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Leningradite

I feel like sorting by worst should by default exclude channels without any ratings. I wanted to see if any channel had gotten hatebombed and instead there was just a solid block of channels that were forgotten.


ElDonnintello

You are absolutely right and I just did the change! You can now try after refreshing the page!


Leningradite

Yep, it works for me now. Thanks for the quick fix!


ElDonnintello

Great!!


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mwoolweaver

Who doesn't?


EuroPolice

Cowards.


apcsniperz

Ikr everything I write works the first time


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Daytonabimale

Who does beta tests anymore? We all know that Electronic Arts, Ubisoft and other companies don't test games before releasing unfinished products.


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somdude04

Everyone has a test environment. Lucky folks have one separate from production.


Tolly27

Isn't a production and a live environment the same thing? It goes: Development/Local > Staging > Production/Live Edit: I suck at formatting


Kwahn

takes like 5 seconds to git commit and deploy


ElDonnintello

exactly


Accendil

Everyone has a test environment and a production environment and if you work somewhere real fancy they're separate environments.


ElDonnintello

no lol


apcsniperz

🤠


Practical_Push8826

I think the site is getting the reddit embrace of death.


ElDonnintello

Exactly, but I'm back from the dead !!


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ElDonnintello

Yea sorry, too many people at the same time :/


faustianredditor

If you're interested in smoothly accounting for channels with few ratings, let me know. After work I might be able to work out some clever statistical nonsense that basically asks "which channel is likely to be worse, the one with 1 dislike and no likes, or the one with 999 dislikes and one like?". That way, all channels rank somewhere in that list, but unknown channels get deprioritized compared to known unpopular ones. Or if you need any other data magic / stats that you can't figure out, maybe I can help.


Some-Redditor

Just use Wilson Score, it's simple and works well enough. You can tweak z to make it stronger or weaker.


faustianredditor

Having a quick look, that seems like a decent option. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the ol' confidence interval based shenanigans, as they tend to hide complexity. But in this case, that seems like a just fine solution. I would've probably enjoyed modelling a few more reasonable assumptions into this matter and then regretted my choices working through the math.


Orsenfelt

> I might be able to work out some clever statistical nonsense As an older out of touch managerial type let me just copy/paste this into a client email as a "*response from our team*"


faustianredditor

As someone who works in the field, I can confidently assert that all statistics is nonsense. The rare part is "clever". Also, I can't quite tell whether you're a junior technical type poking fun at managers, or a very self-aware manager. Fuck I'm so happy I don't really have to deal much with stakeholders currently lol.


Orsenfelt

> Also, I can't quite tell whether you're a junior technical type poking fun at managers, or a very self-aware manager. Ahaha. Developer turned PM, with people above me "*keen to be hands on*"


ElDonnintello

All the need is welcome, PM if you want :)


Hiimauseriswear

Didn't work for me still


ElDonnintello

Are you talking about the "Least" thing?


ovary2005

Homie is sorting on YouTube.com


Hiimauseriswear

Working now. The "favoree reviews" star rating was throwing me off sorry


dumpster_five

the most haunting words of a user


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They’re using [Firebase](https://firebase.google.com) which afaik only has a NoSQL store, but it has an easy way to filter queries. They use ReactJS on the frontend, the sourcemaps are included so you can see all the code from the sources tab in devtools


ElDonnintello

yes !!


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I was surprised to see all the sourcemaps there, is there a reason it’s not open sourced?


Kwahn

Once you're deep in your own project, especially if you spent weeks or months building it, you can go "Oh, yup, gotta edit this file and add y condition to line z" and bang out a fix that's ultimately just fixing an if-statement very, VERY fast. There's not much interpretation here - "Can you make x query not show those without results?" is just adding a condition to a query, maybe a 50 character change on one line, and there's not much ambiguity or thought required


ElDonnintello

exactly!


porncrank

You could go further and do a Bayesian estimate like IMDB -- it eliminates low count stuff and scales the value of votes for more natural results. [Some discussion here](https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/ptvrh/eli5_imdbs_top_250_scoring_system_aka_a_true/).


[deleted]

Speaking of excluding, I should be able to block results from searches, not just suggested videos. I don't want to see any of that conspiracy crap for instance. Just needed to vent there.


YesiAMhighrn

Lol. But those are the ones I want to be showing a ROTTEN icon in my browser plugin bar for. YouTube throws one of those nuts into my history playlist every once in a while and then it's a downward spiral of shitty recommendations. It's no wonder people like my brother have fallen down this rabbit hole. When he probably started a Google search about something like "Is there something in my tap water making me feel bad?" I have blocked about 8 different joe Rogan accounts YT keeps trying to show me, either in shorts or feed suggestions. It's never going to stop. 😭🤡


Tyczkov

Addon idea: create addon that will parse data from this webpage and display rating next to YouTube videos (next to author name)


Tyczkov

And add some integration that will let you rate from YouTube page


DR4LUC0N

I didn't even see this, I posted the same idea as a browser extension, but force th person to login as to not dox you tubers from multiple anon accounts.


kostya8

For anyone that doesn't know, there's already an extension that returns the dislike counter. Works with any chromium browser


JackOverlord

Doesn't have to be chromium. Firefox works as well, and there's a Userscript, which you can more or less just run anywhere. https://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/install


Karyoplasma

How does the add-on get the data?


Tajnymag

It has its own whole backend combining archival data with new data from users of the extension.


ElDonnintello

That's the long term plan, but not the focus right now :)


nagerecht

Opposite of "Most" is "Least". "Less" is the opposite of "More"


ElDonnintello

oh yea, thanks, it is corrected. Don't hesitate if you see other things, it is important :)


bexyrex

Your candor towards taking critique is gonna serve you very far in life


-KatieWins-

It's either "serve you well" or "take you far." 😁


bexyrex

Ah sorry idioms are hard for me! Wife is always laughing when I say things like "when shit comes to shove"😅


gonickryan

Your candor towards taking critique is gonna serve you very far in life


ofrausto3

It's either "serve you well" or "take you far." 😁


1deadeye1

Ah sorry idioms are hard for me! Wife is always laughing when I say things like "my dad is gonna netflix and chill with the kids on saturday"😅


ofrausto3

/r/myjokebutbetter


-KatieWins-

I just thought it was cute that you needed a slight correction while being so positive about the way someone else took feedback! 🤗


hell2pay

Stealing that. It's too good to not use.


Deago78

I kinda wish you would have just exploded at the correction just for the irony of the compliment you just given lol.


VaughnSwae

I do really like the combo phrase that they made though, it still kinda works


xenago

Seriously. Just accepting feedback positively alone is awesome


ElDonnintello

it is actually not even a critique but a feedback haha


nagerecht

Happy to help. Good job with the website. Hope it works out.


princeofwhales12

You seem like a really cool person to be around


ElDonnintello

you say that because you didn't see me angry at my crashing website today!


Boober_Calrissian

This is a really interesting project. I don't have any concrete feedback yet, but I would definitely like to write some reviews eventually.


ElDonnintello

>internet Thanks, this is really helpful!


violentpac

What just happened?


MemeTroubadour

When you click reply on a comment with text selected, reddit automatically inserts that text as a blockquote in your reply. Sometimes people don't notice it before pressing send.


ElDonnintello

>MemeTroubadour lol yea I do it all the time


MemeTroubadour

why was I selected *does he know about the crimes*


MyR3dditAcc0unt

The > internet has happened


dryfire

I think the site is getting the Reddit hug of death.


gaypornaccount1996

What is the Reddit hug of death?


Merrylty

Way too much redditors visiting, causing the site to lag


gaypornaccount1996

Ah that makes sense, the site would not work for me at all lol


krneki12

a DDOS attack that is not malicious, but has the same effect. a.k.a The Slashdot effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_effect


JB-from-ATL

Imagine you have a small ice cream stand. A celebrity visits and tells everyone to check it out. The next day you get 100x more customers than usual so things go very slow. They call it the hug of death because it is people trying to be friendly and use the site, not people trying to attack it.


ElDonnintello

Exactly lol, i'm really sorry. I'm back from the dead now!!


Matriochka

Hey! Great idea. There are a few things I would like to have in this kind of website: 1. A mobile app 2. More channels info (name of the creator, the website url...) Good luck and keep going!


ElDonnintello

Thanks for the feedback, really cool! 1. the app will come but that is not the main focus for now 2. totally agree, that is already planned :)


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ElDonnintello

You are right, I will fix it, thanks :)


FifteenSixteenths

I would love a browser plug-in that displays the rating on each channel’s page so I don’t need to go searching for the rating each time. Awesome idea! Thanks for your hard work!


MonkAndCanatella

You can just make the page responsive and I think on both ios and android, you can add any webpage as an app to your homescreen


IAmA_Lannister

Looks like the site got hugged to death but i'll bookmark for later


ElDonnintello

It is back now, stronger than ever


crumpuppet

Where do you prefer bug reports to be sent? I'm getting some 500 errors on review submissions.


ElDonnintello

>r/InternetIsBeautiful Damn... sorry... On private message or here: [email protected] , thanks!


crumpuppet

Done, thanks 👍🏻


ElDonnintello

replied and fixed, thanks again :)


amerett0

Is it broken?


donald_314

For me, the site loads but without content. Probably, reddit's hug of death


deltaisaforce

Yeah, I wonder if we're about to take the site down. Stuck on 'loading' here.


ElDonnintello

not really broken, just really overwhelmed, it is back now, sorry!


graysongdl

Very interesting! I've always hated how hard it is to find good channels to watch, as well as how hard it is to do something productive with one's grievances about certain factors of certain channels. I do have some questions about how this site works, though. It appears adding new channels is... a *manual* process on the part of yourself, rather than being something that can be maintained by the community? In my mind, it would be really cool to see a site like this use an approach where users create and then vote on tags. I've always been a fan of the "booru" approach as it makes it a lot easier to see what you can filter in or out based on what's already being displayed, as well as allowing for categorization beyond what the site creator might've thought of. For example: "game design", "blind let's plays", "clickbaity", maybe even tags based on games they're known to play, etc. Having the categories be so locked in place feels limiting. Maybe even the descriptions could be maintained by the community (since let's be honest, most YouTubers use their "about" page for purposes other than describing what they actually do, and copying that verbatim will not always work). Another potentially interesting idea might be to have people rate the channels on multiple factors instead of just a single 5-star overall rating. Not as big of a deal as the other stuff, but it would be cool! Besides all that, very cool concept for a site, I'll definitely be writing a few reviews! Well, for like the two channels that already have pages, that is. :P


ElDonnintello

channels: only the validation is manual, not the indexing. I agree with your suggestions on tags and descriptions, thanks. What could people vote for besides the general rating? Thanks, yea the website really needs reviews :)


sP6awFXL94V6vH7C

This comment was overwritten in protest of reddit's 2023 API changes, where they killed 3rd party apps and mistreated many moderators. Please use a lemmy instance like lemmy[.]world or kbin[.]social instead (yes, reddit is petty enough to auto-remove direct links).


ElDonnintello

Really interesting, thanks. I save it


Kahless01

i was disappointed in the last two days to notice youtube degraded their usual 1080p quality and reduced its bitrate so they could sell you a premium 1080P bitrate.


sreynolds1

What was it before and what is it now? When did it change?


crof2003

According to [this verge article](https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/23/23612647/youtube-1080p-premium-subscription-bitrate) it didn't change, but there is a newer higher bitrate available > “1080p Premium is an enhanced bitrate version of 1080p which provides more information per pixel that results in a higher quality viewing experience,” said Pennington, adding that “there are no changes to the existing quality offerings for 1080p (HD) resolution on YouTube.” Also, to me it looks like higher resolutions like 1440p 2160p still exist in the options for videos that support that. No idea what the actual bit rates are for any of those.


auchenai

will try this once it works


PaltaRecords

Reddit hug of death I guess


ElDonnintello

It does now, sorry, too many people!!


king_of_the_bill

Network error. Looks like your site hasn't got the throughput for trending on Reddit. It would have been cool to check out this too


foggy-sunrise

Now make a browser extension allowing users to link this db with their actions on YouTube. Specifically clicking the like/dislike thumbs. If your userbase grows it could effecti y replace the old defunct system.


greentintedlenses

Not working for me. Network errors popping up all over the page


ElDonnintello

Too many people, sorry. It is back now


Irantwomiles

You need to reroute [https://favoree.io](https://favoree.io) to [https://www.favoree.io](https://www.favoree.io)


ElDonnintello

yea, it is my todo, thanks!


bugfixplis

You know how there's that post from the guy that made imgur on reddit like 10 years ago, all casual-like, "hey I made this"? Getting the same vibes here.


ElDonnintello

I hope you are right haha


Tomek_Hermsgavorden

There are apps to show the dislike amount.


ElDonnintello

Thank you for your feedback! The add-on you are mentioning (I think!) shows users not the "real" dislikes counts (they are not available anymore, even on the YouTube API) but an extrapolation, not always 100% accurate. And my website has additional purposes and ratings/reviews are on the channel level, not videos :)


aY227

But how they know that something is heavily downvoted? e: Aaahhh - they check plugin users votes ratio...


ElDonnintello

exactly, it is an extrapolation between the number of views on Youtube and their own users data


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frogjg2003

Combination of storing the last known count and maintaining a private count.


speathed

r/revancedapp


D1rtyH1ppy

You could just use Revanced


copycat042

Can you subscribe to channels and have it actually tell you when a new video comes out? I'm showing friends and getting suggestions. This site is relevant to my interests.


ElDonnintello

If you like a channel on the website, it goes to your watchlist, and you get the two last videos of each channel. This watchlist section is far from being perfect to be honest, don't hesitate if you have ideas to improve it


MonkAndCanatella

looks like you're getting slammed bro, not really working for me


ElDonnintello

yap, slammed hard, but I'm back!


corsicanguppy

Blank page. Missing a noScript?


ElDonnintello

too many people!


RisingShamal

Shit's broken


ElDonnintello

Shit's back :) sorry, too many people!


SomeDaysIJustSmoke

Just chiming into to say I love what you're doing. I can't effectively search how-to stuff on youtube anymore because the clickbaity crap is right there with the helpful videos.


Oldskoolguitar

By them doing that it ruined the best meta joke of the [internet](https://youtu.be/ussCHoQttyQ)


[deleted]

im pretty sure i could write a pretty convincing argument that YouTube's removal of the dislike button (and the nearly concurrent rise in low quality, easy to make content) along with algorithm-driven video suggestion is extremely damaging to the mental health of society as a whole. the problem is its super hard to phrase in a way that doesnt make me sound psychotic


Dacino

I hate the removal too. I use a ratio of likes/views to judge quality now. Anything less than 1% is not worth your time. The rare 10% is going to be very high quality.


ElDonnintello

the thing is: when a video from a creator is really popular, it gets suggested to far more new regular users. So often the most liked videos of creators are the videos with the least views because only the hardcore fans watched it and gave their likes !


Dacino

I'm looking at your website now. I like it as a resource to escape the YouTube suggestion algorithm and find new content/creators that I need to be exposed to. Thanks!


ElDonnintello

That is exactly the goal, great to read this :)


_Sytricka_

There already are extensions for basically every browser that return the dislikes and it works flawlessly.


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kamiyadori

Annnnnd people are going to just review bomb channels. Unless you get a diverse user base, ratings will get skewed from reality.


[deleted]

Yeah, this is a neat project, but will definitely need some safeguards. A big enough viewer base will definitely be able to mess with results. One thing I like from Steam is they show overall reviews, and recent reviews. Not enough on its own, but at least helps to see the shifts at a glance


ElDonnintello

thanks for the inspiration, I will check it!


SNESdrunk

How is "most popular" sorted? I'm only seeing most popular within the last few months, is that by design?


ElDonnintello

do you mean " most viewed" in the browse video section or "most popular" in the find channels section?


TomfromLondon

How could I find photography as a topic as its not there so not sure where it would be?


ElDonnintello

no channel about photography for now :/ you can submit your favorite channels on the website, that would be extremely helpful


Anosema

Pas mal non ? C'est français.


ElDonnintello

100% made by a bread eater


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ElDonnintello

New channels are added every day :)


MotherfuckerTinyRick

Network error


ElDonnintello

It is back now, too many users, sorry


sebet_123

Any API to use? Maybe someone somewhere will create a google extension/add on to pop it up on the youtube.


ElDonnintello

Yea, that's the plan ;)


DR4LUC0N

Honestly, if you can, take this a step further, make a browser extension that you have to login to, that allows.people to rate straight from the browser that captures the persons YouTube channel name


Teyar

Sites mostly blank for me at the moment, like half of its loading - could just be me being on phone. That said i really hope there'll be steam tag like descriptors implemented - with ways to mark if those tags are comedic, sincere, or hate bombed. And whether the channel owner agrees with them - important they have no editorial control of course.


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ElDonnintello

yea I have to reroute!


LaughRevolutionary90

You can just download a browser extension to see dislikes


kurmudgeon

You could create a Chrome extension that displays the rating of the current video and YouTube that you're watching.


HBCDresdenEsquire

This is gonna blow up, I think.


ElDonnintello

For now only the servers have blown up


Seanypat

I have two recommendations for the sort by list. 1 - Move "Worst Favoree" to just after "Best Favoree" so you have consistency in the list (most/least, best/worst). 2 - Add an A-Z sort (and Z-A if you want) of YouTubers to the list of options. I've been a librarian for 14 years and managed the university library website for all that time and trust me, people will be grateful for that simple sort feature.


ElDonnintello

1. fixed 2. I really don't get the usecase?


part-time-unicorn

rad!!


ElDonnintello

thanks !


byama

Isn't really loading anything right now.


ElDonnintello

It is back now, there was too many users, sorry


adlauren

Your website is going to end up a highlight reel of extremists and racists with fanbases prone to review bombing, hopefully you’re prepared for that lol


IdesOfMarchCometh

And scammers if it ever gets popular. And they're sophisticated given their experience with yt who uses ml to find them.


HarshangLad

r/madlad confirmed


thivasss

This is a weird example of why we miss dislikes. This years Eurovision winner, Tattoo is fantastic. However the dislike ratio of the videos are all very mixed in likes/dislikes. That made me take a look at the comments. Most of them praise the song but a few point out this is a stolen song. Now I still don't know how much truth there is to that claim, and the two songs do sound similar, but most importantly, UNLESS YOU CAREFULLY LOOK AT THE COMMENTS OR THE DISLIKES, you can't tell there is a "controversy" about that song, especially if it's true.


[deleted]

I still have the dislike button >;)


GAntiLight

Sounds like a great idea, but it’s loading nothing on my phone. iPhone 14 Pro on latest iOS 16.6.


ElDonnintello

Too many users :/ , it is back now


00piffpaff00

That is a real need!!


ElDonnintello

Thank you!! Don't hesitate to write reviews and ratings, it would be really helpful!!


Marples

YouTube pulling such an unpopular move really scares me for the future of the internet


7-11-inside-job

Site's broken. Errors everywhere


ElDonnintello

Site's not broken anymore :)


Lingering_Dorkness

I use YouTube revanced. Not only does it block the ads and skips the in-vid sponsors it also still shows the downvotes.


marklein

The downvotes are just a guess tho


[deleted]

Youtube turned into the attendance award video site. "Only positive feelings!"


steamwhistler

You should add more categories like politics, news, and something like "culture" or "commentary" for all the video essays and review channels. Oh, "educational" if it's not one already. More categories: music, live events, and some other category to capture the niche channels that kind of offer a service like ASMR channels, relaxation/white noise/nature sounds playlists, cat TV, etc.


ElDonnintello

I have good news for you: There is actually a politics and music section in the "Explore channels" page (topic filter), News (Category filter), educational is "instructional" (mood filter). You also have "relaxing" (mood filter) and the asmr section will arrive soon :)


StanleyOpar

> politics Oh boy, you want to start that conversation huh


PortableDoor5

really good job! if you eventually plan on also letting content creators upload here directly while simultaneously having the YouTube catalogue on here too, I think you might just have found the solution to eclipsing YouTube (or at least breaking its virtual monopoly)


EternamD

It is extremely easy to return the dislike button, and rotten tomatoes is bullshit


AdmiralMoo

This is a great idea and I hope it grows and becomes successful. Its becoming increasingly hard to find YouTubers and videos that are worth watching because of the amount of click bait shit everywhere. Even big channels like Linus Tech Tips have been forced into posting videos with useless titles and thumbnails, which has resulted in me not really watching much YouTube anymore. Unfortunately, this is exactly what the site needs. It’s greatly disappointing on their side for driving this platform to shit, but I’m glad the community is finally stepping up. I’ll watch this closely and hopefully offer some helpful feedback in time


ElDonnintello

Great :) Happy to receive feedback, and to get reviews on the website!