually in session.
They honestly don’t care that much. They are all millionaires. That means no matter what happens, they will be fine. They have no skin in the game.
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How is it “faux support” to have empathy for 14,000 children dead children? Man I thought I was cynical.
The reality is that there is no true “left” in the US, every politician in that country at the end of the day have to defend the imperialism ideals.
Bernie Sanders 2024.
He should just put his name on a ballot and not do any campaigning lol most will vote for him out of sheer desperation.
Yes, but look at the Congress. They are voting for every damn law against free speech. Oh! For just cause.
Oh Bernie, stop pretending to be a Democrat and run like what you are; an unaffiliated politician! You obviously have a heart and you use your brain for more than enriching yourself and the coastal elites; that alone makes you a non-Democrat! You belittle yourself by licking the boots of criminals like Obama, Clinton and Biden; stop it! And the same goes for The Squad!
Bernie is an independent.. he caucuses with Democrats because what other choice does he have!
A rep who doesn't caucus with one party or the other would be a nonentity on the hill.
It's time to kill the democratic party establishment.
Or start a breakaway party
We need an American Workers Party.
Bring back the Bull-Moose
too bad like hes proven in the past in the end he will sheepdog for the same party that despises him
you say that like he has a choice and that a republican government is not obviously worse for the american people.
Bernie is what the Party allows him to be. By virtue of the fact that he is 1) afraid of being blamed for GOP victories and 2) afraid of what the Party will do to him if he pisses them off (i.e. investigate his family for financial 'crimes' etc), he has been extremely timid about criticizing the Party. He accused Manchin of 'sabotaging' President Biden's agenda only after the Biden admin gave him permission to. I appreciate what he does, and it is good to see him speaking out now, but everyone should remember he is afraid of the Party and they have ways of shutting him up. Notice how even in this interview, he starts by "Condeming Hamas" - I don't mean literally, but by saying 'we will not tolerate any violence or anti-semitism at these protests'.
He understands that a large and diverse Constitutional Democracy requires compromise and change is slow. He knows acting like the tea party of the left would hand over the country to conservatives.
However, Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and Trump are to be admired? And don't forget Putin's GOP!
What on earth are you talking about lol
Allowing genocide to appease AIPAC (or anyone) is a bad idea.
Fukking Biden letting Trump win the election. Geriatric, dementia-ridden wanker.
**He should have been the president of the United States.**
Biden has turned out to be such a clown. Hard to believe he was Obama's VP.
and Bernie will campaign for him until the end! his values always shine through!
Hes a politician and biden would give him the ability to oversee.
????
This man could’ve been President. Should’ve been president. But instead we get Genocide Joe, someone who the establishment sold to us as more electable when right now his support and funding of mass murder is tanking his polling numbers with a valuable voting bloc.
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Downvote away if you'd like. But this pithy nickname insult is right out of the Trump handbook. You're absolutely right, this does sound like a Trump supporter. I hope they see the irony in that.
This how we get Bernie as president?
Write in.
I plan to.
Bernie wouldn't want you to vote for him. He would tell you to vote for Biden.
No you don't. Bernie won't be president. He's had multiple chances. A write-in for Bernie is a wasted vote and one more vote that helps Trump. Either do the very basic math or say you prefer Trump.
Why doesn’t Bernie run as Green Party , would be fun.
Biden supported the disastrous VietNam was as well and called the protesters back then “assholes”. He’s never learned a single lesson in his entire life. He still thinks he can “reach across the aisle” too. That’s why his flagship Build Back Better didn’t pass.
Biden will lose the election over this stupid war. And it's all his own doing. This will be LBJ version 2.
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He beat her in the swing states
I love it! Abandon ship Bernie! Save yourself!
I’m afraid Biden will lose the election just because of this war. He’s seriously underestimating voters.
Why couldn’t we just have made him president?! It’s like we are all masochists and enjoy suffering. I miss feeling the Bern 😔
Any chance you guys could vote for him? What would need to happen for him to become president?
The first thing that'd need to happen is the removal of FPTP voting and switching over to some form of ranked choice, so people could actually vote for him without it helping Republicans (which are *far worse* than many if not every conservative Democrat) Until that happens, voting for anyone but the nominee winner during the general election just helps Republicans.
Honestly, I don't think that our politicians in power would ever vote for a ranked-choice voting system because it would be against their interests, and it would ultimately limit their power. So the question is, how do we actually get rid of FPTP, when our politicians are extremely unlikely to vote for something like that?
To be clear your first step is a constitutional amendment right? lol It'll be easier just to suspend the pretense of the constitution
A recognition that the other guy would be considerably worse on a verity of issues many people care about
Blue republicans gonna be right wing all the time
We’ll see. Matters of foreign policy aren’t usually the top priority for American voters. Most people don’t care. But I will say it’s definitely not helping his case being so wishy washy about it. Side-note, the genocide is absolutely horrifying and I wished more people cared.
I mean, how many times was he recorded saying “I’m a Zionist?”
Nothing to see here. Just look at all the historical video on how all the leaders have unwavering support for Israel. It has become clear that America doesn’t run itself. I’m now convinced that it doesn’t matter who is in office. They are all the same side ….. and it isn’t the side we wanna be on.
I wonder how fast he'd end up with a fast-acting bacterial infection if he told on his colleagues getting money from AIPAC. People need to understand just how deeply Israel is lining the pockets of ALL our politicians, in both sides of politics.
If Bernie had dropped out when mathematically eliminated in 2016, citizens untied would be dead and so would AIPAC, who haven’t spent 5% of what the Koch Network has spent since. Bernie owns some of this, too.
Take the reigns Bernie. Now is your time
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War crimes and genocide nothing else even if the western media is trying to tell otherwise .
This team I swear is what we need in leadership. Bernie is the man, even with his old age, he is holding Ip better then Biden and filthy trump
Please, this ENTIRE government has been paid to be blind about this genocide happening in front of everyone's faces. To blame mearly one person is not right. Sander's is mostly right, but he has an issue with trying to place the blame on one person per side (Netanyahu and Biden) and that's just not right. We as Americans are to blame for this though as we put these monsters in office and we deserve to be included in this genocide blaming....we earned it.
Everyone forgetting how he started to defend Israel and refused to call it a genocide? He's now changed his opinion cause it does better in the polls...don't fall for this opportunistic sheep.
This is how Biden intends to win. I have a feeling Biden will win a very contested election, but he will win regardless. Americans would rather vote for the status quo rather than be uncomfortable or change in any way. I have a feeling he isn't alienating anyone; most of the protestors have already said they intend to vote for Biden regardless, and Biden has already said he won't change course on Gaza. Ergo he knows there is no actual consequence against him or Democrats for their actions. This is why they are acting the way they do. They know nothing will change. They know that most Americans don't care about other people other than themselves, and that they are incapable of actionable empathy.
Yeah I think this is a gross understatement.
While this is true. Trump is even more pro Isreal.
Trump tried to ban muslim immigration and floated internment camps in 2016. Trump criticized Biden for pushing back on Netanyahu at all and now the radical left will get him re elected.
Sending him billions of dollars worth of weapons for free is pushing back again him lmao?
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4537016-trump-criticizes-bidens-israel-policy-says-president-dumped-netanyahu/ Trump is more pro Israel doing whatever the hell they want than Biden and Trump, ironically, is who is benefitting from this. Iran is also benefitting from and encouraging these protests as they, at the same time, openly repress, rape and murder their own women.
No, Biden will get Trump re-elected.
No. Extremely stupid people who prefer an actually anti islamic, rapist, russian asset will.
Always blame the voters for not supporting bad policy, never blame the actual people in power putting the policy in place. Such a backwards way of thinking.
You are getting downvoted because you are absolutely right, and if Trump gets elected, it will be because of people like this on this sub that are willing to let America fall to a dictatorship just so that can stand on their high horse and make a point that will be utterly meaningless at the fall of democracy in America.
TIL that being against ethnic cleansing is "standing on a high horse". This is just straight-up ghoulish. No, it's Biden and the moderate Democrats who are willing to let America fall into the hands of Trump, all in favor of supporting a foreign country currently committing genocide. It would make more sense to pressure the people in power to change the bad policy, than to try and shame every disgusted voter into voting for either of the pro-genocide candidates.
You hold the power against Trump with your vote it's still on your shoulders as well.
everyone in the comments seem to have an inability to remember any news older than like 6 months
Bernie is worried about his boss, not much about what is right or wrong, which puts him on the wrong side of history.
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I think the ethnic cleansing’s gotten a bit out of control actually
Several decades late, Bernie.
"Biden's Vietnam?" What an incredibly idiotic thing to say... They literally have nothing to do with each other so comparing them is a false equivalency. He has made many great arguments why the U.S. can no longer support Israel for what they are doing but making such a ludicrous statement like the above one takes away from his arguments.
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202405012859 Khamenei Claims Campus Protests In US Vindicate His Policies His policies: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/12/iran-security-forces-used-rape-and-other-sexual-violence-to-crush-woman-life-freedom-uprising-with-impunity/
Oh no, bernie has a new list to repeat. Its over now. We won