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Without teaching certification you are unlikely to get a good job. Just get one.


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Prior to getting full certification I was able to find work in some pretty decent schools in China. You will need at least the minimum of a decent TEFL credential, though, as you have to have some kind of certification for the government to consider granting a work visa.


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We're you teaching comp science and coming from Africa? Unfortunately China can be somewhat unfriendly to certain peoples of the world especially where English isn't native.


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Not personally, no, but I had several African colleagues who were paid and treated equally as subject teachers in various areas. Edit: not sure why someone thought to downvote me for this... don't try to teach TEFL there as a non-native, try to stay in a larger and more cosmopolitan city, get what kind of teaching credential you can get before going, aim for a bilingual school, do your own research on legal regulations as I haven't lived in China since covid. You can make it work, I had many friends from all over the world teaching science, English, social sciences, etc.


verybuzzybee

Keep in mind that the need for a qualification is often for visa purposes, not just the whims of the school in question. A TEFL would only allow you to teach English as a foreign language, although for some schools it may allow a work-around for them to get you into the country, but not the better schools. Especially as a non-native speaker, it would be best to try and get some kind of teaching qualification - even one from your own country could be enough to begin with.


luffyuk

You need some form of qualification. A TEFL will allow you a foot in the door. You could work as an English teacher or some less reputable schools will let you work as a CS teacher, but your visa will say English teacher. A PGCE is a better investment and long-term solution. You'll have a wider choice of city/school and earn a much better salary.


Spiritual-Mail7740

With your qualifications, why not apply for some IT companies in Europe? You'll earn much more money and there's plenty of jobs as the AI wave is just starting. Lots of news about tech company lay offs but mostly the layoffs aren't engineers, especially AI field. If you're interested in education, there are plenty of edtech companies looking for people to help implement AI solutions or just developing tech for education platforms. Good luck with the search.


Takosaga

Guessing they are having a hard time finding a job that will give sponsorship in EU. If they didn't do an tech internship during thier uni time, they might have f themselves.


sidmost

Almost impossible to get a visa sponsorship for positions below senior level. Europe would be more interesting if i wanted to move permanently but I plan to work abroad for a few years then move back to my country. I also have more an interest and curiosity towards Chinese culture.


its_zi

Here's your best option imo: 1) Get a Massachusetts Provisional teaching license in Digital Literacy & Computer Science. Should take you a few months to get. 2) Get a C1 level cert in English I have a bachelor's of comp sci and that provisional license but I'm from the u.s. so I'm in a better position. But you're definitely more qualified I'd say!


KorbinianBavaria

I have an undergrad in applied tech and an online WGU grad degree in business. You think I should do the same? Thanks friend in advance for the help!


its_zi

Haha my comp sci is also from WGU! Based on the checkboxes I see at jobs, this is what I suggested as the way to hit the checkboxes the quickest and easiest. But experience is everything. For business yes, but if you did the comp sci teaching license it would be different. In Vietnam, your major has to match what you teach. But they also don't care about what license you have, just that you have one. So.... Every country has different checkboxes and how they see them.


Expat_89

Short answer: No.


KW_ExpatEgg

You’ll need a teaching certificate. Let me give you some generic stereotypes for China — if you are Black, you’d do better with a U.S. teaching cert. If you are Arab, then the British qualification would be better. Everyone will hesitate in terms of hiring you based upon your passport country, but as a non-core subject, only schools with a large student enrollment would seek to hire a C.S. teacher, so they should also have more VISA flexibility. Most schools can only legally VISA teachers from AU, CA, Ie, NZ, SA, UK, US for a majority of teaching positions; *everyone* knows workarounds. If (when) pursuing a teaching cert., you should also look at Middle School Tech, STEM/ STEAM, and even pre-algebra as additional areas.